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April 27, 2014, 03:32:45 PM
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Hello!

I have been mostly lurking on the forum so I didn't post much but I am not new to Bitcoin Wink

I am looking for informations on just-dice, the owner's name is not public but he seems to be handling his business well, do some trusted members of the community know him?

I try to evaluate the risk of losing an investment on just-dice.

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April 27, 2014, 03:44:51 PM
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Hello!

I have been mostly lurking on the forum so I didn't post much but I am not new to Bitcoin Wink

I am looking for informations on just-dice, the owner's name is not public but he seems to be handling his business well, do some trusted members of the community know him?

I try to evaluate the risk of losing an investment on just-dice.

Just-Dice is one of the most legitimate gambling games out there. It's the first one to be probably fair, so much that you can make your own code. It was also the first to have the investment option. Many users have made money off of the site, including the person who bought the first Bitcoin car.

I've put money in Just-Dice, and gambled it. I never had any issues whatsoever.
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April 27, 2014, 04:07:29 PM
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VERY VERY SAFE, anything could happen, but I think I can say that for another 100 years, dooglus will be trustworthy.
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April 27, 2014, 04:52:15 PM
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Are you talking about how safe it is to invest or would you actually profit?  Because IMO just-dice is safe, but you might still turn up with a loss in investments. 

The owner, dooglus, is a high and respected member of this community Smiley
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April 27, 2014, 04:55:48 PM
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Doog is great and the likelyhood of him running with the money is zero, but there can still be a silkroad type event where goverment thugs (or private) decide to raid him.

I think Monero (XMR) is very interesting.
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April 27, 2014, 06:06:46 PM
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I investigated as well.  Site and owner seem very legit.  I wonder where the site and server and owner are located, in terms of if they're in the US, that could be a risk.  Otherwise the principle could go up and down but should go up given enough time.
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April 27, 2014, 06:11:54 PM
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Just-dice is good.  Played a few rounds.  Earned a few Satoshis.
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April 27, 2014, 07:06:09 PM
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Thank you for your answers, I am not worried about the short term fluctuations when my investment is ev>0 providing no cheating but I am trying to estimate the risks of losing my investment through an exterior event such as a government raid, the owner dying or fleeing.
The expected rate of return seems sufficient to overcome the risks.

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April 27, 2014, 07:09:19 PM
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It really depends, if a lot of people win, it isn't good for your investment, but if a lot of people lose it is good for your investment.

I think you can trust them, but I don't have much experience with Just-Dice.
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April 27, 2014, 07:55:57 PM
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If you can't trust just-dice then you can't trust any site as they are the oldest and the best in my honest opinion.
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April 27, 2014, 09:33:15 PM
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Since i have gotten into BTC Gambling Just dice was one of the first sites i have gambled with and I have only known them to be fully secure with the bitcoin I have sent them. Always received payments with no problems. Thats my experience.

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April 27, 2014, 09:34:47 PM
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Basic premise is that there will always be risk with any online wallet of any kind unless it uses a trustless system.

Just figure if its worth it to you or not.  If it isn't just go for cold storage.  If it is, do it.




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April 27, 2014, 10:02:29 PM
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As all the others said: you can no doubt trust just dice.

About the rate of interest: This is the graph of their profit in the last 6 months:

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April 27, 2014, 10:08:48 PM
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If you can't trust just-dice then you can't trust any site as they are the oldest and the best in my honest opinion.

They have been running from June 20 2013 so not that old but the site seems to be managed quite ok and they have build a lot of trust

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April 27, 2014, 10:20:13 PM
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As all the others said: you can no doubt trust just dice.

About the rate of interest: This is the graph of their profit in the last 6 months:


Very nice return, 30% in 6months with compounded interests but reinvesting the interests means you are risking it all.

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As far as the owner's concerned I would say very safe. Of course there's the variance to worry about and the fact that it regards a unlicensed online casino (SEC is pursuing Erik Voorhees for SatoshiDice).

There is always a risk to invest in a company but investing in a new industry, a new company getting a revenue in a new currency (or commodity Tongue) is even riskier, the riskiest is not to invest anywhere and not getting any return or seeing its capital erodes with inflation.

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April 27, 2014, 11:33:31 PM
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Just-dice and doog have a excellent reputation and personally I would say pretty safe. But things happen, think about gox or inputs.io... you should never leave more money than you can afford to lose on any site.

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April 28, 2014, 12:44:36 AM
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Just-dice and doog have a excellent reputation and personally I would say pretty safe. But things happen, think about gox or inputs.io... you should never leave more money than you can afford to lose on any site.

