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May 02, 2014, 05:17:12 PM
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Introduction

On March 31 a small group of dedicated individuals decided that they wanted to create their own crypto currency, NeXT Horizon (NHZ). The goal and vision of NeXT Horizon is simple, create a solid peer-to-peer network that consists of a strong and diversified core network with total anonymization of IP-traffic as well as encryption between peers. This will be achieved by the creation of a strong community who are rewarded for their help with the establishment, growth and acceptance of NeXT Horizon, for example by running public hallmarked NHZ nodes to secure the network.

NeXT Horizon is a fork of NXT and as such will continue to integrate relevant advances from its sister currency while adding and contributing its own enhancements some of which maybe will find their way into NXT.




Proof Of Bounty

You are only as strong as the support you receive from your community. By this we are saying that with the help of dedicated individuals we can accomplish great things. People that help NeXT Horizon with any type of work that is positive for establishment, growth and acceptance will be rewarded. This work can consist of design, marketing, development, economic investment and creating a general good and welcoming feeling within the community.



No Initial Public Offering

There have so far not been any form of initial public offering, IPO, in NeXT Horizon except from two initial investors that helped us with funding for core servers. The developers have not taken out any form of economic compensation for their work although many hours of development and the fact that NeXT Horizon as a crypto currency existed for over a month. We are convinced that Proof Of Bounty in long term will have a positive impact for development and economic establishment of NeXT Horizon as a mainstream digital currency.




Current development

The latest release of NeXT Horizon added a new feature called UPNP (Universal Plug and Play) that will help home users to run a node (hallmark) without knowing how to port forward 7774 through their broadband router, NeXT Horizon will do this for you. Next release of NeXT Horizon will contain a „ready to run“ package of an initial step towards a fully anonymous peer-to-peer network. This work is already underway.



Future plans

Since we believe that massive possibilities resides within the peer-to-peer network we will continue developing services for decentralized computing. Some of these services are as follows.

--Betting and lottery system within the peer-to-peer network.

--Distributed services for scientific calculations (This will probably be bounty based).

--Decentralized exchanges within the peer-to-peer network.

--Decentralization of services such as block explorer, homepage, forum and messaging services to the NeXT Horizon peer-to-peer network. These services will initially be semi-centralized.




Numbers

Current number of hallmarks in NeXT Horizon peer-to-peer network: About 290

Current number of accounts registered(excluding bounty accounts): 245

Current amount of distributed funds: 28 Million NHZ

Current average distribution amount of NHZ per day (one week average): 400 000

Average in distribution amount per day, set as a goal in two months time: 800 000

Assuming this distribution rate is achieved, then the number of coins in circulation will increase at the rate of 2.4% each month, which means the ProofOfBounty will run for approximately 3 years after which rewards will then be solely from forging.




Announcement

We have already received three offers on being listed on a crypto currency exchange. Until now we have turned these offers down. We have though realized that we need a bigger and faster distribution pace than we have had so far. We want to have at least 50 million NHZ distributed before we put our self‘s on an exchange (Current distributed amount is 28 million). Due to the many wishes that we should list NeXT Horizon on an exchange we have decided to sell funds to increase distribution pace. The bitcoin funds that we receive from this sale will solely go to the development, establishment, growth and acceptance of NeXT Horizon. 10% of the raised funds will be donated to a charitable organization by vote on our forum. Any Bitcoins which remain after the distribution phase will be donated likewise.

Everyone should have the chance to get some NHZ from the sale, so we decided to limit the funds available for a buy. We start with a low amount and add more over the next five to 14 days, depending on how fast a chunk is sold.





More information will follow on 2014-05-04.
Happy bounty-hunting!

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May 02, 2014, 06:01:38 PM
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finally you decided you will distribute to all ,  lol . wow , with ipo.......

you know ,you have over 99.5% of all coins before , no one will play with you just only some pool guys..

but now ,you'd better show all your whitepaper ,if you really fix all bug of NXT ,maybe you can keep up with nfd .
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May 02, 2014, 06:39:49 PM
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No thanks. to late.

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May 02, 2014, 06:41:43 PM
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It's neither that we finally decided, nor that we need the BTC as the accounting post in our forum shows.
We said we'll offer that possibility, and here it is - take it or not, this doesn't influence our further dedication.
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May 02, 2014, 06:48:05 PM
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It's neither that we finally decided, nor that we need the BTC as the accounting post in our forum shows.
We said we'll offer that possibility, and here it is - take it or not, this doesn't influence our further dedication.

alright, but no thanks.

