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April 24, 2014, 12:50:19 AM
Last edit: May 02, 2014, 09:53:11 PM by BitcoinValet
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This is a pre-assembly group buy That will run for 1 week. Once the group buy has closed it will take about 3-4 weeks to complete assembly and shipping. There is no minimum for us to execute the order, our order is ready to be placed, this is just to add additional units.
This Group Buy closes Midnight April 30th EST

The design is from VS3
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321287

Miners will be fully assembled, tested, and individually packaged. Price includes chips, heatsink, and all other parts.

Specs:
11GH/s (could be more, unlikely to be less) @ 1.2A
high-efficiency convection heat sink included, attached with thermal tape
should run at around 75C but components rated up to 105C
40mm X 65mm. With heat sinks attached they should be around 11mm thick, but definitely no more than 13mm.

Prototype and pre-production pics:
http://imgur.com/a/E5vbW


Pricing
All prices are in BTC.
I can accept PayPal from verified buyers with confirmed addresses that the miners will be shipped to.

qty.Price in BTC (per unit)
1-9BTC0.2
10-49 BTC0.19
50-100BTC0.179
101+PM me for pricing

Shipping:
All shipping will be through USPS. If you need a different service please contact me before placing your order. Shipping to Australia will be handled by bitgtr.
I can also accept prepaid labels.

US Shipping - Up to 15 units:
BTC0.0115 Priority 2-3 day
BTC0.039 Express 1 day
International Shipping - Up to 15 units:
BTC0.052 Priority 6-10 day
BTC0.096 Express 3-5 day

US Shipping - Over 15 units:
BTC0.024 Priority 2-3 day
BTC0.098 Express 1 day
International Shipping - Over 15 units:
BTC0.131 Priority 6-10 day
BTC0.174 Express 3-5 day

Payments:
Send BTC payment to the the address below.
PM me with;
Your transaction ID, order quantity, shipping method, and shipping address.
Reply to this thread with your transaction ID and quantity. If you want a private order please PM me and state to keep your order private.
 
Payment Address:
1KbT4MkxVDZDQCwMA9kpqCHS9jnEU9MKaM

Please only send payment from addresses you can receive and sign a message from.

Who We Are:
BitcoinValet:
Has organized and manage multiple group buys for bitfury chips.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=528603.0
Will be handling organization of the group buy and shipping of the assembled miners.

bitgtr:
Has organized production of NF1 miners under the YellowJacket label.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423670.msg4828639#msg4828639
Runs the mining hardware website
http://www.bitgtr.com/
Will be organizing the assembly, and handling shipping to Australia.


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April 24, 2014, 11:19:40 AM
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Hi! Your offer seems to be good!

I do not need those devices but I am sure people who want to buy should consider your offer.

Good luck!
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April 24, 2014, 01:30:08 PM
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Seems a little pricey.  @5V, 1.2 amp pulls 6 watts.  11GH/s @ 6 watts looks to pull in about $20, being profitable for about 4 months.  Even with free electricity, it'll only pull in around $30 before the profit approaches zero.  Good luck with your endeavor, but I think these chips are quickly becoming obsolete.
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April 24, 2014, 02:46:59 PM
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expensive.

Bitmaintech 180gh = 0.63 BTC

Yours 180gh/11gh = 16 units I would have to buy to be close to 180gh.

16 * 0.22 btc each = 3.52 BTC = 176gh


It is less power. only 96 watts for all 16 devices.

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April 24, 2014, 06:27:40 PM
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You don't buy these for financial ROI, people. Anybody thinking they would ROI must be thinking of selling them on, themselves.


But as StickMiners go, the NF6 is looking to be pretty sweet - and the price point set in this group buy is pretty good, too.  At $114.73/single 11Ghash/s unit, that's about $10.43/Ghash.  That makes it cheaper than the AntMiner U1 at $11.22/Ghash and only mildly more expensive than the AntMiner U2; and you'd need 5-6 of those to get the same hash rate.  The NF6 makes a nice tidy package for anybody wanting to mine for fun, play with the electronics, etc.

If you want ROI, you really need to be looking at the big machines, along with the upfront investment as well as power, housing and cooling needs, etc.

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April 24, 2014, 06:43:06 PM
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How big are these things approx? 1.5x an antminer U2?

Price looks nice for something new, price will probably drop fast after it has been out for a few weeks.
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April 24, 2014, 07:25:21 PM
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How big are these things approx? 1.5x an antminer U2?

Price looks nice for something new, price will probably drop fast after it has been out for a few weeks.
same, size?
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April 24, 2014, 07:35:19 PM
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Im waiting to hear back from bitgr regarding the exact sizes as he has all the design files. I know these are pretty close in size to the NF2 which measure about (11cm x 4cm x 1.2cm). These are going to be individually packaged in plastic cases similar to the Antminer USB sticks, so the packaged dimensions will be a bit larger than the product dimensions.