I agree with this wholeheartedly even though I would trust those sites with my whole wallet! Definitely don't put in more than you can afford to lose. That goes for any and every gambling thing you do.
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I investigated as well.  Site and owner seem very legit.  I wonder where the site and server and owner are located, in terms of if they're in the US, that could be a risk.  Otherwise the principle could go up and down but should go up given enough time.
It's a .com domain - that means it's managed by a US company. (I'm talking about who manages the .com zone, not the site itself)
The Registrar is in the US as well.
Regarding hosting, they're using cloudflare (which is in the US), but I don't know where their server is physically located.


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Not sure where the server is physically located, but I do know doog is from Canada, and is very trustworthy. Haven't had a single issue from this site, and I've been gambling there for months now.

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It's very safe, they have set up an emergency withdrawal address and everything. "Emergency meaning that if anything happens to the owner all your investments and amount in your account from the cold wallet will be automatically transferred to your address if anything were to happen".

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I've heard of this before but how do I go about investing in Just Dice? Link?
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I've heard of this before but how do I go about investing in Just Dice? Link?
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Just-dice.com

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I've heard of this before but how do I go about investing in Just Dice? Link?
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Go to 'deposit' and send btc to the given address. After one confirmation, the bitcoins will appear on your balance.
Go to the tab'invest'. Go to 'edit'. Here you can invest some of your bitcoins.

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April 28, 2014, 09:43:20 AM
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On the site, the "invested" amount is currectly at 36,085.
So the total bankroll would be that 36,085 + original funds from owners?

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On the site, the "invested" amount is currectly at 36,085.
So the total bankroll would be that 36,085 + original funds from owners?

The bankroll is the amount stated on the website, the owners take a 10% cut on profits

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What is the monthly incentive for investing in the site?

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On the site, the "invested" amount is currectly at 36,085.
So the total bankroll would be that 36,085 + original funds from owners?

The bankroll is the amount stated on the website, the owners take a 10% cut on profits
Does this mean the owners have invested 0 BTC into the site's bankroll?


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On the site, the "invested" amount is currectly at 36,085.
So the total bankroll would be that 36,085 + original funds from owners?

The bankroll is the amount stated on the website, the owners take a 10% cut on profits
Does this mean the owners have invested 0 BTC into the site's bankroll?

No. I'm pretty sure Doog started the site with 100BTC, though, I'm not sure if he still has it in the site.
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I investigated as well.  Site and owner seem very legit.  I wonder where the site and server and owner are located, in terms of if they're in the US, that could be a risk.  Otherwise the principle could go up and down but should go up given enough time.
It's a .com domain - that means it's managed by a US company. (I'm talking about who manages the .com zone, not the site itself)
The Registrar is in the US as well.
Regarding hosting, they're using cloudflare (which is in the US), but I don't know where their server is physically located.

You would think the government agencies would shut it down

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May 02, 2014, 06:35:53 AM
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It's the first one to be probably fair

While I do like just dice what your stating here is false.

Just dice.... is perhaps the ~25th to 50th bitcoin gambling site to be provably fair.

There first few are the original bitcoin lotto (good turned scam and now offline) or bitcoin darts (still plugging along Cheesy) closely followed by satoshidice.

If you can't trust just-dice then you can't trust any site as they are the oldest and the best in my honest opinion.

They have been running from June 20 2013 so not that old but the site seems to be managed quite ok and they have build a lot of trust

Yes, and prior to that doog was incredible helpful in reviewing gambling sites for my list and also would generate his satoshidice profit graphs.

As far as trusting doog to handle your money safely, well so far so good Smiley

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May 04, 2014, 05:36:44 PM
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It's the first one to be probably fair

While I do like just dice what your stating here is false.

Just dice.... is perhaps the ~25th to 50th bitcoin gambling site to be provably fair.

There first few are the original bitcoin lotto (good turned scam and now offline) or bitcoin darts (still plugging along Cheesy) closely followed by satoshidice.

If you can't trust just-dice then you can't trust any site as they are the oldest and the best in my honest opinion.

They have been running from June 20 2013 so not that old but the site seems to be managed quite ok and they have build a lot of trust

Yes, and prior to that doog was incredible helpful in reviewing gambling sites for my list and also would generate his satoshidice profit graphs.