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May 02, 2014, 06:57:49 PM
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german thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=593392.0

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May 02, 2014, 07:03:17 PM
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finally you decided you will distribute to all ,  lol . wow , with ipo.......

you know ,you have over 99.5% of all coins before , no one will play with you just only some pool guys..

but now ,you'd better show all your whitepaper ,if you really fix all bug of NXT ,maybe you can keep up with nfd .

You have all the statistics in urls above, read those before you come up with your own statistics. "The bugs of NXT" as you call it, is fixed. The source code is available for public. We were actually the first one to release a fully working fork of NXT and it has been running for over a month. Come-from-beyond even joined us the second day we released the currency and we have talked about these injected flaws and other bugs.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Instead of making a fool out of your self, please contribute, or not.

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May 02, 2014, 07:22:42 PM
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NHZ value can only subjectively be based on the cost of running a node, which can be purchased for about 5 USD per month, or say 10 USD per month (to account for personal maintenance costs). At 666 NHZ per day or about 20,000 NHZ per month, this equates to 0.05 USD per 100 NHZ or about 500 USD per 1 million NHZ. So...

1 bitcoin for 1 million NHZ ?

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May 02, 2014, 07:34:55 PM
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what happened to those node thing Huh
its no good to change the way of distribution after launch.

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May 02, 2014, 07:37:42 PM
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what happened to those node thing Huh
its no good to change the way of distribution after launch.

We haven't changed a thing. The node bounties are still being paid (unchanged).
We are only selling a small percentage of the coins to get on an exchange sooner.
And we have told you guys about that possibility right from the start! Smiley
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May 02, 2014, 07:47:27 PM
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This is a PoS coin with a 3 year distribution but with 'green' mining Smiley

My home PC is quietly earning 666 a day and I know I don't need to go buy a faster PC or an ASIC next month to keep earning 666 Cheesy

Hope the sale goes well and I look forward to seeing some of the other developments.


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May 02, 2014, 07:49:33 PM
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I think its a good idea to sell some percentage of coins to make distribution fast, what will be the price? how many total coins per person can buy?
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I am in. what would be the price?
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5% only for sale, and 95% for bounties, development and building of infrastructure. Nice Smiley

I've seen you guys working since the very beginning and I am very happy to see you keep to the plan and don't go for the big bucks and try to work out something that will be sustainable.

Keeping an eye on this one Nxt clone that seems to try to do their own thing and doesn't give too much of a damn about what other people think.


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May 02, 2014, 08:08:54 PM
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The chinese translation is done.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=593471.msg6513164#msg6513164
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nxt again

what can i do for you?

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I am in. what would be the price?

The price will be about 100 000 NHZ for 0.1 BTC.
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The poll for the donations was created: http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php/topic,97.0.html
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May 02, 2014, 10:20:36 PM
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I get each day 666NHZ running my node. I like this distribution method.

Next Horizon is well-running now for almost one month almost without problems.
NHZ is really existing and not only in the brains of any devs.

The idea of selling a small amount of coins is good! Great work!
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Intresting.
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finally you decided you will distribute to all ,  lol . wow , with ipo.......

you know ,you have over 99.5% of all coins before , no one will play with you just only some pool guys..

but now ,you'd better show all your whitepaper ,if you really fix all bug of NXT ,maybe you can keep up with nfd .

You have all the statistics in urls above, read those before you come up with your own statistics. "The bugs of NXT" as you call it, is fixed. The source code is available for public. We were actually the first one to release a fully working fork of NXT and it has been running for over a month. Come-from-beyond even joined us the second day we released the currency and we have talked about these injected flaws and other bugs.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Instead of making a fool out of your self, please contribute, or not.

Kind regards
release your source code so we can check whether you fixed the bugs ..

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I think the dev should reward the nodes which are on line for a long time..

yes, every day 666coin, it is good.

but I think if there are no the nodes which are on line for a long time,  noone will play with you..


and you IPO is so much.... i do not think it is so right...

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 i'm pleased to hear that.

good work.

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release your source code so we can check whether you fixed the bugs ..

We are on github
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May 03, 2014, 03:13:45 PM
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escrow available for the sale?
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escrow available for the sale?

