[ANN][KARM] Karma / ₭ / X11

[easteagle13]

I would love to transfer the domain, server image (for the Insight block explorer), and forum SQL dump to someone else while you guys figure it out.

I am busy with other things and I really don't have much time for this to drag on. (My involvement has been far longer than I announced because of this indecisiveness).

Who - how about I transfer the domain and droplet to you right now??

Again I have a legal non-profit with resources standing by.

I also have just over 1M Karma now -- and yet are still banned from Trello !?!

But MORE importantly we just turned up full Karma support within https://doabitofgood.com.

I can now relay as I told Easteagle -- I have a large group of Karma investors very interested in what we're proposing (you can look at where I got 1M Karma so quickly without buying the from an exchange if you don't believe me) -- they are closely monitoring all of my interaction with the community, so please keep that in mind -- however you treat me, you're basically treating them.

I'm ready to have our attorney review the Trademark, verify its validity and compensate the holder for it as well as spin up hosts to manage the essential services (karmacoin.me / block explorer / et al)

I have already shared several very large potential future uses for Karma from REPUTATION to TIPPING PLATFORM for real world transactions to expand the economy.  I have others but those should suffice to show potential.

It's up to you guys to decide.  Do you trust a named US based citizen with a legal non-profit to help the coin or a couple of guys who just showed up claiming to have a large investment that will likely drive their self-interest.

Lead, Follow, or get out of the way.

We have an empire to build and I'd like to do it with Karma.

Let me know what you decide...

-dvd

I was waiting for you to mention BITWHO, the "investor friend" who sent you 1M karma. Trello is open to you...I'll add you again later.

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[bitwho]

.... mod of r/karmateam , admin in trello , gmail account( where most of these services were register with), ....

Since you've identified yourself as the moderator of r/karmateam. please consider posting more than 1x in the past 30 days. We need to keep the subreddit active

i just replied to some one in there posting "karma is dead". Would love to be as much active as i used to be but i am kinda burned out at the moment. I work well when other people get involved. Why should I or you be the only ones actively posting? if the community doesnt care to up keep all out social medias then so be it. let them die.

We need to shake off this mentality that few people should do everything. We are trying to be dogecoin but the oposite. Shibes do everything while the dev team stay quiet. In karma the team does everything and the karmanian do nothing

here are some social places :

Facebook :
https://www.facebook.com/groups/karmacoin/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/271137736388047/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/288330328009548/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/248421115352551/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/karma.international/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/229157823960733/
https://www.facebook.com/karmacoin.me

Twitter :
https://twitter.com/karmacoinme
https://twitter.com/_KarmaTeam_
#karmacoin  --- https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=karmacoin&src=typd

Reddit :
http://www.reddit.com/r/karmateam
http://www.reddit.com/r/Karmadev

Forums :
http://karmashares.com/forums/index.php
trello.com

news blog
http://karmawire.net/category/news/

etc...

Except some facebook activity there not a whole lot of people being active recently. this all has to be a whole community movement or else. We shouldn't continue expecting 3-4 people posting hours and hours of content while the rest sit on their asses. As more time passes, more and more i am becoming aware of how much more people we have in the community. There tons of people who like karmacoin but they do not bother to do anything. Not one post, tweet or  a share. Tons of facebook likes though. at list those supporters got the time to click a "like" for karma. not all hope is lost.

The only way to get people to post is when its price related........


I think this community needs a massive shake down. We need to stop having everyone ride on the shoulder of few people and get everyone involved. we have seen that willingly no one a lot are stepping in. So we should come up with a way that they are forced to.

I suggest we set up a payment method. two quotas for both developments funds and active team funds. Open up two address of karma/btc/lts . 100 millions karma a week to be donated by the public to go to funds and maybe 50 mills karma a week to be payed to people who are willing to perform funds. Every week they must be filled or nothing. If the community doesnt want to do work then they must pay the fees to those few people who are trying. East, collecting almost 0.23 btc worth was this close to set up an API.

Two public address.
one for dev fees such as API and other services
one to go to pay the active members that show up and help karma push forward. end of the week these people will get rewarded the split of the donate coin. I am sure this will create a great momentum and get more and more people to help karma. We split these people in different groups like : facebook group , reddit group , News blogs etc. reward them with coin for helping keeping our social media active and staying relevant. Basically creating a paying job. I hope tons of people will stop staring at the computer screen and join to get 1-2 mills a week by helping us upkeep the social networks. This is will be a good way to find people to help members like ThelittleDuke who would need a group of people to help their projects.


