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April 29, 2014, 07:20:42 PM
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Contest is now on 99designs.com: https://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/monero-mro-cryptocurrency-logo-design-contest-382486

Monero is new cryptocurrency based on the CryptoNote protocol. It's not a descendent of Bitcoin and uses new cryptography (ring signatures) to give a high degree of anonymity by obscuring identities with decentralized mixing. You can read all about it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0

Monero is looking for a logo and will pay a bounty to the winning designer. There's no set end date for submissions. The coin is primarily about privacy and the name is derived from the language Esperanto, but you don't have to incorporate either of those things. Something minimalistic is fine. The main component we're looking for is the coin design (i.e. like Bitcoin's white B in an orange circle), but a circular design is not mandated. A stylized rendering of the word Monero is entirely optional.

We will probably decide by discussion in the IRC channel since a forum vote is prone to ballot stuffing by new accounts. If selected, you may still be asked to tweak and play around with the fonts/color schemes before finalizing for usage.
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April 30, 2014, 08:19:04 AM
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Plain and simple. I can add fancy circle, colors and icon styles later :=)


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I have seen this somewhere Cheesy

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 I didn't. Bad luck. I hope we will see something better.

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Hello all,


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Here is my submission for the BMR/MRO logo:
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I have two submissions:

(1) Started with Esperanto flag in a coin and then did a path offset to create a 45-degree M in the bottom right corner:
https://i.imgur.com/qwKF8bh.png

(2) Started with 1st coin, took out the star and transformed the inside of the 45-degree M to look like a lock:
https://i.imgur.com/GgFbM4e.png
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Here are my submissions:



High-res:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/i8rg8m3k07ruxmm/monero-logo_2%20%282%29.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wawv727x1u6b9ti/monero-logo_1%20%282%29.png

I orientated my logo at the Esperanto logo, just 90° turned and with "m" instead of "e". And the hat in the second variation is to symbolize the anonymity

Hope u like it Smiley

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Here is my submission for the BMR/MRO logo:
http://s25.postimg.org/l6gq3wewf/monero2222.png

The eye thing is kind of awkward for me. Any reason you put it there? Looks clean though!
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What happened here? It looks like the middle of the picture is missing?
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I have two submissions:

(1) Started with Esperanto flag in a coin and then did a path offset to create a 45-degree M in the bottom right corner:
https://i.imgur.com/qwKF8bh.png

(2) Started with 1st coin, took out the star and transformed the inside of the 45-degree M to look like a lock:
https://i.imgur.com/GgFbM4e.png

1: It looks pretty good, but I don't think anyone here is looking to emphasize Esperanto itself. The name choice seems like more of a play on the idea that it's an auxiliary language meant to serve as neutral ground to provide an equal footing for anyone looking to discuss whatever issues they have. Much like this currency can be used to allow the trading of value-for-value entirely across the world . . without any of the barriers that are apparent with your fiat alternatives.

2: You make lock-and-key look nice for this coin, but it's becoming increasingly harder to get a "look" that makes this distinct amongst the increasing pile of other lock-and-key designs all the other coins use. I just feel like the idea has become ubiquitous . . especially in a landscape based on cryptography.
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Here are my submissions:
https://i.imgur.com/rxLwvJj.png
https://i.imgur.com/N2yS5CM.png

High-res:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dqws5at767wkpel/monero-logo_2%20%282%29.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xahndryoh1hxj3m/monero-logo_1%20%282%29.png

I orientated my logo at the Esperanto logo, just 90° turned and with "m" instead of "e". And the hat in the second variation is to symbolize the anonymity

Hope u like it Smiley

I like that the image in the center can be taken as both a B for bitmonero, or M for monero, or E for esperanto. It's got a nice symmetry to it that I can easily identify to all three of those things -- this is key for a logo. Have you thought about varying the colors? The green-on-green looks doesn't contrast great and would be harder to see what the logo is at smaller resolutions. Also, I feel like the green-white or full green look I see come up a lot has already been played out with Vertcoin.

I'm really not following you with the hat . . could you explain this a little more? I'm not seeing the symbolism.

Awesome ideas!
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Bang for ya buck  Cheesy
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Here is a cross post from the old thread:


This is a cool idea. I feel like the orange you used takes too much from both bitcoin and bytecoin, any other color ideas? Also, the $ in the middle -- can you change it to the M with bars in it I've seen come up numerous times? I think that would look nice, what do you think?



I'm digging the liberal use of stars! But, they seem to be bottom-heavy and that leaves half of the image feeling light with the one lonely little star on top. Any reasoning for the stars?
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my submission inspired by Esperanto jubilee symbol
https://i.imgur.com/dClsUEf.jpg

I like this one a lot. Again, the green-on-green is already kind of played out by Vertcoin. I feel like the shapes would play on the contrast well with smaller sizes you provided.

Not that this coloring is a bad idea, more that I think people will think of Vertcoin before Monero here. It looks very simple and clean -- symmetry seems to stand out a lot better with shapes instead of letters.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb_RYwDvCzo     Smiley
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Tried to incorporate a mask into the coin:

https://i.imgur.com/s9bGUDz.png
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What happened here? It looks like the middle of the picture is missing?

A problem with hoster ?



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Made a revision to the mask logo -- think it looks cleaner than the last one:
https://i.imgur.com/QNIjYAf.png
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May 04, 2014, 01:23:07 AM
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So we now have 2 topics with logo contest? That's crazy and not a proper way to promote coin... They should be merged.

Anyway I'm still voting for this:
my submission inspired by Esperanto jubilee symbol


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Here my 2nd submission. A bit more metallic and minimalistic:


High-res
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lj92sxg4umtzjla/monero-logo%202.png



I like that the image in the center can be taken as both a B for bitmonero, or M for monero, or E for esperanto. It's got a nice symmetry to it that I can easily identify to all three of those things -- this is key for a logo. Have you thought about varying the colors? The green-on-green looks doesn't contrast great and would be harder to see what the logo is at smaller resolutions. Also, I feel like the green-white or full green look I see come up a lot has already been played out with Vertcoin.

I'm really not following you with the hat . . could you explain this a little more? I'm not seeing the symbolism.

Awesome ideas!

Tomorrow I will try to recolor it maybe, but - unlike you - I don't immediately get associations with Vertcoin as long as it is not white-green or dark green

The hat thingy: FOr me anonymity got always represented with either a padlock or a black person with a hat and maybe a question mark all over the face, like this

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Sunday morning hangover drafts.

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hope you choke on dicks.

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Like the second one, but its cryptonote, not cryptonight
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The eye thing is kind of awkward for me. Any reason you put it there? Looks clean though!
I agree about eye, made it less active for convenience.
"M" crossed out or closes the eye (supervision). It represents the anonymity of transactions in the system.

