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May 03, 2014, 07:24:48 AM
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When yet another person asks, "Why is the price going down?" I'm pointing to this thread.

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May 03, 2014, 07:34:10 AM
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I really think that the BF should ask prospective board members to disclose any lawsuits they are defending. Unless it is for something like an unpaid speeding ticket then the candidate should be asked to withdraw until their legal matters are settled.


I think it would be pretty irresponsible to not do a thorough background check on each prospective member.
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May 03, 2014, 07:37:37 AM
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Bitcoin Foundation is not relevant

whats relevant is the wallets and mining software that runs the bitcoin nodes

those are the real votes on the bitcoin network

The Bitcoin Foundation is currently paying Gavin a salary, so they are relevant since he has control over changes to the code.

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May 03, 2014, 07:54:32 AM
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I really think that the BF should ask prospective board members to disclose any lawsuits they are defending. Unless it is for something like an unpaid speeding ticket then the candidate should be asked to withdraw until their legal matters are settled.


I think it would be pretty irresponsible to not do a thorough background check on each prospective member.

A thorough background check
I did some checking and there is little (if any) doubt that Brock Pierce:

1) Repeatedly starts (and helps to start) companies that lose many millions of investor funds.
2) Allegedly cheated a partner for a huge sum in a stock deal.
3a) Left the country when he knew some "wild parties" had gone way too far.
3b) Was sued for child rape by more than one (alleged) victim.

I think the above is reasonably accurate, the sources are (relatively) easy to find on google and in current threads here.

To be fair, in a recent video Brock Pierce seemed like a great spokesperson for Bitcoin.
If the world is ready to completely forgive "thieves and (alleged) pedos", then he's the perfect man to help lead BTC into the future.

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May 03, 2014, 08:26:08 AM
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I really think that the BF should ask prospective board members to disclose any lawsuits they are defending. Unless it is for something like an unpaid speeding ticket then the candidate should be asked to withdraw until their legal matters are settled.


I think it would be pretty irresponsible to not do a thorough background check on each prospective member.

A thorough background check
I did some checking and there is little (if any) doubt that Brock Pierce:

1) Repeatedly starts (and helps to start) companies that lose many millions of investor funds.
2) Allegedly cheated a partner for a huge sum in a stock deal.
3a) Left the country when he knew some "wild parties" had gone way too far.
3b) Was sued for child rape by more than one (alleged) victim.

I think the above is reasonably accurate, the sources are (relatively) easy to find on google and in current threads here.

To be fair, in a recent video Brock Pierce seemed like a great spokesperson for Bitcoin.
If the world is ready to completely forgive "thieves and (alleged) pedos", then he's the perfect man to help lead BTC into the future.

In re. the latter part, you're asking the same community to lend a blind eye that kicked Bruce Wagner to the curb, justifiable or not, for only penning ONCE about a three-prong attack involving two adults and an underage boy. What you penned above the fold is much more serious.
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May 03, 2014, 08:35:33 AM
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I see historical parallels here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/02/libyan-leader-gaddafi-ele_n_163071.html

EDIT: as the above is easily misinterpreted I realize now; OPs title should say 'bitcoin industry' rather than 'foundation'. Since what he perceives as a problematic outcome is ultimately the responsibility of the electorate.

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May 03, 2014, 08:37:27 AM
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Have you ever paid to the foundation Bruno ? Otherwise I dont get a point to talk about them.

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May 03, 2014, 08:54:54 AM
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Have you ever paid to the foundation Bruno ? Otherwise I dont get a point to talk about them.

https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current

Search for Bruno Kucinskas.
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May 03, 2014, 08:55:34 AM
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I always thought Bruce Wagner went away because everyone knew he was a thief, but I wasn't following it closely.



In re. the latter part, you're asking the same community to lend a blind eye....

If wasn't "personally asking", it was just an if, but I understand your point.

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May 03, 2014, 09:05:03 AM
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I always thought Bruce Wagner went away because everyone knew he was a thief, but I wasn't following it closely.



In re. the latter part, you're asking the same community to lend a blind eye....

If wasn't "personally asking", it was just an if, but I understand your point.


Let's see if we can nail this coffin shut with...

Disturbing new internet child abuse sees toddlers raped and burned live on webcam as paedophiles use Bitcoin to stop being traced, warns police chief

...and, The Bitcoin Foundation, with its college-educated board members, thought it prudent to include a once accused paedo- on the list of candidates to be voted on to fill one of the empty board member seats vacated by an accused thief and Silk Road user, with apologies to Charlie Shrem.

