Petabyte hard drives

[jonald_fyookball]

Can I get one now. How much.  When will they be affordable ??

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[Vod]

Can I get one now. How much.  When will they be affordable ??

The world's largest capacity hard drive is around 6TB I believe.  That is only 0.6% of a petabyte.

How much porn do you have?

[jonald_fyookball]

That sucks

[hilariousandco]

It'll be a long time before they're realeased and an even longer time before they're affordable. Why do you want or need that much storage?

[Hazir]

I remember long time ago when people used to say that all you would ever need will like 512k bytes or so... Someone important said that. I don't remember who now. Look at us now... petabytes of data...

[jonald_fyookball]

I have several (3 or 4) external drives filled with video data (not porn lol).  Ok well...not ALL of it is porn.  And I wish I could just have one drive to rule them all.

[havanabob]

I'm still using 250gb hard and feel like it's more then enough for now.

I'd forgot about "delete" option with petabyte hard

[d2dtk]

Can I get one now. How much.  When will they be affordable ??

The world's largest capacity hard drive is around 6TB I believe.  That is only 0.6% of a petabyte.

How much porn do you have?

HGST Ships 6TB Ultrastar® He6 Helium-filled Drives for High-density, Massive Scale-out Data Center Environments http://www.hgst.com/press-room/press-releases/hgst-ships-6TB-Ultrastar-HE6-helium-filled

^ That's the kind of drive I need, I'm running three 1TB drives just to hold the bundles of "data" that I have been hoarding over the years.

[Vod]

I have several (3 or 4) external drives filled with video data (not porn lol).  Ok well...not ALL of it is porn.  And I wish I could just have one drive to rule them all.

http://www.drobo.com/storage-products/drobo/

I have one.  It's awesome.  You can hot swap any drive, any size, any manufacturer without formatting or partitioning.  Your computer recognizes it as one drive.  By putting four 6tb drives in there, you would have 18TB of storage in one drive!

[shorena]

I remember long time ago when people used to say that all you would ever need will like 512k bytes or so... Someone important said that. I don't remember who now. Look at us now... petabytes of data...

Sounds like that IBM statement "There is demand for ~3-4 computers worldwide"

Yeah...

[Singlebyte]

I have several (3 or 4) external drives filled with video data (not porn lol).  Ok well...not ALL of it is porn.  And I wish I could just have one drive to rule them all.

http://www.drobo.com/storage-products/drobo/

I have one.  It's awesome.  You can hot swap any drive, any size, any manufacturer without formatting or partitioning.  Your computer recognizes it as one drive.  By putting four 6tb drives in there, you would have 18TB of storage in one drive!

+1 for Drobo....I have one as we'll and they are great.


I don't think people comprehend how HUGE a PETABYTE is.  1 PB could store 13.3 years of HD video.  1 PB is supposedly how much video Netflix stores.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petabyte


Hell, Wikipedia database is only 9.85 gigabytes compressed (44 uncompressed) (and available for download.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download

[jonald_fyookball]

I have several (3 or 4) external drives filled with video data (not porn lol).  Ok well...not ALL of it is porn.  And I wish I could just have one drive to rule them all.

http://www.drobo.com/storage-products/drobo/

I have one.  It's awesome.  You can hot swap any drive, any size, any manufacturer without formatting or partitioning.  Your computer recognizes it as one drive.  By putting four 6tb drives in there, you would have 18TB of storage in one drive!

+1 for Drobo....I have one as we'll and they are great.