From simple to complex:)
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The eye thing is kind of awkward for me. Any reason you put it there? Looks clean though!
I agree about eye, made it less active for convenience.
"M" crossed out or closes the eye (supervision). It represents the anonymity of transactions in the system.

From simple to complex:)


I like the no1 Smiley
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not bad Smiley Though i dont like orange. Maybe something like black/dark silver?
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not bad Smiley Though i dont like orange. Maybe something like black/dark silver?



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How about this: clean and serious, suggesting ideas like transmission, electricity, speed, and ephemerality.


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How about this: clean and serious, suggesting ideas like transmission, electricity, speed, and ephemerality.


looks like the new myriad logo

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not bad Smiley Though i dont like orange. Maybe something like black/dark silver?



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Personally that is just fine for me Smiley
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Yes, I think it was a problem with the hoster. It shows up now.

I'm drawn to your key-design, not really sure why. It looks great -- maybe the metallic look and the happy looking shape of the M?

The way you designed the shield design makes me think of warner brothers. It's a cool look, but I still think of them first.
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Made a revision to the mask logo -- think it looks cleaner than the last one:
https://i.imgur.com/QNIjYAf.png

I think this change makes the face look sexy/alluring rather than intimidating, definitely an improvement with the friendly matching "monero". Just an idea here -- every time I see the letter "B" now I think of bitcoin. Anyone think that it would be beneficial to claim the "M" or "m" in a similar fashion? Is that already done?

The mask is pretty cool, immediately can associate with parts of the protocol that makes the coin.
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Here my 2nd submission. A bit more metallic and minimalistic:
https://i.imgur.com/KYcTRls.png

High-res
https://www.dropbox.com/s/clr49weur0z9x5w/monero-logo%202.png



I like that the image in the center can be taken as both a B for bitmonero, or M for monero, or E for esperanto. It's got a nice symmetry to it that I can easily identify to all three of those things -- this is key for a logo. Have you thought about varying the colors? The green-on-green looks doesn't contrast great and would be harder to see what the logo is at smaller resolutions. Also, I feel like the green-white or full green look I see come up a lot has already been played out with Vertcoin.

I'm really not following you with the hat . . could you explain this a little more? I'm not seeing the symbolism.

Awesome ideas!

Tomorrow I will try to recolor it maybe, but - unlike you - I don't immediately get associations with Vertcoin as long as it is not white-green or dark green

The hat thingy: FOr me anonymity got always represented with either a padlock or a black person with a hat and maybe a question mark all over the face, like this

I got it now, it's been a long time since I've seen that image though. We could totally bring it back! Thanks for explaining.

Yeah, I was being a little too into it when I said that it reminds me with Vertcoin .. more that it reminds me of St. Patrcik's Day .. makes me associate with luck, and of course money Smiley

The new color scheme you have makes me think futuristic, which is pretty great!
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Coloring like Stablecoin! This makes me feel like the nostalgia is now within my reach. SBC made similar promises to what this coin offers, but the dev was unfortunately not able to deliver due to life taking precedence.

This with the over-emphasized M makes me feel like I'm taking part in something big, powerful and exciting.
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I like the green esperanto and the metallic lock logo.

The green esperato logo is really stylish and reference to esperanto. Great!
The idea of a lock in the logo is also nice Smiley Can't decide at the moment

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The eye thing is kind of awkward for me. Any reason you put it there? Looks clean though!
I agree about eye, made it less active for convenience.
"M" crossed out or closes the eye (supervision). It represents the anonymity of transactions in the system.

From simple to complex:)
http://s25.postimg.org/mg19qla0f/monero2224.png

The de-emphasis revision brings out the M much better! I'm no longer constantly looking at the eye Smiley

This might shift the undertone to that of being constantly watched for some though, but as usual it's probably just me that has that thought.

I like the highlighted 'one', that's fantastic. Nice play here includes the sign being MRO, and that 'one' is left just works nice in my head. Like MRO is designed for me.

Out of the three, #1 stands out the most.
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First thought here is that I've won something. I feel like I'm winning every time I look at this. Even better is that nothing about the image says that there's a catch, just pure winning Smiley

The texturing on your second one makes me think of a record. Nobody can put down that they sound the best.
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I would suggest not to add the word "coin" on the logo.

"monero + coin" is a pleonasm... (something like "money coin"

And the word "coin" is confusing because we are not dealing with physical coins, just "money" Wink

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I think most of you guys are a bit too fixated on "coins". Reading through through the Monero thread, it feels a bit like Darkcoin at the beginning, technology first, design second, which is a good thing if you ask me. Monero is more than just another "coin" it seems, it needs to have a distinctive professional logo which inspires confidence. Here are my first two quick concepts which I'm going to be working on. The colors and designs aren't final (at all) so I'll be putting more work into them with feedback from this thread.



 


And one which is a lot easier to recognize but still retains a unique character (monero font isn't final)




Let me know what you think. Personally, I think I'm moving in the right direction design wise, these are the kinds of logos which will help make Monero a huge hit by helping it distinguish itself from simple "coins"


edit: I definitely think the "M" used is very distinctive for the official Monero "M"




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May 06, 2014, 11:02:10 AM
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I think most of you guys are a bit too fixated on "coins". Reading through through the Monero thread, it feels a bit like Darkcoin at the beginning, technology first, design second, which is a good thing if you ask me. Monero is more than just another "coin" it seems, it needs to have a distinctive professional logo which inspires confidence. Here are my first two quick concepts which I'm going to be working on. The colors and designs aren't final (at all) so I'll be putting more work into them with feedback from this thread.





And one which is a lot easier to recognize but still retains a unique character (monero font isn't final)




Let me know what you think. Personally, I think I'm moving in the right direction design wise, these are the kinds of logos which will help make Monero a huge hit by helping it distinguish itself from simple "coins"


edit: I definitely think the "M" used is very distinctive for the official Monero "M"





Im loving what you have come up with. You are definitely in the right direction. I have some feedback though. Monero emphasizes on being the most anonymous currency till now. Every transaction is completely stealth. Would like to see some privacy inspired design. Like someone did a shield design. And yeah, would love to see something in combination of gray with red,blue or green
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I think most of you guys are a bit too fixated on "coins". Reading through through the Monero thread, it feels a bit like Darkcoin at the beginning, technology first, design second, which is a good thing if you ask me. Monero is more than just another "coin" it seems, it needs to have a distinctive professional logo which inspires confidence. Here are my first two quick concepts which I'm going to be working on. The colors and designs aren't final (at all) so I'll be putting more work into them with feedback from this thread.