We create quotas to the community will have to furfill and realize that they con not ride the free train like they did with Kosmost and us for so long.

lets create the form of system where the whole community can advise task and if this group does the tasks not only will they be helping Karma but they can pocket some cool mills.


I am sure if we all put our mind into it we can come up with such system. With 0.3 btcs , East almost had for us a working API. Imagine what 1 btc minimum a week  could do. there services , marketing , giveaway and tons of stuff we can use this for.

[bitwho]

I sent you the 1 mill David  

Then you must be a friend of Doug's...

no. i am a karmanian who saw a Karma address and i couldn't help but tip it!  

[altcoingood]

I sent you the 1 mill David 

Then you must be a friend of Doug's...

no. i am a karmanian who so a Karma address and i could help but tip it! 

I think the best thing for karma would be for you to distance yourself from dev-involvement, just like kosmost should.

And this is for kosmost: please explain the $500/month pricetag for lill.com.

[bitwho]

I sent you the 1 mill David  

Then you must be a friend of Doug's...

no. i am a karmanian who so a Karma address and i could help but tip it!  

I think the best thing for karma would be for you to distance yourself from dev-involvement, just like kosmost should.

And this is for kosmost: please explain the $500/month pricetag for lill.com.

Did you go on that spiritual trip brother?  doesn't seem like it.  

[easteagle13]

Forget the past.

With trello, KARMA TEAM=COMMUNITY, everyone that wants to help is a part of the team now. Everyone who helps, will be "in the loop"

By the community, for the community.

GOOD NEWS, our KARMA API will be available soon(max of 3 weeks),

then we will run tests before finally making the access, public. Our bounty for that, is 0.32 BTC Donation address---->>>>  12RVXoccgLy8o4GyeUULRmYhaaEL2emvQD
Present Fund Balance is: 0.05340089, we only need at least 36 persons to send in 0.0075BTC to complete the needed amount

With KARMA API, other developers will be able to easily integrate KARMA into their SITES, GAMES and OTHER APPS, making Karma adoption easier, it will also take us a step closer to one of our aim to bring KARMA to those "who need it most".

Great!
Don't have btc but I can donate Karma, that's about 2mill Karma at current prices, right?

Right! You're very good in math I see.

So can we donate in Karma?

CERTAINLY. Thanks bondi!

Just to give a heads up...totally unexpected, I hope he is just sick of fever or something...

Okay, this guy above, has totally gone silent on us. We found another but he will only do it for 350$



We have funded and encashed 150$ (0.32BTC) as of the moment so we need 200$ more which at today's market price is 0.473 BTC, please send your donations to 12RVXoccgLy8o4GyeUULRmYhaaEL2emvQD

-east

[easteagle13]

Okay, this guy above, has totally gone silent on us. We found another but he will only do it for 350$



We have funded and encashed 150$ (0.32BTC) as of the moment so we need 200$ more which at today's market price is 0.473 BTC, please send your donations to 12RVXoccgLy8o4GyeUULRmYhaaEL2emvQD

-east

Okay the guy, agreed for 300$ please, donate now so we can settle everything.

BTW, If you would need a KARMA amount calculator for something you will be paid with, like products or services you got. Please use this page. http://easteagle13.wix.com/karma

[perhan007]

Hello Karmanians,

My Name is André and I am Perica's (perham007) Business Partner and Friend. I had no intention in posting here as I am known for someone who is rather not diplomatic at times and speaks his mind too freely. That of course can be perceived very easily as hostile and aggressive, especially if you just read it instead of sitting opposite of me and talking about it. I hate to waste time, so let me speak my Mind...

First:

I like everyone who is actually voicing any requests or demands to introduce himself, anyone who calls himself a Karma-Core Tech/Developer/Inner-Circle Manager/ Decision Maker please make yourself know.

Hello,

Nice to see you come forward. wished you both had come out earlier. It doesn't make sense when people say we sat and watched Kosmost do his thing. Hope that we can start to understand as a community we are all need to do out part. There shouldn't be one group of people trying something , why others watch. The more projects try to give it a shot the better is for karma  

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Name: Who (real name is irrelevant)

Age: not bellow 30

City of Residence: BTT , r/karmateam  and any other karma related place. 24/7   my icon is always green for karma!

Function: One of the 5 people who took over the coin from old dev. Together with Kosmost , i helped brainstorm and seek out talent to execute our changes. Now with kosmost out, i oversee the password to the github account (source code) , This BTT thread , one of the twitters, mod of r/karmateam , admin in trello , gmail account( where most of these services were register with), admin in most facebook groups. Still need access from kosmost to main facebook account. Most of the times there is 3-4 people who share this info. it used to be me kosmost , javi and Shawn. At this moment it is me and East. Ryan too if he had not gone vacation and stayed MIA.

