darkslash
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August 25, 2014, 04:29:54 PM |
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Must........ resist............ trolls....... im not even trolling im seriously trying to get you guys to admit what i already know. what your trying to hide. together yous own 48% of current supply. but it seems im being trolling and you guys are denying? like you can sit there and say you own 2% but thats in 50 years, and we all know crypto will be dead and surpassed with something more superior. and whats this premine for? wasnt 1500btc enough? you need more winnings. tell jon4y i love him and ill be in irc with him soon.
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kencoles
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August 25, 2014, 04:32:27 PM |
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Must........ resist............ trolls....... im not even trolling im seriously trying to get you guys to admit what i already know. what your trying to hide. together yous own 48% of current supply. but it seems im being trolling and you guys are denying? like you can sit there and say you own 2% but thats in 50 years, and we all know crypto will be dead and surpassed with something more superior. and whats this premine for? wasnt 1500btc enough? you need more winnings. tell jon4y i love him and ill be in irc with him soon. Any proof brother?
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danosphere (OP)
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August 25, 2014, 04:34:01 PM |
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Must........ resist............ trolls....... PUBLIC NOTICE- I am deleting "darkslash" posts at this point. I'll leave the garbage posted already in the spirit of transparency, but we won't continue to let this stream on. There is nothing to hide here. If you want to believe his posts, they are there for you to do what you will and I can say concretely they are not true. We aren't spending bounties except on... bounties. We don't have any of the SYS bought by Moolah as buy support and won't for at least 5 months. We have no control over what they bought themselves nor are we "conspiring" with them as darkslash tries to imply regarding buying/selling. We are independent.
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mauriek
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August 25, 2014, 04:42:42 PM |
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can i assist you babe, since your math is lacking. DEV PREMINE 2% "BOUNTYS" 1% = 59m + 65m from buy support + your partnership (moolah) 35m = 159m = 48% owned by the parntership + devs (wither you claim there moving or not)
now delete it, babes scared of transparency. So what if Dev and Moolah have 48% for now? it's not stock market, it still their disadvantage if they in any way tried to use it as market manipulation, if anything fail at current development stage, the biggest looser is at dev and moolah, so i think with the fact that dev did not hold the sys from buy support and current moolah own investment, the rest of investor like us will still be safe at least for the next 6 month.
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manbot1
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August 25, 2014, 04:44:30 PM |
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Must........ resist............ trolls....... im not even trolling im seriously trying to get you guys to admit what i already know. what your trying to hide. together yous own 48% of current supply. but it seems im being trolling and you guys are denying? like you can sit there and say you own 2% but thats in 50 years, and we all know crypto will be dead and surpassed with something more superior. and whats this premine for? wasnt 1500btc enough? you need more winnings. tell jon4y i love him and ill be in irc with him soon. they not got that many but just lets say they have so what who cares. we believe the devs not you..and you said crypto will be dead in 50 years...haha what a laff..the crypto world as only just started..and almost everything you will do will be online..FACT.SO PAPER MONEY NO GOOD..IT WILL BE A DIGITAL WORLD..
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klopper
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August 25, 2014, 04:52:29 PM |
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Must........ resist............ trolls....... im not even trolling im seriously trying to get you guys to admit what i already know. what your trying to hide. together yous own 48% of current supply. but it seems im being trolling and you guys are denying? like you can sit there and say you own 2% but thats in 50 years, and we all know crypto will be dead and surpassed with something more superior. and whats this premine for? wasnt 1500btc enough? you need more winnings. tell jon4y i love him and ill be in irc with him soon. they not got that many but just lets say they have so what who cares. we believe the devs not you..and you said crypto will be dead in 50 years...haha what a laff..the crypto world as only just started..and almost everything you will do will be online..FACT.SO PAPER MONEY NO GOOD..IT WILL BE A DIGITAL WORLD.. +1
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wduhk
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August 25, 2014, 05:00:26 PM |
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Must........ resist............ trolls....... PUBLIC NOTICE- I am deleting "darkslash" posts at this point. I'll leave the garbage posted already in the spirit of transparency, but we won't continue to let this stream on. There is nothing to hide here. If you want to believe his posts, they are there for you to do what you will and I can say concretely they are not true. We aren't spending bounties except on... bounties. We don't have any of the SYS bought by Moolah as buy support and won't for at least 5 months. We have no control over what they bought themselves nor are we "conspiring" with them as darkslash tries to imply regarding buying/selling. We are independent. Bloody hell guys. For those of you who think it is a bad thing for the devs to own a large stake in this, please go to take some investment classes. Just like investing in a company, you want the owner to have a large stake in it so it is in his best interest that the company is doing well. Why they want to dump the coins anyway? Once they do, the coin price will sink like hell and they won't be able to get much out from it. Also, from a supply and demand perspective, it is better for the devs to own those coins than some whales as those coins won't appear in the market for some time which effectively lower the supply of coins in the market.
