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March 01, 2015, 02:51:11 AM
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Just read Amir's wiki, he sounds like a cool guy.

Now if only Satoshi would write something about Monero in esperanto!! Smiley

I just realized Satoshi has a full wiki page in esperanto: http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto
coincidence? I would like to think not Tongue

Amir Taaki of current Darkwallet development learnt esperanto.
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March 01, 2015, 02:53:45 AM
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Now if only Satoshi would write something about Monero in esperanto!! Smiley

I just realized Satoshi has a full wiki page in esperanto: http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto
coincidence? I would like to think not Tongue

Amir Taaki of current Darkwallet development learnt esperanto.

Knowing Amir political inclinations, dark wallet seems like a fairly poor project now that ring signatures are around.
 

Yeah but he's like 2010 bitcoin oldskool.  I don't think he'll start pumping any altcoins for a while if ever.  Although he has indirectly shown support for FairCoop.

You are probably right. Which is sad, because in an ideal world, supporting (or at least acknowledging) a privacy-wise infinitely superior technology should not be seen as "pumping".

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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March 01, 2015, 02:58:45 AM
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Its inferior but he must have a lot of time and energy sunk into darkwallet and the other advantage is that its Bitcoin and not an alt, much wider adoption.

Now if only Satoshi would write something about Monero in esperanto!! Smiley

I just realized Satoshi has a full wiki page in esperanto: http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto
coincidence? I would like to think not Tongue

Amir Taaki of current Darkwallet development learnt esperanto.

Knowing Amir political inclinations, dark wallet seems like a fairly poor project now that ring signatures are around.
 

Yeah but he's like 2010 bitcoin oldskool.  I don't think he'll start pumping any altcoins for a while if ever.  Although he has indirectly shown support for FairCoop.

You are probably right. Which is sad, because in an ideal world, supporting (or at least acknowledging) a privacy-wise infinitely superior technology should not be seen as "pumping".

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March 01, 2015, 03:02:46 AM
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Now if only Satoshi would write something about Monero in esperanto!! Smiley

I just realized Satoshi has a full wiki page in esperanto: http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto
coincidence? I would like to think not Tongue

Amir Taaki of current Darkwallet development learnt esperanto.

Knowing Amir political inclinations, dark wallet seems like a fairly poor project now that ring signatures are around.
  

Yeah but he's like 2010 bitcoin oldskool.  I don't think he'll start pumping any altcoins for a while if ever.  Although he has indirectly shown support for FairCoop.

You are probably right. Which is sad, because in an ideal world, supporting (or at least acknowledging) a privacy-wise infinitely superior technology should not be seen as "pumping".


I personally think he'd be a big fan of the Cryptonote technology and ring-signatures.  And all crypto-anarchism in general.  Although don't think he'd be so quick to put his name on any single project.  Even the support he shown for FairCoop was very distantly.  Like many very early bitcoin supporters from when it really was a grassroots movement.  Even much smaller than the Monero community today.  They still all mostly see Bitcoin as being the one true coin to rule them all.  Much more than most of the diehards who found Bitcoin post Litecoin creation.

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March 01, 2015, 08:30:34 AM
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I personally think he'd be a big fan of the Cryptonote technology and ring-signatures.  And all crypto-anarchism in general.  Although don't think he'd be so quick to put his name on any single project.  Even the support he shown for FairCoop was very distantly.  Like many very early bitcoin supporters from when it really was a grassroots movement.  Even much smaller than the Monero community today.  They still all mostly see Bitcoin as being the one true coin to rule them all.  Much more than most of the diehards who found Bitcoin post Litecoin creation.

Amir has been in #monero-dev before - when we were trying to decide on an embedded database for our initial blockchaindb implementation, and were leaning towards LMDB, him and I got chatting about it in another channel and took it back to -dev. He basically sold us on LMDB. Beyond that I gather that he has no particular interest in Monero at this point, although he's at least aware of it.

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March 01, 2015, 09:13:43 AM
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Let the raging debate begin: https://forum.getmonero.org/12/off-topic/186/is-this-logo-blue-and-black-or-white-and-gold

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March 01, 2015, 09:29:27 AM
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It's more periwinkle / brown.

PS. I really like the colour scheme on MyMonero.com. Those are great colours for a holistic theme.
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March 01, 2015, 10:07:25 AM
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Something i wanted to say

Have been an emotional supporter since day one. But the state of affairs in here are pressing me to second thoughts. I mean what exactly is happening here? Mew making their own shitty forum while core team forum is nothing to talk about. No clear idea which website belongs to whom and where should we go to find info. And the prehistoric site designs dont do much to engage anyone.

Where is the community, where are the ideas, what is happening actually?

Only one thing i know, the db is coming and it is coming . Sigh
Dont tell me it is in testing. Where are the repeated requests by the devs to test it

These are harsh but true words. We need to Organise. We need to streamline and stop playing games.