Total Value of Karma Coins: roughly anywhere between 300 - 500 mills.
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I like to know who I am talking to, I believe that if you have genuine intentions for Karma's future it is a reasonable request considering that everyone is hiding currently behind pseudonym here.

I am known as "Who" ever since i got involved with karma. I don't see how important it is to prove your real life identity in this part of the crypto world. Don't get me wrong, it is nice to have that comfort feeling you know some one identity but to me that should not give you 5 stars. Here is what i mean :
 If community does pick you to host the main www.Karmacoin.me site and a week later you go MIA there is nothing i can do. knowing your full name and all. I will be practically impossible to prove that that was you posting here all this time . Not to mention you're giving us your word.  Anyways,dont mean to go off topic and i am not looking to say having real names doesn't mean a lot. If us karmanians learned anything from the whole LLC fiasco is that if it is not on paper it doesn't meant anything. Since there is no legal way a piece of paper could protect a community such as ours then there is not a whole lot of protection we can get knowing one's real name. I could be wrong but i don't see something like "i,joe doe , promise to always keep this site online for Karma coin and its community" as i don't see how anyone can legally represent karma community or the coin. The coin is open source so there is no "owners"

The only good thing having some one real name is that you can Google them to validate their experience. Also the matter that when some one reveals their name it would be on their best interest to not do something to hurt the community or they can be stalked and harassed both socially and in real life. This would be strong indicator that this person is not out to scam.

So most of the times , for what we do in this side of the world, some one name is irrelevant, because that person is not accountable for the whole coins success. This is why the kind of services we should strive for should be services that are trustless. As little as much to be influence by human and human errors.

For example, most of the people i worked and still work about karma, i did not know their name nor did i care for them because to me what counted is that they did the work. The only time some one name help me is when i can check their credentials and not worry if what they say its true.

Again i dont mean to start a whole topic of why or why not some one name is important , but for what we are trying to do here it is not necessary.

Here is what I am interested in:
As one of the Biggest Stakeholders in Karmacoins I believe we can make such a request considering that our Company has openly showed interest to help out here on our own cost. Perica was very clear on the fact that we do not want to own Karma, but ensure it goes back to a state where it is able to attract Investors else this is just another dead pile of bytes.

David (TheLittleDuck) made also a lot of very good points and it is clear that with like any other Business there has to be a Management line looking after the Interest of the Stakeholders. It is a Community driven Project
and as such it has to be driven. But it need clear insurance that such a disaster does not repeat itself. Whoever is taking charge and stepping up as Godfather of Karmacoin will have the responsibility to ensure the Services continue without major interruptions for the future.

This should be the first and only Task we are discussing at this point in time on this Thread. All other discussions about new Services, Ideas, Actions etc. should be placed in its own Karma-Forum.

Lets not waste any more time with chitchat and this childish flame/blame accusation threads because that only shows immaturity and makes clear that your Mind is way to young to have a seat on the board.

Sincerely
André

It is clearer now on this post. thank you. i wished you and your partner post some more. You can not expect us to hand over things from only two post made by one and one from you.

I am very happy to see both of yous and David show interest. I am exhausted trying to push for this coin. Its so hard to do something when there are less then 10 active people and only 2 show up daily. Not sure how Kosmost kept his cool for so long. he was a go getter. I'm .. understanding kind of person.

Here is the deal :

Its seems to me that you and Perica, are not ready to provide information on what kind of projects you want to implement karma with. At this time you just want to host the site/services that are offline to help karma out. Also since you will be the one hosting them , you will feel very comfortable because it will mean they will be at a secure place and won't go offline again. This is good to hear but also note that Kosmost did say the same. or maybe he didnt we just assumed so... Either way , you must understand why no one is jumping from joy. At this moment the community has raised their shield to anyone promising sweet talk. it is best you guys become very active and post your thoughts so they can get to know you more and feel comfortable. thoughts not only on who should host but all kind of topics that get brought up here.

What do i mean by that?  well because it wont matter who host who. It is the community who will decided where to go and whom to support. You can create brand new ones and lunch them but unless you become an active member, not a lot of people will follow you. In the end is the community that decides to use them or not. As an example , Trello and telegram. We have been asking people to join for weeks and not a lot are doing it. We can say "official" as much as we want but unless most of them come on board then it is not useful to us.