I don't think people comprehend how HUGE a PETABYTE is.  1 PB could store 13.3 years of HD video.  1 PB is supposedly how much video Netflix stores.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petabyte


Hell, Wikipedia database is only 9.85 gigabytes compressed (44 uncompressed) and available for download.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download

good point...well then let me have a 20 TB drive

[Singlebyte]

Here you go....buy 20 of these DVDs when they are available.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/159245-new-optical-laser-can-increase-dvd-storage-up-to-one-petabyte

Looks like the largest hard drive to be produced in the near future is 60 TB

http://www.cnet.com/news/seagate-reaches-1tb-per-square-inch-hard-drive-to-reach-60tb-capacity/

[bitsmichel]

Not on consumer market yet as far as i know. Email around a bit to get a custom one for a special price 

[Nobitcoin]

Here you go....buy 20 of these DVDs when they are available.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/159245-new-optical-laser-can-increase-dvd-storage-up-to-one-petabyte

Looks like the largest hard drive to be produced in the near future is 60 TB

http://www.cnet.com/news/seagate-reaches-1tb-per-square-inch-hard-drive-to-reach-60tb-capacity/

Technology is truly amazing how long would it take to write a Petabyte on to a DVD and imaginative e searching for a small text file on it... Probably burn out your DVD drive  

[beetcoin]

hell i bought a 1 TB external last year and i stll have 650 GB leftover.. i don't know how people end up downloading so much.

[JoelKatz]

Petabyte arrays are available. They're not exactly cheap.

http://www.aberdeeninc.com/abcatg/petarack.htm
http://www.simplstor.com/index.php/petabyte

[amitrwt]

A person can save all the data one will ever require from songs + movies + other movies[porn] + Required Software+ necessary file + other crap in less than 1tb why s/he will require rest of 1023tb..? 

[cp1]

1 TB is definitely not enough, but 20 TB should be plenty.  Just get about 13 2 TB drives.

[amitrwt]

1 TB is definitely not enough, but 20 TB should be plenty.  Just get about 13 2 TB drives.

If I may ask you " what is the size of HDD you are using? "

[cp1]

Right now I have about 4 TB in use at home, but I could see where someone would want more.  Of course at work I have much more than that.

[beetcoin]

Right now I have about 4 TB in use at home, but I could see where someone would want more.  Of course at work I have much more than that.

what kind of stuff do you have in there? i have more porn than i could ever want, tv shows, music, and yet i still have 650GB to spare. are you just one of those data hoarders?

[KonstantinosM]

You can most certainly connect multiple drives to reach the capacity of 1 petabyte.

Since we're dealing with hardware we'll use the misleading 1000 TB = 1 PB instead of 1024 which is used for software.

Depending on brand hard drives can be bought for in the range of 40-70 dollars per TB

So it follows that you'd pay between $40,000 and $70,000.

[cp1]

Sure, but if you buy $40 harddrives you're going to be replacing at least 1 per day.

[Justin00]

sweet jessus
do you realy need one ??
can't just buy multiple TB ?

what are you storing ? and how the hell you gonna back it up ? well I suppose you could have 2 of them... but yeah.. you really need it or a just to be cool factor ?

[FFrost]

You most have a lot of 4k porn DVDs extra high resolution almost like being there.

[beetcoin]

i don't get why people have HD movies saved on their hard drives.. i hardly ever watch a movie more than once, so what would be the point? yet, as i'm saying this, i remember that i have some stuff backed up in my HDD. i don't have much though, maybe 30 gigs. i should probably delete them, as i'll never re-watch them anyways

porn, on the other hand, is something that you can re-watch and re-watch over and over 

[medUSA]

I actually prefer multiple smaller drives than one big one. Call me paranoid, but what if that ONE drive fails? I would loose everything!

I have a pair of external 500GB harddisk to hold all the photos I have taken. They are perfect duplicates and they are only half full. I have another pair of 8G USB flash drives to backup my 2GB of letters and documents. Summing all bits and pieces, I only have some 300G of data.

How do you guys fill multiple terabytes of hard drives? Do you ever delete stuff?

[KimNam]

we will see single petabyte drivers in futures
but not for now, TB is still consider big for data
except you collect BD ISO movie with no compressed, 1 TB only can store around 19 movies

I actually prefer multiple smaller drives than one big one. Call me paranoid, but what if that ONE drive fails? I would loose everything!

I have a pair of external 500GB harddisk to hold all the photos I have taken. They are perfect duplicates and they are only half full. I have another pair of 8G USB flash drives to backup my 2GB of letters and documents. Summing all bits and pieces, I only have some 300G of data.

