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May 01, 2014, 07:58:23 PM
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it's their choice to naively donate to people they shouldn't be though. it kind of bugs me too, but they are just doing what they want to.. you can't stop that.
In this situation it's not her choice. She is being manipulated.





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May 01, 2014, 08:00:10 PM
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it's their choice to naively donate to people they shouldn't be though. it kind of bugs me too, but they are just doing what they want to.. you can't stop that.
In this situation it's not her choice. She is being manipulated.

it's her choice to be manipulated. no one's holding a gun to her head.
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May 01, 2014, 08:05:30 PM
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it's their choice to naively donate to people they shouldn't be though. it kind of bugs me too, but they are just doing what they want to.. you can't stop that.
In this situation it's not her choice. She is being manipulated.

it's her choice to be manipulated. no one's holding a gun to her head.

If you were slipping into Dementia, would you want somebody to trust you?

Dementia:

http://www.webmd.com/alzheimers/guide/alzheimers-dementia

It's pretty easy to manipulate a good percentage of the people who have it.
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May 01, 2014, 08:07:06 PM
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it's their choice to naively donate to people they shouldn't be though. it kind of bugs me too, but they are just doing what they want to.. you can't stop that.
In this situation it's not her choice. She is being manipulated.

it's her choice to be manipulated. no one's holding a gun to her head.

If you were slipping into Dementia, would you want somebody to trust you?

Dementia:

http://www.webmd.com/alzheimers/guide/alzheimers-dementia

It's pretty easy to manipulate a good percentage of the people who have it.

we don't know that she has dementia. that's apples to oranges.
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May 01, 2014, 08:10:36 PM
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it's their choice to naively donate to people they shouldn't be though. it kind of bugs me too, but they are just doing what they want to.. you can't stop that.
In this situation it's not her choice. She is being manipulated.

it's her choice to be manipulated. no one's holding a gun to her head.

If you were slipping into Dementia, would you want somebody to trust you?

Dementia:

http://www.webmd.com/alzheimers/guide/alzheimers-dementia

It's pretty easy to manipulate a good percentage of the people who have it.

we don't know that she has dementia. that's apples to oranges.

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My mother, who is incredibly religious and is slowly slipping into dementia...

'Slipping'. And I said nothing about having it, I said 'slipping'.
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May 01, 2014, 08:11:35 PM
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it's their choice to naively donate to people they shouldn't be though. it kind of bugs me too, but they are just doing what they want to.. you can't stop that.
In this situation it's not her choice. She is being manipulated.

it's her choice to be manipulated. no one's holding a gun to her head.

If you were slipping into Dementia, would you want somebody to trust you?

Dementia:

http://www.webmd.com/alzheimers/guide/alzheimers-dementia

It's pretty easy to manipulate a good percentage of the people who have it.

we don't know that she has dementia. that's apples to oranges.
Are you serious? OP said so in the first post.





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May 01, 2014, 08:14:44 PM
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it's their choice to naively donate to people they shouldn't be though. it kind of bugs me too, but they are just doing what they want to.. you can't stop that.
In this situation it's not her choice. She is being manipulated.

it's her choice to be manipulated. no one's holding a gun to her head.

If you were slipping into Dementia, would you want somebody to trust you?

Dementia:

http://www.webmd.com/alzheimers/guide/alzheimers-dementia

It's pretty easy to manipulate a good percentage of the people who have it.

we don't know that she has dementia. that's apples to oranges.
Are you serious? OP said so in the first post.

oh, you're right.. i skimmed through the first post before making thatp ost and didn't see mention of dementia.
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May 01, 2014, 08:25:23 PM
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My mother, who is incredibly religious and is slowly slipping into dementia, has started giving money to Andrew Micheal's. I consider this guy an ass-clown, not because he is a Christian, because he is a 'faith healer'. I know that my mother is giving money to this guy because I monitor her bank accounts and email. Yeah, it sounds horrible to watch someone like this and it is. I don't trust her ability to make informed decisions and she has proven in the past that she is easily manipulated. If I was a 'Christian' the conversation would probably go a lot better. Because I am the spawn of Satan, aka an atheist, anytime I bring up something remotely religious it becomes a major issue between us. I'm trying to figure out how to convince her without seeming like I'm insulting her beliefs. Any words of wisdom would be appreciated.

