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September 08, 2014, 08:30:36 AM
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At this point the attack has been handled with neither a persistent fork nor a roll-back.  Well done.


What are the chances for a recurrent attack?
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September 08, 2014, 08:44:10 AM
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At this point the attack has been handled with neither a persistent fork nor a roll-back.  Well done.


What are the chances for a recurrent attack?

New accounts have warned quite much about it. The Monero devs do their best to prevent attacks, and C_Z is helping also. The community has also shown that even a technically successful attack (fork did happen) does not cause the loss of trust (price trend did not change).

In the long term, we are open to pursue a diplomatic solution to this conflict and I can be a diplomatic middleman if so desired.

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September 08, 2014, 08:45:43 AM
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I'm really impressed by the DEVS response to the attack. I hope the price dipps so I can buy back in. Smiley

Have you sold all your XMR holdings in the wake of the attack? Wink
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September 08, 2014, 08:51:44 AM
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I'm really impressed by the DEVS response to the attack. I hope the price dipps so I can buy back in. Smiley

Have you sold all your XMR holdings in the wake of the attack? Wink

There's never been so much bid support near the price. Imagine: in the range of 0...-10% of the current price, and in one exchange alone, there is BTC388 waiting for the seller of 108,000 XMR (3.3% of all XMR). Now is the time to dump if anyone likes, next week the price will be quite much higher if no one dumps now Wink

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September 08, 2014, 09:01:50 AM
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At this point the attack has been handled with neither a persistent fork nor a roll-back.  Well done.


What are the chances for a recurrent attack?

Nobody can answer that in general. There is no chance of another attack using the same mechanism but there may be different ones. We do our best to prevent and prepare to respond. Efforts continue for both.
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September 08, 2014, 09:03:58 AM
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At this point the attack has been handled with neither a persistent fork nor a roll-back.  Well done.


What are the chances for a recurrent attack?

New accounts have warned quite much about it. The Monero devs do their best to prevent attacks, and C_Z is helping also. The community has also shown that even a technically successful attack (fork did happen) does not cause the loss of trust (price trend did not change).

In the long term, we are open to pursue a diplomatic solution to this conflict and I can be a diplomatic middleman if so desired.

I wonder who was the first to provide the solution? CN devs seemed to come up with the solution somewhat faster. Although, if you think about it, it doesn't really matter who was the first. All I'm worried about is what if the next attack will be more sophisticated than the previous. That blockchain split was pretty scary I must say. Turns out Monero has some crafty rivals.  
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September 08, 2014, 09:10:00 AM
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At this point the attack has been handled with neither a persistent fork nor a roll-back.  Well done.


What are the chances for a recurrent attack?

New accounts have warned quite much about it. The Monero devs do their best to prevent attacks, and C_Z is helping also. The community has also shown that even a technically successful attack (fork did happen) does not cause the loss of trust (price trend did not change).

In the long term, we are open to pursue a diplomatic solution to this conflict and I can be a diplomatic middleman if so desired.

I wonder who was the first to provide the solution? CN devs seemed to come up with the solution somewhat faster. Although, if you think about it, it doesn't really matter who was the first. All I'm worried about is what if the next attack will be more sophisticated than the previous. That blockchain split was pretty scary I must say. Turns out Monero has some crafty rivals.  

I already said that Monero devs defend the coin to the best of their ability, but if there is something to negotiate about, I am all ears.

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September 08, 2014, 09:42:37 AM
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Hi,I found after my pool's XMR wallet&daemon  upgrade to 0.8.8.3,the pool's payments module can not  work as well as before:

while pool payout reward XMR to miners,will always get a failure with a message:"Transaction was rejected by daemon" or "not enough outputs to mix".

Dev,can you give me some helps?
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September 08, 2014, 09:46:21 AM
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I'm really impressed by the DEVS response to the attack. I hope the price dipps so I can buy back in. Smiley

Have you sold all your XMR holdings in the wake of the attack? Wink

There's never been so much bid support near the price. Imagine: in the range of 0...-10% of the current price, and in one exchange alone, there is BTC388 waiting for the seller of 108,000 XMR (3.3% of all XMR). Now is the time to dump if anyone likes, next week the price will be quite much higher if no one dumps now Wink

An experienced trader will know that is a negative drag on price. If it gets removed, then there is a positive effect.
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September 08, 2014, 09:57:03 AM
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At this point the attack has been handled with neither a persistent fork nor a roll-back.  Well done.