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April 24, 2014, 08:25:36 PM
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nice gear but it needed to be ready for sale in Feb not May.

All the fury sticks were nice and all of them came out too slow..

 A shame as I like every one of them.

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April 24, 2014, 08:28:02 PM
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Dimensions are 40mm*65mm. With heat sinks attached they should be around 11mm thick, but definitely no more than 13mm.
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April 24, 2014, 11:23:58 PM
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You don't buy these for financial ROI, people. Anybody thinking they would ROI must be thinking of selling them on, themselves.


But as StickMiners go, the NF6 is looking to be pretty sweet - and the price point set in this group buy is pretty good, too.  At $114.73/single 11Ghash/s unit, that's about $10.43/Ghash.  That makes it cheaper than the AntMiner U1 at $11.22/Ghash and only mildly more expensive than the AntMiner U2; and you'd need 5-6 of those to get the same hash rate.  The NF6 makes a nice tidy package for anybody wanting to mine for fun, play with the electronics, etc.

If you want ROI, you really need to be looking at the big machines, along with the upfront investment as well as power, housing and cooling needs, etc.

Honestly, right now even the big machines are looking like they'll be a big gamble.  Sad  People are hip to the game; new stuff is used in datacenters to mine, not sold off, and little guys like me have no real way to get in without a contract with a direct connection to a chip manufacturer.  I'm planning out a big solar array that may make it profitable to mine, but even with free electricity a lot of the new stuff coming out won't make back their initial cost before their mining profits approach 0.
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April 24, 2014, 11:46:17 PM
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Honestly, right now even the big machines are looking like they'll be a big gamble.  Sad
Yeah, which just make the StickMiners more attractive, to me - at least you know it won't ROI and you don't have to sit there eyeing rates and charts every day Smiley

Though it's true what philipma1957 said - had the NF6 been available back in February, it actually should have yielded a net profit - ah, memories of Block Erupters and people building rigs with dozens of them Smiley

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April 26, 2014, 12:19:32 AM
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Honestly, right now even the big machines are looking like they'll be a big gamble.  Sad
Yeah, which just make the StickMiners more attractive, to me - at least you know it won't ROI and you don't have to sit there eyeing rates and charts every day Smiley

Though it's true what philipma1957 said - had the NF6 been available back in February, it actually should have yielded a net profit - ah, memories of Block Erupters and people building rigs with dozens of them Smiley


I took a beating on all my fury sticks.  the antminer u1 crushed them with price. 

even though the fury sticks are better for the most part they are 2x the price of the ant sticks.   even these are far too costly due to the delivery time.

But i wish I had some.  right now I kind of stopped selling any sticks to anyone..

 I have about 12 fury sticks and fury II sticks.  2 ant u-2s an 1 red fury.  I 'll dump them on ebay next week. 

shame of these sticks were they always came too slow to even be able to sell on ebay.

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April 27, 2014, 05:55:13 AM
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Prices have been reduced. And order over 50 units is now close to the actual production price in the true spirit of a group buy. The end date and everything else remains the same.

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The group buy is still open. It should be closing tomorrow but may possibly be extended by a few days.

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While I think this looks very interesting, there is one thing I can't reconcile. I've see the two-chip
NanoFury units, and as I recall, the expected power draw is about 1 Amp. This design has 3x the
number of ASIC's and only a 20% increase in power draw? How can that be?
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While I think this looks very interesting, there is one thing I can't reconcile. I've see the two-chip
NanoFury units, and as I recall, the expected power draw is about 1 Amp. This design has 3x the
number of ASIC's and only a 20% increase in power draw? How can that be?

Chips are underclocked to achieve the 11 gh/s.  They have to be because there is not enough juice in a USB to overclock more than 2 bitfury chips.
That's why you need 6 of them to get to 11 Gh/s.  When 2 overclocked can do 5 Gh/s.
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May 02, 2014, 03:51:25 PM
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Also, keep in mind that the NF6 should be using Rev2 BitFury chips, whereas the NF2 (and most other small BitFury miners) used the Rev1.  Rev2 is both faster and requires less power, if I recall that correctly.  If the NF2 further does not use the 'string' design, while the NF6 does, that's some further relative savings.

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Also, keep in mind that the NF6 should be using Rev2 BitFury chips, whereas the NF2 (and most other small BitFury miners) used the Rev1.  Rev2 is both faster and requires less power, if I recall that correctly.  If the NF2 further does not use the 'string' design, while the NF6 does, that's some further relative savings.
What is the string design?


