[ANN][KARM] Karma / ₭ / X11

[bitwho]

this is why we need services like trello. To steer away from pointless topics.



Vote with your coins. Dump them and move on. Otherwise join trello. Stop playing the chair game. So easy to type.

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[Alphi]

          THIS DUDE REALLY PIST ME OFF, BUT MAYBE THE DIF IS THAT HE NOT LOST AROUND 3 BTC OF KARM

its called due diligence my friend.. obviously you did not do your research before spending 3 btc on coins.
if you had have followed my advice and sold some coins when they were high then you would have actually made money like I did.
the lil sale was not guaranteed and everybody who was paying attention knew this.

if you believed in some of the price predictions and promises that kosmost made then you should only be angry with him,
everyone else was just making price predictions based on pure speculation without any evidence to back it up..

this is the nature of public message boards... people can speculate and dream as much as they want.. and then when their dreams don't come true they can complain and make accusations as much as they want.. but none of it is fact unless you yourself do your own due diligence.

nobody knew that kosmost was going to self destruct and try to take the community down with him but I guess in hind sight it was to be expected since it is what happened to the last project leader. that is why we shouldn't give one person too much control.

people like you who "lost money" obviously panic sold when they couldn't take the heat. If you didn't sell Karma coins you haven't lost anything so I suggest you simply stop hurting your investment with troll posts and wait for it to go back up.. perhaps even try being constructive so it goes back up quicker.

While you are busy being angry, I think you should also take responsibility for your own actions because posted all over every site were disclaimers telling you NOT to invest more than you could afford to lose.

And Judging by your tone, you clearly could not afford to lose 3BTC.

[bitwho]

Dear community:


There two important events going on that everyone is lacking involvement.

1. Helping us choose or find the best candidate for Karma services that kosmost is awaiting!
http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php/topic,624.0/topicseen.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2g0v6a/karma_services_property_transition_thread_who/
http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2fvv2f/new_karma_team_needed/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/karmacoin/permalink/1556129881272721/

please note that all of the topics were started by kosmost (who is closing them) and Roy (looking to take them over). Aside of private pms i done and Easts effort there is not one else getting involved in the effort to help this transition.

I can argue so much with kosmost about giving karma more time before the right candidate is fund until times up. Please get involved. Spread the word and start finding more people.

So far the only candidate willing to help is Roy and Duke. What should we do ? 

2. Karma api still need to be funded.......



If you want this coin to survive and move forward we have to be able to make quicker decisions. We can start by each and everyone of you taking the time to interview these great people who volunteered to take over the projects. And we can start showing we care about karma by giving fund to projects. Currently the karma API service


you wanted transparency , well there you have it. How much is karma worth to you ?

Are we ready to loose these services? been so many days.

[Alphi]

Are we ready to loose these services? been so many days.

i will support dumping everything that has to do with karmashares and then aggregating the other services onto one server.
what was the point in having a block explorer, check pointing and seed node in 3 different places when they could all presumably run off the same coin daemon?

I really am a newb when it comes to linux servers so I cant offer to take the services over but given how small the community is, it really doesn't make much sense to spread services out all over the place.. neither from a cost or administrative perspective.

[easteagle13]

Warfwarf, Ryan, WHO, ALPHI please check trello board for DEVs we need somethings.

[kosmost]

Karma services transition (Part 2)

info: http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2gqcz5/karma_services_transition_part_2/

vote: http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php?topic=624.0

[kosmost]

It is a little amusing to read the number of posts that imply Karma should not be treated like a product/service (with an actual plan, roles and responsibilities, analyses, etc) but somehow it should be treated like a business when an "investor" decides to sell at a loss. That somehow it is different because it is crypto, a world where 99% of new coins fail because they don't use tried-and-true methods.

Nobody lost coins because of me. 100% of coins was returned. (Further, one does not "invest" in cryptocurrency. You are always advised not to "invest" more than you can afford to lose. You should assume 100% loss at all times.)

If someone "lost" something it is because they decided to sell coins and realized a loss. To suggest that somehow anyone is responsible for another person's decisions isn't the more reasonable suggestion.

Further, it cannot be said that I acted unreasonably. Especially when no reasonable alternatives were offered.

When considering who should take responsibility for Karma we cannot presume that anyone will behave responsible when that person(s) do not respond to important and pressing matters. That would be "irresponsibility" (lack of response), and I'm not signing up for that.

Our greatest loss regarding Karma, perhaps, is our ability to reason.

[Alphi]

It is a little amusing to read the number of posts that imply Karma should not be treated like a product/service (with an actual plan, roles and responsibilities, analyses, etc) but somehow it should be treated like a business when an "investor" decides to sell at a loss. That somehow it is different because it is crypto, a world where 99% of new coins fail because they don't use tried-and-true methods.

Nobody lost coins because of me. 100% of coins was returned. (Further, one does not "invest" in cryptocurrency. You are always advised not to "invest" more than you can afford to lose. You should assume 100% loss at all times.)

If someone "lost" something it is because they decided to sell coins and realized a loss. To suggest that somehow anyone is responsible for another person's decisions isn't the more reasonable suggestion.

Further, it cannot be said that I acted unreasonably. Especially when no reasonable alternatives were offered.

When considering who should take responsibility for Karma we cannot presume that anyone will behave responsible when that person(s) do not respond to important and pressing matters. That would be "irresponsibility" (lack of response), and I'm not signing up for that.

