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[trytrytry]

could a person just say..open up one at all 9?

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[Cointeller.eu]

Yes, of course.  You may have an account at each sportsbook .  Each sportsbook has a minimum deposit amount.  Those amounts are listed on the cointeller.eu website.  Sorry to say none of our books have horses at the moment. 

[hypersire]

I'm still a bit confused as to how this works. So we open an account with Cointeller and deposit BTC to Cointeller. Do we then have to personally open accounts at each of the books we are interested in (and go through their verification procedures, send in ID, etc) or is this all handled by Cointeller?

[Cointeller.eu]

No verification, No ID.  You are completely anonymous.  We provide you with the accounts from the sportsbooks. 

[trytrytry]

Yes, of course.  You may have an account at each sportsbook .  Each sportsbook has a minimum deposit amount.  Those amounts are listed on the cointeller.eu website.  Sorry to say none of our books have horses at the moment. 

it looks like about 4 of them offer horses?  why do you say they dont?

[Cointeller.eu]

Each bookmaker can enable/disable horses/or casino.  No one has come forward with a horses version yet.  I will keep an eye out for that.  I know DirecBet has horses, have you tried them?

[trytrytry]

Each bookmaker can enable/disable horses/or casino.  No one has come forward with a horses version yet.  I will keep an eye out for that.  I know DirecBet has horses, have you tried them?

they dont really have a horse book..they have to win prices on select cards...DGS horse.dog software is what is needed for a bitcoin book like most of the post up and credit books have...

[Legions36]

Legions36,

You raise some interesting points.  I’ll try to respond to them.  

The term “agent” is a confusing a term within this industry with a mostly pejorative connotation.   The truth is an “agent” can be bookmaker with hundreds or thousands of customers, booked through a site he has contracted to do service/write his customers or it can be a little guy who operates at the bottom end of the food chain, meeting up with small number of local players hoping to extract a small percent of player losses.  In the case of all the sites on the Cointeller Network, the accounts are being booked by large, established bookmakers with a very large customer base.  In the future, I will probably be more inclined to describe our bookmakers as “pph bookmakers” as opposed to “agents.”  Both terms are accurate but the term “agent” is confusing and unnerving for many.  The owners of Cointeller.eu as well most of the bookmakers on the Cointeller Network have been in the offshore industry for over a decade.  Many of these individuals have worked with one another for years.  There is not a bookmaker on the list that Cointeller does not feel comfortable guaranteeing.


Additionally, you will not see any large bet sizes or ridiculous bonuses.  Initial maximum bet sizes will be in the 4-6 BTC range.  This will grow in time.  At the moment, no bookmakers are allowed to offer a bonus to players on the Cointeller Network.   There are a few pph bookmakers who are willing to offer a introductory bonus and others who are dead set against it.  Allowing bonuses to be offered by a few pph bookmakers is a a real disincentive to other potential bookmakers Cointeller is currently negotiating with.   At some point, small, on-time time bonuses will be allowed .   Cointeller is focused on gradual sustained growth.

 We realize trust is not awarded without a spotless history of prompt payouts and excellent customer service.  In the months and years to come, you will see more established, well known books appear and a lot of “bobo” books.  There is no difference in terms of risk associated with any of these books.  We realize some players like to see more well known books, while other (mostly sharp) players desire off-screen pph offices with unique numbers.  We believe Cointeller offers something of value for all types of players.  

Ok now it's time to consider to show some proof to all the good stuff u r saying. U say u have been in the industry for years as well as your bookmakers right? Then allow SBR or Peepsplace to look into your history more and verify everything u say to be true.
I cannot agree with what u said about SBR ratings as most of the time they are spot on, even though I don't agree with everything they have done. This raises a flag that u find the need to downplay the years they have been around. I have been with them for years and almost always followed them with good results.
Also u don't go for bonuses? This makes don't add up right, I love bonuses and feel if I want a bonus from a place then I deserve the right to have this.
What do u think about what I have said here? I also really hate that u feel all those books u have now are A+, when they really aren't even mediocre at best, the best thing they could offer players are bonuses and u won't even allow that. So people have no reason to use them when we can get better odds at other places.