No - but if you don't trust us, why would you want the coins anyway?
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So you clone NXT and then morph yourselves into RippleLabs2. Nice Smiley

Can I get a job? I want to do blow out of a hookers ass crack too. You guys want to get rich without any effort, don't you!

Can someone just copy the bot distribution idea and increase the bounty to 5000 per day!

Add some accountability and the bot distro idea could really work, but this gordon gecko version needs to die.
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escrow available for the sale?

No - but if you don't trust us, why would you want the coins anyway?

Because some people might be interested but unsure. How about you send me some NHZ first and then I'll send you bitcoins, agreed? Smiley
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So you clone NXT and then morph yourselves into RippleLabs2. Nice Smiley

Can I get a job? I want to do blow out of a hookers ass crack too. You guys want to get rich without any effort, don't you!

Can someone just copy the bot distribution idea and increase the bounty to 5000 per day!

Add some accountability and the bot distro idea could really work, but this gordon gecko version needs to die.

Hi

We have no plans of increasing node bounty.
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escrow available for the sale?

No - but if you don't trust us, why would you want the coins anyway?

Because some people might be interested but unsure. How about you send me some NHZ first and then I'll send you bitcoins, agreed? Smiley

No, sorry, this is not an option.

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I think the dev should reward the nodes which are on line for a long time..

yes, every day 666coin, it is good.

but I think if there are no the nodes which are on line for a long time,  noone will play with you..


and you IPO is so much.... i do not think it is so right...

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Yes, The distribution shall speed up.
I will follow this thread.

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May 04, 2014, 03:28:28 PM
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so how can I get the coins?


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Any updates yet regarding the sale?
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Yes, the sale is now live at http://invest.nhzcrypto.org/
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Yes, the sale is now live at http://invest.nhzcrypto.org/

all gone? thats a joke?

After 2 minutes: the maximum amount you can buy is 0 NHZ  Angry
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Yes, the sale is now live at http://invest.nhzcrypto.org/

all gone? thats a joke?

It says that it will get filled up again. The total amount that will be sold is 18.8M. We are just testing with smaller amounts right now.
Keep calm. :p
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Yes, the sale is now live at http://invest.nhzcrypto.org/

all gone? thats a joke?

It says that it will get filled up again. The total amount that will be sold is 18.8M. We are just testing with smaller amounts right now.
Keep calm. :p

But this is very boring  Sad

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I will tray tomorrow again.
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May 04, 2014, 06:26:19 PM
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Yes, the sale is now live at http://invest.nhzcrypto.org/

all gone? thats a joke?

It says that it will get filled up again. The total amount that will be sold is 18.8M. We are just testing with smaller amounts right now.
Keep calm. :p

But this is very boring  Sad

"API down, please try again later"


I will tray tomorrow again.

Yeah some users are refreshing like crazy and reserving all the funds without then paying (and receiving) :/
We are working on it!
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May 04, 2014, 06:29:28 PM
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I am out for today.
I think you don't sale all today, no?
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May 04, 2014, 06:33:00 PM
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maybe first get all the bids and then distribute the coins after approving
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May 04, 2014, 06:39:23 PM
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coins appear and disappear in micro seconds
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May 04, 2014, 06:44:31 PM
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1B of total coins ,and sell 100SAT ? i can not accept.

think about nas , nfd and other coins base on nxt , hnz is highest price for IPO , that means only dev can get the benefit from it but not investor..

0.1 SAT , maybe just it.....

forget it , i'd rather to invest nfd.....more chance for all investor..
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May 04, 2014, 06:45:33 PM
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I am out for today.
I think you don't sale all today, no?

Definitely not, we will fill up the account over several days, so everyone gets a chance
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May 04, 2014, 06:50:49 PM
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I am out for today.
I think you don't sale all today, no?

Definitely not, we will fill up the account over several days, so everyone gets a chance

you put a small amount everytime and some whale is grabbing all the coins
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May 04, 2014, 07:31:30 PM
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1B of total coins ,and sell 100SAT ? i can not accept.

think about nas , nfd and other coins base on nxt , hnz is highest price for IPO , that means only dev can get the benefit from it but not investor..

0.1 SAT , maybe just it.....

forget it , i'd rather to invest nfd.....more chance for all investor..

Sir, I need to clear this up for you. The development team is working for bountys as well. We do NOT recieve any of the BTC from this sale. The BTC is going to fund servers and development. We have also made this clear in the announcment. All BTC will be accounted so you can see for you selfs, where they are going too.

