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February 24, 2015, 04:29:51 AM
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And besides, now that the official Missives are BACK! Do we really need two things on a monday? So I'll gradually shift the Digest / Week in Review to a different broadcast day of the week. What do people want?

You should plan it so you'll have time to get it done, but the earlier the better because it is less delay to the people who have trouble with spoken English and rely on written form or a translation.



Gotcha. I was thinking about the whole spoken vs. written thing re: missives. I think one way to tackle it is to use github. Someone starts with the first 3-5 minutes (or whenever they crap out), then someone picks up, and eventually it all gets pieced together. And then translated. Etc.

https://github.com/Gingeropolous/MoneroMissiveTranscribe

of course I have no idea how to use github so there's that. For another night.

I started porting the mp3 through google voice but I need a cleaner method so I will try to cable it up tomorrow and see what craps out. Wink

I think the quality of the voice audio might be a bit too rough for quality transcribe. We bought mics to make it better. Also, knowing now that auto transcribe will happen, we'll keep the music out of the voice. Duh. What was I thinking?

LOL, your doing a great job. Smiley

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Mac bitmonerod and simplewallet located at: https://downloads.getmonero.org/mac64

return "Illegal instruction: 4" on Mac OS X 10.9.5

If I clone repository from https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero and build myself everything is fine.
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February 24, 2015, 09:36:38 AM
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Mac bitmonerod and simplewallet located at: https://downloads.getmonero.org/mac64

return "Illegal instruction: 4" on Mac OS X 10.9.5

If I clone repository from https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero and build myself everything is fine.


Thanks, we'll work on better binary compatibility once we have Gitian working (reproducible builds).

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February 24, 2015, 10:13:55 AM
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***THANK TO CORE DEVS, MONERO MISSIVES ARE BACK***

https://forum.monero.cc/1/news-and-announcements/161/monday-monero-missives-23-february-23rd-2015

I suppose we should use https://forum.monero.cc to discuss missives instead of bitcointalk. Correct me if I am wrong.
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February 24, 2015, 10:24:30 AM
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After being gone since last summer (one of the first miners I believe), I recently ran across this thread again and looked into it a little more. I am quite excited to see what kinds of developments you are planning, specifically regarding the MoneroAssets and MoneroTrade "next level research" items.

How many devs are working on this project currently, and are they fulltime? What is the slated release date for some of these new features that are being worked on? I was recently heavily supporting Syscoin, but due to a number of missed deadlines and lack of marketing, I'm taking a step back from them for the time being. Monero seems to have many of the things on the roadmap that caused me to join Syscoin in the first place, so I am thinking that this active community and dev environment may be a better place to put my energy.

Are there any items on the TODO list that need help? I'm a web developer and I'd be happy to help out if I could further a real crypto project in any way.


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February 24, 2015, 11:51:34 AM
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After being gone since last summer (one of the first miners I believe), I recently ran across this thread again and looked into it a little more. I am quite excited to see what kinds of developments you are planning, specifically regarding the MoneroAssets and MoneroTrade "next level research" items.

How many devs are working on this project currently, and are they fulltime? What is the slated release date for some of these new features that are being worked on? I was recently heavily supporting Syscoin, but due to a number of missed deadlines and lack of marketing, I'm taking a step back from them for the time being. Monero seems to have many of the things on the roadmap that caused me to join Syscoin in the first place, so I am thinking that this active community and dev environment may be a better place to put my energy.

Are there any items on the TODO list that need help? I'm a web developer and I'd be happy to help out if I could further a real crypto project in any way.


Seven core team members, 3 academic cryptographers and mathematicians, half-a-dozen deeply involved coders - consider 15. No one is fulltime, most are not even paid at all. No stated release date, by design, although we hinted during the http://dogecoindark.net/radio/ interview at "before the end of 2015" for the GUI wallet (some other things will be released in between, and not only the DB).

Marketing is done slowly because marketing a command line utility with few B2B solutions at present is an exercice in futility. Main marketing for now is word-of-mouth, which is the most realiable way to avoid disappointment (one only makes one first impression).

Also, we are trying to transition to http://forum.monero.cc for this reason:

Quote from: Fluffypony
Bitcointalk is not a good environment if we want serious discussion about Monero. That much should be obvious. At some point we have to start cutting the apron strings and disconnecting from Bitcoin, especially since we share few common goals and no common code. It would be unfair of us to force newcomers interested in Monero to dig through thousands of scamcoin, shill, and troll posts on bitcointalk to find the occasional gem of information.

