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April 21, 2014, 01:01:34 PM
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hello,

found this (www.bitminers.com) online and wondering if their shop is real ? there s a great scrypt miner offer, has anybody any experiences with them ?

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ok ok, they dont seem to have many former customers Cheesy

wrote them an email to find out, whether they can provide some proof of their former (seller)activity. they ve stated they cant and its normal, because its their 1st batch, deploying in 3 weeks. i asked for pics (or it didnt happen) and replied with grain of arrogance, all info is provided on the site and anyway the big demand  for their products prooves themselves. (dafuq ?)
in my opinion, in case somebody releases a mining hw and its just 3 weeks till deadline, there should be anything around (pics of boards or of fans in empty cases, greets ba) which prooves the existence of such an project, right ?

would you buy from them ?
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April 22, 2014, 07:02:12 PM
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Just navigating that site gives me the heebie jeebies.

Scam sensor going off like crazy, clicking those links.



Maybe William Parry is one of those guys.


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Domain Name: BitMiners.com
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April 22, 2014, 07:06:05 PM
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Just navigating that site gives me the heebie jeebies.






That is a VERY Rapey looking team.. I would avoid sending anything until they have definitive proof of product.. And even then..
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April 22, 2014, 07:11:58 PM
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Just navigating that site gives me the heebie jeebies.






That is a VERY Rapey looking team.. I would avoid sending anything until they have definitive proof of product.. And even then..

Lol I feel bad for that cake, that they're about to plow through.   Lips sealed

In all seriousness, looks like a sketchy operation.  They don't accept credit card or paypal only Bitcoin or Bank transfer, so proceed with caution as always.

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April 22, 2014, 08:53:43 PM
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They look legit to me, all nerdy and geeky. How can you go wrong???  Grin
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April 22, 2014, 08:58:39 PM
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william parry, william parry ... wait, their sales guy i spoke was called "william perez" Cheesy

randoms, there are
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April 30, 2014, 06:25:47 AM
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Pure SCAMMERS.

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May 01, 2014, 08:43:51 AM
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Pure SCAMMERS.

Why would you say that?
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Pure SCAMMERS.

Why would you say that?

Because I have talked with them. I asked them if they can prove that they really have those products, and I said to them that I'm ready to provide bank guarantee or whatever they want that I have the money to buy 10 x Litecoin LTM-X1 200MH (total price is $67,700) or 2 x Litecoin LTM-X6 1200MH (total price $59,540). I wanted to arrange meeting in England (I live in Bulgaria), to test the products and then to pay them. Do you know what they answered me? That they don't have to prove anything to me and that they have "high demand and enough orders from costumers over the world". According to their offer, they have "limited quantity" of 35 x Litecoin LTM-X1 200MH. I was ready to buy 30% of their first batch, and I was ready to wait untill 12-15 May. Does their answer (We do not have to prove anything to you) sounds serious in your opinion? Or their claim that they have "enough orders"? If they have "high demand", those 35 pieces are nothing and they will sell it in 1-2 days. My words were something like "There are many ways to prove you that I have the money to pay what I have ordered. What is your way to prove me that you really have those ASICs?". That's why I think they are SCAMMERS.

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May 01, 2014, 10:50:10 AM
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Right I can understand why you would think they might be scammers. They have been selling Bitcoin contracts for sometime. I'm sure if they were not paying out Bitcoins from those contracts, then at least one of those customers would have put something on the internet, but I cannot find anything negative. I guess more time will tell. Thanks
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Right I can understand why you would think they might be scammers. They have been selling Bitcoin contracts for sometime. I'm sure if they were not paying out Bitcoins from those contracts, then at least one of those customers would have put something on the internet, but I cannot find anything negative. I guess more time will tell. Thanks

We are talking about SCRYPT asic's. Think about something else... Companies like MAT (Mining ASICs Technologies) and KnCMiner have announced their miners months ago, but they will release them Q2/Q3. You should know that I have checked them IN PERSON. Suddenly, a company is popping with domain updated last month and claiming like: "Hey, you can have miner with 5-6 more power, which is just 3 times more expensive than our competition. And guess what?! You can have it in 2-3 weeks!!!". Here's my response to them:
Prove me that you really have working Litecoin LTM-X6 with 1200MH power and 3 year warranty, and I will buy 2 pieces at the price of $40,000 each (original price is $29,770)!
 