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May 04, 2014, 07:44:57 PM
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please put all the coins for sale in one go
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May 04, 2014, 08:10:36 PM
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We still have to iron out some bugs and we are upgrading to a better server, so it will take some time for more to be sold.
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May 04, 2014, 08:35:11 PM
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wow 1 guy is just buying all the coins after they come up, thats not even close to a fair distribution in my eyes.

y1.
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May 04, 2014, 08:43:20 PM
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wow 1 guy is just buying all the coins after they come up, thats not even close to a fair distribution in my eyes.

if not distributed widely, coin will be dead before it launches on exchanges
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May 04, 2014, 08:47:55 PM
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wow 1 guy is just buying all the coins after they come up, thats not even close to a fair distribution in my eyes.

how you know one guy is buying all the coins?
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May 04, 2014, 09:03:43 PM
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wow 1 guy is just buying all the coins after they come up, thats not even close to a fair distribution in my eyes.

how you know one guy is buying all the coins?

it could be the dev trying to show there was a huge demand and when it hits exchanges he will dump them all
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May 04, 2014, 09:08:17 PM
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wow 1 guy is just buying all the coins after they come up, thats not even close to a fair distribution in my eyes.

what gives you the idea? we are not putting up any coins for sale right now because we are still fixing bugs

it could be the dev trying to show there was a huge demand and when it hits exchanges he will dump them all

don't be silly. nobody is trying anything here. we just didn't know that we would need a bigger server for this. we are working on it. not trying to give you the idea that the demand is high or something like that. please think before you type :/
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May 05, 2014, 06:03:41 AM
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This Coin is not trustworthy! They don't know anything about accounting and transparency required for a new coin!

Be careful guys!

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http://invest.nhzcrypto.org/  Page can not be opened. "API down, please try again later"

What other news?

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http://invest.nhzcrypto.org/  Page can not be opened. "API down, please try again later"

What other news?

It will take a while. We are all humans and can't work 24 hours a day. Well, at least not multiple days in a row. Please bear with us.

This Coin is not trustworthy! They don't know anything about accounting and transparency required for a new coin!

Be careful guys!

Bla. http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php?topic=3.0
Bla. http://explorer.nhzcrypto.org/?page=accounts
Bla.
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May 05, 2014, 07:59:49 AM
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36hrs ago I set up a second node with a different hallmark for the same NHZ address. But tonight I got paid only once. Is it possible to test if a given IP/Host is "working"? I saw there was a testing site for that purpose but I just lost the link...

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May 05, 2014, 08:01:48 AM
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This Coin is not trustworthy! They don't know anything about accounting and transparency required for a new coin!

Be careful guys!

why are you posting here, when you can't read?
how can you even write if you're not able to read simple sentences?
speech-input?
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thanks guys you are really being helpful Smiley


36hrs ago I set up a second node with a different hallmark for the same NHZ address. But tonight I got paid only once. Is it possible to test if a given IP/Host is "working"? I saw there was a testing site for that purpose but I just lost the link...


Exactly. And we also have a log channel for the Server Bounty System on freenode (IRC) in ##nhz-sbs Smiley
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Thanks! My node seems not to work. I have it on another port than 7774, the conf file gives the impression that this should work, doesn't it?

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May 05, 2014, 09:24:35 AM
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Thanks! My node seems not to work. I have it on another port than 7774, the conf file gives the impression that this should work, doesn't it?

This does work but not for the bounty, sorry.
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May 05, 2014, 09:44:46 AM
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Hi!

Please take non sale specific questions in our main thread.

UPDATE: We have some problems with our VPS provider that is handeling the sale, this will be solved in a few hours, max. So stay tuned.
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We experience some problems with the VPS provider. This problem is solved very soon.
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May 05, 2014, 10:23:51 AM
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we should send some giveways to attact more people to know the coin,


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May 05, 2014, 10:34:30 AM
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The sale is now up again! http://invest.nhzcrypto.org
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we should send some giveways to attact more people to know the coin,



http://faucet.nhzcrypto.org
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May 05, 2014, 12:47:07 PM
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is that 12 hrs time before I should make payment?
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May 05, 2014, 03:16:34 PM
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is that 12 hrs time before I should make payment?

If the transaction isn't visible to our Bitcoin client 6 hours after submitting the order, the reservation is canceled.
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May 05, 2014, 03:42:39 PM
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This Coin is not trustworthy! They don't know anything about accounting and transparency required for a new coin!

