[2014-04-07] What is the Carbon Footprint of a Bitcoin?

[coinits]

oh and your statement that there are less plants and trees now is 100% bullshit. The earth is greener than at any other point in its recorded history.

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Coinits......love your posts!   How right you are!

[lynn_402]

oh and your statement that there are less plants and trees now is 100% bullshit. The earth is greener than at any other point in its recorded history.

Wrong:
The amount of plant and trees effective in the CO2 -> O2 cycle is decreasing because of deforestation, urbanisation and agriculture (America's maize and Asia's rice are very innefective in that cycle).

The tard runs deep in this thread.

Debunk this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZepVJ2XMi0

Face it we won you lost. Climategate showed what you guys were made of. FAIL!

That's seriously how you refute? By linking a video of some random unqualified guy on youtube who believes that more than 40 years of research on climate change are a big conspiracy? The truth is that no big organization profits from reducing human waste and preserving the ecosystem (well perhaps Al Gore's political career if it still exists, but it is irrelevant.) Since you like comedy, let me show you what you sound like to me: http://youtu.be/Q_xI_8aLjds?t=3m15s

The only way to mature as a human being is to abandon the comfort of convenient lies, and open your logic to hard truth. Please, grow some balls, use your brain that billions of years of evolution built for you (you do believe this is a thing, don't you?) to educate yourself and stop being what's wrong with the world.

You may start by this simple Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

[bryant.coleman]

oh and your statement that there are less plants and trees now is 100% bullshit. The earth is greener than at any other point in its recorded history.

Do you have any proof for this BS?

Global deforestation sharply accelerated around 1852. It has been estimated that about half of the Earth's mature tropical forests—between 7.5 million and 8 million km2 (2.9 million to 3 million sq mi) of the original 15 million to 16 million km2 (5.8 million to 6.2 million sq mi) that until 1947 covered the planet have now been destroyed

Estimates vary widely as to the extent of tropical deforestation. Scientists estimate that one fifth of the world's tropical rainforest was destroyed between 1960 and 1990. They claim that that rainforests 50 years ago covered 14% of the world's land surface, now only cover 5–7%, and that all tropical forests will be gone by the middle of the 21st century.

The forests are being destroyed at a rapid pace. Almost 90% of West Africa's rainforest has been destroyed. Since the arrival of humans 2000 years ago, Madagascar has lost two thirds of its original rainforest. At present rates, tropical rainforests in Indonesia would be logged out in 10 years and Papua New Guinea in 13 to 16 years.

[coinits]

oh and your statement that there are less plants and trees now is 100% bullshit. The earth is greener than at any other point in its recorded history.

Wrong:
The amount of plant and trees effective in the CO2 -> O2 cycle is decreasing because of deforestation, urbanisation and agriculture (America's maize and Asia's rice are very innefective in that cycle).

The tard runs deep in this thread.

Debunk this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZepVJ2XMi0

Face it we won you lost. Climategate showed what you guys were made of. FAIL!

That's seriously how you refute? By linking a video of some random unqualified guy on youtube who believes that more than 40 years of research on climate change are a big conspiracy? The truth is that no big organization profits from reducing human waste and preserving the ecosystem (well perhaps Al Gore's political career if it still exists, but it is irrelevant.) Since you like comedy, let me show you what you sound like to me: http://youtu.be/Q_xI_8aLjds?t=3m15s

The only way to mature as a human being is to abandon the comfort of convenient lies, and open your logic to hard truth. Please, grow some balls, use your brain that billions of years of evolution built for you (you do believe this is a thing, don't you?) to educate yourself and stop being what's wrong with the world.

You may start by this simple Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

Unqualified guys? Who have doctorates in Climatology and are leading researchers in their field? Shill you fucking fail. Go back to your playbook and find another idiotic phrase to say.

[coinits]

oh and your statement that there are less plants and trees now is 100% bullshit. The earth is greener than at any other point in its recorded history.

Wrong:
The amount of plant and trees effective in the CO2 -> O2 cycle is decreasing because of deforestation, urbanisation and agriculture (America's maize and Asia's rice are very innefective in that cycle).