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May 01, 2014, 01:57:32 PM
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Pure SCAMMERS.

Why would you say that?

Because I have talked with them. I asked them if they can prove that they really have those products, and I said to them that I'm ready to provide bank guarantee or whatever they want that I have the money to buy 10 x Litecoin LTM-X1 200MH (total price is $67,700) or 2 x Litecoin LTM-X6 1200MH (total price $59,540). I wanted to arrange meeting in England (I live in Bulgaria), to test the products and then to pay them. Do you know what they answered me? That they don't have to prove anything to me and that they have "high demand and enough orders from costumers over the world". According to their offer, they have "limited quantity" of 35 x Litecoin LTM-X1 200MH. I was ready to buy 30% of their first batch, and I was ready to wait untill 12-15 May. Does their answer (We do not have to prove anything to you) sounds serious in your opinion? Or their claim that they have "enough orders"? If they have "high demand", those 35 pieces are nothing and they will sell it in 1-2 days. My words were something like "There are many ways to prove you that I have the money to pay what I have ordered. What is your way to prove me that you really have those ASICs?". That's why I think they are SCAMMERS.

Sorry for my english.

Thanks for your info. Their response is highly suspicious and very likely they don't have the ASICs.
Btw, no worries, I can understand your post without any problem.

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I Secured the last LX-6 miner and my investers was readying to pay the 29k wire transfer. It fell on me to figure out if this place is legit or scammers or what. First off the name of this company is Bitcoin Constuction. The owner tried to open a Business a few months ago in florida and was denied for Fraud For  Fictitious Name. The persons Name is Denise Olaguer she lives in 145 Seeman Drive Encinitas, CA 92024. She or HE then successfully created Bitcoin construction in Cal. Then somehow they Used Waco Texas and Created a website that looks good. They Even have a Decent phone Answering system. Now here is the Jist I called there line 15 times in two days at different times morning noon and 3pm on all 3 of there lines! NO ANSWER! I got ahold of the same guy as mentioned Earlier in a Email. He said Everyone is too busy trying to fulfill Orders to Answer the phone.. Yea bull$hit. There 0 info online on anyone buying anything yet they sell every Major Bitcoin item or Box. They Even say they have some things in stock from butterfly labs that butterfly labs HAS NOT EVEN SHIPPED YET!! The wire transfer info Matched the same city in Cal and the Ficticious owners Address. They also had a UK account they were offering 3% discount on! FRAUD!! they say they have a respresenative there.
 I finally told them I represented a wealthy invester and was willing to purchase a large amount but I had to talk to someone in billing. I got a response of someone will call you.. I received a call from 999-999-2121 someone with a heavey Accent said he was from Bitminers in Sales. He said he was some made up name. I asked him how he spelled it and he took the last name which he pronounced as a A he told me was a O when I asked him to spelled it. I asked if he worked in Sales he said yes he was the only one. YET THE GUY ON THE EMAIL SAID HE WAS IN SALES!! he said he is to busy working to answer the phone because of the may shipment. Then I heard a fucking Bird in the background chirping. The birds you keep in cages as pets AT HOME. Chirp chirp chirp..
Then I asked where he was From. He said " Im FROM WAACKOO TEXAS. LOLOL not Waco WAAAKKKOOO. I said I have to Tour the facility if were going to buy several hundred thousand dollars in equipment. He said NO WAY never.
I then stressed do you have any idea what your saying im willing to purchase most of your next shipment I must verify assets. There was a long pause then he hung up. All in all this is either a few people Trying to start a business with no CAPITOL TRYING TO CON SOMEONE INTO WIRING THEM SOMETHING. They then take the money and try and build a Scrypt miner in 6 months..but no its one or two Scammers setting up a Very Cute very Clever SCAM TO GET A FEW DUMB PEOPLE TO WIRE THERE LIFE SAVING TO THEM AND THEN THEY LAUGH ALL THE WAY TO THE UK. were talking half a million in wire transfers that all they have to do is get a VERY FEW TO SEND THEM MONEY!! PLEASE STAY AWAY. Should I call the Fbi and report this?Huh? anyone?
 