[Rulishix]

Anybody have any good experiences with these guys? Considering using them.

[Cointeller.eu]

Legions36,

You raise some interesting points.  I’ll try to respond to them.  

The term “agent” is a confusing a term within this industry with a mostly pejorative connotation.   The truth is an “agent” can be bookmaker with hundreds or thousands of customers, booked through a site he has contracted to do service/write his customers or it can be a little guy who operates at the bottom end of the food chain, meeting up with small number of local players hoping to extract a small percent of player losses.  In the case of all the sites on the Cointeller Network, the accounts are being booked by large, established bookmakers with a very large customer base.  In the future, I will probably be more inclined to describe our bookmakers as “pph bookmakers” as opposed to “agents.”  Both terms are accurate but the term “agent” is confusing and unnerving for many.  The owners of Cointeller.eu as well most of the bookmakers on the Cointeller Network have been in the offshore industry for over a decade.  Many of these individuals have worked with one another for years.  There is not a bookmaker on the list that Cointeller does not feel comfortable guaranteeing.


Additionally, you will not see any large bet sizes or ridiculous bonuses.  Initial maximum bet sizes will be in the 4-6 BTC range.  This will grow in time.  At the moment, no bookmakers are allowed to offer a bonus to players on the Cointeller Network.   There are a few pph bookmakers who are willing to offer a introductory bonus and others who are dead set against it.  Allowing bonuses to be offered by a few pph bookmakers is a a real disincentive to other potential bookmakers Cointeller is currently negotiating with.   At some point, small, on-time time bonuses will be allowed .   Cointeller is focused on gradual sustained growth.

 We realize trust is not awarded without a spotless history of prompt payouts and excellent customer service.  In the months and years to come, you will see more established, well known books appear and a lot of “bobo” books.  There is no difference in terms of risk associated with any of these books.  We realize some players like to see more well known books, while other (mostly sharp) players desire off-screen pph offices with unique numbers.  We believe Cointeller offers something of value for all types of players.  

Ok now it's time to consider to show some proof to all the good stuff u r saying. U say u have been in the industry for years as well as your bookmakers right? Then allow SBR or Peepsplace to look into your history more and verify everything u say to be true.
I cannot agree with what u said about SBR ratings as most of the time they are spot on, even though I don't agree with everything they have done. This raises a flag that u find the need to downplay the years they have been around. I have been with them for years and almost always followed them with good results.
Also u don't go for bonuses? This makes don't add up right, I love bonuses and feel if I want a bonus from a place then I deserve the right to have this.
What do u think about what I have said here? I also really hate that u feel all those books u have now are A+, when they really aren't even mediocre at best, the best thing they could offer players are bonuses and u won't even allow that. So people have no reason to use them when we can get better odds at other places.

I'm not surprised you like bonuses, most players do.  We are offering an anonymous betting service.  IMO, offering bonuses along with anonymity is foolish .  If our bookmakers want to offer such a product, I would advise them against doing it.  If you find solid betting services that offer BTC and bonuses I would you encourage you to take them.

Your analysis of A+/C- books ignores the fact that our vast majority of sportsbooks are pph bookmakers who have contracted to pph offices to write their action.  This is completely separate from the post up division of sportsbooks you are reading about. We have an established stable of bookmakers who are interesting in adding additional customers not start up sportsbooks throwing bonuses at the masses in an attempt  to instantly grow a customer base.

I appreciate your carefulness and the fact you don't know anything about us.  For your own sake, please maintain the same level of caution when you are offered BTC, bonuses and low juice.

[Legions36]

Your response alone tells me something is up with u. Your already on the defensive and I have seen this before from places to end up screwing people. GL
People u guys need to be careful playing here. Hopefully I'm wrong. I will sit back and get more feedback from established players here before I put a penny with u, I have so many places to choose from before going to u.