 


And one which is a lot easier to recognize but still retains a unique character (monero font isn't final)




Let me know what you think. Personally, I think I'm moving in the right direction design wise, these are the kinds of logos which will help make Monero a huge hit by helping it distinguish itself from simple "coins"


edit: I definitely think the "M" used is very distinctive for the official Monero "M"





Im loving what you have come up with. You are definitely in the right direction. I have some feedback though. Monero emphasizes on being the most anonymous currency till now. Every transaction is completely stealth. Would like to see some privacy inspired design. Like someone did a shield design. And yeah, would love to see something in combination of gray with red,blue or green

Are those simply colours you like or are they from some other logo? As far as the padlocks and shields, we went through all that on the new darkcoin logo, it didn't look too good after all was said and done but I'll try something new.

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Let me know what you think. Personally, I think I'm moving in the right direction design wise, these are the kinds of logos which will help make Monero a huge hit by helping it distinguish itself from simple "coins"


edit: I definitely think the "M" used is very distinctive for the official Monero "M"

Wow
First 2 look epic!

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Thanks a lot to all of people who vote for my submission!!!
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hey guys, is the bounty still valid?
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What happened here? It looks like the middle of the picture is missing?

A problem with hoster ?





Wow dude.... those logos are out of this world!!! They are ABSOLUTELY stunning.

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hey guys, is the bounty still valid?

Yes. The more submission the better. Smiley
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What happened here? It looks like the middle of the picture is missing?

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Wow dude.... those logos are out of this world!!! They are ABSOLUTELY stunning.



the first one is so great
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What happened here? It looks like the middle of the picture is missing?

A problem with hoster ?





Thats cool!

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not bad Smiley
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The four logo I like:

1. The Esperanto-inspired logo, because it relates to something. Other just "look cool" (or not) without any explanation behind it. I don't like the logo itself though, Just the idea to give some meaning to the logo (here, Esperanto is a good idea)


2. "The illusion of a M", for its creativeness. But I looks bulky, heavy, not something I'd like to see in a currency (except if you are talking of the currency of ancient Sparta, which was deliberately difficult to handle)

3. This one is esthatically the one I like the most, but it looks like a superhero logo. Not that kind of feeling I want to convey on a curency


4. Finally, the more classic is the one I am considering the most, at the moment. Granted, it could be refined (you can get a nicer font, a sans-serif would be more adapted


So, to sum it up;
- Logo with a meaning
- Not "in-your-face" logo. This is a currency, not a videogame
- Try to make it creative, like the "illusion of a M"

On top of this: this is only about the logo. You can propose a slogan, but it won't be part of the choice and if the logo is adopted, the slogan could not be - and the other way around,n a slogan could be adopted without the logo to accepted).

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OP put on the header what is the bounty in MRO or/and BTC Wink



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So far this is my favorite!
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Hello all,
I made few designs, here is the first one. It is very simple: m with a small coin. It is shown in color, negative and black-white version. I like blue here, but it also functions in any other color.

http://zadaraccommodation.com/monero/monero_blue.jpg
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Another attempt where elements of "m" are line of same shapes (value of monero is endless)

http://zadaraccommodation.com/monero/monero_blue_2.jpg
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Two is made of two overlapping coins (not too obvious) with negative space which defines m.


http://zadaraccommodation.com/monero/monero_orange_3.jpg
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My favorite:). Any color can do, but this is rich, strong and vivid!

http://zadaraccommodation.com/monero/monero_orange_4.jpg
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What happened here? It looks like the middle of the picture is missing?

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Wow dude.... those logos are out of this world!!! They are ABSOLUTELY stunning.



the first one is so great

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super simple app type of logo, works in any color and size

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Thanks!
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Maybe more classic?
- It is not a round logo
- The shield seems to me to be appropriate
- It's clean and simple
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I win



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Maybe more classic?
- It is not a round logo
- The shield seems to me to be appropriate
- It's clean and simple

The logo fills my requirements (meaningful although a bit too in-your-face but that's OK). But I don't like the retrofuture look of the font. I would favour something more rounded. Maybe not "serif" but less "fantasy". Probably a classical, especially a humanist or a garalde, because they'd convey a feeling of calm a "reassurance" that I find both original among all the mechanistic and lineal fonts and appealling for a crypto which is all about being protected (shield)
My favourite so far.
Syris, you raised up the ante!

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Maybe more classic?
- It is not a round logo
- The shield seems to me to be appropriate
- It's clean and simple

Very very cool - can you make the font less "sci-fi" and more accessible?

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Update:
The logo fills my requirements but me neither I don't like the retrofuture look of the font. I would favour something more rounded. Maybe not "serif" but less "fantasy". Probably a classical, especially a humanist or a garalde, because they'd convey a feeling of calm a "reassurance" that I find both original among all the mechanistic and lineal fonts and appealling for a crypto which is all about being protected (shield)

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how about next time you put some sort of requirement in the first post, so ppl in here don't come up with useless concepts. apart from that i disagree with the direction you want to steer this.

i'm out, gl everyone.
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Tanks all Smiley

Font test :



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Original :

Modified version (more visible) :
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full size 2000x1400 https://i.imgur.com/RYbq7IU.png

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great logo's  Grin

This bounty is insanely large BTW, for a logo Tongue
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And the "favicon" in 50x50px :



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why not something with the all seeing eye crossed out.
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bigger version https://i.imgur.com/qx8N3GC.png

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great logo's  Grin

This bounty is insanely large BTW, for a logo Tongue
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When this topic was created, the value of 600 MRO was around 0.15 BTC. Now it's around 1 BTC - a 6x increase! So yeah, the total bounty is unintentionally very high. I guess this is the problem with a contest that doesn't end in a short time.

One of the pledgers is actually thankful_for_today (from back in mid-April), and I don't know where he disappeared off to. So that leaves the collectible payment at 300 MRO, which is probably a fairer price anyway. If thankful_for_today shows up, of course the +300 can be paid as well. The main post should reflect this, though.
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bigger version 2000x1200 https://i.imgur.com/yXuNVdL.png


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Font test :
Please add the name of the font. You can change the fond later, it is just to make it easier to say which one we prefer.

Excellent idea to simulate what it would be on coinmarketcap.

I like the ones at the bottom (the ones above look like someone angrily staring at you). Maybe the right one more than the left one. Could you give a 50x50 px icon and also a simulation of what it would be on coinmarketcap?