How do you guys fill multiple terabytes of hard drives? Do you ever delete stuff?

if your data is really valuable, you must have another external drive and store your data there
and only use one of them for daily use
you do right thing to backup your data

[bindedraht]

2-3 years from now.

[fishy]

2-3 years from now.

16tb is probably the biggest you'll see in one drive these days:
http://www.amazon.com/LaCie-Quadra-External-Drive-9000330U/dp/B00AJJIVPI

[beetcoin]

hard drive storage has plateaued for a few years now.. we haven't seen much development. maybe they're shifting more towards SSDs. i doubt in 2-3 years we'll see big jumps. we are seeing diminishing returns.

[fishy]

hard drive storage has plateaued for a few years now.. we haven't seen much development. maybe they're shifting more towards SSDs. i doubt in 2-3 years we'll see big jumps. we are seeing diminishing returns.

Especially PCIe SSDs, like in MacBooks

[bluefirecorp]

You can most certainly connect multiple drives to reach the capacity of 1 petabyte.

Since we're dealing with hardware we'll use the misleading 1000 TB = 1 PB instead of 1024 which is used for software.

Depending on brand hard drives can be bought for in the range of 40-70 dollars per TB

So it follows that you'd pay between $40,000 and $70,000.

Right and don't forget to add in external costs. RAID Controllers, motherboards, and chassis aren't exactly free.

[Thai]

The team over at Backblaze have put a ton of research into storage solutions and lay out their entire build process for a 180TB 4U Storage Pod for their datacenter. It's truly an interesting read. Obviously, you can purchase much larger drives to push the capacity limit but at a higher cost.

They claim their cost is about 8000 satoshi per gigabyte.

[Bitcoin Magazine]

What are big hard drives for?  Excuse the drama but the iTunes cloud stores all music I have.  Videos?  I got a TV for that.   

[bluefirecorp]

What are big hard drives for?  Excuse the drama but the iTunes cloud stores all music I have.  Videos?  I got a TV for that.   

Don't you love wasting 10 min for every 30 min video watching commercials though? Isn't it great that you pay for a service that's meant for entertainment that just serves you advertisements the entire time?

[bindedraht]

The team over at Backblaze have put a ton of research into storage solutions and lay out their entire build process for a 180TB 4U Storage Pod for their datacenter. It's truly an interesting read. Obviously, you can purchase much larger drives to push the capacity limit but at a higher cost.

They claim their cost is about 8000 satoshi per gigabyte.

Sounds interesting.

[jbreher]

Since we're dealing with hardware we'll use the misleading 1000 TB = 1 PB instead of 1024 which is used for software.

Just. Stop.

Let me spool off rant # 34...

'Kilo' has _never_ been 1024. It has _always_ been 1000. All official standards organizations on the face of the planet (ANSI, ISO, IEC, BSA, NIST, ...) are united on this concept.

Mega has never meant 1024*1024 nor 1000*1024. It has _always_ been exactly 1,000,000.

Giga has never meant 2^30. It has always been 10^9.

And so on.

Lazy folk have perpetrated this mischaracterization so pervasively that the standards organizations needed to invent new units:

Kibi (Ki) - 2^10
Mebi (Mi) - 2^20
Gibi (Gi) - 2^30
Tebi (Ti) - 2^40
Pebi (Pi) - 2^50
and so on...

There is nothing misleading about saying '1PB = 1,000,000,000,000,000 Bytes'. It is misleading to say anything else.

If you want a shorthand way of saying 1*1024*1024*1024*1024*1024, you can say '1 PiB' (pronounced pebbee-byte). But you cannot say '1 PB' - because that is flat out incorrect.

[jbreher]

hard drive storage has plateaued for a few years now.. we haven't seen much development.

I can assure you that the march toward higher areal densities continues unabated.

ETA: How long have 6TB HDDs been shipping again?

[robbyd86]

20TB seems great!  I've been using 1TB for the last few years and have to constantly delete things to make room.  I'm sure 10yrs from now a Petabyte will be necessary.  Although I think file sizes (at least with movies and tv shows) are getting more compact these days.  Most movies can be found in the 800mb range whereas they used to be 4GB.  High resolution is still in the 4GB range, but that will eventually get trimmed down I'm sure.

