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May 12, 2014, 02:24:03 PM
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Good idea. It's actually a feature of the Lill search engine, as discussed before. We can annotate transaction IDs and wallet addresses for all coins (not just Karma) and attach notes, maps, videos, links and

yeah I understood that your search engine could rank and rate information...

I was thinking more along the lines of a cryptographically secure decentralised way of rating/verifying addresses and passing on encouraging messages through the Karma network itself (ie on the blockchain) so that your client or any blockchain aware app or website could simply tap into the feeds directly and display them live on any screen.

this has several advantages...

1) past feedback can't be tampered with by anyone and by using the hashcash model, bad actors are disincentivised from trolling or bashing competitors.
2) the messaging system cannot be easily blocked by firewalls unlike twitter and facebook.
3) compromised karma addresses can be sufficiently labelled so that people wishing to send to them would get a message in the Karma client itself warning them that their may be a problem as they try to send Karma.
4) anyone can scan the blockchain and find the people/organizations who are doing the most good... (and those doing the least) and contribute to their cause.


I know that a website can do most of that.. but the difference is that a website can be hacked, tampered with, taken offline etc... the block chain pretty much cant.

anyways I know you guys have a mountain of project so if you want to discuss the ideas in further detail at a later date.. its all good...

just imagine twitter + microtransactions on the block-chain that isn't run by anyone and can't be shutdown by anyone. a virtually free service without advertising that grows in value the more people use it.


Sounds like the goal of a lot of the projects I read about on r/darknetplan.  Cool stuff. 

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May 12, 2014, 02:51:33 PM
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Status: 8 confirmations, broadcast through 6 node(s)
Date: 2014/5/12 星期一 22:46
To: KARM : KBC5TRvFLZTAX2a9x64vBqM5EbgHJszZih K8CT2MVF8DLTb9Gh1Rnm9xVrLPEf6XUFiP
Debit: -10000000.00 KARM
Net amount: -10000000.00 KARM
Transaction ID: c1096218d650be01f90a08cc6ce883a11724feee87dacee1829a1d5814bef63e




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May 12, 2014, 03:26:05 PM
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Good idea. It's actually a feature of the Lill search engine, as discussed before. We can annotate transaction IDs and wallet addresses for all coins (not just Karma) and attach notes, maps, videos, links and

yeah I understood that your search engine could rank and rate information...

I was thinking more along the lines of a cryptographically secure decentralised way of rating/verifying addresses and passing on encouraging messages through the Karma network itself (ie on the blockchain) so that your client or any blockchain aware app or website could simply tap into the feeds directly and display them live on any screen.

this has several advantages...

1) past feedback can't be tampered with by anyone and by using the hashcash model, bad actors are disincentivised from trolling or bashing competitors.
2) the messaging system cannot be easily blocked by firewalls unlike twitter and facebook.
3) compromised karma addresses can be sufficiently labelled so that people wishing to send to them would get a message in the Karma client itself warning them that their may be a problem as they try to send Karma.
4) anyone can scan the blockchain and find the people/organizations who are doing the most good... (and those doing the least) and contribute to their cause.


I know that a website can do most of that.. but the difference is that a website can be hacked, tampered with, taken offline etc... the block chain pretty much cant.

anyways I know you guys have a mountain of project so if you want to discuss the ideas in further detail at a later date.. its all good...

just imagine twitter + microtransactions on the block-chain that isn't run by anyone and can't be shutdown by anyone. a virtually free service without advertising that grows in value the more people use it.


This is actually quite awesome, and goes far beyond the scope of the metadata layer I talked about.

Let me digest this.. good stuff!
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May 12, 2014, 05:06:33 PM
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Kosmost,

So do I hear you correctly that the Beta for Lill is going to be released to the community in the next few days?  Which hopefully would also mean going live before May 31st.

That would be wonderful if so.

Not that the discussion regarding PoS is for not...I just believe it's premature to have to make a decision so swiftly regarding PoS.  My point is we could be spending all this time and energy promoting Lill instead of debating PoS.  I believe Lill alone will be far more rewarding to the growth of Karma than PoS could ever be.

A big THANKS to the Karma Team for making this possible.

