If you mine and use bitcoins, but do not support Ron Paul

[Sovereign]

Then you should stop using bitcoins. You are a hypocrite statist who believes in anti-freedom. You have no business using market evolved money based on freedom and decentralization. This is what Ron Paul stands for, and this what bitcoiners should stand for aswell.

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[P4man]

No right? Eh.. so I guess I misunderstood all that noise about personal liberty and freedom Paul supports make..  You sayin its conditional on your political preferences?

[Explodicle]

Have you considered that some people might not support ANY Republicans, or any politicians? Or that one might agree with Ron Paul about currency but not (for example) whether or not any state has a right to ban abortion? A presidential candidate is a complicated choice and can't be determined by one issue.

[DeathAndTaxes]

I have a feeling Dr. Paul would disagree with you.

[SgtSpike]

Then you should stop using bitcoins. You are a hypocrite statist who believes in anti-freedom. You have no business using market evolved money based on freedom and decentralization. This is what Ron Paul stands for, and this what bitcoiners should stand for aswell.

Isn't telling people what to do the opposite of freedom?

Just checking.

[FreeMoney]

He's trying to take control of the state power machine to make it do what he wants. That's statist.

Regardless, I think you should use what you can to do what you think is right. I'll do the same.

[DeathAndTaxes]

He's trying to take control of the state power machine to make it do what he wants. That's statist.

Regardless, I think you should use what you can to do what you think is right. I'll do the same.

IF a statist system already exists how do you remove it (or maybe degrade it) without taking control of it first?

[kokjo]

He's trying to take control of the state power machine to make it do what he wants. That's statist.

Regardless, I think you should use what you can to do what you think is right. I'll do the same.

IF a statist system already exists how do you remove it (or maybe degrade it) without taking control of it first?

convince enough people, that the system sucks, and anarchy is better.
at some point you would reach a point where the state falls apart, and anarchy wins.

[Gabi]

Then you should stop using bitcoins. You are a hypocrite statist who believes in anti-freedom. You have no business using market evolved money based on freedom and decentralization. This is what Ron Paul stands for, and this what bitcoiners should stand for aswell.

What about no.

Protip: USA is not the world 

[FlipPro]

Then you should stop using bitcoins. You are a hypocrite statist who believes in anti-freedom. You have no business using market evolved money based on freedom and decentralization. This is what Ron Paul stands for, and this what bitcoiners should stand for aswell.

REALLY?

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

nuff said, -_-

Edit: People like you HURT Bitcoin, and you don't even realize it...

Bitcoin does not belong to you, or any political ideology for the matter. It doesn't have "favorites" and unlike your post, promotes TRUE freedom from all of the existing establishments including the one that your hero RP is part of, whether he likes it or not...

Thank god that Bitcoin has no bias...

[SgtSpike]

For what it's worth though, I will vote for RP if he's on the ballot as the Republican candidate.  But it's not right to say that anyone who doesn't vote for him shouldn't be using Bitcoin.   

[FlipPro]

For what it's worth though, I will vote for RP if he's on the ballot as the Republican candidate.  But it's not right to say that anyone who doesn't vote for him shouldn't be using Bitcoin.  

RP is a clown SGT, and his supporters haven't done much to change that.

They just seem to make it worse...

[SgtSpike]

For what it's worth though, I will vote for RP if he's on the ballot as the Republican candidate.  But it's not right to say that anyone who doesn't vote for him shouldn't be using Bitcoin.   

RP is a clown SGT, and his supporters haven't done much to change that.

They just make it worse...

He's better than any of the other politicians running.  Agree about the supporters... there's extremist supporters no matter what candidate you look at, but RP's are of a special variety. 

[FlipPro]

For what it's worth though, I will vote for RP if he's on the ballot as the Republican candidate.  But it's not right to say that anyone who doesn't vote for him shouldn't be using Bitcoin.  

RP is a clown SGT, and his supporters haven't done much to change that.

They just make it worse...

He's better than any of the other politicians running.  Agree about the supporters... there's extremist supporters no matter what candidate you look at, but RP's are of a special variety.  

He may be the best Republican, but Obama would slaughter him in the general (he would probably take all 50 states). There are so many holes in his ideology/plans it's not even funny.

None of his shit would work in the real world, and anyone with a functioning brain can see that.