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I guess we only have a couple days to wait to see if they actually deliver.  I sure hope someone will post to let us all know.  If they do turn our legit, I wonder when the next "batch" of production will be?

Their website doesn't work for me more often than it does work - not a good sign.  Shocked
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For what it's worth...
I live in the States and I also emailed to see what the deal is.
I told them about my intensions to purchase from them and got the same email response others are describing here.
I asked if they would either Escrow the full Bitcoin payment or take 50% via Bank Transfer and I'll personally come pick up the unit at their "supposed" Waco TX location, and pay the other 50% COD.
Got the response "We only take full payments and everybody else has paid us in full, via Bitcoin".
I dug into the legality of the LLC company filing, which is registered in Florida... by a lady in Michigan...who used a company in Las Vegas, NV to help register the LLC in FL. And there are NO such business license registered in the state of Texas for Bitcoinminers or the LLC name!!
Now... the address for the Waco, TX location does not show up as a "valid" United States Postal Mail address.
Did a Google drive by (pics taken 2014) and I didn't see anything resembling a legit warehouse. I was going to call any of the businesses in the same are to verify, but haven't had time to do such, since my earlier findings are good enough not to pursue this company!
To anyone reading this....
DO NOT SEND THESE GUYS ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unless they can prove other wise!!!

This has SCAM written all over this  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Buyer Beware!!!!
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May 19, 2014, 03:54:52 PM
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My experience with bitminers.com

at this moment verry bad.
I have ordered a LTM-X1. Delivery shedult for 15.Mai
now we have the 19 Mai. And nothing from bitminers.
Have sent all day a email. no reaction.
before the Sale time they were more talkative.
here is a detail of a email from bitminers.com

Dear Sir,

I'm sorry for a late reply, we have reached the final stage of manufacturing of the first batch of miners. Due to this we are not capable to answer your phone calls and e-mails normally.

Yes, your order will be shipped as scheduled, but most likely on 15 of May.

Best regards,

William Perez
Sales Department

let's see what this week results yet.
at the moment I can only advise you, let the finger from it.
when I have news I will tell you here without delay.

sorry for my bad englisch.

CU
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My experience with bitminers.com

at this moment verry bad.
I have ordered a LTM-X1. Delivery shedult for 15.Mai
now we have the 19 Mai. And nothing from bitminers.
Have sent all day a email. no reaction.

Dear Sir,

I'm sorry for a late reply, we have reached the final stage of manufacturing of the first batch of miners. Due to this we are not capable to answer your phone calls and e-mails normally.

Yes, your order will be shipped as scheduled, but most likely on 15 of May.

Best regards,

William Perez
Sales Department

let's see what this week results yet.
at the moment I can only advise you, let the finger from it.
when I have news I will tell you here without delay.

sorry for my bad englisch.

CU

You would order from this rapey looking crew?   Huh



The guy on the far right probably got a used mini van with your order... Sad

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it happened with me also .they told me my order will be shipped on may 15th and we can get in two to three days. and we have not got any tracking number .they also not answering phone or not replying to email .so it is look like it scam because they have also cancel security certificate for website and there is no address 7450 imperial drive. so any one have got any contact or received the order please update here thanks
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today i have recived a email from bitminers.com

he say he had some problems in manufacturing.
delay of shipig 3-5 days.
after 5 days i will recive the tracking number.

so for the moment i have to wait another week.

this for now, when i have more i post it here.

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