About the small icons: usually, smaller icons require redrawing. Syris, could give the link of the "simple reduction" and the "adapted reduction" for your logo proposal? It would help people better understand what I mean. Thank you.


bigger version 2000x1200 https://i.imgur.com/yXuNVdL.png


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2MB https://i.imgur.com/FR30POA.gif
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Wait, are you part of Monero David? Or are you still on the official Mint team?
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Wait, are you part of Monero David? Or are you still on the official Mint team?
Both. And still working on the Mintcoin Fund, check my latest posts on the Mintcoin thread.
othe is also in two coins (monero and vertcoin)

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Font test :
Please add the name of the font. You can change the fond later, it is just to make it easier to say which one we prefer.

I edited with the name of the font!
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Made another logo with 2 variants:



High res:
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I love it!
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Nice, Quanttek. What if the key were below the text i.e. attached at the bottom of the M instead of the top? I don't know if it would be better, but it's worth testing and getting feedback. Underlined text looks more "normal" than overlined.

Also, maybe equalize the white space between the M/O and R/O to the same as between the other letters (increase them or decrease the others).
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super simple app type of logo, works in any color and size



The best for me.
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I like the ones at the bottom (the ones above look like someone angrily staring at you). Maybe the right one more than the left one. Could you give a 50x50 px icon and also a simulation of what it would be on coinmarketcap?

Ok. Agree, but the left one for size 50x50 looks better, I think so, because the black/shadow background pointing out the form "M" very well.
"cryptonote" had to be removed for the 50x50 size to complement the composition.
That's what happened:
Edited old version and new:

On coinmarket:

And on poloniex for review:

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good one - would like to see the o n e r closer to the top line that it actually looks like a key but anyway
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had some time today




e: still some pixels to push for perfection
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good one - would like to see the o n e r closer to the top line that it actually looks like a key but anyway

I orientated my key more at this kind of keys

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Nice, Quanttek. What if the key were below the text i.e. attached at the bottom of the M instead of the top? I don't know if it would be better, but it's worth testing and getting feedback. Underlined text looks more "normal" than overlined.

Also, maybe equalize the white space between the M/O and R/O to the same as between the other letters (increase them or decrease the others).

Followed you adviced with the text and M above, but it didn't worked out. It looked strange. Here a screenshot (no styles, just pure forms, also a bit buggy, because I forgot to delete the reflections before closing and discarding changes)

But still followed the advice of equalizing the space between the letters.

So here is the new logo:





I couldn't decide how I should do the lightnig so two variants

High-res

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tzpy1bejxag1m78/monero%20key%20logo.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i0q7sdprtcnt9e7/monero%20key%20logo%203.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vpcb850ahmp9ffn/monero%20key%20logo%202.png

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Please not this, every time I see it the first word that comes to mind is "Boner".
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Check this guy's logo out: http://mattiamesaglio.it/

It's clean, modern, and has quite a mysterious quality to it which ties in nicely with Monero's anonymous transaction feature. It would also look good and memorable as an app icon on a mobile phone.

I have no logo making skills, but if someone can do something similar....
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Please not this, every time I see it the first word that comes to mind is "Boner".

Well... That's a problem I can't help you with Cheesy

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Check this guy's logo out: http://mattiamesaglio.it/

It's clean, modern, and has quite a mysterious quality to it which ties in nicely with Monero's anonymous transaction feature. It would also look good and memorable as an app icon on a mobile phone.

I have no logo making skills, but if someone can do something similar....

I'm a fan of flat, ultra-minimalist designs like this. Bitcoin was simple and it worked.

Also, all submissions should propose a "button"-like graphic since that's what represents the currency on exchanges, rankings, payment processors, etc. It can be circular or something else entirely (like syris's shield). A stylized rendering of the word Monero to go along with this is optional.
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super simple app type of logo, works in any color and size



Something I would find interesting is the last design here from sadface, but with a more aggressive M (that one looks somewhat submissive because of the sloped corners). Perhaps like the one syris used in his shield earlier or the very clean one Bosco pointed out.

Another thing to try would be what I described above, but with the M being black in a white background enclosed in a black ring ("ring signature" being a core technology of this coin, heh).
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I also like sadface's logos. the one on the right especially. I hope you don't mind, I stretched out the legs on the M so folks can see how it might look:



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Some very nice work in this thread, keep it up!
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hey!

thanks for the kind words everyone! Is this going to be a community vote, or will the devs/foundation or so decide ?
It's hard to tell what direction this logo should take.

I'll play around with the legs/shape, thx!

edit: actually pull the m's legs a bit down, it already looks like a roman soldier's helmet.

haha, didn't even see that till you mentioned it Smiley
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(https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYzvrn6M.png&t=540&c=xaIMTYaFw8TSjQ)

I couldn't decide how I should do the lightnig so two variants

Very interesting idea, Quanttek.
Maybe with white/light shade would look better.
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hey!

thanks for the kind words everyone! Is this going to be a community vote, or will the devs/foundation or so decide ?
It's hard to tell what direction this logo should take.

I'll play around with the legs/shape, thx!

edit: actually pull the m's legs a bit down, it already looks like a roman soldier's helmet.

haha, didn't even see that till you mentioned it Smiley

yeah me neither, only when i looked at it some more. it reminds me of an xmen cover i seen somewhere in my youth.

maybe this gives some inspiration:
https://www.google.com/search?q=x+men+helmet&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=TDh3U4PRE4Tb7AapioGoDQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=2133&bih=1133&dpr=0.9#q=magneto's+helmet&tbm=isch&imgdii=_

other than that it's already awesome work. very very well done!
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Nice upgrade of one of my previous favourites. We'll, a bit gangsta-style, I'd say.

Ok. Agree, but the left one for size 50x50 looks better, I think so, because the black/shadow background pointing out the form "M" very well.
"cryptonote" had to be removed for the 50x50 size to complement the composition.
That's what happened:
Edited old version and new:

On coinmarket:

And on poloniex for review:
I vote this post as the perfect case study. Other should follow this post when submitting logo (that's MY point of view, not an "official monero team" point of view, though)

Please not this, every time I see it the first word that comes to mind is "Boner".
And for me "Moner". Interesting idea, but I'm not convinced atm.

thanks for the kind words everyone! Is this going to be a community vote, or will the devs/foundation or so decide ?
It's hard to tell what direction this logo should take.
Since monero is all about fairness, at first sight, I'd say community vote, but we have not decided yet. Maybe a preselection by dev then community vote for the remaining shotlist? This is what I did for Mintcoin - You will always get unhappy people but I think we managed to get less than with other methods.

So, in the end, we still don't know for sure the kind of vote it will be.

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Could someone recommend good software for this please? I fancy giving it a shot. Ta.
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Could someone recommend good software for this please? I fancy giving it a shot. Ta.

Either Photoshop / Illustrator or Gimp / Inkscape.
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hey!

thanks for the kind words everyone! Is this going to be a community vote, or will the devs/foundation or so decide ?
It's hard to tell what direction this logo should take.

