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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4569506 times)
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February 16, 2017, 09:52:17 AM
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I'd be happy to give a few pointers if you ask a bit more politely.

Edit: OK, not that impolite compared to some, so here goes:

This is a rct tx, so the amounts are not visible. I assume you looked at the inputs in your wallet to determine they were 5 and 5 monero, respectively. Monero picks N inputs, totally at least what you want to send plus the fee, and will return the extra as change. Change will be locked for 10 blocks. So if you wanted to send 7, and used 5+5 inputs, you'll get 2.9xxx as change (3, minus the tx fee).

If you sent to Polo and they did not receive it, maybe you did not put your payment id in. In that case, Polo still has the coins, but they don't know who to credit them to, since you didn't tell them by way of that payment id.

payment id has been filled - I don`t know how but gui-wallet doesnt accept it when paying
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February 16, 2017, 10:05:21 AM
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payment id has been filled - I don`t know how but gui-wallet doesnt accept it when paying

Be more precise about what you did, and what happened. Reading the above, I get the impression that the payment id was more sent, and not sent. Make sure you check the payment id is 64 characters (ie, not left a character out, etc).
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February 16, 2017, 12:29:52 PM
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We need a DECENTRALIZED killer app based on Monero, which can help Monero has a better adoption in the whole world.

No, we need an app that will attract regular people outside of the "crypto" community, not one that forces them to care about things they otherwise wouldn't.

Monero is just money. Every business or person who wants to use it shouldn't have to do so in a super private or decentralized manner. There's no point in having money if only techies can use it.

Any ideas about this kind of app?
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February 16, 2017, 06:17:31 PM
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A great 'killer' Monero app would be a centralized web wallet/mobile app that allows you to send XMR to any email address or phone number, whether they have a wallet setup or not. The recipient would get a notification that they received a payment, and can simply login from that device or email to claim it. Easy peasy.

It's basically a cryptocurrency version of Paypal/Venmo. Centralized, yes, but a dead easy way for people to get their feet wet and send some XMR to friends who wouldn't otherwise be inclined to learn about it. I don't know a lot of people who would turn down money, even if it's the magical internet type.

This is a great idea.  It reaches outside our world nicely.

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February 16, 2017, 09:25:03 PM
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about 4 hours last block

Please tip the Node 1MPWKB23NsZsXHANnFwVAWT86mL24fqAjF; KO4UX
THAT NO GOOD DO GOODER BAT!!!
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February 16, 2017, 10:58:24 PM
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about 4 hours last block

On your local node ?
I doubt it's the case on the network, as blocks seem to be found just fine right now, and a 4 hour lapse seems unlikely. If it's on your node, try two commands in monerod:

"print_cn" and see if you have any connections. If you don't have any, exit monerod, delete p2pstate.bin, and restart monerod.

"set_log 1" and see if you get error messages when adding blocks
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February 17, 2017, 12:02:42 AM
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I was referring to the pool sir Cool

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February 17, 2017, 11:31:24 AM
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Was nice to see a good increase in XMR/BTC price today - same with ETH over the last couple of days. Didn't notice any change in the fundamentals yet - will be interesting to see where the price changes lead to.

There's a speculation thread dude. Please use it. Everyone loves talking price in there!

Sorry about that, I thought I was in the speculation thread =) I was wondering why there was no speculation on here. LOL
hahahahahahah...very funny statement of you ...i think it is too better to work with yourself instead of raising point at others...
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February 17, 2017, 01:09:52 PM
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A great 'killer' Monero app would be a centralized web wallet/mobile app that allows you to send XMR to any email address or phone number, whether they have a wallet setup or not. The recipient would get a notification that they received a payment, and can simply login from that device or email to claim it. Easy peasy.

It's basically a cryptocurrency version of Paypal/Venmo. Centralized, yes, but a dead easy way for people to get their feet wet and send some XMR to friends who wouldn't otherwise be inclined to learn about it. I don't know a lot of people who would turn down money, even if it's the magical internet type.

This is a great idea.  It reaches outside our world nicely.

So something just like what bitcoin did with this? https://www.moneypacket.org/ https://github.com/woodser/moneypacket.org Im on board.... we need funding for this or what? Ill throw some moneroj to whoever wants to tackle this!
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February 17, 2017, 02:09:07 PM
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That moneypacket thing...
I thought emails go in cleartext... so putting the password in the same email that has the moneypacket attachment would be dangerous.  The sender needs to use a second communications channel to transmit the password.
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February 17, 2017, 02:12:03 PM
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What about mining difficulty?
Ive seen that XMR mining difficulty has been raising considerably over time.
What will happen when CPUs are not enough to mine it anymore? Will XMR fall down because of the big amount of cpu miners that wont be able to mine anymore?
How long this would take to happen and is there any possibility of gpus not being able to mine xmr in future?
If it raises its price a lot, will it become asic only?
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February 17, 2017, 07:12:38 PM
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That moneypacket thing...
I thought emails go in cleartext... so putting the password in the same email that has the moneypacket attachment would be dangerous.  The sender needs to use a second communications channel to transmit the password.