[TECSHARE]

The problem with larger capacity drives is they fail more often. I would personally recommend a hard drive for your OS, at 500gb, then one more for data storage of any size for regularly used files. For your massive archive, burning to blueray discs would be MUCH cheaper than buying a petabyte worth of hard drive storage.

[ALToids]

The problem with larger capacity drives is they fail more often. I would personally recommend a hard drive for your OS, at 500gb, then one more for data storage of any size for regularly used files. For your massive archive, burning to blueray discs would be MUCH cheaper than buying a petabyte worth of hard drive storage.

They only fail more often if they have more platters/heads (assuming same spindle speed).

A 5 platter 1TB drive is less reliable than a 2 platter 1.5TB drive.

[jbreher]

The problem with larger capacity drives is they fail more often.

I don't know where you are getting your data, but the HALT results that I have seen disagree with your general assertion.

[cp1]

I'm certain that you'll have more failures per month with 24 1TB drives than with 6 4TB drives

[ALToids]

I'm certain that you'll have more failures per month with 24 1TB drives than with 6 4TB drives

While that may be true, the net data loss after 10 years will be the same - most likely 12-24TB of data lost.

It's just easier to manage the larger drives and they have higher transfer rates.

If you have access to RAID redundancy then it is just easier to go with larger drives.

[dropt]

If you have access to RAID redundancy then it is just easier to go with larger drives.

+1

QNAP 4-bay populated with 4TB drives in RAID5 here.  If you're storing that much data, do it right FFS.

[ALToids]

If you have access to RAID redundancy then it is just easier to go with larger drives.

+1

QNAP 4-bay populated with 4TB drives in RAID5 here.  If you're storing that much data, do it right FFS.

I picked up a bunch of 3TB external WD at Staples a couple weeks ago.  I was going to crack them open and put them into a NAS that offers some basic RAID (for redundancy, not speed).  I heard the Drobo 5 bays are easy to use and cost about $400.  Should I go with Drobo, Synology, or Qnap as noted above?  I'll mostly be putting family pics and movies (about 500GB so far) and HD movie rips (have about 5TB of this).  I plan on using Win 7 x64 as the OS.  Any suggestions?

[BurtW]

hard drive storage has plateaued for a few years now.. we haven't seen much development.

I can assure you that the march toward higher areal densities continues unabated.

ETA: How long have 6TB HDDs been shipping again?

I tend to disagree with "unabated".  For rotating rust we are seeing dimishing returns.  In the "good old days" we used to double the capacity every 6-9 months.  Look how long it is taking us to implement new technology to double the capacity today.  Also, it is getting much harder to increase density.  It is not just a matter of throwing in new heads and media, increasing TPI and/or BPI, or even just a new head technolgy.

The firmware is also getting exponentially more complex so, yes densities will still go up but at a slower rate than before.

[jbreher]

hard drive storage has plateaued for a few years now.. we haven't seen much development.

I can assure you that the march toward higher areal densities continues unabated.

ETA: How long have 6TB HDDs been shipping again?

I tend to disagree with "unabated".  For rotating rust we are seeing dimishing returns.  In the "good old days" we used to double the capacity every 6-9 months.  Look how long it is taking us to implement new technology to double the capacity today.  Also, it is getting much harder to increase density.  It is not just a matter of throwing in new heads and media, increasing TPI and/or BPI, or even just a new head technolgy.

The firmware is also getting exponentially more complex so, yes densities will still go up but at a slower rate than before.

Don't disagree with the notion that the rate of areal density growth is decreasing. However, can I get an 'amen' to the notion that HDD capacities have not been plateaued for a few years now?

[BurtW]

hard drive storage has plateaued for a few years now.. we haven't seen much development.

I can assure you that the march toward higher areal densities continues unabated.

ETA: How long have 6TB HDDs been shipping again?