Be careful guys!

Bla. http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php?topic=3.0
Bla. http://explorer.nhzcrypto.org/?page=accounts
Bla.

Good to see this!
I don't think that it's enough transparency but good to see that.
Hope you success.

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May 05, 2014, 11:08:37 PM
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Running smooth since 12 hours, first stats:

"available":752500
"reserved":1310001
"sold":2937499

9 outgoing transactions, 7 recipients. transaction details: http://blocks.nhzcrypto.org/?page=account&id=12148568082895187378
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May 05, 2014, 11:21:12 PM
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what happened to those node thing Huh
its no good to change the way of distribution after launch.

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May 05, 2014, 11:22:57 PM
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how many more coins remaining for sale?
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May 05, 2014, 11:37:12 PM
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what happened to those node thing Huh
its no good to change the way of distribution after launch.

The sale doesn't affect the bounties and was planned and announced right from the start. It's only 2% of all NHZ, and the BTC will be spent transparently on server costs. Any other potential other expenses (advertising, external developers, ...) will be discussed on our forum. What isn't spent that way will be donated (10% right after the sale, you can vote for the recipients here)

how many more coins remaining for sale?

The total is 18.8M, so ~14M
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what happened to those node thing Huh
its no good to change the way of distribution after launch.

The sale doesn't affect the bounties and was planned and announced right from the start. It's only 2% of all NHZ, and the BTC will be spent transparently on server costs. Any other potential other expenses (advertising, external developers, ...) will be discussed on our forum. What isn't spent that way will be donated (10% right after the sale, you can vote for the recipients here)

how many more coins remaining for sale?

The total is 18.8M, so ~14M

if sale goes at this speed then it should be over in next 2 days.

what are the exchanges you talking to list NHZ?
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May 05, 2014, 11:49:42 PM
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We want it to last longer, the coins won't be added that fast for long. We'll add smaller amounts soon.

For the start we contacted bittrex, poloniex and dgex. Bittrex seems to plan to delist NXT soon and isn't interested in forks of it, the other two didn't answer yet.
We got an offer from nxt-e, but they wanted 10% of all NHZ, and after we checked their volume we laughed and decided to ignore it.

We plan to contact bter, but it's wise to have someone chinese do that because they are really slow in answering english mails. I know someone who already had a contact with them, but I didn't reach him today.

Can someone recommend any other exchanges?
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May 05, 2014, 11:55:44 PM
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you forgot mintpal?

Busoni, the poloniex guy is very aggressive. he will definitely add the coin.

dgex and nxt-e are worst. Nas got killed itself by listing in these exchanges. that's because the whole process of depositing btc/nas, trading and withdrawing btc/nas took minimum 30 hours.
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We didn't see NXT at mintpal, so we left them beside for this round...

I bought my NXT at dgex, that's been a while ago and my only experience with them - I heard they'd demand a bounty comparable to what nxt-e wanted, and before we pay that we open our own exchange Tongue
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We didn't see NXT at mintpal, so we left them beside for this round...

I bought my NXT at dgex, that's been a while ago and my only experience with them - I heard they'd demand a bounty comparable to what nxt-e wanted, and before we pay that we open our own exchange Tongue

don't know how dgex deals with devs. but as an user, I say they are dacoits. they deduct between 1.4 - 2.8% and take 3 - 48 hrs for BTC withdrawals. some users have experience of delayed withdrawals of 4 days.

BTER usually doesn't add a coin on launch. Poloniex is the only best option. It has got quite a large number of user base. It has got NXT and NAS already listed. so adding NHZ wouldn't be difficult for him
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BTER usually doesn't add a coin on launch. Poloniex is the only best option. It has got quite a large number of user base. It has got NXT and NAS already listed. so adding NHZ wouldn't be difficult for him

Polo's NXT volume is laughingly low....I think we should shoot for BTER (and Polo as a second). I've used BTER for my NXT trades without hitch (but their fees are a bit high).

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Status update:

"available":300000
"reserved":20001
"sold":5279999
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May 07, 2014, 11:26:33 AM
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after 48 hours:
"available":915990
"reserved":100010
"sold":5984000

24 transactions, 15 unique accounts
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May 07, 2014, 07:51:35 PM
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why is the sale going slow?
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why is the sale going slow?

Because we want everyone to be able to get a piece of the cake.
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"available":1500000
"reserved":237000
"sold":9763000
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"available":1500000
"reserved":237000
"sold":9763000

it is selling like hot cakes.
You guys should deliver something decent.