As far as trusting doog to handle your money safely, well so far so good Smiley

Thank you for the feedback, it was on a public forum and only a year ago but it was forgotten and people speculate

The risk involved in investing in Just-D is good because it is the reason why the rate of return is high

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Can you please lock this topic as its been resolved? thanks  Smiley
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May 04, 2014, 07:12:36 PM
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I tend to always be on the loosing end when it comes to investing in any type of gambling site. I'd stay away from it as much as possible.
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I tend to always be on the loosing end when it comes to investing in any type of gambling site. I'd stay away from it as much as possible.

Can you elaborate? Where did you invest?

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It's very safe, they have set up an emergency withdrawal address and everything. "Emergency meaning that if anything happens to the owner all your investments and amount in your account from the cold wallet will be automatically transferred to your address if anything were to happen".

cold wallet + automatically transferred? i see a contradiction here.

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It's very safe, they have set up an emergency withdrawal address and everything. "Emergency meaning that if anything happens to the owner all your investments and amount in your account from the cold wallet will be automatically transferred to your address if anything were to happen".

cold wallet + automatically transferred? i see a contradiction here.

Cold storage but it can be plugged in and transferred automatically once plugged in if needed

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It's very safe, they have set up an emergency withdrawal address and everything. "Emergency meaning that if anything happens to the owner all your investments and amount in your account from the cold wallet will be automatically transferred to your address if anything were to happen".

cold wallet + automatically transferred? i see a contradiction here.
They have a large cold wallet (14o7zMMUJkG6De24r3JkJ6USgChq7iWF86) and several small hot wallets.

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Can you please lock this topic as its been resolved? thanks  Smiley

It can be an ongoing discussion Wink

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May 27, 2014, 08:06:41 PM
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When I was researching investing, just-dice was my #1 choice in terms of transparency and reputation of the admin.  Guess you can certainly put it above everydice now. 
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You don't need to worry about JD's legitimacy. I know of people who've invested 1000 BTC into the site.
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You don't need to worry about JD's legitimacy. I know of people who've invested 1000 BTC into the site.

I'm not saying JD is not good.

But just people put in a lot of money doesn't prove anything, think about Bernard Madoff


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May 27, 2014, 08:46:50 PM
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Its very safe to put it into Just-dice. However, if he dies I don't know if there is a deadman switch in place. From what I've heard, Doog is kind of a old guy... Wink

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I'm going to try Just-Dice, I was unconfident with it but this thread, with all the positive feedbacks, changed my mind  Smiley

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one of the old dice sites
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June 04, 2014, 06:19:42 PM
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Safe , and the high volume makes it very very unlikely for a loss.

And as stated and restated , dooglus is trustworthy.

Good luck investing Smiley

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When the price raised x10 six months ago dooglus didn't close the website so he won't close it when if the price goes x10 very fast again, there are obviously risks involved in investing in JD but the return is very nice

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November 16, 2014, 06:35:29 PM
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It was very safe to invest in just-dice but the site closed Sad

Other options to make really risky investments in Dice sites here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=826466.0 but I don't feel comfortable investing in them.

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November 16, 2014, 07:54:19 PM
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It was very safe to invest in just-dice but the site closed Sad

Other options to make really risky investments in Dice sites here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=826466.0 but I don't feel comfortable investing in them.

Trying to get signature campaign posts? lol

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It was very safe to invest in just-dice but the site closed Sad

Other options to make really risky investments in Dice sites here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=826466.0 but I don't feel comfortable investing in them.

Trying to get signature campaign posts? lol

So i dont know what you are trying mr primedice.com  Roll Eyes Grin
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Yea these games do pretty well. Invest in Satoshipop, you can buy it and make your money back in few months!  Cheesy

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lol, its a cool site.




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Would love to see more of the legit sites allow invest options Smiley
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Would love to see more of the legit sites allow invest options Smiley

Yes, more sites with investment option are always welcome...
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November 18, 2014, 01:31:36 AM
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As all the others said: you can no doubt trust just dice.

About the rate of interest: This is the graph of their profit in the last 6 months:

wow good profit
Graph is really beautiful Cheesy

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If you are looking for some serious investment in a good site.

You might want to check out my sig.

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November 18, 2014, 01:54:52 AM
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It was very safe to invest in just-dice but the site closed Sad

Other options to make really risky investments in Dice sites here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=826466.0 but I don't feel comfortable investing in them.

you can be reported for bringing up a dead topic. Don't risk your account for posts

  
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November 18, 2014, 02:39:24 AM
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dice sites in general are dangerous to invest.

Just dice was an exception, but it is closed now Sad

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November 18, 2014, 02:57:21 AM
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dice sites in general are dangerous to invest.