Bring on LILL




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May 12, 2014, 05:24:19 PM
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on that list.

could you make 3 different arrangement list with the same coins.

list what coin you think is legit on top and less legit to a scam on bottom.

then do an other list based on total number of coins mined already

then do a top list with the most instamined coin on the first 24 hr.




I don`t know why do I need lists. I have posted 10 top coins in terms of 24H volume. That is all. If you want, I will do it every Sunday, or so. If your point is that this coins are not legit, or scam, or have no future, than I will disagree. As I told you before my prediction is that Litecoin will reach 100-120$, Dark - 20-30$ and maybe more after Darksend feauture v2, Vertcoin - about 30$ (I will correct this to 10$ now). Blackcoin will go up again at 80-90K satoshi. We are not talking about my feelings, this is just the reality.
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May 12, 2014, 05:31:21 PM
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Going for a big +1 on this idea.
We can do alot more with the wallet I'm sure if we brainstorm.


Good stuff! Thanks.. will add it to the list of future dev


here is one thing that probably has not been discussed yet.

we have a Karma wall right? where people can post comments.
we encourage people to send small donations to people for doing good.

we know that all altcoins can store a small message with transactions...

so how about we combine those ideas?

how about rather than just spreading Karma around as a token gesture... why don't we actually use it to spread real gestures.

and by that I mean... why not use Karma and the blockchain as the messaging system for sending nice messages of encouragement/feedback along with coins themselves.

we could then hook into the blockchain and pull out those messages and put them up on a website (or block explorer) so that people could actually see the positive comments that went along with the donations.. sort of like a the feedback system used in Ebay etc..

we could make it really easy so that if someone has a website that is accepting Karma donations... people could lookup that address and see the recent feedback (or see it shown on the actual donation page itself) which would give them a better indication of how legit/karma worthy that address actually was..

and ofcourse if someone had a scam donation address people could send negative feedback via a 1 Karma transaction which would mean that they get very little actual money but the negative Feedback is stored for others to see... this ofcourse would encourage Legitimate users of the system to keep their addresses clean so that they can keep collecting donations... and those who are scammers would have to keep changing addresses and thus would perpetually have very little positive feedback.

sounds like a good idea to me.. I give it to the Karma community for free... and if you guys don't implemented it then I may have to just implement it myself for one of my projects.

just think of it... Karma could be the very first crypto currency to have its very own address rating system.


PS.. and another thought.. to stop people from trolling addresses with abusive messages.. we could have a modest but  somewhat prohibitive Fixed transaction fee for negative feedback. (like the HashCash idea to stop email spammers)


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May 12, 2014, 05:34:47 PM
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I have a new pool online!

Please add to the mining pools list supporting Karma.

http://pool.terahashers.com/

I decided to first create a multipool instead of a dedicated karma pool (as I was thinking before) because it will attract other miners from other coins.
I will add much more coins to make Karma reach more miners.

I can still create a dedicated pool for Karm sometime in future if there is interest from the community.

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May 12, 2014, 06:13:54 PM
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Please note that the beta for Lill is released. It will be available to members of the team until we have tested it for 1-2 days, then released to the Karma community.

Team: please check the Karma project subreddit for details - Thanks
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May 12, 2014, 06:19:25 PM
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Kosmost,

So do I hear you correctly that the Beta for Lill is going to be released to the community in the next few days?  Which hopefully would also mean going live before May 31st.

That would be wonderful if so.


Yes, correct.

I just released it to the entire team today. It will be tested by the team first, then released to the community this week (hopefully in the next couple of days). It'll be good to get some feedback from the Karma community while we have it ready. This way, you can give us feedback on how you'd like to see Karma integrated and we can get to work.. maybe even have some basic Karma functions ready in a couple of weeks.


Not that the discussion regarding PoS is for not...I just believe it's premature to have to make a decision so swiftly regarding PoS.  My point is we could be spending all this time and energy promoting Lill instead of debating PoS.  I believe Lill alone will be far more rewarding to the growth of Karma than PoS could ever be.

A big THANKS to the Karma Team for making this possible.

Bring on LILL

We will see Smiley
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May 12, 2014, 06:59:59 PM
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I have a new pool online!