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May 09, 2014, 11:05:27 AM
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whats the guarantee that you will not dump the remaining 90%+ coins after listing?
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no guarantees, just promises and good intentions  Tongue
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May 09, 2014, 03:32:39 PM
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making it a real coin is harder than it seems.s. The purpose should be defined now!

Im trying to understand what you mean? Our purpose is defined at page 1 in this thread? Is this just some random quote so you can increese your number of posts?
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how is the sale different from ipo? even after the sale you are still left with 95% of the coins. that's a bit of worry.
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how is the sale different from ipo? even after the sale you are still left with 95% of the coins. that's a bit of worry.

The difference is that we have a running product. You invest partly in what already exists. NHZ has been traded freely on the market already.
In an IPO you do not see the product.. it is just words and promises. Also it has not been traded. Investors get their funds on launch. I hope you understand it better now.
If you have any more questions just ask. I suggest that you google IPO though.
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We, the developers, have not yet taken out any form of compensation for our work. The funds of this sale will solely go to the development of this currency and does not belong to any of the developers. We have soon reached 12 BTC of funds.

Therefore I have decided to sell a small set of my private funds because of my private need for some btc and the fact that i have (among others) worked many many hours for this currency.

I can sell somewhat cheaper than the sale, 0.9 btc per 1M NHZ. Probably will sell no more than 1M.

PM me if interested.
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We, the developers, have not yet taken out any form of compensation for our work. The funds of this sale will solely go to the development of this currency and does not belong to any of the developers. We have soon reached 12 BTC of funds.

Therefore I have decided to sell a small set of my private funds because of my private need for some btc and the fact that i have (among others) worked many many hours for this currency.

I can sell somewhat cheaper than the sale, 0.9 btc per 1M NHZ. Probably will sell no more than 1M.

PM me if interested.

Money from sale will be used for development. So you will get paid in the future, right?
Also curios what bounties you got or how many nodes you run to be able to trade "per 1M" - what implies you have multiple millions of NHZ. Sounds like you already got paid  Roll Eyes

Don't get me wrong: I like to see the devs paid for their work. But I don't like seeing them paid while saying they don't...


Btw: Where is the source so we can see what you developed beside a logo and a name replace?

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We, the developers, have not yet taken out any form of compensation for our work. The funds of this sale will solely go to the development of this currency and does not belong to any of the developers. We have soon reached 12 BTC of funds.

Therefore I have decided to sell a small set of my private funds because of my private need for some btc and the fact that i have (among others) worked many many hours for this currency.

I can sell somewhat cheaper than the sale, 0.9 btc per 1M NHZ. Probably will sell no more than 1M.

PM me if interested.

Money from sale will be used for development. So you will get paid in the future, right?
Also curios what bounties you got or how many nodes you run to be able to trade "per 1M" - what implies you have multiple millions of NHZ. Sounds like you already got paid  Roll Eyes

Don't get me wrong: I like to see the devs paid for their work. But I don't like seeing them paid while saying they don't...


Btw: Where is the source so we can see what you developed beside a logo and a name replace?

Not any of the developers in the core development team will be paid in BTC. Everyone in the core development team is working for bountys, the same as for everyone else.

Yes i have several millions of NHZ.

Asking for the source clearly states that you have no idea what so ever about this currency, sorry for being this honest. It also shows that you have read absolutly nothing from the first page in this thread nor our main thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=551666.0)

Im not trying to flip you off, and forgive me if im too honest.
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May 10, 2014, 11:07:28 AM
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how is the sale different from ipo? even after the sale you are still left with 95% of the coins. that's a bit of worry.
that's the point ,no one can promise dev will not sell NHZ in any time, do not forget ,dev have more than 99% NHZ.
so i think NHZ is very danger as to investors , it not like NXT or  NAS , the dev of NXT and NAS ,they just keep a little of coin ,but NHZ keeps almost all..
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May 10, 2014, 11:19:29 AM
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Please help me...you say in post #7 the source is available for public. But in fact on github are only binaries. Also, a topic wide search for the term "source" has no valuable result.

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how is the sale different from ipo? even after the sale you are still left with 95% of the coins. that's a bit of worry.
that's the point ,no one can promise dev will not sell NHZ in any time, do not forget ,dev have more than 99% NHZ.
so i think NHZ is very danger as to investors , it not like NXT or  NAS , the dev of NXT and NAS ,they just keep a little of coin ,but NHZ keeps almost all..