What are the chances for a recurrent attack?

New accounts have warned quite much about it. The Monero devs do their best to prevent attacks, and C_Z is helping also. The community has also shown that even a technically successful attack (fork did happen) does not cause the loss of trust (price trend did not change).

In the long term, we are open to pursue a diplomatic solution to this conflict and I can be a diplomatic middleman if so desired.

I wonder who was the first to provide the solution? CN devs seemed to come up with the solution somewhat faster. Although, if you think about it, it doesn't really matter who was the first. All I'm worried about is what if the next attack will be more sophisticated than the previous. That blockchain split was pretty scary I must say. Turns out Monero has some crafty rivals.  

I already said that Monero devs defend the coin to the best of their ability, but if there is something to negotiate about, I am all ears.
CN devs provided kind of a solution just after they saw the Monero devs already had one. As a matter of fact Monero devs were first, but if CN devs were first I doubt they were going to get any credibility because of it - their credibility in the cryptocurrency world is lost and it's lost most probably forever.

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September 08, 2014, 10:01:26 AM
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I'm really impressed by the DEVS response to the attack. I hope the price dipps so I can buy back in. Smiley

Have you sold all your XMR holdings in the wake of the attack? Wink

There's never been so much bid support near the price. Imagine: in the range of 0...-10% of the current price, and in one exchange alone, there is BTC388 waiting for the seller of 108,000 XMR (3.3% of all XMR). Now is the time to dump if anyone likes, next week the price will be quite much higher if no one dumps now Wink

An experienced trader will know that is a negative drag on price. If it gets removed, then there is a positive effect.

Especially if it gets removed via unleashing it to the almost nonexisting sell side  Grin

(In reality if "ex traders know" something, it follows that "more exp traders know that exp traders know" etc. and in the end it does not matter, I have much data on XMR markets and the correlations are so small that not even worth publishing)

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September 08, 2014, 10:19:38 AM
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I wonder who was the first to provide the solution? CN devs seemed to come up with the solution somewhat faster. Although, if you think about it, it doesn't really matter who was the first. All I'm worried about is what if the next attack will be more sophisticated than the previous. That blockchain split was pretty scary I must say. Turns out Monero has some crafty rivals.  

Not really, we identified and patched it first: https://github.com/rfree2monero/bitmonero/commit/b417abfb7a297d09f1bbb6de29030f8de9952ac8

Thereafter the CN devs emailed a patch, but as there are edge-cases their patch doesn't cover (and we'd already almost finished a more robust patch) we decided not to implement their change.

Of course, if they (or any developer of any one of the CN coins) finds and patches a critical bug we will be eternally grateful for their efforts. Fixing exploitable code is all of our jobs, after all.

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September 08, 2014, 10:20:30 AM
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Hi,I found after my pool's XMR wallet&daemon  upgrade to 0.8.8.3,the pool's payments module can not  work as well as before:

while pool payout reward XMR to miners,will always get a failure with a message:"Transaction was rejected by daemon" or "not enough outputs to mix".

Dev,can you give me some helps?

Have you increased your tx fee to 0.1 XMR for payments?

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September 08, 2014, 10:28:48 AM
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Hi,I found after my pool's XMR wallet&daemon  upgrade to 0.8.8.3,the pool's payments module can not  work as well as before:

while pool payout reward XMR to miners,will always get a failure with a message:"Transaction was rejected by daemon" or "not enough outputs to mix".

Dev,can you give me some helps?