Additionally, you cannot possibly convince me that people needing help in running and using Monero should all gather in a single thread on a Bitcoin forum?? Nah, we've done our time here, there's no value in maintaining all the Monero threads on Bitcointalk. Anyone here who needs to know about Monero already does know about Monero;)

The 4.5 (!) hours-long interview for Dogecoindark Radio was great but also extenuating. A summary will be available as soon as Rick (from Dogecoindark Radio) edits it (this week-end). Also, once the organisator of CoinFest 2015 have released the video of our talk there, we will publish some additional promotional material.

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February 24, 2015, 12:14:53 PM
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After being gone since last summer (one of the first miners I believe), I recently ran across this thread again and looked into it a little more. I am quite excited to see what kinds of developments you are planning, specifically regarding the MoneroAssets and MoneroTrade "next level research" items.

How many devs are working on this project currently, and are they fulltime? What is the slated release date for some of these new features that are being worked on? I was recently heavily supporting Syscoin, but due to a number of missed deadlines and lack of marketing, I'm taking a step back from them for the time being. Monero seems to have many of the things on the roadmap that caused me to join Syscoin in the first place, so I am thinking that this active community and dev environment may be a better place to put my energy.

Are there any items on the TODO list that need help? I'm a web developer and I'd be happy to help out if I could further a real crypto project in any way.


Seven core team members, 3 academic cryptographers and mathematicians, half-a-dozen deeply involved coders - consider 15. No one is fulltime, most are not even paid at al. No stated release date, by design, although we hinted during the http://dogecoindark.net/radio/ interview at "before the end of 2015" for the GUI wallet (some other things will be released in between, and not only the DB).

Marketing is done slowly because marketing a command line utility with few B2B solutions at present is an exercice in futility. Main marketing for now is word-of-mouth, which is the most realiable way to avoid disappointment (one only makes one first impression).

Also, we are trying to transition to http://forum.monero.cc for this reason:

Quote from: Fluffypony
Bitcointalk is not a good environment if we want serious discussion about Monero. That much should be obvious. At some point we have to start cutting the apron strings and disconnecting from Bitcoin, especially since we share few common goals and no common code. It would be unfair of us to force newcomers interested in Monero to dig through thousands of scamcoin, shill, and troll posts on bitcointalk to find the occasional gem of information.

Additionally, you cannot possibly convince me that people needing help in running and using Monero should all gather in a single thread on a Bitcoin forum?? Nah, we've done our time here, there's no value in maintaining all the Monero threads on Bitcointalk. Anyone here who needs to know about Monero already does know about Monero;)

The 4.5 (!) hours-long interview for Dogecoindark Radio was great but also extenuating. A summary will be available as soon as Rick (from Dogecoindark Radio) edits it (this week-end). Also, once the organisator of CoinFest 2015 have released the video of our talk there, we will publish some additional promotional material.

Thank you for the quick reply. The fact that someone who is heavily involved in the project replied to this post in just an hour or so speaks volumes about the level of engagement of the community. Kudos.

15 people involved heavily? that sounds amazing. I am impressed by the level of involvement in this coin. Consider my purchase long-term.

I will check out http://forum.monero.cc and start posting there as well.

I heard about the monero dev team on dogecoindark radio but I was asleep at the time (EU). A summary or at least archives of the show would be great!


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February 24, 2015, 12:28:32 PM
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A little question about memory footprint on 0.8.8.6. Is it okay? Or should I move my wallet to linux machine?



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February 24, 2015, 12:34:08 PM
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After being gone since last summer (one of the first miners I believe), I recently ran across this thread again and looked into it a little more. I am quite excited to see what kinds of developments you are planning, specifically regarding the MoneroAssets and MoneroTrade "next level research" items.

How many devs are working on this project currently, and are they fulltime? What is the slated release date for some of these new features that are being worked on? I was recently heavily supporting Syscoin, but due to a number of missed deadlines and lack of marketing, I'm taking a step back from them for the time being. Monero seems to have many of the things on the roadmap that caused me to join Syscoin in the first place, so I am thinking that this active community and dev environment may be a better place to put my energy.

Are there any items on the TODO list that need help? I'm a web developer and I'd be happy to help out if I could further a real crypto project in any way.