[Cointeller.eu]

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[Cointeller.eu]

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[Jcw188]

I like the idea so I'm trying to think of an added benefit to using this service. Could you middle a bet at two books?  That is, are the odds at books in the network sometimes different so you can get over 209 and under 210.5 on a given nba game?

Are the transfers instant when you deposit and withdraw from a certain book?

Finally I do need to see someone posting that they've used the service before I would consider depositing.

[Cointeller.eu]

I like the idea so I'm trying to think of an added benefit to using this service. Could you middle a bet at two books?  That is, are the odds at books in the network sometimes different so you can get over 209 and under 210.5 on a given nba game?

Yes, each site in the network has no knowledge of wagers placed at other network sites.

Are the transfers instant when you deposit and withdraw from a certain book?

All transfers between sites within the network are handled by a VIP Host.  We strive to answer all requests within a few minutes (including deposit and withdrawal messages), and transfers between sites in the Cointeller network are immediate.

Finally I do need to see someone posting that they've used the service before I would consider depositing.

Completely understandable.  As we have said earlier in this thread, Cointeller understands that the burden of proof falls upon us, and we hope that solid ratings and good customer service will show our stability in the long term.

If you have any more questions or would like to speak to a VIP Host, just sign up for free on Cointeller.eu (no personal information is or will ever be necessary) and send a message, you should receive a reply shortly!

[minet12x]

Your top book is Jazz(ABC Islands)...who's Philadelphia agent almost bankrupted them because he buried all the cash in plastic pipes in the back yard in BROAD DAY LIGHT in front of all the neighbors
Than they went and bought that dump-card room/casino/Whore house in costa rica and have continued to lose money on it

Not my top choice for the Escazu strip mall sportsbooks

But to be fair they are trying to come back and have had no pay out issues and have, last i heard paid everyone they owed
But still top management has made some very bad choices

You get Mickey or Tony(If your legitimate than you know who they are and what books they own) to post in this thread that they have met with you and vouch for your company
than i will be the first to sign up
I post all over sportsbook forumville
go over and check some of my post/threads
shouldn't be to hard to figure out my handle
otherwise i would advise everyone to proceed with extreme caution


 

[Rococo44]

How do you guys protect yourselves vs sharps ?

[redmouse]

Completely understandable.  As we have said earlier in this thread, Cointeller understands that the burden of proof falls upon us, and we hope that solid ratings and good customer service will show our stability in the long term.

If you have any more questions or would like to speak to a VIP Host, just sign up for free on Cointeller.eu (no personal information is or will ever be necessary) and send a message, you should receive a reply shortly!

I sent a message 3 days ago and still have no answer.
I also sent some bitcoin to my deposit address, and my account has not been credited yet.

If anybody is thinking of using this service, I would recommend to wait.

[Minnlo]

Completely understandable.  As we have said earlier in this thread, Cointeller understands that the burden of proof falls upon us, and we hope that solid ratings and good customer service will show our stability in the long term.

If you have any more questions or would like to speak to a VIP Host, just sign up for free on Cointeller.eu (no personal information is or will ever be necessary) and send a message, you should receive a reply shortly!

I sent a message 3 days ago and still have no answer.
I also sent some bitcoin to my deposit address, and my account has not been credited yet.

If anybody is thinking of using this service, I would recommend to wait.

OP logged in his account last time on May 31, which is probably not a good news to you...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=319428

[Cointeller.eu]

Update from Cointeller.eu,

We have been in the process of revamping our support staff and support processes.  A number of support tickets submitted via our customer dashboard were marked as Completed by a member of the support staff when in fact they had not been addressed.

We have finished working through these support tickets, if you were affected by this, or if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us via this forum or the customer dashboard.

We will soon be releasing our live customer support chat system, which should allow for much better support and addressing of issues.

On a brighter note, we have been steadily growing since the launch of the Cointeller Network, and despite this temporary lapse in support our customers seem to be very pleased with the wide array of betting options available to them.  We hope to have some great news on new additions to the Cointeller Network soon!