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April 22, 2014, 06:47:15 AM
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Unofficial group buy thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577534.0
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April 22, 2014, 07:18:19 AM
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Hey, I don't mean to poop on the party but: KnC is selling the mini Titan (150 Mh/s) for $5.5k or 300 Mh/s for $10k.

 $12.5k for 75 Mh/s?  Assuming a one month head start is worth about 10 BTC, you guys are still betting that your technical + business rep is better than KnC's?
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April 22, 2014, 07:33:03 AM
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Hey, I don't mean to poop on the party but: KnC is selling the mini Titan (150 Mh/s) for $5.5k or 300 Mh/s for $10k.

 $12.5k for 75 Mh/s?  Assuming a one month head start is worth about 10 BTC, you guys are still betting that your technical + business rep is better than KnC's?

A2 chip is come from same family of A1 chip.

It will start mining at May, and I don't know KNC can come out at end of Jun. So 2 months head start and with the numbers out, KNC system will do nada at that time.
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April 22, 2014, 09:18:41 AM
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how many will be available?
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April 22, 2014, 01:27:45 PM
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Hey, I don't mean to poop on the party but: KnC is selling the mini Titan (150 Mh/s) for $5.5k or 300 Mh/s for $10k.

 $12.5k for 75 Mh/s?  Assuming a one month head start is worth about 10 BTC, you guys are still betting that your technical + business rep is better than KnC's?

This is a second reason that my idea of a 1 module machine with out a psu would sell.

 I would spend 2.5 k maybe even 3k  for a 15m machine that had no psu and 4 empty slots for expansion.  I can mine ahead of the curve and if I desire add modules one at a time.

The builder has an easier item to ship safely  yeah same size but mostly empty inside fill it with safety packing.  you the owner adds a psu and you the owner can decide the correct time to upgrade.

A gridseed blade is around 1500 and 5m.

 so a 15m machine at 2.5 to 3k delivered working by may 5-8  is far better. I realize the builder needs a price point to make money.  

We all would buy this at 100 bucks and the builder would go broke.  So somewhere in the 2.5 to 3.5k price range there is a good number for the buyer and the seller.

as the buyer you can adjust to the price of the gear dropping.  I have 30 5 chip gridseeds.  first one I purchased  was 350 usd.  the last 5 I purchased were 102 each.

I could do the same with a machine with space for 5 modules. Buy high and as price drops add one or two modules at a time. Also i avoid too much watt use in the summer coming up.

1 module is around 180 watts.

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April 22, 2014, 02:44:38 PM
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Hey, I don't mean to poop on the party but: KnC is selling the mini Titan (150 Mh/s) for $5.5k or 300 Mh/s for $10k.

 $12.5k for 75 Mh/s?  Assuming a one month head start is worth about 10 BTC, you guys are still betting that your technical + business rep is better than KnC's?

This is a second reason that my idea of a 1 module machine with out a psu would sell.

 I would spend 2.5 k maybe even 3k  for a 15m machine that had no psu and 4 empty slots for expansion.  I can mine ahead of the curve and if I desire add modules one at a time.

The builder has an easier item to ship safely  yeah same size but mostly empty inside fill it with safety packing.  you the owner adds a psu and you the owner can decide the correct time to upgrade.

A gridseed blade is around 1500 and 5m.

 so a 15m machine at 2.5 to 3k delivered working by may 5-8  is far better. I realize the builder needs a price point to make money.  

We all would buy this at 100 bucks and the builder would go broke.  So somewhere in the 2.5 to 3.5k price range there is a good number for the buyer and the seller.

as the buyer you can adjust to the price of the gear dropping.  I have 30 5 chip gridseeds.  first one I purchased  was 350 usd.  the last 5 I purchased were 102 each.

I could do the same with a machine with space for 5 modules. Buy high and as price drops add one or two modules at a time. Also i avoid too much watt use in the summer coming up.

1 module is around 180 watts.

This is where mining is getting more interesting. Last Friday GAW had a one day Gridseed 5 sale for members for $86 ea. For $3.01k you could have bought 12.6 Mh/s . I think also with cloud mining being used to instamine new coins, this is finally putting pressure on the hardware vendors.
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April 22, 2014, 05:09:51 PM
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how many will be available?

I have total 200 units of it for 5 modules calculation.
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April 22, 2014, 05:13:34 PM
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Hey, I don't mean to poop on the party but: KnC is selling the mini Titan (150 Mh/s) for $5.5k or 300 Mh/s for $10k.

 $12.5k for 75 Mh/s?  Assuming a one month head start is worth about 10 BTC, you guys are still betting that your technical + business rep is better than KnC's?

This is a second reason that my idea of a 1 module machine with out a psu would sell.

 I would spend 2.5 k maybe even 3k  for a 15m machine that had no psu and 4 empty slots for expansion.  I can mine ahead of the curve and if I desire add modules one at a time.

The builder has an easier item to ship safely  yeah same size but mostly empty inside fill it with safety packing.  you the owner adds a psu and you the owner can decide the correct time to upgrade.

A gridseed blade is around 1500 and 5m.

 so a 15m machine at 2.5 to 3k delivered working by may 5-8  is far better. I realize the builder needs a price point to make money.  