Here is what i want to happen -

Change the mew name to Monero Foundation, the foundation will have voting to select new members, irrespective of their holdings.

Only two groups. The Foundation and the Core Team

We need a new good looking website.
We need a new good looking forum. No scratch experiments. Who got the time for that. Time is of utmost value in these times of competition.

These will be the official sites. The foundation will have a separate site and can have a private forum. Dont need two forums.

The core team needs to clearly define a timeline of things to be developed. They need to stop wasting time and pick up one thing at a time and work collaboratively on it.

To the extent of my knowledge we need the db and then the gui. We should focus on these goals only

Then the question arises of funding - there is no other way but to invite funding. So the real question is why will people fund us. We need a service like mymonero which we can sell shares of. We need to brainstorm some ideas.

All in all a scam called darkcoin is ahead of monero just because they are organized, focused, swift

I took the oldie because I'd like to hear if you are satisfied now Smiley

If you want things accomplished, you can:
- Donate money to the centralized core team, and they will think and then do it (note: you have to donate money)
- Join MEW and do the things yourself in a decentralized way (note: you have to do things yourself)
- Buy XMR, because the uptrend has started and we are still in the very cheap accumulation zone (note: you need money to do it)


My vision is that we need perhaps one more spearhead, the MiG, to concentrate on the investment case and that alone. It is a MEW project because it originates from MEW members and concerns Monero.

DB and GUI are coming, but neither is in any way necessary, for the people who are non-techies, like I am. We have mymonero.

The core team has outlined what they will do next, and the MEW is not centralized, so cannot make such plans anyway.

If someone wants to buy shares of mymonero, just contact me.
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March 01, 2015, 12:19:03 PM
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If someone wants to buy shares of mymonero, just contact me.


Is there a prospectus?

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March 01, 2015, 12:22:08 PM
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If someone wants to buy shares of mymonero, just contact me.


Is there a prospectus?

Yeah, can we have some info?
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March 01, 2015, 12:56:12 PM
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Crazy thing with that dress.  Half my co workers saw it one way and half the other.

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March 01, 2015, 12:58:33 PM
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By the way, for those who have not see it Fluffy is making a reference to this:

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/science-one-agrees-color-dress/



It's more periwinkle / brown.

PS. I really like the colour scheme on MyMonero.com. Those are great colours for a holistic theme.
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March 01, 2015, 01:12:20 PM
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I didnt think mymonero was a revenue generating business.  How do they make money?



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March 01, 2015, 03:53:09 PM
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Crazy huh? Dress looked Gold and White to me.

That logo looks light Blue and Brown to me!

BTW that forum is a real pita, no-where to sign in in order to reply from that link and then cannot hit back button to get back to post. I don't care what anyone says. it's not user friendly at all.

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March 01, 2015, 04:00:26 PM
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Crazy huh? Dress looked Gold and White to me.

That logo looks light Blue and Brown to me!

BTW that forum is a real pita, no-where to sign in in order to reply from that link and then cannot hit back button to get back to post. I don't care what anyone says. it's not user friendly at all.

Good idea - we should add the reply link in for users that aren't logged in, and then take them to a login-or-register screen, I'll add it to the list.

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Crazy huh? Dress looked Gold and White to me.

That logo looks light Blue and Brown to me!

BTW that forum is a real pita, no-where to sign in in order to reply from that link and then cannot hit back button to get back to post. I don't care what anyone says. it's not user friendly at all.

Good idea - we should add the reply link in for users that aren't logged in, and then take them to a login-or-register screen, I'll add it to the list.

Thanks. Smiley

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March 01, 2015, 04:13:55 PM
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Anyone have a tl;dr for Adam Back's post on ring-signatures: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=972541.msg10619684#msg10619684

Edit: here's his tweet: https://twitter.com/adam3us/status/572009705876271104

Edit2: I should have asked for an ELI10 rather than a tl;dr.
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March 01, 2015, 04:21:51 PM
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He says he optimized their efficiency but he calls the more efficient ones linkable ring signatures.  Are our ring signatures linkable too?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=972541.msg10619684#msg10619684


Anyone have a tl;dr for Adam Back's post on ring-signatures: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=972541.msg10619684#msg10619684

Edit: here's his tweet: https://twitter.com/adam3us/status/572009705876271104
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March 01, 2015, 06:24:46 PM
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The install script install_monero.sh created by David to build monero was throwing errors in Ubuntu 14.04 (also it's not on the new website). I added some minor fixes, now worked for me (only in Ubuntu 14.04, not tried other versions). Posting source:
http://pastebin.com/53w8LfjY

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March 01, 2015, 09:00:51 PM
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I uploaded my presentation at Coinfest Estonia on the official forum: https://forum.getmonero.org/14/events/188/coinfest-estonia-2015. The video is not available yet.

Feel free to use is for advocacy (temporary direct link to the PDF)

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