Madness!
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May 03, 2014, 09:32:02 AM
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Truth from a long time friend, enemy, business partner & competitor:

Pretty amazing the amount of damage someone can do with some fake facebook accounts. I have to wonder what the agenda is here and if it has something to do with the Bitcoin Foundations elections...or worse someone trying to hurt Bitcoin as Brock is one of the most outspoken people in the Bitcoin space.

I clicked on Brock's timeline on his real facebook for the supposed above dates and he was in Los Angeles, California and not in Spain. Don't let someone troll you with fake facebook accounts.
Instead of reading all this made up crap and coming up with a bad opinion I suggest you reach out to him and talk to him yourself.

The true facts are pretty simple:
- Brock was associated with Rector when he was a teenager. I don't know any details. I personally think he was a victim. He has never mentioned it and I don't bring it up.
- Think about this one: Brock was my #1 competitor. If I could have used it against him I probably would have if there was something to use.
- Most everything is about money. People sue and make stuff up to try to get you to pay something. Sadly this is how it is.
- If you noticed on the lawsuit on his partners suing Brock for cheating his partners I took no part of because it was mostly lies.
- Brock makes more money for his investors that you know. He might fail in 3 out of 4 of his companies but that fourth one makes so much money for his investors which is why they keep investing in them.
- People get fired from businesses which why you only hear their side of the story and its always negative.
- I can also guarantee you without a doubt is Brock is a lover of women (so much that I fear that it keeps getting him into trouble).

From someone who knows all the facts. There is some agenda being played out here. What a better way to take one of Bitcoin's star advocates and link him to Paedophilia. This is FUD in the worst possible way. Kiss
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May 03, 2014, 10:22:03 AM
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Have you ever paid to the foundation Bruno ? Otherwise I dont get a point to talk about them.

https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current

Search for Bruno Kucinskas.

LoLz... probably that is the reason u r so concerned about this organization. Probably most of the bitcoiners are not Cheesy

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May 03, 2014, 10:58:09 AM
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Truth from a long time friend, enemy, business partner & competitor:

Pretty amazing the amount of damage someone can do with some fake facebook accounts. I have to wonder what the agenda is here and if it has something to do with the Bitcoin Foundations elections...or worse someone trying to hurt Bitcoin as Brock is one of the most outspoken people in the Bitcoin space.

I clicked on Brock's timeline on his real facebook for the supposed above dates and he was in Los Angeles, California and not in Spain. Don't let someone troll you with fake facebook accounts.
Instead of reading all this made up crap and coming up with a bad opinion I suggest you reach out to him and talk to him yourself.

The true facts are pretty simple:
- Brock was associated with Rector when he was a teenager. I don't know any details. I personally think he was a victim. He has never mentioned it and I don't bring it up.
- Think about this one: Brock was my #1 competitor. If I could have used it against him I probably would have if there was something to use.
- Most everything is about money. People sue and make stuff up to try to get you to pay something. Sadly this is how it is.
- If you noticed on the lawsuit on his partners suing Brock for cheating his partners I took no part of because it was mostly lies.
- Brock makes more money for his investors that you know. He might fail in 3 out of 4 of his companies but that fourth one makes so much money for his investors which is why they keep investing in them.
- People get fired from businesses which why you only hear their side of the story and its always negative.
- I can also guarantee you without a doubt is Brock is a lover of women (so much that I fear that it keeps getting him into trouble).

From someone who knows all the facts. There is some agenda being played out here. What a better way to take one of Bitcoin's star advocates and link him to Paedophilia. This is FUD in the worst possible way. Kiss

I was wonder how long it'll take before you weighed in on the subject.

I gave these guys a call and they were very helpful and I would have to say Legit. Enough that I bought 100 units from them.

I bought 40 or so from them. Overall a smooth transaction and I received them when they said. They are still working today (though doubtful I am making anything from them). I would personally buy from them again based on my previous experience in June. (I didn't read this whole thread so I don't know if things have changed since then and I am just stating my experience for others).

I was pretty good in math during high school, thus I believe you're missing ~3 score Lancelots.

Also, I may or may not have seen pics contrary to your last bullet point, but even though I haven't been laid in a while, I still know what a woman looks like. I'm just saying. <Please, Jehovay, don't let me find out later that you put dicks on them bitches.>

Thats another one added to the ignore list. If you must know, I was selling $m's before I was 18, I've won multiple national awards for entrepreneurship and consulting and I'd walk straight through you if I thought you were anything but a worthless, jealous troll sitting behind a keyboard.

Care to explain your signature, if you've got so many millions?

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I am not even sure I am bullish on Bitcoin let alone Bitcoin hardware =).  I would love to see you projections. You can email me at yantis@yantis.net or just PM me here. More likely than not I am wrong =). I tend to not assume I am right with anything.

I believe that there is a 10% chance that Bitcoin will succeed and a 90% chance it will fail. If it succeeds the gains will be unlike any other investment at values of 10k or even possibly 100k USD per BTC. Then again more than likely you will just lose all your money.