Your numbers are wrong. Read through what we have written before you make statements., please.

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May 10, 2014, 11:26:18 AM
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Please help me...you say in post #7 the source is available for public. But in fact on github are only binaries. Also, a topic wide search for the term "source" has no valuable result.

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Because you were in the "binaries" repository. Cheesy https://github.com/NeXTHorizon/nhz-source
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Please help me...you say in post #7 the source is available for public. But in fact on github are only binaries. Also, a topic wide search for the term "source" has no valuable result.

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Because you were in the "binaries" repository. Cheesy https://github.com/NeXTHorizon/nhz-source
Lol, thank you! Didn't find this link anywhere. Seems like this repo needs an update to v2.2 though Wink

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May 10, 2014, 11:43:07 AM
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I think you sell NHT too expensive. Why not let market decide?
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Please help me...you say in post #7 the source is available for public. But in fact on github are only binaries. Also, a topic wide search for the term "source" has no valuable result.

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Because you were in the "binaries" repository. Cheesy https://github.com/NeXTHorizon/nhz-source
Lol, thank you! Didn't find this link anywhere. Seems like this repo needs an update to v2.2 though Wink

Done!

I think you sell NHT too expensive. Why not let market decide?


Wow dude, please try to read better. NHZ was traded freely before the sale. We let the market decide.
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May 10, 2014, 10:56:29 PM
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My offer still stands..

We, the developers, have not yet taken out any form of compensation for our work. The funds of this sale will solely go to the development of this currency and does not belong to any of the developers. We have reached 13.4 (update from earlier today) BTC of funds.

Therefore I have decided to sell a small set of my private funds because of my private need for some btc and the fact that i have (among others) worked many many hours for this currency.

I can sell somewhat cheaper than the sale, 0.9 btc per 1M NHZ.

PM me if interested.
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May 11, 2014, 12:06:19 AM
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Also curios what bounties you got or how many nodes you run to be able to trade "per 1M" - what implies you have multiple millions of NHZ. Sounds like you already got paid  Roll Eyes

Don't get me wrong: I like to see the devs paid for their work. But I don't like seeing them paid while saying they don't...

Yes. We only get 'paid' in NHZ bounties like everyone else. We just got a bit more because the time we invested is significantly higher.
There are about 6 to 8 people working on NHZ and the developer bounty is noted here: http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php?topic=3.0
Just grab a calculator to know how much each of us got on average. Smiley
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3 devs? Would be about 5m NHZ each or $2k. That's a bit more than nothing Wink

You say you got more bounties (each of you as much as the whole community together) because you put more more time into the project. So you can't say "We, the developers, have not yet taken out any form of compensation for our work" - it's just not true. It would be true if you got 0 bounties.

Again, no offense. It's totally legit to get a compensation for your work. But don't say you got none when facts prove the opposite.

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3 devs? Would be about 5m NHZ each or $2k. That's a bit more than nothing Wink

You say you got more bounties (each of you as much as the whole community together) because you put more more time into the project. So you can't say "We, the developers, have not yet taken out any form of compensation for our work" - it's just not true. It would be true if you got 0 bounties.

Again, no offense. It's totally legit to get a compensation for your work. But don't say you got none when facts prove the opposite.

I wrote a long answer for you.. but i stopped when i realized that you probably actually do understand, you somehow reminds me of people i have met in the past, many many times. People like to call them trolls, but i dont. Sorry sir, this arguing is over and will not continue (there is nothing to argue about) Smiley I wish you a pleasant day though..
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3 devs? Would be about 5m NHZ each or $2k. That's a bit more than nothing Wink

You say you got more bounties (each of you as much as the whole community together) because you put more more time into the project. So you can't say "We, the developers, have not yet taken out any form of compensation for our work" - it's just not true. It would be true if you got 0 bounties.

Again, no offense. It's totally legit to get a compensation for your work. But don't say you got none when facts prove the opposite.

I wrote a long answer for you.. but i stopped when i realized that you probably actually do understand, you somehow reminds me of people i have met in the past, many many times. People like to call them trolls, but i dont. Sorry sir, this arguing is over and will not continue (there is nothing to argue about) Smiley I wish you a pleasant day though..
There is no argue from my side. Neither is there trolling. I just want you to stop crying you didn't get any compensation so far as it's not true.