OK, you need to get full Power of Attorney or guardianship before she gets so far gone that you can't and the courts intervene.

With full POA or guardianship you can stop the donations and preserve her funds as she will for sure need them in future.

Hit up your local lawyer.

My $.02.

Wink

This is the right answer. Let her know that you're concerned about her running out of money and offer to take over her finances. Unfortunately this will create more work for you, but you'll be able to preserve her wealth. You can tell her to make a list of organizations that you'll donate to after she's gone and no longer needs the money for herself.

Don't bother to argue about religion or discredit the preacher. Anything you say that runs counter to her existing beliefs will be dismissed as Satan's attempts to deceive her.
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May 01, 2014, 08:26:47 PM
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My mother, who is incredibly religious and is slowly slipping into dementia, has started giving money to Andrew Micheal's. I consider this guy an ass-clown, not because he is a Christian, because he is a 'faith healer'. I know that my mother is giving money to this guy because I monitor her bank accounts and email. Yeah, it sounds horrible to watch someone like this and it is. I don't trust her ability to make informed decisions and she has proven in the past that she is easily manipulated. If I was a 'Christian' the conversation would probably go a lot better. Because I am the spawn of Satan, aka an atheist, anytime I bring up something remotely religious it becomes a major issue between us. I'm trying to figure out how to convince her without seeming like I'm insulting her beliefs. Any words of wisdom would be appreciated.

OK, you need to get full Power of Attorney or guardianship before she gets so far gone that you can't and the courts intervene.

With full POA or guardianship you can stop the donations and preserve her funds as she will for sure need them in future.

Hit up your local lawyer.

My $.02.

Wink

This is the right answer. Let her know that you're concerned about her running out of money and offer to take over her finances. Unfortunately this will create more work for you, but you'll be able to preserve her wealth. You can tell her to make a list of organizations that you'll donate to after she's gone and no longer needs the money for herself.

Don't bother to argue about religion or discredit the preacher. Anything you say that runs counter to her existing beliefs will be dismissed as Satan's attempts to deceive her.
The problem is, it is his mother after all - so maybe he doesn't want to do that.
Or he has brothers / sisters, which would make the issue more complicated.





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May 01, 2014, 11:12:56 PM
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My mother, who is incredibly religious and is slowly slipping into dementia, has started giving money to Andrew Micheal's. I consider this guy an ass-clown, not because he is a Christian, because he is a 'faith healer'. I know that my mother is giving money to this guy because I monitor her bank accounts and email. Yeah, it sounds horrible to watch someone like this and it is. I don't trust her ability to make informed decisions and she has proven in the past that she is easily manipulated. If I was a 'Christian' the conversation would probably go a lot better. Because I am the spawn of Satan, aka an atheist, anytime I bring up something remotely religious it becomes a major issue between us. I'm trying to figure out how to convince her without seeming like I'm insulting her beliefs. Any words of wisdom would be appreciated.

OK, you need to get full Power of Attorney or guardianship before she gets so far gone that you can't and the courts intervene.

With full POA or guardianship you can stop the donations and preserve her funds as she will for sure need them in future.

Hit up your local lawyer.

My $.02.

Wink

This is the right answer. Let her know that you're concerned about her running out of money and offer to take over her finances. Unfortunately this will create more work for you, but you'll be able to preserve her wealth. You can tell her to make a list of organizations that you'll donate to after she's gone and no longer needs the money for herself.

Don't bother to argue about religion or discredit the preacher. Anything you say that runs counter to her existing beliefs will be dismissed as Satan's attempts to deceive her.
The problem is, it is his mother after all - so maybe he doesn't want to do that.
Or he has brothers / sisters, which would make the issue more complicated.

He can either get control of the matter or let things go to Hell.

His choice.

Thank you for your kind reply!

My $.02.

Wink

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