Please add to the mining pools list supporting Karma.

http://pool.terahashers.com/

I decided to first create a multipool instead of a dedicated karma pool (as I was thinking before) because it will attract other miners from other coins.
I will add much more coins to make Karma reach more miners.

I can still create a dedicated pool for Karm sometime in future if there is interest from the community.

Done for OP and r/Karmateam and r/Karmashares
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May 12, 2014, 07:26:03 PM
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Status: 8 confirmations, broadcast through 6 node(s)
Date: 2014/5/12 星期一 22:46
To: KARM : KBC5TRvFLZTAX2a9x64vBqM5EbgHJszZih K8CT2MVF8DLTb9Gh1Rnm9xVrLPEf6XUFiP
Debit: -10000000.00 KARM
Net amount: -10000000.00 KARM
Transaction ID: c1096218d650be01f90a08cc6ce883a11724feee87dacee1829a1d5814bef63e




Haha. . World Cup exciting.David Luis . Grin

Wow! What team???

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May 12, 2014, 07:27:46 PM
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Kosmost,

So do I hear you correctly that the Beta for Lill is going to be released to the community in the next few days?  Which hopefully would also mean going live before May 31st.

That would be wonderful if so.

Not that the discussion regarding PoS is for not...I just believe it's premature to have to make a decision so swiftly regarding PoS.  My point is we could be spending all this time and energy promoting Lill instead of debating PoS.  I believe Lill alone will be far more rewarding to the growth of Karma than PoS could ever be.

A big THANKS to the Karma Team for making this possible.

Bring on LILL





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May 12, 2014, 07:52:47 PM
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Really curious to see "next thing" its really quiet here actually, same people sharing and speaking, i really want to see karma succeed.

One good thing is the 8.2 B to karma share and the new world cup game with some million in .
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May 12, 2014, 08:54:29 PM
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Its weird and maybe its just the coins I am following. But the past days have been pretty quiet without much news all around.

It will pass. Right now Karms are waiting to see the beta for some of the announced projects.  Once those are public I imagine a wave of feedback will be rolling over this thread. Smiley

BTW, for those arguing for a KARM/BTC market, take a look at what good that did for PND...

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May 12, 2014, 08:57:34 PM
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I am testing live LILL.COM beta, and I can say it is bright ! Cool features inside...

IT WILL BE BIG !

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May 12, 2014, 08:59:42 PM
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Really curious to see "next thing" its really quiet here actually, same people sharing and speaking, i really want to see karma succeed.

One good thing is the 8.2 B to karma share and the new world cup game with some million in .

Right now, I am testing lill our search in beta.... defenetively the "next thing"... for me no google anymore....

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May 12, 2014, 09:13:21 PM
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Really curious to see "next thing" its really quiet here actually, same people sharing and speaking, i really want to see karma succeed.

One good thing is the 8.2 B to karma share and the new world cup game with some million in .

Right now, I am testing lill our search in beta.... defenetively the "next thing"... for me no google anymore....

google? what's that?

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OFF. ₭ARMA FB PAGE: https://www.facebook.com/karmacoin.me. http://lill.com
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May 12, 2014, 09:17:20 PM
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Really curious to see "next thing" its really quiet here actually, same people sharing and speaking, i really want to see karma succeed.

One good thing is the 8.2 B to karma share and the new world cup game with some million in .

Right now, I am testing lill our search in beta.... defenetively the "next thing"... for me no google anymore....

google? what's that?

Smiley

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May 12, 2014, 09:38:56 PM
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Getting quite excited about lill.com by reading your little "hints" ! longing for the day it's released for us mortals to use!

lill.com: a new generation search engine

MINT: MhJCsZZN7FooqasmPGB8NJE53jM8VhahqS  --  KARMA: KM1FDgdQUgEBHhw2KDZSChLxyBrE8bASsb
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May 12, 2014, 10:38:31 PM
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Getting quite excited about lill.com by reading your little "hints" ! longing for the day it's released for us mortals to use!

It is still beta, and for sure after such a short production time it will remain in beta for a little while. However, you can see the features, the social media integration and the use for karma. Overall, the google interface looks like Win Xp compared to some apple design....

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