Just dice was an exception, but it is closed now Sad

What do you think about Win88 Casino's invest feature on dice?
Is my BTC safe there? I got 15 BTC on invest.
Site paid me pretty well too.
Should I continue or withdraw?

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dice sites in general are dangerous to invest.

Just dice was an exception, but it is closed now Sad

What do you think about Win88 Casino's invest feature on dice?
Is my BTC safe there? I got 15 BTC on invest.
Site paid me pretty well too.
Should I continue or withdraw?

I don't know about Win88.Also it is new for me that they accept investing.

But some giants like Casinobitcoin had problems, so only you can answer your question.

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November 19, 2014, 11:27:29 PM
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It was very safe to invest in just-dice but the site closed Sad

Other options to make really risky investments in Dice sites here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=826466.0 but I don't feel comfortable investing in them.

you can be reported for bringing up a dead topic. Don't risk your account for posts

Thank you for the advice but it is my post and I wanted to update it, I won't count it for the signature campaign.

As all the others said: you can no doubt trust just dice.

About the rate of interest: This is the graph of their profit in the last 6 months:

wow good profit
Graph is really beautiful Cheesy

I would like to see the graph for the next 6months.

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November 19, 2014, 11:50:16 PM
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dice sites in general are dangerous to invest.

Just dice was an exception, but it is closed now Sad

Well, invested 10 BTC in win88 and its doing well.

I didnt catch JD.

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December 20, 2014, 02:52:57 PM
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dice sites in general are dangerous to invest.

Just dice was an exception, but it is closed now Sad

Well, invested 10 BTC in win88 and its doing well.

I didnt catch JD.

It was very safe to invest in just-dice even if you could have lost your coins in case of a successful hacking, theft, loss of the cold wallet or a government raid.

You probably saw that you can now reinvest in the just-dice bankroll but it is all in CLAM!

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December 20, 2014, 03:06:25 PM
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dice sites in general are dangerous to invest.

Just dice was an exception, but it is closed now Sad

Well, invested 10 BTC in win88 and its doing well.

I didnt catch JD.

It was very safe to invest in just-dice even if you could have lost your coins in case of a successful hacking, theft, loss of the cold wallet or a government raid.

You probably saw that you can now reinvest in the just-dice bankroll but it is all in CLAM!

Yeah. CLAM is a good investment, and with the pwning, it is very good.

Just make sure, you don't get confused with a few people will lot of btc, playing at random coins.
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dice sites in general are dangerous to invest.

Just dice was an exception, but it is closed now Sad

Well, invested 10 BTC in win88 and its doing well.

I didnt catch JD.

It was very safe to invest in just-dice even if you could have lost your coins in case of a successful hacking, theft, loss of the cold wallet or a government raid.

You probably saw that you can now reinvest in the just-dice bankroll but it is all in CLAM!

Yeah. CLAM is a good investment, and with the pwning, it is very good.

Just make sure, you don't get confused with a few people will lot of btc, playing at random coins.

where can I buy clam ?

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December 20, 2014, 03:13:09 PM
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just dice is the most old but personally i dont invest in gabling
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December 24, 2014, 02:12:37 AM
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Potential investors may want to try with small amounts in the beginning.

Then see how it goes.

That's what I did.

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December 24, 2014, 04:26:14 AM
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where can I buy clam ?

Poloniex (https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_clam) and Cryptsy (https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/CLAM_BTC).


Yeah. CLAM is a good investment, and with the pwning, it is very good.

Looks like the hype is over, and the price falls back now.

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December 24, 2014, 06:59:52 AM
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Yeah. CLAM is a good investment, and with the pwning, it is very good.

Looks like the hype is over, and the price falls back now.

The hype isn't over. There are many good reasons, why clam remains attractive. It is just some people who sold it. It will rise again. It just keeps going in a cycle.

I think JD has not even completed 1 month of accepting CLAM. clam is likely to rebound back, as it keeps going up and down.

Price is very volatile and very profitable. JD has a bankroll of 50%+ of total supply which is very good plus.
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December 24, 2014, 07:02:08 AM
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me too like to invest in somewhere but dont know when i click on just dice deposit section i did not get any addy then how they give us profit ?

For e.g if i invest 1 btc then how much i get and after how much time ?!
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December 24, 2014, 08:30:25 AM
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me too like to invest in somewhere but dont know when i click on just dice deposit section i did not get any addy then how they give us profit ?

For e.g if i invest 1 btc then how much i get and after how much time ?!