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mauriek
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August 25, 2014, 05:02:44 PM |
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Bloody hell guys. For those of you who think it is a bad thing for the devs to own a large stake in this, please go to take some investment classes. Just like investing in a company, you want the owner to have a large stake in it so it is in his best interest that the company is doing well. Why they want to dump the coins anyway? Once they do, the coin price will sink like hell and they won't be able to get much out from it. Also, from a supply and demand perspective, it is better for the devs to own those coins than some whales as those coins won't appear in the market for some time which effectively lower the supply of coins in the market.
thats is right. Using entirely the traditional stock market/Fiat market rules/knowledge for cryptocurrency market will not work, this is a new unexplored territory, some traditional safety rules from current stock market will benefit crypto market and other won't, in this matters, logically if i am the moolah i rather flush the majority current millions of sys for all out marketing and development effort to protect the bigger investment rather than some small insider trading profit.
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manbot1
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August 25, 2014, 05:11:42 PM |
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Must........ resist............ trolls....... im not even trolling im seriously trying to get you guys to admit what i already know. what your trying to hide. together yous own 48% of current supply. but it seems im being trolling and you guys are denying? like you can sit there and say you own 2% but thats in 50 years, and we all know crypto will be dead and surpassed with something more superior. and whats this premine for? wasnt 1500btc enough? you need more winnings. tell jon4y i love him and ill be in irc with him soon. thats what devs are doing now making sys the superior coin ..moolah believe in devs..and so do we as a community..yes we are slowly but surely getting more and more BELIEVERS..SO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS GO BUY SOME SYSCOIN and come back say your sorry and we as a community will forgive you..because you know your pig sick and you know it..so go on toddle off and you can come back..but you got to say sorry devs i will not spread fud again..so go on bye see you soon
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August 25, 2014, 05:40:54 PM |
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this thread is so sad, its full of holders that are butthurt desperately trying to get out at the price they brought in so they break even. so there defending anything that i write, even if i have hard solid proof. sorry boys the coin is dead, and will be for a long time. but dont worry it will never go below 200sats, as the dev and moolah own 48% of the current supply (proof in my previous posts - dont believe it? do math and prove me wrong), so unless they dump, it cant go below 200sats, so basically right now no one is really in syscoin, most investors have done the smart thing and dumped.
LOL devs are filthy rich, 1500btc and half the supply, wooooh, absolutely best scam of 2014, butt-fucked.
1500btc doesent even buy us a working block explorer or a functional coin. bahahha fuck. sorry guys
trolololololo
so if they planning on a scam why would they put 250 btc buy walls for people who wanted out..they would run with your bit coin and not buy any syscoin..it much better to run with bitcoin than syscoin so sort your head out you know you want in just say it u fool Don't bother wasting your breath. The guy is a bum. Just ignore him.
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August 25, 2014, 05:49:03 PM |
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this thread is so sad, its full of holders that are butthurt desperately trying to get out at the price they brought in so they break even. so there defending anything that i write, even if i have hard solid proof. sorry boys the coin is dead, and will be for a long time. but dont worry it will never go below 200sats, as the dev and moolah own 48% of the current supply (proof in my previous posts - dont believe it? do math and prove me wrong), so unless they dump, it cant go below 200sats, so basically right now no one is really in syscoin, most investors have done the smart thing and dumped.
LOL devs are filthy rich, 1500btc and half the supply, wooooh, absolutely best scam of 2014, butt-fucked.
1500btc doesent even buy us a working block explorer or a functional coin. bahahha fuck. sorry guys
trolololololo
so if they planning on a scam why would they put 250 btc buy walls for people who wanted out..they would run with your bit coin and not buy any syscoin..it much better to run with bitcoin than syscoin so sort your head out you know you want in just say it u fool because then you would clearly know its a scam straight away. this way they can slowly leech you without anyone suspecting. as the facts stand - devs have made $948,000 USD (ICO + Premine) and "investors" have made -30% on their initial investment. What does that tell you? does a few months work deserve a million dollars? does a broken block explorer, failed launch, broken wallets, litecoin clone, 48% premine coin deserve 1million dollars USD Mate, they have that on paper, but they cant sell them, not for that price at least. Once they do, the coin will be worth nothing. It is in their best interest that the coin is doing really well so they can cash out some of their coins without killing it.
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August 25, 2014, 05:54:48 PM |
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this thread is so sad, its full of holders that are butthurt desperately trying to get out at the price they brought in so they break even. so there defending anything that i write, even if i have hard solid proof. sorry boys the coin is dead, and will be for a long time. but dont worry it will never go below 200sats, as the dev and moolah own 48% of the current supply (proof in my previous posts - dont believe it? do math and prove me wrong), so unless they dump, it cant go below 200sats, so basically right now no one is really in syscoin, most investors have done the smart thing and dumped.