I tend to disagree with "unabated".  For rotating rust we are seeing dimishing returns.  In the "good old days" we used to double the capacity every 6-9 months.  Look how long it is taking us to implement new technology to double the capacity today.  Also, it is getting much harder to increase density.  It is not just a matter of throwing in new heads and media, increasing TPI and/or BPI, or even just a new head technolgy.

The firmware is also getting exponentially more complex so, yes densities will still go up but at a slower rate than before.

Don't disagree with the notion that the rate of areal density growth is decreasing. However, can I get an 'amen' to the notion that HDD capacities have not been plateaued for a few years now?

Amen brother bear.

[MelodyRowell]

Petabyte hard drives are a waste, I only used 100G so far..

[Singlebyte]

Petabyte hard drives are a waste

Petabyte hard drives don't even exist...did you even bother to read the thread?

[Lauda]

1 TB is definitely not enough, but 20 TB should be plenty.  Just get about 13 2 TB drives.

You aren't storing anything useful on that I can guarantee it.
What are you storing if I may ask?

[cp1]

1 TB is definitely not enough, but 20 TB should be plenty.  Just get about 13 2 TB drives.

You aren't storing anything useful on that I can guarantee it.
What are you storing if I may ask?

I don't need 20 TB at home, I was giving an alternative to the OP that was actually possible, instead of 1 PB.

[robbyd86]

1 TB is definitely not enough, but 20 TB should be plenty.  Just get about 13 2 TB drives.

You aren't storing anything useful on that I can guarantee it.
What are you storing if I may ask?

I have a ton of tv shows, movies, music, and about 100 GB just of photos I've taken from my various travels.  Every time I want some new tv shows or anything, I have to debate what I'm never going to watch again.  1 TB is a lot, but it's not enough in the scheme of things.

[Bigbrowndingleberry]

I couldn't imagine... the amount of porn. Mind blowing 

[cp1]

1 TB is definitely not enough, but 20 TB should be plenty.  Just get about 13 2 TB drives.

You aren't storing anything useful on that I can guarantee it.
What are you storing if I may ask?

I have a ton of tv shows, movies, music, and about 100 GB just of photos I've taken from my various travels.  Every time I want some new tv shows or anything, I have to debate what I'm never going to watch again.  1 TB is a lot, but it's not enough in the scheme of things.

Yeah I've got 2 TB just in TV shows.  It's like a house, you can always fill up whatever space you have.

[jbreher]

1 TB is definitely not enough, but 20 TB should be plenty.  Just get about 13 2 TB drives.

You aren't storing anything useful on that I can guarantee it.
What are you storing if I may ask?

You absolutely cannnot guarantee that.

I can see you've never engaged in serious media production.

[dropt]

I picked up a bunch of 3TB external WD at Staples a couple weeks ago.  I was going to crack them open and put them into a NAS that offers some basic RAID (for redundancy, not speed).  I heard the Drobo 5 bays are easy to use and cost about $400.  Should I go with Drobo, Synology, or Qnap as noted above?  I'll mostly be putting family pics and movies (about 500GB so far) and HD movie rips (have about 5TB of this).  I plan on using Win 7 x64 as the OS.  Any suggestions?

I'm not too familiar with Drobo units, but it looks like it's suitable for home use.  For the most part, any of those manufacturers you listed will be fine.  The only exception to consider is if you'll have multiple users pulling/pushing data to the box, local connectivity for backups/external disks, and whether you intend to use the device purely as a NAS, or as a NAS/Media portal.

Some things I'd look into before pulling the trigger on the Drobo is its ability to stream those HD videos as from my cursory glance at the 5bay units it seems there are issues.  There also seem to be some concerns about the compatibility of some mSATA drives if you are considering upgrading.  And as a last point, it appears the Drobo really lacks in terms of add-on applications.  This may or may not be a selling point for you, but the Synology and QNAP devices act more like mini-servers than pure NAS'.  To this end, the QNAP and Synology offer things like personal cloud, time machine backups, torrent boxes, etc.

[dropt]

I can see you've never engaged in serious media production.

+1 Raw video streams take up mad space.