JD only takes CLAM now, and so you can only invest with CLAM.
How much profit you will get, depends on how (un)lucky the other JD players are.

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December 24, 2014, 10:10:15 AM
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me too like to invest in somewhere but dont know when i click on just dice deposit section i did not get any addy then how they give us profit ?

For e.g if i invest 1 btc then how much i get and after how much time ?!

JD only takes CLAM now, and so you can only invest with CLAM.
How much profit you will get, depends on how (un)lucky the other JD players are.

so it means if the other players are lucky we get -ve profit ?
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December 24, 2014, 10:11:33 AM
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me too like to invest in somewhere but dont know when i click on just dice deposit section i did not get any addy then how they give us profit ?

For e.g if i invest 1 btc then how much i get and after how much time ?!

JD only takes CLAM now, and so you can only invest with CLAM.
How much profit you will get, depends on how (un)lucky the other JD players are.

Updates on JD/CLAM

Current # of dug CLAMS = 385,216
Price at Polinex 0.003 (CLAM/BTC) *$333 (USD/BTC) = $384K Market Cap (** Does not include undug)

JD Wagered - 808101 CLAMs in 18 days * .01 (House Edge) *365 Days = 163864 CLAM a Year Profit for Site
163864*.003*333 = $163701 USD Profit
Doog gets 10% of Profit - Doogs take $16k USD (fees)

Doog's Big take is Stake
1000 CLAM a day staked at JD * 10% = 100 Clam a day *
100*.003*333=$100 USD * 365 = $36500 a year (MORE THAN GAMBLING PROFIT FEES)

This guy just wins MATH







140% in CLAM in a year but if CLAM looses most its value you will lose

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ah hard to invest in it Tongue

is there any good website to invest Tongue ? not jd not a gambling one !

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CLAM is about to shoot up. less peopel who know, better for me
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December 24, 2014, 09:23:54 PM
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ah hard to invest in it Tongue

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ah hard to invest in it Tongue

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bitfinex

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I don't think there are any safe sites out there. You are probably best holding the bitcoins.

holding bitcoins is also not safe price is going down
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ah hard to invest in it Tongue

is there any good website to invest Tongue ? not jd not a gambling one !

bitfinex

HYIP sites

I don't think there are any safe sites out there. You are probably best holding the bitcoins.

holding bitcoins is also not safe price is going down

The price is going up it used to be 10$ less than 2 years ago.

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December 25, 2014, 01:08:33 PM
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me too like to invest in somewhere but dont know when i click on just dice deposit section i did not get any addy then how they give us profit ?

For e.g if i invest 1 btc then how much i get and after how much time ?!

JD only takes CLAM now, and so you can only invest with CLAM.
How much profit you will get, depends on how (un)lucky the other JD players are.

so it means if the other players are lucky we get -ve profit ?

Exactly.
If the players are unlucky and lose, the house and investors win. But if the players are lucky and win, the house and investors lose.

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ah hard to invest in it Tongue

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bitfinex

AFAIK, Bitfinex is an exchange and you can earn a very small interest if you lend your money to those leveraged traders.
It isn't safe as the site could vanish tomorrow, and the interest is way too low IMO.

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ah hard to invest in it Tongue

is there any good website to invest Tongue ? not jd not a gambling one !

bitfinex

AFAIK, Bitfinex is an exchange and you can earn a very small interest if you lend your money to those leveraged traders.
It isn't safe as the site could vanish tomorrow, and the interest is way too low IMO.

Interest is not that low but you have the risk of losing it all if the site fails entirely. It has been around for a while so it's kind of trustworthy and it is why i suggested it

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Very Much safe!I have my 1000 Calms invested there.

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its only safe if they dont shut down and run later on
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Very Much safe!I have my 1000 Calms invested there.

Stacking and profit from the players are bringing a nice profit. But the price you paid for CLAM will be crucial in the calculation of your BTC profit.

Since just-dice opened the price of CLAM has fluctuated between 0.002 and 0.01 BTC

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December 31, 2014, 11:45:46 AM
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its only safe if they dont shut down and run later on

Last time they shut down ,they informed the investors and told them to withdraw . So its safe even if they decide to shutdown.
I don't think there are any trust issues with justdice.
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December 31, 2014, 05:57:11 PM
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Very Much safe!I have my 1000 Calms invested there.


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December 31, 2014, 06:08:37 PM
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I think its better then putting anything out there. Everything else I see is some type of ponzi, so I take just-dice any day to invest.