On Avalon: They are behind but soon in the next few months those chips will start hitting and then it takes time to build and all that. I think there is a 60 day to 120 day windows here. Rumor is they only sent 30 chips out instead of 10k to people (update: see post below on this). Today they did send out an update via email though which promising.

On BFL: They are over their head. I don't see them getting all these units out for at least 90 to 120 days if not more.

Bitfury:  I think this is a good bet. I preordered batch 1 units but again 60 to 90 days out.

KNCMiner: Up in the air still on these guys.

What worries me are the people not on the list. Stuff like the Coinlab secret mine and the the massive growth to networking power in the past 10 days that is unaccounted for and real ASIC (non Bitcoin) players getting into this space.

Today the smart move would simply be investing in Bitcoin and not in Bitcoin hardware and definitely don't invest in pre-orders. You probably don't want to keep a lot of hardware either and if you have a lot consider diversifying 50/50 into BTC/hardware.

For me with hardware its +/- 30% bet in the short term with all the BTC that gets made mining it just gets reinvested into more hardware.  I have a lot more confidence in hardware and what it can generate in the next 90 days vs just holding Bitcoin. So the plan is simple get hardware that can get back most of its cost in the next 90 days and make sure you have a pretty good idea what will happen over the next 90 days and all proceeds on the Bitcoin generated to go to buy more hardware for the next 90 day batch.

The bet here is that Bitcoin is going to succeed and at $10,000 or $100,000 a Bitcoin does it matter to much if you paid $70 or $130 for it.



Up in the air about KnC while all the while your partner, Brock Pierce, was secreting embracing them, culminating to a 7,000+ bitcoin mining rig facility at The Node Pole, with a couple more mega-pharms under construction.

And, I'm the one spreading fud.

Madness!

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May 03, 2014, 11:15:17 AM
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Is there already a wiki to collect information and sum up all the people (incl. their past career), companies and their connections in the bitcoin universe.?
If not it could really be helpful for the future to set one up...

A guy like Mark Lombardi would have a lot of fun with it.
imagine something like this on a website.


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May 03, 2014, 11:22:45 AM
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Bruno K.: No way I am going to feed the trolls here. I have no doubt I would lose as anyone who reads these forums know that you are the King of Trolls =).

P.S: For fun on your posts on me (I know you spent a lot of time researching my posts to troll me so I will reply this one time).
- Black Arrow guys actually refunded 2/3rds of my money. So Kudos to them.
- Not sure what that second part is about. I can't even put it in context as I didn't write it.
- F*CK KnCMiner

Also, just to take the high road here: I sent 10 BTC over to Sean's Outpost.
https://blockchain.info/tx/ffe9742f16126262f0b7f534d6d63a9c27d7ee77ff492427b3d45a7a4195ea9e
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I thought that Bobby Lee was a very good choice. He handled the situation in China in whatever way he could, even after facing enormous pressure from the Chinese dictatorship. Haven't heard much about Brock Pierce.

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May 03, 2014, 12:09:32 PM
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Phinnaeus, wasnt it you that said you would quit from this forum, or am I wrong?

"you simply don't quit bitcoin"

that said, bobby lee? the ltc guy, the one that can only repeat again and again

"I created litecoin to be silver to bitcoin gold, no premine, has 84 million bla bla bla


about the others, i still reading but why the yantis guy say f* kncminers when knc were one of the most reliable
and what connection they have with knc china?

is gox takeover the new neo-bee?

Don't donate me: donate to nmc re-base development project.
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May 03, 2014, 12:16:11 PM
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Phinnaeus, wasnt it you that said you would quit from this forum, or am I wrong?

"you simply don't quit bitcoin"

that said, bobby lee? the ltc guy, the one that can only repeat again and again

"I created litecoin to be silver to bitcoin gold, no premine, has 84 million bla bla bla"

They are brothers:
Bobby Lee (I think) is the CEO of a Chinese exchange and his brother Charles Lee, a former Google employee, is the LTC guy.

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What a huge pile of horseshit that is. Here in the west there is no PBOC that can take care of the threat to fiat money, so the "system" has to use the media. And since childporn FUD is not strong enough, people read about that every day, it must be "enhanced" by burning toddlers. And BTC is to blame, wow such sincere journalism  Shocked

What is next on mainstream media? Aliens eating babies, paid with BTC?  Tongue

Truth is the new hatespeech.
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May 03, 2014, 03:27:35 PM
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 It is just a private group of scammers and other kind of criminals, as other poster said their group name is just to cause confusion. But it is worrying 'cause as far as i know core developers are founding members of such group. We can't let bitcoin development in their hands.

 
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