LOL devs are filthy rich, 1500btc and half the supply, wooooh, absolutely best scam of 2014, butt-fucked.
1500btc doesent even buy us a working block explorer or a functional coin. bahahha fuck. sorry guys
trolololololo
so if they planning on a scam why would they put 250 btc buy walls for people who wanted out..they would run with your bit coin and not buy any syscoin..it much better to run with bitcoin than syscoin so sort your head out you know you want in just say it u fool because then you would clearly know its a scam straight away. this way they can slowly leech you without anyone suspecting. come on they showed there faces no 1 does that..you would do it better than that no faces no tracers..they are well know devs with there reps on the line ..between moolah and the devs we have..got to be 10 people on board..what 76k each..haha shit hot devs make that in 1 year.. then what do they do then no 1 will go near them for what 76k each..they want to be millionaires ..not 76k to last them for ever coz they would never get hired if they run..and they will have a bad name
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Honeycutt22
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August 25, 2014, 05:58:41 PM |
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this coin should never ever have dropped below ICO price. if the devs were competent this wouldn't have happened, but there were unexperienced and clear amateurs. it makes ZERO sense that investors are down $227,000 and devs are up $994,000 usd. its just pure greed.
complete failure, the whole point of an ICO was so that people actually make money.
I thought this guys posts were gonna get deleted? It's passed the point of constructive criticism.. This guy is a loon.
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danosphere (OP)
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August 25, 2014, 05:59:29 PM |
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this coin should never ever have dropped below ICO price. if the devs were competent this wouldn't have happened, but there were unexperienced and clear amateurs. it makes ZERO sense that investors are down $227,000 and devs are up $994,000 usd. its just pure greed.
complete failure, the whole point of an ICO was so that people actually make money.
I thought this guys posts were gonna get deleted? It's passed the point of constructive criticism.. This guy is a loon. He is creating trash faster than I can delete it, please ignore this troll. Don't feed the trolls.
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August 25, 2014, 05:59:41 PM |
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this coin should never ever have dropped below ICO price. if the devs were competent this wouldn't have happened, but there were unexperienced and clear amateurs. it makes ZERO sense that investors are down $227,000 and devs are up $994,000 usd. its just pure greed.
complete failure, the whole point of an ICO was so that people actually make money.
Well u FUDers have done a great job. Hope you guys have made good money out from this. Well, guess not good enough. That's why you are still here.
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August 25, 2014, 06:03:20 PM |
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I must say. That's really a sharp observation for the amount of coins owned by the dev+moolah. This is no FUD. This is a fact. @Darkslash you havent paid attention havent you? Moolah bought coins with devs bitcoins, because people wanted support at ipo price.
And there you have it, support is gone and devs end up with more syscoin. That amount of sys will be returned to devs in 6months from now if I understood correctly. Thats wrong for you too? Damn you just cant please the mass...
Devs kept their word for supporting the coin at ipo price and now you are fudding about it?
@Pmalek, you havent payed attention have you? 250btc buy support was out of the devs btc. In a complete separate transaction, moolah has purchased 140btc worth of sys. get your facts straight. If you still fail to believe, check moolah's twitter posts, its confirmed 140btc was purchased by him. for the last time this is not FUD, why is it that everytime someone posts proof or facts, desperate holders try to call it lies? Devs just because you guys promised to be transparent, could you please confirm the percentage of syscoin you currently own from premine and buy support walls. as it stands my calculations come to 34% of current supply, and your partnership (moolah) a further 14% of current supply. Your investors are waiting. Where are you getting these "Facts" from because it sounds like BS to me? The Devs havent had any payment from Moolah (they apparantly returned the first 250BTC when the coin launch hit problems), and as far as im aware have never stated that they will be putting that entire first lump sum into buy support. If i remember a few pages back one of the devs said that a few of the team were aiming to use "some" BTC to try offer buy support but thats all that was said - nothing has happened yet because theyve not had any money? - At least this is my interpretation of the whole thing. Id be suprised if theres been 250BTC SUM in trades across all exchanges since the thing launched tbh, as volumes have been incredibly low. Bittrex has had an average of about 17 BTC per day, Cryptsy 3 - 5 BTC today - your telling us theyve bought the entire damn supply up? As for Moolah - they can buy whatever they want its nothing to do with the Devs. If you wanted to buy in 140 BTC worth at launch you think it would be THAT HARD to make a few payments of the 25BTC max as different users etc? im not even going to bother to argue with you, your obviously a desperate holder trying to break even, so you dismiss everything as FUD and lies. OK so you want proof eh?lets lay this out for you in simple terms. 1. ok premine is 59million, ( as seen here: http://sys.coinzone.info/address/STqv5wokEnanoedaXY9ihAtvM9ppKhyici) 2. DEVs openly brought 250btc worth (65m) (as buy support) - as discussed in previous thread. search it3.. moolah brought 140btc (35m sys) worth of the ICO (notice it says of ICO, not after launch) ( here: https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/501022140230299648) 159million syscoins total owned by the partnership and developers- 48% of current supply. or would you still like to claim FUD?