I'll play around with the legs/shape, thx!

edit: actually pull the m's legs a bit down, it already looks like a roman soldier's helmet.

haha, didn't even see that till you mentioned it Smiley

The trouble with a vote on this forum is that it's very easily stuffed (with puppet accounts). I think we'll have a discussion on the monero IRC channel and if a clear winner doesn't emerge, a roll call-type vote can be held. Quality of votes over quantity of votes.

I agree that there isn't much direction given by this contest, but that's because we didn't really know what we want. Tongue Unlike most projects, this one is sort of community-run rather than centralized so there's lots of different opinions to take into account.
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I like the David's logo.
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This logo has grown on me. So far, this is my favourite.
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playing with the M shape, any opinions ?

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Could you add each logo as an independant picture? Easier for referencing. Also, please change "cryptonote" to "monero" on the first logo.

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playing with the M shape, any opinions ?

I like it. A much stronger 'M'. I prefer the top left:

1. The 'folded strip' effect is lost in the bottom versions.
2. A deeper 'V' in the middle looks better.
3. As do vertical sides.

But I am not a fan of grey. A touch of color? Navy blue-like colors are also dark and regal:

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Could you add each logo as an independant picture? Easier for referencing. Also, please change "cryptonote" to "monero" on the first logo.

Thank you

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really like this design:


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really like this design:



I'd be curious to see some variations on it if the artist has time. For example, a flat (non-shiny) version, one with inverted gold-black, and the same inverted one with silver-black instead of gold.
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Not sure when this logo contest ends... Putting in another submission.

https://i.imgur.com/M9vQZhK.png
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https://i.imgur.com/3IRDIBV.png

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Not sure when this logo contest ends... Putting in another submission.



Ah, finally we have a 'ring'-like logo. Love it.
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These are SICK! 

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I think the people who contributed to the bounty just need to vote now :p
We need a logo Wink

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Here is mine
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The worth of 300 MRO skyrocketed (currently worth something like ~1.0-1.5 BTC vs. ~0.2-0.3 BTC yesterday). As a reference, we can currently buy about 30 professional designs from 99designs for $299 (~0.6 BTC). So at 300 MRO we have no incentive to pick a design from all your hard work here instead of just going to professionals.

Because of this price volatility, I'm going to change the bounty to be a constant value in BTC to be paid out in MRO. You are welcome to withdraw yourself from consideration if this is a problem, but I think this is agreeable (it's just economics and nothing has changed from before in terms of BTC/fiat value).


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The worth of 300 MRO skyrocketed (currently worth something like ~1.0-1.5 BTC vs. ~0.2-0.3 BTC yesterday). As a reference, we can currently buy about 30 professional designs from 99designs for $299 (~0.6 BTC). So at 300 MRO we have no incentive to pick a design from all your hard work here instead of just going to professionals.

Because of this price volatility, I'm going to change the bounty to be a constant value in BTC to be paid out in MRO. You are welcome to withdraw yourself from consideration if this is a problem, but I think this is agreeable (it's just economics and nothing has changed from before in terms of BTC/fiat value).
That's kind of a scummy thing to do ex post facto, just saying.
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The worth of 300 MRO skyrocketed (currently worth something like ~1.0-1.5 BTC vs. ~0.2-0.3 BTC yesterday). As a reference, we can currently buy about 30 professional designs from 99designs for $299 (~0.6 BTC). So at 300 MRO we have no incentive to pick a design from all your hard work here instead of just going to professionals.

Because of this price volatility, I'm going to change the bounty to be a constant value in BTC to be paid out in MRO. You are welcome to withdraw yourself from consideration if this is a problem, but I think this is agreeable (it's just economics and nothing has changed from before in terms of BTC/fiat value).

So I guess your integrity isn't worth 300 MRO either, eh? Because this really isn't acceptable.

Folks, let this be a warning: This is what happens when a "contest" is run without the prize being held in trust or in escrow. Submissions are solicited and browsed, changes are asked for, then suddenly, the people running the contest no longer feel an "incentive" to pay out.

You Monero people should think long and hard about what kind of message you're sending out by doing this. If your sense of greed is so petty that you can't even pay out a reward that has already been promised and presumably put aside, then I don't know how you expect anyone to trust you to develop and foster the growth of a cryptocurrency with any wisdom.

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The worth of 300 MRO skyrocketed (currently worth something like ~1.0-1.5 BTC vs. ~0.2-0.3 BTC yesterday). As a reference, we can currently buy about 30 professional designs from 99designs for $299 (~0.6 BTC). So at 300 MRO we have no incentive to pick a design from all your hard work here instead of just going to professionals.

Because of this price volatility, I'm going to change the bounty to be a constant value in BTC to be paid out in MRO. You are welcome to withdraw yourself from consideration if this is a problem, but I think this is agreeable (it's just economics and nothing has changed from before in terms of BTC/fiat value).
That's kind of a scummy thing to do ex post facto, just saying.

It's a bait-and-switch, and yeah, it's really, really slimy.

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As a reference, we can currently buy about 30 professional designs from 99designs for $299 (~0.6 BTC).

You know what, FUCK OFF and go get your 30 designs from there, then.

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The worth of 300 MRO skyrocketed (currently worth something like ~1.0-1.5 BTC vs. ~0.2-0.3 BTC yesterday). As a reference, we can currently buy about 30 professional designs from 99designs for $299 (~0.6 BTC). So at 300 MRO we have no incentive to pick a design from all your hard work here instead of just going to professionals.

Because of this price volatility, I'm going to change the bounty to be a constant value in BTC to be paid out in MRO. You are welcome to withdraw yourself from consideration if this is a problem, but I think this is agreeable (it's just economics and nothing has changed from before in terms of BTC/fiat value).
That's kind of a scummy thing to do ex post facto, just saying.

I completely agree. Hence the statement that anyone is free to withdraw. But Econ 101: at 300 MRO, we would abandon all designs in this thread for obvious reasons -- we can trivially just hire professionals at a lower price. This way, at least someone *might* win and get paid rather than 0% chance.

Even if it was held in escrow, there's a simple problem - we always had the right to walk out by declaring no logo was worth it. And indeed, at 300 MRO (~$500-600) no logo is worth it. There's no violation unless a design is used without paying out.
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The worth of 300 MRO skyrocketed (currently worth something like ~1.0-1.5 BTC vs. ~0.2-0.3 BTC yesterday). As a reference, we can currently buy about 30 professional designs from 99designs for $299 (~0.6 BTC). So at 300 MRO we have no incentive to pick a design from all your hard work here instead of just going to professionals.