Moneypacket is interesting, but I agree passwords in clear text is not such a good idea. What I suggested requires control of the email account. If I send 1 XMR to abc123@hotmail.com, the receiver would get an email saying he received a payment, and to log into his account (or create one) with that email verified. Obviously within the system you'd be able to link multiple email accounts or phone numbers that belong to you.
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February 17, 2017, 07:19:42 PM
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Once again why Zcash unknown ammount of coins is a bad idea (design).

Zcoin was attacked due to bug in code and 370k coins were created and sold for about $500k.
Similar bug in Zcash would go unnoticed due to imposibility to check total amount of coins in existence.
https://zcoin.io/language/en/important-announcement-zerocoin-implementation-bug/

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February 17, 2017, 07:39:38 PM
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A great 'killer' Monero app would be a centralized web wallet/mobile app that allows you to send XMR to any email address or phone number, whether they have a wallet setup or not. The recipient would get a notification that they received a payment, and can simply login from that device or email to claim it. Easy peasy.

It's basically a cryptocurrency version of Paypal/Venmo. Centralized, yes, but a dead easy way for people to get their feet wet and send some XMR to friends who wouldn't otherwise be inclined to learn about it. I don't know a lot of people who would turn down money, even if it's the magical internet type.

This is a great idea.  It reaches outside our world nicely.

So something just like what bitcoin did with this? https://www.moneypacket.org/ https://github.com/woodser/moneypacket.org Im on board.... we need funding for this or what? Ill throw some moneroj to whoever wants to tackle this!

That is a very cool idea.


That moneypacket thing...
I thought emails go in cleartext... so putting the password in the same email that has the moneypacket attachment would be dangerous.  The sender needs to use a second communications channel to transmit the password.

Moneypacket is interesting, but I agree passwords in clear text is not such a good idea. What I suggested requires control of the email account. If I send 1 XMR to abc123@hotmail.com, the receiver would get an email saying he received a payment, and to log into his account (or create one) with that email verified. Obviously within the system you'd be able to link multiple email accounts or phone numbers that belong to you.

Am I missing something or can't you just use encrypted email?

Once again why Zcash unknown ammount of coins is a bad idea (design).

Zcoin was attacked due to bug in code and 370k coins were created and sold for about $500k.
Similar bug in Zcash would go unnoticed due to imposibility to check total amount of coins in existence.
https://zcoin.io/language/en/important-announcement-zerocoin-implementation-bug/

LOL, Called it.


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February 17, 2017, 07:50:50 PM
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Once again why Zcash unknown ammount of coins is a bad idea (design).

Zcoin was attacked due to bug in code and 370k coins were created and sold for about $500k.
Similar bug in Zcash would go unnoticed due to imposibility to check total amount of coins in existence.
https://zcoin.io/language/en/important-announcement-zerocoin-implementation-bug/


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February 17, 2017, 08:52:04 PM
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That moneypacket thing...
I thought emails go in cleartext... so putting the password in the same email that has the moneypacket attachment would be dangerous.  The sender needs to use a second communications channel to transmit the password.

Moneypacket is interesting, but I agree passwords in clear text is not such a good idea. What I suggested requires control of the email account. If I send 1 XMR to abc123@hotmail.com, the receiver would get an email saying he received a payment, and to log into his account (or create one) with that email verified. Obviously within the system you'd be able to link multiple email accounts or phone numbers that belong to you.

Am I missing something or can't you just use encrypted email?

Sure, but such a requirement would defeat the purpose of the service (accessibility to non-tech-savvy or privacy oriented individuals).

It's not necessary though, as eavesdropping alone wouldn't give you access to funds. Plus, being a centralized service allows for additional security measures that the normies love, like trivial reversals of in-network transactions.
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February 17, 2017, 09:25:44 PM
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That moneypacket thing...
I thought emails go in cleartext... so putting the password in the same email that has the moneypacket attachment would be dangerous.  The sender needs to use a second communications channel to transmit the password.

Moneypacket is interesting, but I agree passwords in clear text is not such a good idea. What I suggested requires control of the email account. If I send 1 XMR to abc123@hotmail.com, the receiver would get an email saying he received a payment, and to log into his account (or create one) with that email verified. Obviously within the system you'd be able to link multiple email accounts or phone numbers that belong to you.

Am I missing something or can't you just use encrypted email?

Sure, but such a requirement would defeat the purpose of the service (accessibility to non-tech-savvy or privacy oriented individuals).

It's not necessary though, as eavesdropping alone wouldn't give you access to funds. Plus, being a centralized service allows for additional security measures that the normies love, like trivial reversals of in-network transactions.

There are many encrypted website style email services.

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February 17, 2017, 09:53:35 PM
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Yes, I understand that.

Expecting regular people to switch email providers just so I can send them a few XMR to play with defeats the purpose of the service.

The whole point is for it to work with everyone's existing email and phone number. They can receive payments without even knowing about the service.
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February 17, 2017, 10:03:55 PM
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Monero QR code generator for your long addresses Smiley

http://moneroqrcode.com

Feel free to give a feedback. Made it today.
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February 17, 2017, 10:16:15 PM
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The priorities of the members of this forum, their security measures, their recognition of the risk factors in crypto, etc are not shared by the public at large.
There are lots of people, even today, who have never even heard of bitcoin.  I've met such people.
It's going to require thinking outside the geek box to bring the public into crypto.  What you know about crypto security is less important than what you know about human nature, because less than one percent of the population is ever going to do anything demanding like use gpg.   
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