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August 25, 2014, 06:07:28 PM |
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So? They can't sell them without killing the coin. The coin will be worth nothing even if they only sell 20% of their holdings. I must say. That's really a sharp observation for the amount of coins owned by the dev+moolah. This is no FUD. This is a fact. @Darkslash you havent paid attention havent you? Moolah bought coins with devs bitcoins, because people wanted support at ipo price.
And there you have it, support is gone and devs end up with more syscoin. That amount of sys will be returned to devs in 6months from now if I understood correctly. Thats wrong for you too? Damn you just cant please the mass...
Devs kept their word for supporting the coin at ipo price and now you are fudding about it?
@Pmalek, you havent payed attention have you? 250btc buy support was out of the devs btc. In a complete separate transaction, moolah has purchased 140btc worth of sys. get your facts straight. If you still fail to believe, check moolah's twitter posts, its confirmed 140btc was purchased by him. for the last time this is not FUD, why is it that everytime someone posts proof or facts, desperate holders try to call it lies? Devs just because you guys promised to be transparent, could you please confirm the percentage of syscoin you currently own from premine and buy support walls. as it stands my calculations come to 34% of current supply, and your partnership (moolah) a further 14% of current supply. Your investors are waiting. Where are you getting these "Facts" from because it sounds like BS to me? The Devs havent had any payment from Moolah (they apparantly returned the first 250BTC when the coin launch hit problems), and as far as im aware have never stated that they will be putting that entire first lump sum into buy support. If i remember a few pages back one of the devs said that a few of the team were aiming to use "some" BTC to try offer buy support but thats all that was said - nothing has happened yet because theyve not had any money? - At least this is my interpretation of the whole thing. Id be suprised if theres been 250BTC SUM in trades across all exchanges since the thing launched tbh, as volumes have been incredibly low. Bittrex has had an average of about 17 BTC per day, Cryptsy 3 - 5 BTC today - your telling us theyve bought the entire damn supply up? As for Moolah - they can buy whatever they want its nothing to do with the Devs. If you wanted to buy in 140 BTC worth at launch you think it would be THAT HARD to make a few payments of the 25BTC max as different users etc? im not even going to bother to argue with you, your obviously a desperate holder trying to break even, so you dismiss everything as FUD and lies. OK so you want proof eh?lets lay this out for you in simple terms. 1. ok premine is 59million, ( as seen here: http://sys.coinzone.info/address/STqv5wokEnanoedaXY9ihAtvM9ppKhyici) 2. DEVs openly brought 250btc worth (65m) (as buy support) - as discussed in previous thread. search it3.. moolah brought 140btc (35m sys) worth of the ICO (notice it says of ICO, not after launch) ( here: https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/501022140230299648) 159million syscoins total owned by the partnership and developers- 48% of current supply. or would you still like to claim FUD?
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darkslash
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August 25, 2014, 06:09:15 PM |
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this coin should never ever have dropped below ICO price. if the devs were competent this wouldn't have happened, but there were unexperienced and clear amateurs. it makes ZERO sense that investors are down $227,000 and devs are up $994,000 usd. its just pure greed.
complete failure, the whole point of an ICO was so that people actually make money.
Well u FUDers have done a great job. Hope you guys have made good money out from this. i apologize if i come across as aggressive or a FUDDER. i myself do not hold any more SYS and don't plan on it. im just trying to reach out to the community to show them the truth. but i feel the truth does not want to be heard. as everyone is desperate to see only good feedback about this coin so the price goes up, as they are all obviously investors.
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August 25, 2014, 06:14:35 PM |
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But you made your point. Then you made your point again and again and again. We hear you loud and clear. The devs and moolah are holding their coins long term because they believe in the coin. That means less coins on the market. We get it.
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August 25, 2014, 06:15:14 PM |
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this coin should never ever have dropped below ICO price. if the devs were competent this wouldn't have happened, but there were unexperienced and clear amateurs. it makes ZERO sense that investors are down $227,000 and devs are up $994,000 usd. its just pure greed.
complete failure, the whole point of an ICO was so that people actually make money.
Well u FUDers have done a great job. Hope you guys have made good money out from this. i apologize if i come across as aggressive or a FUDDER. i myself do not hold any more SYS and don't plan on it. im just trying to reach out to the community to show them the truth. but i feel the truth does not want to be heard. as everyone is desperate to see only good feedback about this coin so the price goes up, as they are all obviously investors. And I am planning to reach out to your mum to tell her what a bum you are.
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