So where do we stand. Well, i dont see any problems about you guys hosting the sites but you both do need to start becoming more active. That means get in touch with me and East and also post more here so members can get a feel of how you will react to different topics. Will you be tolerate to criticism? will you be aggressive? etc. You will need to create that bond with the members here if you wish to have them help you with your plans. Especially the more active members . they are the ones who pretty much vote or voice their opinions. it is them you should try to engage with. You can find them here , on trello and telegram. Hopefully in the karma forum as well.


i agree that we should stop wasting anymore time with this issue. there has been to much lack of attention on moving forward. In reality is that we tried to wait for community to intervene and help us decide the best solution. Again, most of the members just like to watch. they don't like to do a lot of thing or help with decision but they love to come here and criticize when a decision is chosen.

I think we all should have a group chat. Me ,east, chargin , you two , David ,  Komost and who ever else bothers to come to the meeting. Lets us all get together and figure out the perfect solution to this and lets move forward to more important things.

I agree to have a group chat asap: I'm available the whole week end.

[easteagle13]

I agree to have a group chat asap: I'm available the whole week end.

Hi perhan007, glad to see that you are willing for the chat, kindly make a TELEGRAM account, and send me a private message so I can add your account to our Telegram group.

The same goes for everybody else in the KARMA community who may want to take part in this meeting.

[easteagle13]

Okay, this guy above, has totally gone silent on us. We found another but he will only do it for 350$



We have funded and encashed 150$ (0.32BTC) as of the moment so we need 200$ more which at today's market price is 0.473 BTC, please send your donations to 12RVXoccgLy8o4GyeUULRmYhaaEL2emvQD

-east

Okay the guy, agreed for 300$ please, donate now so we can settle everything.

BTW, If you would need a KARMA amount calculator for something you will be paid with, like products or services you got. Please use this page. http://easteagle13.wix.com/karma

Hired the guy for our API, the deal is as follows:

1. 75$ deposit up to the first field test of our API (patterned after reddapi https://www.reddapi.com/docs/rest/v1/),

2. another 75$ for the second release after bug fixing when the first tests are done.

3. then the last 150$ when the final release is given, support for 90days for other bugs. (bugs, not extension of capability or revision of API)

4. ETA for the initial field tests October 15, 2014. (conservative 3 weeks projection)

-east



I would like to ask those who have boxes that can be used for the actual tests, please do prepare, so that we can go over this smoothly...thank you.

[TheLittleDuke]

Hired the guy for our API, the deal is as follows:

1. 75$ deposit up to the first field test of our API (patterned after reddapi https://www.reddapi.com/docs/rest/v1/),

2. another 75$ for the second release after bug fixing when the first tests are done.

3. then the last 150$ when the final release is given, support for 90days for other bugs. (bugs, not extension of capability or revision of API)

4. ETA for the initial field tests October 15, 2014. (conservative 3 weeks projection)

-east

I would like to ask those who have boxes that can be used for the actual tests, please do prepare, so that we can go over this smoothly...thank you.

^^^^^
THIS is why I think there needs to be STRUCTURE and a BOARD of stakeholders

Because if you had published your specification and solicited bids you would have likely got a better deal.

Because my team at Strength in Numbers Foundation is willing to do the API work for FREE -- since we already have a large catalog of functions and capability already built up.

We believe all boats rise when the tide comes in.

-dvd

[bondi]

  I try to help the upgoing price a little, and some wako start to take it down again where is the support from you guys where are the buy walls on cryptsy.

 

I have mine there...

[disco987]

What's up here, maybe insight trading?
Sorry for my english

[bondi]

What's up here, maybe insight trading?
Sorry for my english

Lol, not on my part... I buy karma whenever I can(bought from 78 to 400litoshi...).

[disco987]

What's up here, maybe insight trading? 
Sorry for my english

Lol, not on my part... I buy karma whenever I can(bought from 78 to 400litoshi...).
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What do we do with so much karma? 

[jluizg]

I'm buying (29 lit on Mintpal) and selling (49 lit on Bleutrade).

To trade: https://bleutrade.com/exchange/2192

[bitwho]

I would love to transfer the domain, server image (for the Insight block explorer), and forum SQL dump to someone else while you guys figure it out.

I am busy with other things and I really don't have much time for this to drag on. (My involvement has been far longer than I announced because of this indecisiveness).

Who - how about I transfer the domain and droplet to you right now??

i dont even know where to start to get them from you or i would.


we're getting closer to find the right person thought. almost there

[Maurizio]

dump again

[bitwho]

dump again

if we do not seek out a reverse split. then each massive dumps will result in low price drop.

[Maurizio]

dump again

if we do not seek out a reverse split. then each massive dumps will result in low price drop.

No thanks.