We all would buy this at 100 bucks and the builder would go broke.  So somewhere in the 2.5 to 3.5k price range there is a good number for the buyer and the seller.

as the buyer you can adjust to the price of the gear dropping.  I have 30 5 chip gridseeds.  first one I purchased  was 350 usd.  the last 5 I purchased were 102 each.

I could do the same with a machine with space for 5 modules. Buy high and as price drops add one or two modules at a time. Also i avoid too much watt use in the summer coming up.

1 module is around 180 watts.

I can do $3500 with a system with 1 module, 5 umpty slots for upgrade.
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April 22, 2014, 06:32:14 PM
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Stay away from this overpriced shit...

You are selling twice the price it's worth...

Every sim I've done are telling me that there's no way you will ever see roi on these...
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April 22, 2014, 09:27:29 PM
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pics? website?

Impossible is a word found only in the dictionary of fools.
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April 22, 2014, 10:13:33 PM
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Stay away from this overpriced shit...

You are selling twice the price it's worth...

Every sim I've done are telling me that there's no way you will ever see roi on these...

You're absolutely right but they won't listen to you.
I always try to warn people before ASICs but somehow nobody cares.
Why don't they try to do the math before investing in something? Ok let's do some quick math for them:
- Average payout per Mhs @ wafflepool 0.006 BTC/1Mhs/day
- 72Mhs would get you: 0.006 x 72 = 0.432BTC/day
- Profit for one month: 0.432BTC/day * 30 = 12.96BTC
- If you pay 25BTC then its ROI = 2 months.

So if this was so easy they could print money themself and won't need to sell us people.
Ok but I don't care anymore. Just buy this and have fun yourself, hopefully.

I just know what it called: It calls GREED.

Just my 2 satoshis.

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April 23, 2014, 03:21:12 PM
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two months?after may ,the net hash rate will be increased huge ,i don't think so for each MH will get 0.006BTC
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April 23, 2014, 07:03:27 PM
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Expensive? Yes. But still cheaper than GPU, right?

Friendly remainder, since A2 is made by InnoSilicion, please check with them to verify partnership. We are JTminer. If you see some others here, need to check too.
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April 23, 2014, 07:07:10 PM
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Update:

We just verified it can run on 1.9M.

With this in mind:

91M (6 modules) $12500
76M (5 modules) $11300

15M (1 module) $3500
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April 23, 2014, 07:21:23 PM
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Good deal IF and only IF you can ship it within two days like bitmain s1  Grin
Unfortunately no company dared to repeat bitmain's in-stock model, even bitmain is lowering their level a bit to their competitors standard with s2 preorder model.
If i recall correctly you were the company who tried to sell for 6000 us$ back then when everyone offered 4000$   Cheesy
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April 23, 2014, 08:00:23 PM
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Good deal IF and only IF you can ship it within two days like bitmain s1  Grin
Unfortunately no company dared to repeat bitmain's in-stock model, even bitmain is lowering their level a bit to their competitors standard with s2 preorder model.
If i recall correctly you were the company who tried to sell for 6000 us$ back then when everyone offered 4000$   Cheesy

We are NOT require prepay for orders.

Currently the chips will arrive before May 1 (which is a Chinese national holiday) and we probably need few days (4-5days) to have everything ready.

So if you are interested, just put your desired quantity and contact info with us.

You can either pay for ship or come to our factory to pay and pick up.

No more pre-order shit.
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April 23, 2014, 08:11:51 PM
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shipping time probably around 5/4-5/5.

I will prepare a foreign account for order taking.

Just remain guys, I just send a JTminer Bitcoin system to Luke-Jr for software development. You can email him to verify we are honest company.

And we don't want to do pre-order etc., so wait for our system ready to ship before you send money.

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http://advancedminers.com/coincraft-a1-asic-chips-arrived/

Same chips only they say a2 - this looks like a photoshpped image.  Photoforensics website shows metadata on 1/1/2014 which is a long time ago - why are there no pictures of working prototypes nor videos of such.  You went so far as to put your own personal bitcoin mining address here - you didn't bother to keep it separate for accounting sales activities = this isn't a legitimate business practice. Zero pictures of a working product, just a screen that says 75 MH - yay. That could be created from using an old nvidia card mining BTC guys.

Please demand a youtube video that shows a working prototype and an explanation as to why the chip looks exactly like the coincraft a1 chip.

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April 23, 2014, 08:56:22 PM
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A1 chip is for bitcoin and A2 chip is for scrypt miner. Both chips are developed from innosilicon.com. From http://bitmine.ch/?page_id=863, it says Bitmine’s Coincraft A1 is a third generation Bitcoin Mining IC developed by Bitmine in co-operation with a team of expert engineers from Innosilicon.   Both of them can sell the A1 chip. "Coincraft A1" is not equal to A1. Please contact innosilicon or bitmine if you have doubt on A1 chip.

Please do not distract this thread with other stuff. You can open your own thread if you want. Thanks.

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April 23, 2014, 09:56:28 PM
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Update:

We just verified it can run on 1.9M.

With this in mind:

91M (6 modules) $12500
76M (5 modules) $11300

15M (1 module) $3500

The 15M $3500 is moving in the right direction.

I agree that giving an upgrade option should make this more attractive....watching.

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April 23, 2014, 09:59:57 PM
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If you guys really want, just reserve with sales@jtminer.com or contact with JTminer.
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