Besides that: interesting project, will follow Smiley

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May 11, 2014, 02:12:23 PM
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3 devs? Would be about 5m NHZ each or $2k. That's a bit more than nothing Wink

Uhm. I said about 6 to 8. But yeah, there are 3 "core" developers right now.

Also, sale stats update:

available: 1,036,200
sold: 14,063,800

4,736,200 to go, then it's over. last chance Smiley
Edit: 3,700,000 to go!


Remember to vote here on how much we should donate to which organization: http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php/topic,97.0.html
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May 11, 2014, 09:57:55 PM
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We want it to last longer, the coins won't be added that fast for long. We'll add smaller amounts soon.

For the start we contacted bittrex, poloniex and dgex. Bittrex seems to plan to delist NXT soon and isn't interested in forks of it, the other two didn't answer yet.
We got an offer from nxt-e, but they wanted 10% of all NHZ, and after we checked their volume we laughed and decided to ignore it.

We plan to contact bter, but it's wise to have someone chinese do that because they are really slow in answering english mails. I know someone who already had a contact with them, but I didn't reach him today.

Can someone recommend any other exchanges?

did any of the exchange reply to you?
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No  Sad
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set up a vps for NHZ

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May 13, 2014, 09:31:05 AM
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Only 2.3M left until it's over!

"available":904700
"reserved":0
"sold":16595300
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May 13, 2014, 01:02:55 PM
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Only 2.3M left until it's over!

800k now Smiley
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May 13, 2014, 03:13:08 PM
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only 100K now!

NXT-XFAH-7N9C-6AS6-B3GLZ                BTC: 1MMzqYNNqQMMhY524Z9ThuQrRQW2whCmGk
NHZ: 8709719431783299770                 QORA | 2ND GEN | NEW SOURCE CODE | Qi24ssRqmEo3Wepv9pgdmqNuTDKQByiEfd
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May 13, 2014, 03:51:07 PM
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Everything has been added - last chance  Cool
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May 13, 2014, 04:04:50 PM
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Feeling is not very practical, is a little not credible
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May 13, 2014, 05:05:00 PM
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only 100K now!

All gone now
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May 13, 2014, 05:55:46 PM
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That's it.

Don't forget to give your vote for the donation until thursday!
http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php?topic=97.0
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May 13, 2014, 07:57:16 PM
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sale is over. what now?
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May 13, 2014, 09:42:03 PM
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sale is over. what now?

We will continue the development. We are currently installing a testnet. We will also buy redundancy for our web framework and more core hallmarks.

We do not rush anything. We are currently implementing what we see fit into NHZ from the latest NXT release.

We are here to stay and keep this going.

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May 14, 2014, 12:59:09 AM
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sale is over. what now?

We will continue the development. We are currently installing a testnet. We will also buy redundancy for our web framework and more core hallmarks.

We do not rush anything. We are currently implementing what we see fit into NHZ from the latest NXT release.

We are here to stay and keep this going.

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unless you accelerate, you will die like NAS
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May 14, 2014, 01:31:11 AM
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unless you accelerate, you will die like NAS

Without an active community every coin is doomed to die. Don't wait for us, help where you can. We have a list of bounty ideas here, and own ideas are always welcome.
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unless you accelerate, you will die like NAS

Without an active community every coin is doomed to die. Don't wait for us, help where you can. We have a list of bounty ideas here, and own ideas are always welcome.
Why should people put a lot of effort in a coin which is even on an exchange? At the moment it just doesn't make sense to integrate it to crypto stores etc.
Move on an exchange and give it a value or let it die. It would be a pity  Undecided

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Why should people put a lot of effort in a coin which is even on an exchange? At the moment it just doesn't make sense to integrate it to crypto stores etc.
Move on an exchange and give it a value or let it die. It would be a pity  Undecided

If we could just move on an exchange we would have already done that Wink We'll send another mail to the exchanges we already contacted soon.
If anyone can help with being added on a trustworthy exchange that'd also be worth a bounty...

//edit:
created a discussion about exchange bounties http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php?topic=121.0
please move the discussion to the announcement or into our forum, this thread has fulfilled its purpose
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May 14, 2014, 02:01:57 AM
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good idea for node set up

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May 15, 2014, 10:01:58 PM
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10% of the sale income (1.88 BTC, 840$) have been donated to internet and security related non-profits
http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php?topic=97.msg508#msg508
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