Because of this price volatility, I'm going to change the bounty to be a constant value in BTC to be paid out in MRO. You are welcome to withdraw yourself from consideration if this is a problem, but I think this is agreeable (it's just economics and nothing has changed from before in terms of BTC/fiat value).
That's kind of a scummy thing to do ex post facto, just saying.

I completely agree. Hence the statement that anyone is free to withdraw. But Econ 101: at 300 MRO, we would abandon all designs in this thread for obvious reasons -- we can trivially just hire professionals at a lower price. This way, at least *someone* wins and gets paid.

Even if it was held in escrow, there's a simple problem - we always had the right to walk out by declaring no logo was worth it. And indeed, at 300 MRO no logo is worth it.

You completely agree that you're scummy? Wow. Then WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IT'S ACCEPTABLE? Because, like, money? Because this really hurts the image of a cryptocurrency that claims a buch of lofty ideals.

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Also, if you end up going to "professionals", will they be drawing inspiration from the seven pages of designs that you've already solicited at no cost?

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Discussed with the stakeholders (i.e. the bounty funders) and it's been decided that ending it with no award is the preference over changing the terms. We will contract it out with no reference made to any work here (to prevent any usage of your work). This is the only solution consistent with the original terms since it would have happened anyway at this price level.

Yes, Xenopus, it is indeed about money. This is an economic transaction and it has a going rate in the wider market. Below that, the artists have no incentive to sell. Above that, the bounty funders don't have an incentive to buy. The volatility of altcoins makes that messy and the smart thing to do would have been to decide a BTC bounty in the beginning since BTC is the most stable crypto. This was a major mistake on our part.

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And indeed, at 300 MRO (~$500-600) no logo is worth it.

I take no issue with not being happy with the logos in the thread, but as a graphic designer I take offense to that. Steve Jobs paid 100 grand for the Next logo from Paul Rand. The Nike swoosh is so iconic it is a multi-million dollar image. Logos are the most vital part of any brand's identity.

Obviously Monero is not Apple computers or Nike but you get what you pay for, if you want to go pay some Filipino kid 99 dollars to do a cut and paste logo on a pirated copy of photoshop that won't even probably be specced right for a four color press or be in vector format, well you will get what you pay for.

I just hate how our industry is so undervalued and shitted on all the time, there are guys who get paid more mowing lawns than designers who will work tirelessly into the night to create a presentation that could net a company a 200k contract and we never get any appreciation for it, it sucks.  
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And indeed, at 300 MRO (~$500-600) no logo is worth it. There's no violation unless a design is used without paying out.

I take no issue with not being happy with the logos in the thread, but as a graphic designer I take offense to that. Steve Jobs paid 100 grand for the Next logo from Paul Rand. The Nike swoosh is so iconic it is a multi-million dollar image. Logos are the most vital part of any brand's identity.

Obviously Monero is not Apple computers or Nike but you get what you pay for, if you want to go pay some Filipino kid 99 dollars to do a cut and paste logo on a pirated copy of photoshop that won't even probably be specced right for a four color press, well you will get what you pay for.

I just hate how our industry is so undervalued and shitted on all the time, there are guys who get paid more mowing lawns than designers who will work tirelessly into the night to create a presentation that could net a company a 200k contract and we never get any appreciation for it, it sucks.  

There's no doubt that there are logos worth millions and that quality scales with price. I do think there are good designs here, but the ideal situation is to have many to pick from. This thread didn't attract enough attention and the number of submission turned out be pretty low.

Couple this with the fact that today's logos are the same as yesterday's logos -- yet the price paid by the donators went up by a factor of 5, which no one could have predicted. There's a responsibility to get the best deal for the donators since it's all voluntary. One possible choice is to wait for the new attention and the unusually high bounty to produce more logos, but it's quicker to contract it out at this point. This was obviously not the intended path when the contest started.

As for graphic designers being underpaid, I broadly agree. But as an open-source project relying on donations, we take the going rate.
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There's no doubt that there are logos worth millions and that quality scales with price. I do think there are good designs here, but the ideal situation is to have many to pick from. This thread didn't attract enough attention and the number of submission turned out be pretty low.

Couple this with the fact that today's logos are the same as yesterday's logos -- yet the price paid by the donators went up by a factor of 5, which no one could have predicted. There's a responsibility to get the best deal for the donators since it's all voluntary. One choice is to wait for the new attention and the unusually high bounty to produce more logos, but it's quicker to contract it out at this point. This was obviously not the intended path when the contest started.

So are you willing to revise the obscenely high 2600 MRO bounty for the gui wallet then? After all, its just a wallet skin, right? I'm sure you could find a Polish programmer who would do it for 1 btc.
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So are you willing to revise the obscenely high 2600 MRO bounty for the gui wallet then? After all, its just a wallet skin, right? I'm sure you could find a Polish programmer who would do it for 1 btc.

It's actually coding, not skinning, and a lot of it. The difficulty of implementing a cross-platform wallet is massive and there are relatively few that could do it. Bitcoin-Qt, for example, was Bitcoin's third client. We were thinking about raising that bounty to attract someone. Prior to the price rise, it was way underfunded and may still be. Supply-demand problem.
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Some quick attempts based on the ring signatures:





Oh wait contest closed, nevermind!

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I hope this is an exception, because I wanted to correct my logo based on a suggestion from davidlatapie.





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Discussed with the stakeholders (i.e. the bounty funders) and it's been decided that ending it with no award is the preference over changing the terms. We will contract it out with no reference made to any work here (to prevent any usage of your work). This is the only solution consistent with the original terms since it would have happened anyway at this price level.

Yes, Xenopus, it is indeed about money. This is an economic transaction and it has a going rate in the wider market. Below that, the artists have no incentive to sell. Above that, the bounty funders don't have an incentive to buy. The volatility of altcoins makes that messy and the smart thing to do would have been to decide a BTC bounty in the beginning since BTC is the most stable crypto. This was a major mistake on our part.

Thanks for wasting everyone's time, jackass.

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"So yeah, we had a contest but the prize is too big now so we are canceling the contest. Thank you for the free design ideas!"
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Discussed with the stakeholders (i.e. the bounty funders) and it's been decided that ending it with no award is the preference over changing the terms. We will contract it out with no reference made to any work here (to prevent any usage of your work). This is the only solution consistent with the original terms since it would have happened anyway at this price level.

Yes, Xenopus, it is indeed about money. This is an economic transaction and it has a going rate in the wider market. Below that, the artists have no incentive to sell. Above that, the bounty funders don't have an incentive to buy. The volatility of altcoins makes that messy and the smart thing to do would have been to decide a BTC bounty in the beginning since BTC is the most stable crypto. This was a major mistake on our part.