BTW saying he's the best Republican candidate doesn't mean shit nowadays. Since the Republican party went off the deep end, the clowns took over, and now we have a circus with Ron Paul as the ring leader!

[P4man]

Id still vote for him if I lived in the US. He wont get elected, but so what. Whether Romney or Obama wins makes no difference whatsoever. Skin color and minor variances in their belief of a space god aside, I cant see any major differences.

Ron Paul otoh, may not have all the right idea's, he is about the only politician that I trust to run for the right reasons. He's about the only one not bought for by corporations and probably as incorruptible as politicians get. Voting for him would help make many of the issues he addresses get some attention, like the rise of the police state, all this empire "war is peace" bullshit, the deeply corrupt political system etc.

His economic and social policies would likely be disastrous, but its easier to fix that later, than regaining control of a democracy thats quickly headed towards an Orwellian state.

[Explodicle]

He's trying to take control of the state power machine to make it do what he wants. That's statist.

Regardless, I think you should use what you can to do what you think is right. I'll do the same.

IF a statist system already exists how do you remove it (or maybe degrade it) without taking control of it first?

That's the same thing anarchists in Spain said when confronted with rising fascism. Didn't work. Agorism is probably the fastest way out of corporatism.

[SgtSpike]

I'll just agree to disagree with you FlipPro.  We have different political views, and that's ok.

[FlipPro]

Id still vote for him if I lived in the US. He wont get elected, but so what. Whether Romney or Obama wins makes no difference whatsoever. Skin color and minor variances in their belief of a space god aside, I cant see any major differences.

Ron Paul otoh, may not have all the right idea's, he is about the only politician that I trust to run for the right reasons. He's about the only one not bought for by corporations and probably as incorruptible as politicians get. Voting for him would help make many of the issues he addresses get some attention, like the rise of the police state, all this empire "war is peace" bullshit, the deeply corrupt political system etc.

His economic and social policies would likely be disastrous, but its easier to fix that later, than regaining control of a democracy thats quickly headed towards an Orwellian state.

Actually you're wrong. Romney and Obama are two completely different politicians, and one would take us on a completely different path than we are now.

There are so many Europeans on the Internet spamming Ron Paul all day because they have bankrupt over bloated government, and think he fits their vision of a perfect society...

They feel that anarchy is better than debt.

We do not have the same problems here as you guys do in Europe. While we may have debt, non of these austerity measures Paul's proposing make ANY SENSE what so ever...

The situation in America and Europe are radically different, and what *might* be needed over there , is not needed in the USA...

[P4man]

Actually you're wrong. Romney and Obama are two completely different politicians, and one would take us on a completely different path than we are now.

you really believe that? Im sure you believed Obama would be very different than Bush.
Obama might be black, and certainly is an intelligent guy and a great speaker. Thats about where the differences end. His policies are identical in just about every meaningful respect. Its just a different tone and wrapper. He has done nothing substantially different than Bush, neither in foreign policy, nor in domestic policies. In many respect he has even been Bush on steroids.

There are so many Europeans on the Internet spamming Ron Paul all day because they have bankrupt over bloated government, and think he fits their vision of a perfect society...

No, if Europeans are hoping for Paul to do well in the elections, its because we are frightened to death of whats becoming of the US, and how it will impact us. If it rains in Washington it drips in London and Brussels. All the war mongering, the domestic surveillance bullshit, sopa, bankster bailouts etc...
It has pretty much nothing to do with debt.

[FlipPro]

Actually you're wrong. Romney and Obama are two completely different politicians, and one would take us on a completely different path than we are now.

you really believe that? Im sure you believed Obama would be very different than Bush.
Obama might be black, and certainly is an intelligent guy and a great speaker. Thats about where the differences end. His policies are identical in just about every meaningful respect. Its just a different tone and wrapper. He has done nothing substantially different than Bush, neither in foreign policy, nor in domestic policies. In many respect he has even been Bush on steroids.

There are so many Europeans on the Internet spamming Ron Paul all day because they have bankrupt over bloated government, and think he fits their vision of a perfect society...

No, if Europeans are hoping for Paul to do well in the elections, its because we are frightened to death of whats becoming of the US, and how it will impact us. If it rains in Washington it drips in London and Brussels. All the war mongering, the domestic surveillance bullshit, sopa, bankster bailouts etc...
It has pretty much nothing to do with debt.

It would take to much of my time to prove to you why Ron Paul would be MUCH worse for Europe than President Obama ever could.