Have you increased your tx fee to 0.1 XMR for payments?
thanks a lot!
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September 08, 2014, 11:12:55 AM
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A few days ago I transfer from my wallet a few coin transactions on bittrex. The two transactions are not reached and I do not see them in blokcheyne, it is about 25 coins. Dear developers, help me find moent. transactions  24264b00e715d25e1dbc5a8e3d0f30fcdaf28165894976db6c58547bf1440a92   and 3bf10c4cbafba43dd091359a8959579ed9eb4a11f86310714b78f6d7cbc66797.


P.S. wallet i am already update, but i dont see any coins them and on bittrex.
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September 08, 2014, 11:29:03 AM
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A few days ago I transfer from my wallet a few coin transactions on bittrex. The two transactions are not reached and I do not see them in blokcheyne, it is about 25 coins. Dear developers, help me find moent. transactions  24264b00e715d25e1dbc5a8e3d0f30fcdaf28165894976db6c58547bf1440a92   and 3bf10c4cbafba43dd091359a8959579ed9eb4a11f86310714b78f6d7cbc66797.


P.S. wallet i am already update, but i dont see any coins them and on bittrex.

Try to delete your wallet.bin cache (backup wallet.bin.keys before) and then run simplewallet --wallet-file wallet.bin to rescan blockchain, your coins might come back to your wallet if you sent after fork issue. If not, contact support.
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September 08, 2014, 11:31:32 AM
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I'm really impressed by the DEVS response to the attack. I hope the price dipps so I can buy back in. Smiley

Have you sold all your XMR holdings in the wake of the attack? Wink

There's never been so much bid support near the price. Imagine: in the range of 0...-10% of the current price, and in one exchange alone, there is BTC388 waiting for the seller of 108,000 XMR (3.3% of all XMR). Now is the time to dump if anyone likes, next week the price will be quite much higher if no one dumps now Wink

I am not sure
the price can go down very quickly. I already have a lost on my investition, I am not going to dump right now
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September 08, 2014, 11:36:10 AM
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A few days ago I transfer from my wallet a few coin transactions on bittrex. The two transactions are not reached and I do not see them in blokcheyne, it is about 25 coins. Dear developers, help me find moent. transactions  24264b00e715d25e1dbc5a8e3d0f30fcdaf28165894976db6c58547bf1440a92   and 3bf10c4cbafba43dd091359a8959579ed9eb4a11f86310714b78f6d7cbc66797.


P.S. wallet i am already update, but i dont see any coins them and on bittrex.

Try to delete your wallet.bin cache (backup wallet.bin.keys before) and then run simplewallet --wallet-file wallet.bin to rescan blockchain, your coins might come back to your wallet if you sent after fork issue. If not, contact support.

thanks for explanation it works like a charm
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September 08, 2014, 11:58:52 AM
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Try to delete your wallet.bin cache (backup wallet.bin.keys before) and then run simplewallet --wallet-file wallet.bin to rescan blockchain, your coins might come back to your wallet if you sent after fork issue. If not, contact support.

VERY BIG THANKS!
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Hello to all!  Wink
The beginning of my almost successful  sync (traffic is more 500Mb ): http://pastebin.com/iE44yhmy
My joy was short-lived...Sync of bitmonerod have stopped at block height: 208402 for hours,without any responding.
The ending of my almost successful  sync: http://pastebin.com/XUiPtvfR
(I use the command SAVE but in the end i nonetheless exit without saving because i was afraid the red blocks! I just decided to resync later.)
Then I was able to run simplewallet:  http://pastebin.com/fEMZCVi0
But simplewallet just showed me: no_connection_to_daemon!
After this sync the inscription -  
"You are now synchronized with the network. You may now start simplewallet." no longer appears, because bitmonerod pretty quickly freezes &  even makes me push RESET 'cause RELOAD in WIN7 doesn't work properly! Unfortunate last attempt to sync of bitmonerod: http://pastebin.com/BKAEtYjW
I'm terrified even now do not know what to do...
Why does XMR wallet work pretty well before?
May be is better use blockchain.bin from OP...AGAIN?
But simplewallet just can't connect to daemon?
Anybody have some smart ideas about my endless horror?  Shocked
I hope for your help, Saviors...  Sad
  http://crypto-prices.com/XMR
  We have problems...
  & i have problem with XMR too!  Angry
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