Thanks for wasting everyone's time, jackass.

Lol what a fucking bad move.

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May 20, 2014, 05:50:43 AM
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A design contest will be up on 99designs soon. You're all welcome to submit/re-submit to that. The payout is significantly higher than what was planned here. As I said, the issue is not with paying a designer, but in the low number of submissions we got here. Desired features are also much more well-defined.
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May 20, 2014, 05:58:13 AM
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A design contest will be up on 99designs soon. You're all welcome to submit/re-submit to that. The payout is significantly higher than what was planned here. As I said, the issue is not with paying a designer, but in the low number of submissions we got here. Desired features are also much more well-defined.

Dude, you got over 60 designs!

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May 20, 2014, 06:00:10 AM
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Apparently you think a pump is a true measure of your coins worth.  

If you don't realize that a pool of 1-2 mil jumps from coin to  coin looking for their next hit... than you deserve the shitty price MRO will be worth.

This month alone. Xbc, xlc, naut, cinni, vrc, sc, drm, xbl, pig, badger, on and on...

Get your heads out of your asses and pay ppl what they are worth. All you have left after the dump is hard work and your public profile. Blackcoin has suffered immensely from the bitch fight with iconic.

Think about it.
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May 20, 2014, 06:02:33 AM
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And... if you cant afford $500 then your coin is already doomed.
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May 20, 2014, 06:17:39 AM
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Launched! $300 prize or 300 MRO, 7 days total: https://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/monero-mro-cryptocurrency-logo-design-contest-382486

Submissions have to be through this site and we definitely welcome resubmitting. The initial submission phase is 4 days before finalists are picked. Good luck!
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May 20, 2014, 06:22:42 AM
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Apparently you think a pump is a true measure of your coins worth.  

If you don't realize that a pool of 1-2 mil jumps from coin to  coin looking for their next hit... than you deserve the shitty price MRO will be worth.

This month alone. Xbc, xlc, naut, cinni, vrc, sc, drm, xbl, pig, badger, on and on...

Get your heads out of your asses and pay ppl what they are worth. All you have left after the dump is hard work and your public profile. Blackcoin has suffered immensely from the bitch fight with iconic.

Think about it.

I'm perfectly familiar with the altcoin space and its pumps and dumps. But any financial asset is worth what it is in the immediate market (accounting for liquidity). The contest is actually for roughly the same amount ($500) as we were debating here, but because the number of high-quality submissions are higher through 99designs, this is acceptable. Some nice logos like Counterparty (XCP) came out of this site as well as Peercoin's famous one (though I'm personally not a fan).
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May 20, 2014, 07:04:54 AM
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wow, what a waste. absolutely not acceptable. scammers is what you are.
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May 20, 2014, 07:27:17 AM
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thx for bumping the thread.

you can try to spin this around as much as you want, this is dishonest and contemptuous as it gets. there would have been other ways, but you chose the worst. congrats
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Well, thanks I guess. I was thinking of picking up some monero, but with behavior like this, how could anyone ever trust these clowns?

Good luck with your radical "Fuck the supporters!" management style.
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May 20, 2014, 04:20:37 PM
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wow, what a waste. absolutely not acceptable. scammers is what you are.

Because the contest got upgraded from $130 at the time of your submission to $500 + protected from price volatility (double-edged sword). Tongue

Too bad, I genuinely liked your designs.

You're did a really shitty thing, and instead of apologizing (like, at all) you just shrug and pretend you did nothing wrong.

You have ZERO right dealing out holier-than-thou sass like this people who are upset at your disgraceful behaviour.

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May 20, 2014, 08:08:13 PM
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I was going to get on today to apologize to eizh, I was under the impression the logo bounty was being reduced to 99 dollars, then I saw it was $500 on the site which I think is a fair price so I started working on one. Well lo and behold I go to upload my design and AGAIN it's now been changed now to $300 prize. What next, will it be reduced to $99 tomorrow?

This is all the more reason digital contract technology on the blockchain is going to be huge, it will be harder for clients to pull such shenanigans when there is documentation for every every move in the b2b process.
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I was going to get on today to apologize to eizh, I was under the impression the logo bounty was being reduced to 99 dollars, then I saw it was $500 on the site which I think is a fair price so I started working on one. Well lo and behold I go to upload my design and AGAIN it's now been changed now to $300 prize. What next, will it be reduced to $99 tomorrow?

This is all the more reason digital contract technology on the blockchain is going to be huge, it will be harder for clients to pull such shenanigans when there is documentation for every every move in the b2b process.

Solid, it's $500 (that's what I see on the top right corner). What are you talking about? Does the site keep $200 for itself? If that is the case, I can increase it.

edit: Pretty sure I can't change it now, but you can just take MRO in that case.
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wow, what a waste. absolutely not acceptable. scammers is what you are.

Because the contest got upgraded from $130 at the time of your submission to $500 + protected from price volatility (double-edged sword). Tongue

Too bad, I genuinely liked your designs.

You're did a really shitty thing, and instead of apologizing (like, at all) you just shrug and pretend you did nothing wrong.

You have ZERO right dealing out holier-than-thou sass like this people who are upset at your disgraceful behaviour.

You are right. Moving it to a different venue and asking for artists to resubmit is more of a move than a cancellation so the terms should be kept constant. In light of that, if a previous submission from this forum wins, you have the option to take 300 MRO instead -- fluffypony clarified this in the main thread. This would have to be privately arranged because I'm pretty sure the site just automatically pays out.

Sorry for the clusterfuck. The logic is simple: a forum contest should be cheap because only those who happen to be on this forum are in it, making it relatively noncompetitive. The MRO price went up so it's fair to move to a more competitive venue. When we're talking about something like 99designs.com, you have to beat out a lot more artists and naturally you deserve more, and we're willing to pay that.
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May 20, 2014, 08:33:20 PM
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Yeah, you should have been upfront about this in the opening post. Now is not the time to retroactively change the scope, price, and timeline of the contest.
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May 20, 2014, 08:38:08 PM
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Yeah, you should have been upfront about this in the opening post. Now is not the time to retroactively change the scope, price, and timeline of the contest.

There was never a timeline. The price, I agree.
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May 20, 2014, 08:43:14 PM
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I was going to get on today to apologize to eizh, I was under the impression the logo bounty was being reduced to 99 dollars, then I saw it was $500 on the site which I think is a fair price so I started working on one. Well lo and behold I go to upload my design and AGAIN it's now been changed now to $300 prize. What next, will it be reduced to $99 tomorrow?

This is all the more reason digital contract technology on the blockchain is going to be huge, it will be harder for clients to pull such shenanigans when there is documentation for every every move in the b2b process.