Seven core team members, 3 academic cryptographers and mathematicians, half-a-dozen deeply involved coders - consider 15. No one is fulltime, most are not even paid at al. No stated release date, by design, although we hinted during the http://dogecoindark.net/radio/ interview at "before the end of 2015" for the GUI wallet (some other things will be released in between, and not only the DB).

Marketing is done slowly because marketing a command line utility with few B2B solutions at present is an exercice in futility. Main marketing for now is word-of-mouth, which is the most realiable way to avoid disappointment (one only makes one first impression).

Also, we are trying to transition to http://forum.monero.cc for this reason:

Quote from: Fluffypony
Bitcointalk is not a good environment if we want serious discussion about Monero. That much should be obvious. At some point we have to start cutting the apron strings and disconnecting from Bitcoin, especially since we share few common goals and no common code. It would be unfair of us to force newcomers interested in Monero to dig through thousands of scamcoin, shill, and troll posts on bitcointalk to find the occasional gem of information.

Additionally, you cannot possibly convince me that people needing help in running and using Monero should all gather in a single thread on a Bitcoin forum?? Nah, we've done our time here, there's no value in maintaining all the Monero threads on Bitcointalk. Anyone here who needs to know about Monero already does know about Monero;)

The 4.5 (!) hours-long interview for Dogecoindark Radio was great but also extenuating. A summary will be available as soon as Rick (from Dogecoindark Radio) edits it (this week-end). Also, once the organisator of CoinFest 2015 have released the video of our talk there, we will publish some additional promotional material.

Thank you for the quick reply. The fact that someone who is heavily involved in the project replied to this post in just an hour or so speaks volumes about the level of engagement of the community. Kudos.

15 people involved heavily? that sounds amazing. I am impressed by the level of involvement in this coin. Consider my purchase long-term.

I will check out http://forum.monero.cc and start posting there as well.

I heard about the monero dev team on dogecoindark radio but I was asleep at the time (EU). A summary or at least archives of the show would be great!



I would also like to add this to David Latapie's comment -> https://getmonero.org/knowledge-base/people. Basicly a sum up of the people involved in Monero.

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February 24, 2015, 12:36:16 PM
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A little question about memory footprint on 0.8.8.6. Is it okay? Or should I move my wallet to linux machine?
(snip)



Yes, that looks normal. Classic monero has a big memory footprint (the whole blockchain is in the memory!). There is development to move the blockchain into a database file, which is being heavily tested and developed right now. Indeed, the last leg of the database development is to make it work with windows.

In general though, yes, you should move it to linux due to security concerns, but that won't solve the memory problem AFAIK.

And if you move to linux, you can run the current beta of the database build, if you're adventurous and want to compile things.  

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February 24, 2015, 12:45:51 PM
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how transaction fee is calculated?? i have sended 49XMR, but my balance decreased by 50.5XMR  Huh 1.5% fee??
or how can i set fee manually in simplewallet?

Transaction fee is calculated per KB. Monero transactions are larger due to mixin ringsignatures, which is integral to blockchain privacy. If you want a low transaction fee coin with no privacy, this one aint for you.

sorry, didn't seen balance, only unlocked balance
all ok
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how transaction fee is calculated?? i have sended 49XMR, but my balance decreased by 50.5XMR  Huh 1.5% fee??
or how can i set fee manually in simplewallet?

Transaction fee is calculated per KB. Monero transactions are larger due to mixin ringsignatures, which is integral to blockchain privacy. If you want a low transaction fee coin with no privacy, this one aint for you.

sorry, didn't seen balance, only unlocked balance
all ok

Ah yes, that too!!

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February 24, 2015, 01:00:42 PM
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Any reason for the price increase today?
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February 24, 2015, 01:02:18 PM
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Any reason for the price increase today?

New missive, great site, great planning.
Also the missive podcast was finally written as text, so others could easier translate and read Smiley

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February 24, 2015, 03:02:08 PM
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Yes, that looks normal. Classic monero has a big memory footprint (the whole blockchain is in the memory!). There is development to move the blockchain into a database file, which is being heavily tested and developed right now. Indeed, the last leg of the database development is to make it work with windows.

In general though, yes, you should move it to linux due to security concerns, but that won't solve the memory problem AFAIK.

And if you move to linux, you can run the current beta of the database build, if you're adventurous and want to compile things.  
Thanks for the answer )) Getting started with compilation and testing on linux certainly takes time, the main concern is "am I having it". However, if someone could suggest a good distro including all required tools while remaining lightweight - that would be appreciated
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February 24, 2015, 03:12:00 PM
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Monero is starting to feel exciting again. Thanks devs!

