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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4666978 times)
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January 19, 2015, 10:18:24 AM
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That means 1 Monero = 10^12 "picomoneros".

I guess that our friends under the imperial system strongly dislike picomoneros. Wink
(don't like it myself much, it's long and unwieldy)

So what are the other proposals?

It's easier to use the "-nero" suffix, so just piconeros. You can see this in action with Tippero, the tipping / gaming bot on Freenode, where the dice game gives you feedback in the appropriate unit -

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[11:44:05]  <@tippero>	moneromooo loses 640 millinero on roll #133. 0.7268251371569932 > 0.33
[11:44:13]  <@moneromooo> !dice 1.28 2
[11:44:13]  <@tippero> moneromooo loses 1.28 Monero on roll #134. 0.3441599474754184 > 0.33
[12:14:54]  <@moneromooo> !dice 1.998309411355 2
[12:14:54]  <@tippero> moneromooo wins 3.99661882271 Monero on roll #135! 0.1800830094143748 <= 0.33
[12:15:25]  <@moneromooo> !dice 0.001 0.7
[12:15:26]  <@tippero> moneromooo wins 700 micronero on roll #136! 0.3154929496813565 <= 0.5823529411764706

It was also discussed and fleshed out here: https://forum.monero.cc/6/ideas/33/names-for-the-various-amounts-of-monero?page=&noscroll=1#post-167

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January 19, 2015, 10:38:44 AM
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That means 1 Monero = 10^12 "picomoneros".

I guess that our friends under the imperial system strongly dislike picomoneros. Wink
(don't like it myself much, it's long and unwieldy)

So what are the other proposals?

It's easier to use the "-nero" suffix, so just piconeros. You can see this in action with Tippero, the tipping / gaming bot on Freenode, where the dice game gives you feedback in the appropriate unit -

Code:
[11:44:05]  <@tippero>	moneromooo loses 640 millinero on roll #133. 0.7268251371569932 > 0.33
[11:44:13]  <@moneromooo> !dice 1.28 2
[11:44:13]  <@tippero> moneromooo loses 1.28 Monero on roll #134. 0.3441599474754184 > 0.33
[12:14:54]  <@moneromooo> !dice 1.998309411355 2
[12:14:54]  <@tippero> moneromooo wins 3.99661882271 Monero on roll #135! 0.1800830094143748 <= 0.33
[12:15:25]  <@moneromooo> !dice 0.001 0.7
[12:15:26]  <@tippero> moneromooo wins 700 micronero on roll #136! 0.3154929496813565 <= 0.5823529411764706

It was also discussed and fleshed out here: https://forum.monero.cc/6/ideas/33/names-for-the-various-amounts-of-monero?page=&noscroll=1#post-167

Thanks. I quite like this! Millinero. Flows good. Smiley
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January 19, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
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Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality
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January 19, 2015, 04:32:04 PM
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Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

Probably the opposite. Moore's law in memory continues unabated. The growth in the blockchain is fairly slow and so far linear.

More to the point, today in January 2015 the 4-6 GB you need for the blockchain is increasingly less of a big deal. Less than it has ever been even over the short lifetime of Monero.

Nevertheless, the database test builds also work better than ever.
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January 19, 2015, 05:07:56 PM
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Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

Probably the opposite. Moore's law in memory continues unabated. The growth in the blockchain is fairly slow and so far linear.

More to the point, today in January 2015 the 4-6 GB you need for the blockchain is increasingly less of a big deal. Less than it has ever been even over the short lifetime of Monero.

Nevertheless, the database test builds also work better than ever.


^^^ yeop. I've had the DB build running for about a week. At least peek, it was using 600 mb in my 2 gig machine. Apparently its adaptive - i've seen it move between 300 and 600.

I'm speculating that the last hurdle is windows implementation - and if I didn't have this dang dayjob I'd be at home playing on my windows box helpin the devs Smiley

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January 19, 2015, 05:33:41 PM
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Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

Just to clarify - how much have you personally donated to cover the hundreds of man-hours that have been spent on the blockchainDB and lmdb implementation? Because hey, buddy, if you're not commensurately paying for it then you don't have permission to demand anything. At all. Ever.

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January 19, 2015, 09:30:34 PM
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Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

Just to clarify - how much have you personally donated to cover the hundreds of man-hours that have been spent on the blockchainDB and lmdb implementation? Because hey, buddy, if you're not commensurately paying for it then you don't have permission to demand anything. At all. Ever.

And there *IS* a practical way to donate, it is in CryptoKingdom the Game Smiley

Just tell to donate to Monero House, and every day a sum that you choose, no matter how small or big, is given to the developers!

My donation is 5 XMR/day  Smiley

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January 19, 2015, 09:31:44 PM
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I have to say I think Tippero is awesome.

This is the kind of thing that can really make a coin stand out in a crowded space.

Nice work.