Solid, it's $500 (that's what I see on the top right corner). What are you talking about? Does the site keep $200 for itself? If that is the case, I can increase it.

Posted in other thread but it sounds like they do, sorry to go off accusing you without noticing that.
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May 21, 2014, 12:57:51 AM
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wow, what a waste. absolutely not acceptable. scammers is what you are.

Because the contest got upgraded from $130 at the time of your submission to $500 + protected from price volatility (double-edged sword). Tongue

Too bad, I genuinely liked your designs.

You're did a really shitty thing, and instead of apologizing (like, at all) you just shrug and pretend you did nothing wrong.

You have ZERO right dealing out holier-than-thou sass like this people who are upset at your disgraceful behaviour.

You are right. Moving it to a different venue and asking for artists to resubmit is more of a move than a cancellation so the terms should be kept constant. In light of that, if a previous submission from this forum wins, you have the option to take 300 MRO instead -- fluffypony clarified this in the main thread. This would have to be privately arranged because I'm pretty sure the site just automatically pays out.

Sorry for the clusterfuck. The logic is simple: a forum contest should be cheap because only those who happen to be on this forum are in it, making it relatively noncompetitive. The MRO price went up so it's fair to move to a more competitive venue. When we're talking about something like 99designs.com, you have to beat out a lot more artists and naturally you deserve more, and we're willing to pay that.

I understand. A sincere thanks for making things right.

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May 21, 2014, 07:27:54 AM
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You are right. Moving it to a different venue and asking for artists to resubmit is more of a move than a cancellation so the terms should be kept constant. In light of that, if a previous submission from this forum wins, you have the option to take 300 MRO instead -- fluffypony clarified this in the main thread. This would have to be privately arranged because I'm pretty sure the site just automatically pays out.

Sorry for the clusterfuck. The logic is simple: a forum contest should be cheap because only those who happen to be on this forum are in it, making it relatively noncompetitive. The MRO price went up so it's fair to move to a more competitive venue. When we're talking about something like 99designs.com, you have to beat out a lot more artists and naturally you deserve more, and we're willing to pay that.

I'm not a designer but I'm pretty shocked after reading about this debacle on Twitter.

You should apologize and pay what was promised to the winner.
Retroactively spinning your way out of this by talking about "moving" the competition is not fooling anyone, it's just alienating people more and giving Monero bad PR.
These guys have already done the hard work, far more than 300 monero worth of work at any value of the currency. Try looking for a design agency to submit so many designs for less than 3,000 Monero at its peak value.

If I promised someone some currency to do some work, they did the work, then the currency changed in value AFTER they did the work, I would expect them to take me to court if I didn't pay them. Or at least give me a good kick in the balls.
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May 22, 2014, 04:00:08 AM
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I understand the concern of the designers, they had a better chance to win if they werent competing with professionals, but as MRO got bigger, the reward they were promised got bigger but the desire of a high quality logo of the core team got bigger too ! This is as simple as that. If any of the designers of this thread want to win, they just have to move at 99designs.com. It's less probable they win but the reward just got bigger too. I guess it averages things.

May the best one win!
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May 22, 2014, 05:22:16 PM
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Yeah, transfer of the contest to the 99D is a bit unexpected..

Monero has no premine, and donating is free so collecting the award for contest became difficult.
So, problem that appeared is not simple.
But from the other side people make their part of work and not just for money but for the opportunity to participate in an interesting project (I am sure most part of people). Development of one version takes some time and efforts, thinking about concept, and also analysis of existing logoes and etc..

Transfer to the 99D has some pluses and minuses for all, not for designers from forum.

On 99D I see a lot of similar ideas, as between each other, as to the existing coins (mastercoin, mintcoin, memorycoin and etc.). So devs must pay attention to this.
People on 99D not so acquainted with the world of cryptocurrencies, so a lot of logoes taken from the other projects.

Regarding the risk of fluctuations in the price and the real value of the coin prize, designers also run the risks as you are. A lot of coins depreciate and even disappear just after start.

That all my thoughts about this..

I continue to participate in the competition for 99D. Will transfer my version, I think that monero is one of very interesting project.
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May 22, 2014, 06:34:31 PM
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Submit your Quark logo here

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The worth of 300 MRO skyrocketed (currently worth something like ~1.0-1.5 BTC vs. ~0.2-0.3 BTC yesterday). As a reference, we can currently buy about 30 professional designs from 99designs for $299 (~0.6 BTC). So at 300 MRO we have no incentive to pick a design from all your hard work here instead of just going to professionals.

Because of this price volatility, I'm going to change the bounty to be a constant value in BTC to be paid out in MRO. You are welcome to withdraw yourself from consideration if this is a problem, but I think this is agreeable (it's just economics and nothing has changed from before in terms of BTC/fiat value).
That's kind of a scummy thing to do ex post facto, just saying.

I completely agree. Hence the statement that anyone is free to withdraw. But Econ 101: at 300 MRO, we would abandon all designs in this thread for obvious reasons -- we can trivially just hire professionals at a lower price. This way, at least someone *might* win and get paid rather than 0% chance.

Even if it was held in escrow, there's a simple problem - we always had the right to walk out by declaring no logo was worth it. And indeed, at 300 MRO (~$500-600) no logo is worth it. There's no violation unless a design is used without paying out.

99design is an indian design farm scam that rips off any serious designer, by letting them work countless hours for a terrible ROI. you will get countless preprepared copy paste submissions. instead of supporting our community here, you are now supporting 99designs only. you also have no clue what a professional is worth. in fact you have no clue at all about any of this. sorry i have to tell you this.

i just checked and you imo got terrible submissions and you chose poorly aswell.

all this is completely apart from the fact that you didn't have a clue what you wanted and let everyone here work that out for you. everybody who took part here deserves to be paid for that.
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June 01, 2014, 04:45:37 AM
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Perhaps it could have been worded more clearly in OP, but all submitters in the thread could have submitted their work to the 99designs comp, meaning no work is wasted, just a wider playing field to compete against. Nobody got screwed, and sourcing a bunch of professional designs to compare to the community designs is a smart move. You ended up with a really nice logo. Haters gon' hate.

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June 01, 2014, 05:29:32 AM
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Fantastic logo! It seems the move to 99designs was a good idea in the end. It has enabled the community to have a logo of the same proportion of its ambition!
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Perhaps it could have been worded more clearly in OP, but all submitters in the thread could have submitted their work to the 99designs comp, meaning no work is wasted, just a wider playing field to compete against. Nobody got screwed, and sourcing a bunch of professional designs to compare to the community designs is a smart move. You ended up with a really nice logo. Haters gon' hate.

this is complete bullshit.
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