Other thoughts:
Although 6 chips is really cool, I don't think it will be very succesfull.
Why? Because the target group of usb miners are the starters/noobs.
Startes don't like to spend a lot to get a hang of mining, then 6 chips are too expensive.

NF1 just hits the spot for noobs because it is cheap, an other option would be to target the pro's.
The habanero project already did this I think, but there is always room for improvement.
I would stick to the NF1 and improve upon the design if possible. Or go big and ditch the usb designs.
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May 02, 2014, 09:12:54 PM
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Very simplified, and based only on my understanding of others' posts - in a string design the BitFury chips are effectively put in series where it concerns power and I/O, meaning you don't have to drop the supplied voltage as much, and require less control circuitry, than if you tried to put them in parallel.
See also this hackery: "How to chain NF2s together and access them by one USB interface?"

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Very simplified, and based only on my understanding of others' posts - in a string design the BitFury chips are effectively put in series where it concerns power and I/O, meaning you don't have to drop the supplied voltage as much, and require less control circuitry, than if you tried to put them in parallel.
See also this hackery: "How to chain NF2s together and access them by one USB interface?"
Aight, thanks.

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May 05, 2014, 04:56:16 AM
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Someone was selling nanofury complete DIY - ( Board - components - stencil ).. now I cant find the damn post I thought it was Op ?

Looking to try one just for a hobby project and to get my son into electronics


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May 05, 2014, 05:25:52 AM
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Someone was selling nanofury complete DIY - ( Board - components - stencil ).. now I cant find the damn post I thought it was Op ?
You might be thinking of this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321287.msg5881934#msg5881934

Note that this does not include the BitFury chip.

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Someone was selling nanofury complete DIY - ( Board - components - stencil ).. now I cant find the damn post I thought it was Op ?
You might be thinking of this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321287.msg5881934#msg5881934

Note that this does not include the BitFury chip.

that's it thanks!!


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May 07, 2014, 04:44:41 AM
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By just experimenting with various heatsinks I got this (still using the somewhat crappy USB hub that provides 4.5V) :

 bfgminer version 3.99.0 - Started: [2014-05-06 11:00:54] - [  0 days 10:37:23]
 Manage devices Pool management Settings Display options
 Pool 3: ...ning.eligius.st  Diff:16  +Strtm  LU:[21:38:13]  User:
 Block: ...822374cf #299497  Diff:8G (57.27P)  Started: [21:38:11]
 ST:14  F:1  NB:76  AS:0  BW:[189/ 59 B/s]  E:51.06  I:69.78uBTC/hr  BS:236k
 2/12         | 27.79/27.97/26.86Gh/s | A:14431 R:99+24(.87%) HW:6900/2.8%
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 NFY 0:       | 14.12/14.07/13.42Gh/s | A: 7303 R:48+19(.95%) HW:4192/3.4%
 NFY 1:       | 13.95/13.91/13.45Gh/s | A: 7128 R:51+ 5(.79%) HW:2711/2.2%
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 [2014-05-06 21:35:59] Accepted 02982cf1 NFY 1d pool 3 Diff 98/16
 [2014-05-06 21:36:01] Accepted 025e31f8 NFY 1f pool 3 Diff 108/16
 [2014-05-06 21:36:02] Accepted 0bd238a4 NFY 0e pool 3 Diff 21/16
 [2014-05-06 21:36:05] Accepted 0b99dce7 NFY 0d pool 3 Diff 22/16
 [2014-05-06 21:36:17] Accepted 03c14c2a NFY 0c pool 3 Diff 68/16
 [2014-05-06 21:36:20] Stratum from pool 3 detected new block
 [2014-05-06 21:36:32] Accepted 05e5e6a7 NFY 1d pool 3 Diff 43/16
 [2014-05-06 21:36:32] Accepted 08cb7ad1 NFY 0c pool 3 Diff 29/16
 [2014-05-06 21:36:36] Accepted 0d2ca135 NFY 1a pool 3 Diff 19/16
 [2014-05-06 21:36:40] Accepted 04d7e01f NFY 0f pool 3 Diff 52/16
 [2014-05-06 21:36:44] Accepted 0b4b88cf NFY 0f pool 3 Diff 22/16
 [2014-05-06 21:36:48] Accepted 0010dc97 NFY 1c pool 3 Diff 3.89k/16
 [2014-05-06 21:36:53] Accepted 05f40e3a NFY 1a pool 3 Diff 43/16
 [2014-05-06 21:36:53] Accepted 0b3e96ee NFY 0c pool 3 Diff 22/16


This is with Gen2 chips. Gen1 seem to max at around 10-11GH (with the same setup).

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May 07, 2014, 10:28:18 AM
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Shiny!  Can probably push out a little bit more with a better hub - on the other hand, you'd need active cooling? Smiley

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