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December 31, 2014, 09:10:11 PM
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Just dice is about the safest place to invest, but they only take the CLAM altcoin.

Other sites have investment, I would trust them only for small amounts until you have some confidence in the owner.

Dooglus, the owner of JD, is about as trustworthy as an anonymous person can be.
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December 31, 2014, 09:13:42 PM
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Dooglus is an asshole, he'll eat your children for dinner and steal all their toys if you're not careful (hes a carnivore and not a vegatarian). He one time told us he slapped a baby while he was working as a Santa Claus at the local mall in Canada cause the kid started crying that they probably weren't going to get a barbie jeep. Shame on Dooglus for bashing that child's dream and for bashing the kid physically. But hey the baby probably deserved it right?

@BAC sir I want to buy your coins and your SOUL. Escrow though please for both.

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It is not safe. If you bought clams at 0.006 now you are losing 50% of the investment if you want to convert that clams into btc or fiat due to the exchange rate.

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It is not safe. If you bought clams at 0.006 now you are losing 50% of the investment if you want to convert that clams into btc or fiat due to the exchange rate.

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Dooglus is an asshole, he'll eat your children for dinner and steal all their toys if you're not careful (hes a carnivore and not a vegatarian). He one time told us he slapped a baby while he was working as a Santa Claus at the local mall in Canada cause the kid started crying that they probably weren't going to get a barbie jeep. Shame on Dooglus for bashing that child's dream and for bashing the kid physically. But hey the baby probably deserved it right?

Also the way I recall it I slapped the rabbit and ate the baby.

@BAC sir I want to buy your coins and your SOUL. Escrow though please for both.

Are you the same KingOfSports who has been gracing us with your words of wisdom in the Just-Dice chat box?

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13:01:25 <system> (121) <@Warren> muted (990811) <mary beth> for 9999 seconds
13:04:19 (50298) <KingofSports> MARY BETH WAS ME TO WHOEVER MUTED ME FUCK YOU FUCK YOUR WIFE FUCK YOUR CHILDREN FUCK EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE....bay area I'd like to buy your 10 coins, escrow please have them contact me, cash deposit to your account thank you sir. BYE ALL YOU FUCKERS FUCK

I wonder if maybe you need to have a bit of a lie down.

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December 31, 2014, 09:35:04 PM
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It is not safe. If you bought clams at 0.006 now you are losing 50% of the investment if you want to convert that clams into btc or fiat due to the exchange rate.

This is a good point, there are two risks, the veracity of the site operator and the value of the underlying coin.  

However, this risk is present with bitcoin as well, since its price varies versus national currencies such as the USD.

I think the value of the underlying crypto currency is a separate issue though.  As far as things that JD can control, I think they are about as safe as you can find in the crypto currency world these days.

Maybe you can make the point though that if JD shuts down again the value of clams drops a lot since that is the main use for them.  I think they were like 30K satoshi before JD reopened.  That would be some kind of risk specific to JD.

Still, as BAC has pointed out, you can probably dig up some clams for free if you were in crypto back in May and try it for yourself.

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December 31, 2014, 09:40:10 PM
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Dooglus is an asshole, he'll eat your children for dinner and steal all their toys if you're not careful (hes a carnivore and not a vegatarian). He one time told us he slapped a baby while he was working as a Santa Claus at the local mall in Canada cause the kid started crying that they probably weren't going to get a barbie jeep. Shame on Dooglus for bashing that child's dream and for bashing the kid physically. But hey the baby probably deserved it right?

Also the way I recall it I slapped the rabbit and ate the baby.

@BAC sir I want to buy your coins and your SOUL. Escrow though please for both.

Are you the same KingOfSports who has been gracing us with your words of wisdom in the Just-Dice chat box?

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13:00:39 (990811) <mary beth> FUCK THIS PLACE FUCK THIS WORLD FUCK ALL OF YOU FUCK THIS BULLSHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK THE NEW FUCKING YEAR!
13:01:25 <system> (121) <@Warren> muted (990811) <mary beth> for 9999 seconds
13:04:19 (50298) <KingofSports> MARY BETH WAS ME TO WHOEVER MUTED ME FUCK YOU FUCK YOUR WIFE FUCK YOUR CHILDREN FUCK EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE....bay area I'd like to buy your 10 coins, escrow please have them contact me, cash deposit to your account thank you sir. BYE ALL YOU FUCKERS FUCK

I wonder if maybe you need to have a bit of a lie down.

Wow, those people sound unhappy...