The tard runs deep in this thread.

Debunk this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZepVJ2XMi0

Face it we won you lost. Climategate showed what you guys were made of. FAIL!

That's seriously how you refute? By linking a video of some random unqualified guy on youtube who believes that more than 40 years of research on climate change are a big conspiracy? The truth is that no big organization profits from reducing human waste and preserving the ecosystem (well perhaps Al Gore's political career if it still exists, but it is irrelevant.) Since you like comedy, let me show you what you sound like to me: http://youtu.be/Q_xI_8aLjds?t=3m15s

The only way to mature as a human being is to abandon the comfort of convenient lies, and open your logic to hard truth. Please, grow some balls, use your brain that billions of years of evolution built for you (you do believe this is a thing, don't you?) to educate yourself and stop being what's wrong with the world.

You may start by this simple Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

I'll counter your graph a call bullshit according to the Society of American Foresters: http://forestry.about.com/library/weekly/aa031900.htm Also globally there are more trees growing now then at any other time in recorded history.

FACT: Increases in CO2 follow rises in global temperature. The science proves it 100%. You obviously did not watch the video because the real science is there in all of its naked glory proving that global climate change has nothing to do with humanity.

And it is laughable that you counter real science with a link to a Wiki.

Like I said, the tard runs deep in this thread and I guess it is true. I can't fix your stupid.

[lynn_402]

Unqualified guys? Who have doctorates in Climatology and are leading researchers in their field? Shill you fucking fail. Go back to your playbook and find another idiotic phrase to say.

3) watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL8HP1WzbDk let a fucking comedian undo the damage that years of government indoctrination centers aka schools imposed on you.

I'll let you find the inconsistency in your statements

Seriously, someone who has a doctorate can be just as corrupted and/or wrong as anybody else. What counts are the arguments, and those you indirectly cited utterly fail to see the broader picture.

Have you heard about Milankovitch cycles? Basically, they are periodic changes in the planet's eccencentricity and axial tilt that affects climate, and its effect have been consistent for millions of years. Its primary effect is an oscilliation of +/- 2°C in the global mean temperatures. Its periodicity and its effects have been very consistent, and according to this effect, we should be in the -1°C period right now - but the atmosphere is actually getting hotter, and the upward slope fits perfectly with industrialisation. The few hundreds of years during which the mean temperature has been getting hotter is way too short a period for it to have been triggered by any natural cause (other than the sudden fall of a gigantic meteorite or a very sudden and intense period of volcanic activities)

Also globally there are more trees growing now then at any other time in recorded history.

Even if that was true (which I greatly doubt), this can't possibly compensate for the ongoing deforestation. Please reply to bryant.coleman's arguments with sources if you want to prove that your statement is true.

I'll counter your graph a call bullshit according to the Society of American Foresters: http://forestry.about.com/library/weekly/aa031900.htm

I applaud the reforestation effort and other advances that are mentionned in this link, but nowhere does it say there's more tree now than there was a few hundred years ago. So you can't base your arguments on this, nor say that the graph I posted is fake. It says there are more trees now in the USA than there was in 1920, that's cool, but it's still half less than during colonisation. Also, there are locations where deforestation is quite worse than in the USA (Brazil, Canada)

And it is laughable that you counter real science with a link to a Wiki.

Your youtube video is more credible?
Wiki is adequate to settle internet arguments.

[bryant.coleman]

Also globally there are more trees growing now then at any other time in recorded history.

Are you just acting like you are stupid, or are you really this stupid? Next time at least post some semi-reliable links. Not some made up Youtube video made by school kids.

[Sithara007]

This

The earth is greener than at any other point in its recorded history.

and this:

Global deforestation sharply accelerated around 1852. It has been estimated that about half of the Earth's mature tropical forests—between 7.5 million and 8 million km2 (2.9 million to 3 million sq mi) of the original 15 million to 16 million km2 (5.8 million to 6.2 million sq mi) that until 1947 covered the planet have now been destroyed

So new theory emerges. Destruction of the forests make the earth greener. Bravo!