[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[EFS]

i remember reading somewhere back in june around the mintpal pump that cryptsy thought there was some vulnerability with monero and CN coins. can't remember where i found this but it is perhaps buried within this thread

I remember that, too. But even Poloniex handled all problems, I suppose it's only about Cryptsy's lack of interest to CN coins. Not that they can't deal with vulnerabilities. Anyway, better late than never.

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[dEBRUYNE]

Voting list here: https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes/

[robinwilliams]

i hate cryptsy so much.

[Quanttek]

Will somebody clarify the mining exploit found. What % what miners disadvantaged and what pools were involved?

Good questions. You will have to ask the pools, as they are independent of the Monero project and I don't know. I just happened to overhear on #monero-pools.

There was a double share exploit. You could essentially send the same share, without the pool noticing it, which could boost your hashrate around 15% up (this exploit was used with the private miners from pools like monero.rs)

How it works/worked:
The pool normally detects if you send the same share, so you had to alter it. A share is 8 chars long (64bit) and based on this the share gets tested, if it is a legit share, but when checking for duplicate shares this doesn't get considered, so I could submit a share 123456789, which is different, but still legit, when 12345678 legit is. This got fixed, by adding this as condition to the dupshare test

[EFS]

Monero has almost 1000 votes on https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes/ ! 

It's 1059 now. I voted when it had only 3 votes. Didn't surprise me though.

[samaricanin]

To win should still about 20,000 votes   

[David Latapie]

quick question about merged mining:

If i mine monero and merge mine with fcn or mcn, am i losing out on potential monero?

Thanks  

As i understand for merged mining there are not so optimized miners as are for mining Monero. What you get beside Monero is worth so little, that cant cover that difference.

So i would be better off just mining monero?

I have 8 cores and 4 nvidea 750 ti's, would my best bet be to run 3 cores on monero and run the 4 cards on darkcoin? or can i get away with adding more cores without taking away from the gpu processing??

This whole conversation would be better off either on the Moderated Monero General Discussion Thread or better yet on the Monero Mining (unmoderated) thread.

[David Latapie]

I have put him and this whole history on the ignore, there is no point in waste time on that anymore.

Moderated Monero General Discussion Thread

The same as here, but without the trolls.
This is a new thread, moderated with the monero-extended account so that there will always be one or more moderators here.

If you wish to apply for moderatorship, PM me. Round-the-clock moderation is always welcome.

We had some hiccups with moderation at the beginning but it should revert back to normal. Give it a try. I personally will privilege posting on the moderated thread instead of here.

I enjoy your posts so I'll give the moderated thread one more try. but If I see one more of my posts deleted that is it. Just because you don't like a post you can't delete it if it's not a troll or fud.

Just for information: I am not the moderator of the moderator thread (I don't have time for this anymore). Anon136 is and we are presently and publicly discussing the exact rules of moderation.

Now, a summary of what is being discussed on the moderated thread (to encourage you to post there and not here):

- How to help with translation, in any language: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/monero-client-net/
- The price obsession
- An anti-Monero Twitter campaign

[dEBRUYNE]

Monero has almost 1000 votes on https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes/ ! 

It's 1059 now. I voted when it had only 3 votes. Didn't surprise me though.

2600 and counting now. These are not even paid votes since there is not yet an adress published.

[EFS]

2600 and counting now. These are not even paid votes since there is not yet an adress published.

Yeah but you can buy Cryptsy Points with BTC and vote with them. Most of them are still paid votes.

[dEBRUYNE]

2600 and counting now. These are not even paid votes since there is not yet an adress published.

Yeah but you can buy Cryptsy Points with BTC and vote with them. Most of them are still paid votes.

Didn't knew that! But this is happening with most coins anyway.

[TrexDev]

hope soon monero win cryptsy vote and will hit exchanger list

[Febo]

over 4200 votes and grows fast.

[pavimus]

Spent all my cryptsypoints for voting. Now xmr has more than 4300 votes

[dEBRUYNE]

Over 6k now 

[Hilux74]

I don't understand why people support paid voting for an exchange to list a currency, especially when that currency is already listed on another fine exchange.  These paid votes are worse than any government tax as it serves no legitimate function, and nothing is done with that money except line the recipients pocket.  it is just a bribe.

I like Poloniex...I could give 2 shits if XMR gets traded on Cryptsy.

[NewLiberty]

I don't understand why people support paid voting for an exchange to list a currency, especially when that currency is already listed on another fine exchange.  These paid votes are worse than any government tax as it serves no legitimate function, and nothing is done with that money except line the recipients pocket.  it is just a bribe.

I like Poloniex...I could give 2 shits if XMR gets traded on Cryptsy.

I'm with you.  (Not much caring whether its on Cryptsy or not.)  It decentralizes only a little.
Probably folks do paid votes as just an individual decision.  It makes sense for the exchange, to cover the setup costs.  I may also make sense to folks that like to stick with one exchange and already use it.  If their time is worth a little money and they figure that they will save some time by not switching back and forth.

[dEBRUYNE]

I don't understand why people support paid voting for an exchange to list a currency, especially when that currency is already listed on another fine exchange.  These paid votes are worse than any government tax as it serves no legitimate function, and nothing is done with that money except line the recipients pocket.  it is just a bribe.

I like Poloniex...I could give 2 shits if XMR gets traded on Cryptsy.

Don't forget that Cryptsy has a large userbase which would increase adoption. I agree that poloniex is currently the best option and a very fine exchange. But there will also be people that don't like to switch (like NewLiberty stated above here) and would like to trade monero on their "home" exchange.

[smooth]

I don't understand why people support paid voting for an exchange to list a currency, especially when that currency is already listed on another fine exchange.  These paid votes are worse than any government tax as it serves no legitimate function, and nothing is done with that money except line the recipients pocket.  it is just a bribe.

I like Poloniex...I could give 2 shits if XMR gets traded on Cryptsy.

I'm with you.  (Not much caring whether its on Cryptsy or not.)  It decentralizes only a little.

Agree with both of the above comments and more so this: It isn't just that it is on one other fine exchange, it is on many other exchanges. The first exchange is worth a lot, the second is worth a lot as decentralization and competition. After that, it doesn't really matter.

By adding the coin to a vote list the exchange is signaling they see the coin as important enough to include. It is only a small step from there to the exchange viewing the coin as too important to not include. Paid votes are a complete rip off. Don't fall for it.

Just step back and wait and they will add it before long anyway.

[OrientA]

I wonder if we should send the BTC to dev instead of voting in cryptsy.