Get off my c@ck !
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December 31, 2014, 10:03:03 PM
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it is one and only site that accept CLAMS and it should be backed by or related to developer of clamcoin so there are less chances of this to become a scam, i m not saying that it is 100% safe i m just telling it logically that you can trust it as much as you trust other online gambling sites
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December 31, 2014, 10:10:25 PM
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It is not safe. If you bought clams at 0.006 now you are losing 50% of the investment if you want to convert that clams into btc or fiat due to the exchange rate.
Thats not a matter of safety, but a matter of the price going down, due to the market.
Even bitcoin fell 50% over the last 2 months ,can't say investment dice sites for bitcoin aren't safe.

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it is one and only site that accept CLAMS and it should be backed by or related to developer of clamcoin so there are less chances of this to become a scam, i m not saying that it is 100% safe i m just telling it logically that you can trust it as much as you trust other online gambling sites
There are more website using clam as currency, yesterday I played in a website where you could play any casino game and dice with clams and exchange the clams to btc in the same casino.

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it is one and only site that accept CLAMS and it should be backed by or related to developer of clamcoin so there are less chances of this to become a scam, i m not saying that it is 100% safe i m just telling it logically that you can trust it as much as you trust other online gambling sites

just-dice is very safe but you have a huge exchange rate risk.

it is one and only site that accept CLAMS and it should be backed by or related to developer of clamcoin so there are less chances of this to become a scam, i m not saying that it is 100% safe i m just telling it logically that you can trust it as much as you trust other online gambling sites
There are more website using clam as currency, yesterday I played in a website where you could play any casino game and dice with clams and exchange the clams to btc in the same casino.

just-dice is ONLY accepting CLAM when other casinos accept CLAM and other alt-coins

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January 01, 2015, 02:52:21 AM
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it is one and only site that accept CLAMS and it should be backed by or related to developer of clamcoin so there are less chances of this to become a scam, i m not saying that it is 100% safe i m just telling it logically that you can trust it as much as you trust other online gambling sites

Other than JD, FortuneJack accepts CLAM as well.
I don't think dooglus and JD are involved in the development of the altcoin.

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January 01, 2015, 03:02:58 AM
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it is one and only site that accept CLAMS and it should be backed by or related to developer of clamcoin so there are less chances of this to become a scam, i m not saying that it is 100% safe i m just telling it logically that you can trust it as much as you trust other online gambling sites

Other than JD, FortuneJack accepts CLAM as well.
I don't think dooglus and JD are involved in the development of the altcoin.
Dooglus isn't involved, but dooglus is helping out the developers of that altcoin.
Dooglus earlier donated 100clams to the developer team of clam.
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January 01, 2015, 03:38:25 AM
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it is one and only site that accept CLAMS and it should be backed by or related to developer of clamcoin so there are less chances of this to become a scam, i m not saying that it is 100% safe i m just telling it logically that you can trust it as much as you trust other online gambling sites

Other than JD, FortuneJack accepts CLAM as well.
I don't think dooglus and JD are involved in the development of the altcoin.
Dooglus isn't involved, but dooglus is helping out the developers of that altcoin.
Dooglus earlier donated 100clams to the developer team of clam.

Okay, didn't know that part of the story.

But I guess we all agree dooglus is very trusted as a site operator. The problem is only on how risky the clam price is.

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it is one and only site that accept CLAMS and it should be backed by or related to developer of clamcoin so there are less chances of this to become a scam, i m not saying that it is 100% safe i m just telling it logically that you can trust it as much as you trust other online gambling sites

Other than JD, FortuneJack accepts CLAM as well.
I don't think dooglus and JD are involved in the development of the altcoin.
Dooglus isn't involved, but dooglus is helping out the developers of that altcoin.
Dooglus earlier donated 100clams to the developer team of clam.

Okay, didn't know that part of the story.

But I guess we all agree dooglus is very trusted as a site operator. The problem is only on how risky the clam price is.

/dig is free.

Everyone who owned BTC, LTC or DOGE has free clams.

I dont see the risk

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January 01, 2015, 05:06:41 AM
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/dig is free.

Everyone who owned BTC, LTC or DOGE has free clams.

I dont see the risk

True that many bitcoiners have some CLAM available to be dig, but they still have to face the CLAM price fluctuation if they decide to invest their coins in JD instead of selling it right away.

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I don't think dooglus and JD are involved in the development of the altcoin.
Dooglus isn't involved, but dooglus is helping out the developers of that altcoin.
Dooglus earlier donated 100clams to the developer team of clam.