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February 24, 2015, 03:17:47 PM
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A little question about memory footprint on 0.8.8.6. Is it okay? Or should I move my wallet to linux machine?

http://www.picshare.ru/uploads/150224/1v6Ts6X98F.jpg



Currently bitmonerod loads whole blockchain into RAM. Next stable version will have database-style blockchain to solve this problem, yet we don't know when.
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February 24, 2015, 03:42:27 PM
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Yes, that looks normal. Classic monero has a big memory footprint (the whole blockchain is in the memory!). There is development to move the blockchain into a database file, which is being heavily tested and developed right now. Indeed, the last leg of the database development is to make it work with windows.

In general though, yes, you should move it to linux due to security concerns, but that won't solve the memory problem AFAIK.

And if you move to linux, you can run the current beta of the database build, if you're adventurous and want to compile things.  
Thanks for the answer )) Getting started with compilation and testing on linux certainly takes time, the main concern is "am I having it". However, if someone could suggest a good distro including all required tools while remaining lightweight - that would be appreciated

I personally like Lubuntu, seems to run my bitmonero LMDB fine.

here I posted noob approved instructions for LMDB build. (warning - this is beta! use at your own risk. I've been using for months)
https://forum.monero.cc/5/support/142/useful-links-including-blockchain-downloads

alternative is mymonero.com , if you want the easiest wallet solution.

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February 24, 2015, 05:21:06 PM
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After being gone since last summer (one of the first miners I believe), I recently ran across this thread again and looked into it a little more. I am quite excited to see what kinds of developments you are planning, specifically regarding the MoneroAssets and MoneroTrade "next level research" items.

How many devs are working on this project currently, and are they fulltime? What is the slated release date for some of these new features that are being worked on? I was recently heavily supporting Syscoin, but due to a number of missed deadlines and lack of marketing, I'm taking a step back from them for the time being. Monero seems to have many of the things on the roadmap that caused me to join Syscoin in the first place, so I am thinking that this active community and dev environment may be a better place to put my energy.

None of us are full time, there's nowhere close to enough funding for that to happen just yet:)

In terms of slated release, we still have to first figure out how we're going to do coinbase-less sidechains, two-way pegging, and functionality advertising, before we can even begin to go down the rest of the roadmap. If I had to guess I'd hazard that something like MoneroID is at least a year away, maybe two, and something like MoneroTrade will be a year after that. There's a lot of commonality between those sidechains / daughter-chains, so I would imagine that once we have the whitepapers out with formal cryptographic proofs for all the functionality required (and have done one or two implementations) the rest will be much faster. So the research side of the roadmap is probably 3-4 years worth, including implementation.

Of course, we could do it much faster, but all we'd be pushing out the gate is something half-baked, exploitable, and dangerous. And this isn't us being perfectionists, we simply can't afford to gamble with amateur cryptography and ill-conceived architecture because we're playing with people's money and their livelihood. But trust me, when we get there we're going to have some pretty amazing stuff:)

Are there any items on the TODO list that need help? I'm a web developer and I'd be happy to help out if I could further a real crypto project in any way.

The bulk of the content outstanding on the website (eg. the About Monero page, user guides, dev guides, and so on) is open to being tackled. If you'd like to contribute then you can fork the repository: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site and submit changes via Pull Request. It's worth reading the Pages, Formats, and Rules section of the README for the project, and it's definitely a good idea to look through some of the existing static pages to get a feel for how things are done.

Edit: forgot to add that there is one critical outstanding item right now: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-site/issues/5

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February 24, 2015, 05:34:15 PM
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I just recently decided to jump on the Monero train. I went to the website and registered for the forums. Registration was successful but when I try to log in I recieve an error message that says "oops, your acct is not active"....what does that mean? And also I downloaded the wallet and decided to run a node. Im not sure though if Im doing it right. Is your wallet supposed to look like just command lines? It is so much different than say Megacoin or Vericoin wallet. My nodes still say they are syncing at 308 days behind, all in yellow.
 What sucks is you cannot highlight and copy/paste your wallet address from the command prompts in the wallet. Is this really the wallet or the command box that runs my wallet and I dont have it correct? Also I put in the command to start mining. Is this still feasable or am i wasting my time? It says "mining started with one threads, good luck!" and below that it says " miner thread started
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