Our greatest loss regarding Karma, perhaps, is our ability to reason.

I agree with you Kosmost but that does not absolve you of any and all responsibility. you did make a lot of written promises and price predictions that you, for whatever reasons did not follow through on and so the people who believed what you said have every right to feel disappointed.

If you claim to be a leader and claim credit for raising the price of Karma you have to also claim responsibility for your own actions that cause it to fall. This is what being a mature and reasonable and responsible member of the community is all about. You cant take all of the credit and none of the blame.. I'm sorry but it just doesn't work that way in the real world.

My advice to you is to not take insults and trolling from strangers personally, take a step back and focus on how you want to move forward with your life without causing more harm to your personal reputation and to the community through disproportionate and ill considered actions.

BTW there is a perfectly good ignore button on these forums you should try it sometimes... I did and it works well.

If you don't want to pay to keep services open then nobody is expecting you to. just back up the files and shut them down and the community can sort it out later.

[easteagle13]

To those who may want to know what the active community members are doing atm for KARMA you are welcome to join us in trello and chat with us in real time using telegram.

[Alexandrake]

Karma services transition (Part 2)

info: http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2gqcz5/karma_services_transition_part_2/

vote: http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php?topic=624.0

I vote for Chargin to hold what he can, let us help him with other things he cannot.

[easteagle13]

Karma services transition (Part 2)

info: http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2gqcz5/karma_services_transition_part_2/

vote: http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php?topic=624.0

I vote for Chargin to hold what he can, let us help him with other things he cannot.

+1

[Alphi]

Karma services transition (Part 2)

info: http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2gqcz5/karma_services_transition_part_2/

vote: http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php?topic=624.0

I vote for Chargin to hold what he can, let us help him with other things he cannot.

+1

I agree.. give control to Chargin. He is a long standing member of the community and although I don't always agree with him, his heart seems to be in the right place.

[MultiDice]

Block explorer down?

[easteagle13]

Block explorer down?

Use this https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto

[altcoingood]

Block explorer down?

Use this https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto

or this karma.explorer.altcoin.dk

[MultiDice]

Block explorer down?

Use this https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!crypto

or this karma.explorer.altcoin.dk

Not sure why, but I withdrew from mintpal to KCfM3sT2km69eK1A5NmKBnnoD7TCrnNrKd and mintpal says confirmed, but can't find it in the blockchain.

EDIT: Okay, all sorted Thanks lads

[MultiDice]

Another 2mil+ hit the bankroll, come get those coins

[easteagle13]

Some improvements on OUR RELATED WEBSITES links, I made them into image links now. A little more attractive to click http://easteagle13.wix.com/karma#!about/cee5

[socoban]

          THIS DUDE REALLY PIST ME OFF, BUT MAYBE THE DIF IS THAT HE NOT LOST AROUND 3 BTC OF KARM

its called due diligence my friend.. obviously you did not do your research before spending 3 btc on coins.
if you had have followed my advice and sold some coins when they were high then you would have actually made money like I did.
the lil sale was not guaranteed and everybody who was paying attention knew this.

if you believed in some of the price predictions and promises that kosmost made then you should only be angry with him,
everyone else was just making price predictions based on pure speculation without any evidence to back it up..

this is the nature of public message boards... people can speculate and dream as much as they want.. and then when their dreams don't come true they can complain and make accusations as much as they want.. but none of it is fact unless you yourself do your own due diligence.

nobody knew that kosmost was going to self destruct and try to take the community down with him but I guess in hind sight it was to be expected since it is what happened to the last project leader. that is why we shouldn't give one person too much control.

people like you who "lost money" obviously panic sold when they couldn't take the heat. If you didn't sell Karma coins you haven't lost anything so I suggest you simply stop hurting your investment with troll posts and wait for it to go back up.. perhaps even try being constructive so it goes back up quicker.

While you are busy being angry, I think you should also take responsibility for your own actions because posted all over every site were disclaimers telling you NOT to invest more than you could afford to lose.

And Judging by your tone, you clearly could not afford to lose 3BTC.

bassieflup has full right to be pissed, whole KarmaShares was scam. He is also right about recent KARM dumping. There were 3 big sales of KARM last 3 days, total 1.3 billion KARM. Nobody had such amount of KARM except very early adopter. Hence It is clear sign, dumper from 31.August is dumping last 3 days. Kosmost is leaving the boat and selling all he can before he move to new scam project. The only good part about this is, there is finite amount of KARM Kosmost owned and his dumping will be soon over. The sooner he dump them all and the sooner he leave forever the better for any possible KARM future. The only difference between KARM and other scam project is, KARM had scammed and pissed more people owning expensive bags and there left some sort of "community". I lost on KARM 2 BTC, even that I dumped at loss at much higher price. I bought some KARM back last days as lottery ticket. But my opinion is there was and still is 1 big scammer involved and there is high probability he was not alone. The only answer I don't know is, when dumper dumps everything will be there any activity after?

[warfwarf]

Karma services transition (Part 2)

info: http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2gqcz5/karma_services_transition_part_2/

vote: http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php?topic=624.0

I vote for Chargin to hold what he can, let us help him with other things he cannot.

+1

I agree.. give control to Chargin. He is a long standing member of the community and although I don't always agree with him, his heart seems to be in the right place.

+ 1 for Chargin