I've contributed quite a lot of code changes to the CLAM client. That probably makes me "involved", I'd say.

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January 01, 2015, 05:34:06 PM
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it is one and only site that accept CLAMS and it should be backed by or related to developer of clamcoin so there are less chances of this to become a scam, i m not saying that it is 100% safe i m just telling it logically that you can trust it as much as you trust other online gambling sites

Other than JD, FortuneJack accepts CLAM as well.
I don't think dooglus and JD are involved in the development of the altcoin.
Dooglus isn't involved, but dooglus is helping out the developers of that altcoin.
Dooglus earlier donated 100clams to the developer team of clam.

Okay, didn't know that part of the story.

But I guess we all agree dooglus is very trusted as a site operator. The problem is only on how risky the clam price is.

If you buy and the price collapses you are likely to lose most your investment even if you made a lot of money from staking and losing players but if the price rises you will get a double pay out when you cash out.

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Something is going on. I watched "Layla" win at 14% over 30 times in a row. I just can't see that being hit that many times at 14%.. What's the mathmatical odds of that? I would really like to know.
 
I couldn't get a good screenshot with all the bets going but here's one.. Never a loss, only win at 14%.. I'm thinking some sort of copy paste but idk. I just can't bring myself to believe that this is possible. I'm sure there are some mathematical number for the odds. I would like to know this.

http://i.imgur.com/rwXlJMO.png

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Something is going on. I watched "Layla" win at 14% over 30 times in a row. I just can't see that being hit that many times at 14%.. What's the mathmatical odds of that? I would really like to know.
 
I couldn't get a good screenshot with all the bets going but here's one.. Never a loss, only win at 14%.. I'm thinking some sort of copy paste but idk. I just can't bring myself to believe that this is possible. I'm sure there are some mathematical number for the odds. I would like to know this.

http://i.imgur.com/rwXlJMO.png

As I told you in the JD chat, this is a frequently asked question.

Here's the answer, from the FAQ tab:



Edit: these are first two bets from your screenshot:



and here's a list of the bets that happened between these two, that didn't show up because of the threshold:

+----------+-------+--------+---------------------+-------------+
| betid    | stake | chance | date                | profit      |
+----------+-------+--------+---------------------+-------------+
| 12650757 |     6 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:14 | 36.42857142 |
| 12650763 |     6 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:15 |          -6 |
| 12650775 |     6 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:18 |          -6 |
| 12650804 |  0.01 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:21 |       -0.01 |
| 12650812 |  0.01 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:22 |       -0.01 |
| 12650820 |  0.01 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:23 |       -0.01 |
| 12650830 |  0.01 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:24 |  0.06071428 |
| 12650838 |  0.01 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:25 |       -0.01 |
| 12650846 |  0.01 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:26 |       -0.01 |
| 12650852 |  0.01 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:26 |       -0.01 |
| 12650857 |  0.01 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:27 |       -0.01 |
| 12650867 |  0.01 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:27 |       -0.01 |
| 12650871 |  0.01 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:28 |       -0.01 |
| 12650879 |  0.01 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:29 |       -0.01 |
| 12650887 |  0.01 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:30 |       -0.01 |
| 12650896 |  0.01 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:31 |       -0.01 |
| 12650922 |     3 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:34 |          -3 |
| 12650931 |     3 |     14 | 2015-01-01 19:17:35 | 18.21428571 |
+----------+-------+--------+---------------------+-------------+


Edit2: note that your clock is 8 seconds slow. If you're trying to stake CLAMs that could be a problem. The timestamps on bets use your local time, whereas chat messages use server time.

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January 02, 2015, 02:20:30 AM
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Hello!

I have been mostly lurking on the forum so I didn't post much but I am not new to Bitcoin Wink

I am looking for informations on just-dice, the owner's name is not public but he seems to be handling his business well, do some trusted members of the community know him?

I try to evaluate the risk of losing an investment on just-dice.

Anithing can happen. Investing in anythnig related to cryptocurrencies can be considered very risky.

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The biggest risk is the clam market going down imo.
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January 02, 2015, 06:14:13 AM
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The biggest risk is the clam market going down imo.
Yeah, because there's many people who just redeem the CLAM and exchange it to BTC in no time, made the the prices keep going down.

Well, about investing, I can't tell how safe is it. Who knows someone gonna win BIG later? You can't predict people's luck and future of course Grin
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January 02, 2015, 07:13:39 AM
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very interesting Smiley Might have to invest here... After I get my head around CLAM