+1,000

I'm having a ball with it (was gifted a couple XMR to play with).
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January 19, 2015, 09:32:52 PM
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Might be a bit of an ignorant question, but I can't seem to find this simple info anywhere (neither in OP nor on the rather broken monero website):

1) What is the smallest unit in monero? Is there an accepted name? Moneritos? Matoshis?

2) How much of these units make 1 monero?
Amount IS in the OP: 2^64-1

Smallest unit: piconero https://xmrmonero.com/node/88

This is the MEW (Monero Economy Worgroup), mainly ran by yours truly, core dev, so almost as good as official.

The FAQ will be expanded with your questions.

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January 19, 2015, 09:59:39 PM
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Jan of 2017....where do you guys see XMR?
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January 19, 2015, 10:05:22 PM
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Might be a bit of an ignorant question, but I can't seem to find this simple info anywhere (neither in OP nor on the rather broken monero website):

1) What is the smallest unit in monero? Is there an accepted name? Moneritos? Matoshis?

2) How much of these units make 1 monero?
Amount IS in the OP: 2^64-1

Smallest unit: piconero https://xmrmonero.com/node/88

This is the MEW (Monero Economy Worgroup), mainly ran by yours truly, core dev, so almost as good as official.

The FAQ will be expanded with your questions.

a proof set of coins in these different denominations would be very cool thing to have.
well also just one proof monero coin like cassascius did with bitcoin would be a nice thing as well Smiley
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January 19, 2015, 10:12:16 PM
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Jan of 2017....where do you guys see XMR?

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January 19, 2015, 10:18:32 PM
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Monero has a dice game now (outside IRC).

The site is just released, our bankroll on that coin is still low (about 400 XMR).

You can come gambling a bit or catching the opportunity to become one of the first investor.

Good luck !

CCD English thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=929949.0
CCD sujet en Français: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=929963

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January 19, 2015, 10:19:22 PM
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Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

Just to clarify - how much have you personally donated to cover the hundreds of man-hours that have been spent on the blockchainDB and lmdb implementation? Because hey, buddy, if you're not commensurately paying for it then you don't have permission to demand anything. At all. Ever.

Donations to fund Monero development can be made here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700400.0;all

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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January 19, 2015, 11:11:46 PM
Last edit: January 25, 2015, 04:09:01 PM by dewdeded
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Job Advertisement

See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg10256062#msg10256062
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January 19, 2015, 11:22:51 PM
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I am ready for feedback on my wording (eg. preface) of above job ad. Wink
I know the text/wording is suboptimal, I will optimize it tommorow. Good night!
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January 19, 2015, 11:24:32 PM
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...About the job
We search editorial staff for a private new webpage,.....

Should say we are searching for editorial staff......

And it should say hosts not host




I am ready for feedback on my wording (eg. preface) of above job ad. Wink
I know the text/wording is suboptimal, I will optimize it tommorow. Good night!

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Last edit: January 20, 2015, 09:43:14 PM by saddambitcoin
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Monero has a dice game now (outside IRC).

The site is just released, our bankroll on that coin is still low (about 400 XMR).

You can come gambling a bit or catching the opportunity to become one of the first investor.

Good luck !

CCD English thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=929949.0
CCD sujet en Français: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=929963


I tried it out, despite the fact Firefox gave me an untrusted error. Lost about 5 XMR and invested the rest (everyone knows Saddam has terrible luck). Seems legit.

All in all, still having more fun in #tippero with all my Monero friends.

Edit: The SSL certificate is working now, bet & invest away!



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January 20, 2015, 05:09:56 AM
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Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

Just to clarify - how much have you personally donated to cover the hundreds of man-hours that have been spent on the blockchainDB and lmdb implementation? Because hey, buddy, if you're not commensurately paying for it then you don't have permission to demand anything. At all. Ever.

That is a logical fallacy and you know it. In this particular context, cryptocurrency utility to development cost ratio is a race to the bottom.

So was this an impulse response to me neglecting to mention the hard work going on, or was it to cover some ineptitude? I pointed out a truth, not a demand
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January 20, 2015, 05:43:48 AM
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Every day the database merge doesn't reach production, Monero declines in practicality

Just to clarify - how much have you personally donated to cover the hundreds of man-hours that have been spent on the blockchainDB and lmdb implementation? Because hey, buddy, if you're not commensurately paying for it then you don't have permission to demand anything. At all. Ever.

That is a logical fallacy and you know it. In this particular context, cryptocurrency utility to development cost ratio is a race to the bottom.

So was this an impulse response to me neglecting to mention the hard work going on, or was it to cover some ineptitude? I pointed out a truth, not a demand

You didn't point out a truth, you merely asserted an opinion (which was promptly demolished).

Hectoring coders while one does nothing to help is a long-time pet peeve of FOSS devs.

There is a canonical quote on the matter, which I can't find ATM.   Cheesy

But I'm certain smooth, fluffy, pa, or Taco (who doubtless all know it by heart) can provide it.

Please try out the shiny new Win64 DB binary and provide feedback.  Then you will have some (non-zero) standing to cast FUD about.


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