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May 06, 2014, 05:36:27 AM |
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Just counted how many times the word "WE" is written in the original white paper and it is 20 times. Satoshi has never written "I have proposed or I have done". Then why should we still think Satoshi is a single person. It must definitely be group hence "WE". what do you think.... http://nakamotoinstitute.org/bitcoin/
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May 06, 2014, 05:51:20 AM |
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So they are a team not a person?
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cuddaloreappu (OP)
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May 06, 2014, 05:54:59 AM |
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So they are a team not a person?
Yes, as simple as that.
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Rannasha
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May 06, 2014, 05:55:36 AM |
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It's the standard in academic publications to use "we" instead of "I" even if there is just a single author. The fact that "we" is used instead of "I" in the Bitcoin whitepaper says very little other than that Satoshi used an academic writing style, which is already obvious from other parts of the paper.
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May 06, 2014, 05:58:31 AM |
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It's the standard in academic publications to use "we" instead of "I" even if there is just a single author. The fact that "we" is used instead of "I" in the Bitcoin whitepaper says very little other than that Satoshi used an academic writing style, which is already obvious from other parts of the paper.
this is correct... we is academic..
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cuddaloreappu (OP)
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May 06, 2014, 06:03:14 AM |
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Yes i agree scientific papers must not use "I" but that does not exclude the word "we" meant a team.
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May 06, 2014, 06:20:28 AM |
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Satoshi's still around. He's just working on another coin at the moment.
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May 06, 2014, 06:33:16 AM |
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Satoshi has never written "I have proposed or I have done".
First e-mail from Satoshi: "I've been working on a new electronic cash system that's fully peer-to-peer, with no trusted third party."
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May 06, 2014, 06:37:20 AM |
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We are Satoshi. We live here:
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May 06, 2014, 08:16:36 AM |
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It's the standard in academic publications to use "we" instead of "I" even if there is just a single author. The fact that "we" is used instead of "I" in the Bitcoin whitepaper says very little other than that Satoshi used an academic writing style, which is already obvious from other parts of the paper.
We +1 this! (I was seriously taking a wee when I type that... now I'm pooping, and don't ask me why I typed pooping instead of shitting, for I don't haveth a clue)
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Rannasha
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May 06, 2014, 08:18:44 AM |
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Yes i agree scientific papers must not use "I" but that does not exclude the word "we" meant a team.
True, it doesn't necessarily exclude it. It just doesn't say anything meaningful about the solo/team matter one way or the other.
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May 06, 2014, 08:27:37 AM |
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Just following the standard he or she even still remains as much a mystery to us as always
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May 06, 2014, 09:00:09 AM |
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Think this is just majestic plural.Or just a way to cause confusion about he being a single person or a group.
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May 06, 2014, 09:18:53 AM |
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He got some feedback from the crypto forums before the white paper.
People so want to believe that it was a community because in this day and age individual accomplishment is evil.
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May 06, 2014, 10:11:19 AM Last edit: May 06, 2014, 10:59:53 AM by Skirmant |
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Just following the standard he or she even still remains as much a mystery to us as always
Satoshi isn't a he or a she, it's an IT. A genderless Grey alien that came from Andromeda to save us all from the the evils of Illuminati fiat currency
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dreamspark
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May 06, 2014, 10:13:32 AM |
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Satoshi's still around. He's just working on another coin at the moment.
Nah, why would he do that?
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May 06, 2014, 12:01:07 PM |
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I don't think usage of we or I is important or any kind of proof. In the long run it can only show that he or them or whatever might be or might not be attending some kind of school.
But yeah, I wont be surprised if after some time there will be some cheese movie about it.
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May 06, 2014, 12:06:13 PM |
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Yes i agree scientific papers must not use "I" but that does not exclude the word "we" meant a team.
scientist mostly work with / on a team dont they??
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turvarya
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May 06, 2014, 12:24:17 PM |
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I read some of the interviews from Gavin and what I got out of it, is that Satoshi is most likely a single Academic Person, most likely a Professor.
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May 06, 2014, 02:55:13 PM |
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My guess is a single man ideal and a group effort to cover all aspects of the bitcoin infrastructure.
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ellen_me
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May 06, 2014, 04:04:29 PM |
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That was interesting. But all I know is that I only have some Satoshis and I would want to reach a 1 BTC.
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May 06, 2014, 04:22:04 PM |
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That was interesting. But all I know is that I only have some Satoshis and I would want to reach a 1 BTC. u are not alone..i too have only satoshis and want to reach btc
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ellen_me
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May 06, 2014, 04:39:22 PM |
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That was interesting. But all I know is that I only have some Satoshis and I would want to reach a 1 BTC. u are not alone..i too have only satoshis and want to reach btc Thanks for letting me know. Big things start from small things.
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blatchcorn
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May 06, 2014, 06:43:29 PM |
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We are all Satoshi. Satoshi is the community
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Beliathon
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May 06, 2014, 06:44:44 PM |
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You are Satoshi Nakamoto.
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Koko
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May 06, 2014, 06:47:07 PM |
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Maybe it's the royal "We". Maybe Satoshi is a...KING!
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May 06, 2014, 06:58:21 PM |
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We will probably never see him again. There are too many risks and not much to gain. Maybe it's the royal "We". Maybe Satoshi is a...KING! We could easily convince David Icke that Satoshi is a Lizard King. I think Satoshi is possibly an ET from another planet. We will (probably) not know much more about him any time soon.
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May 06, 2014, 07:19:23 PM |
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Another silly thread about the fantasy that Satoshi is a group of multiracial LGTB agents working for the NSA.
Satoshi is one person, a man, white, and probably American. He got the idea from reading Nick Szabo's blog, or from direct communication with Nick Szabo, or because he is Nick Szabo.
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May 06, 2014, 07:28:49 PM |
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In fact that Satoshi used "WE" word instead of "I" don't really tell anything, It's still a clue maybe It's a group or maybe It's a single person, but If we think logically, Is one person would be able to create such good crypto coin as bitcoin? I personally think It could.
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May 06, 2014, 08:37:52 PM |
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Satoshi Nakamoto is also meant to be a pseudonym.....
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May 07, 2014, 12:51:51 AM |
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Satoshi used the "royal we". Look it up.
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May 07, 2014, 01:26:30 AM |
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My guess is it's a single person instead of a group. Many people normally write "we" in a professionally written report.
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May 07, 2014, 02:39:46 AM |
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IMO, Satoshi realizes that his success is the success of his team. If you have a great idea, it is not always possible to implement it, cos, for example, you will need special knowledge of programming or the economy etc
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May 07, 2014, 03:15:16 AM |
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I found a good Satoshi quote: "The utility of the exchanges made possible by Bitcoin will far exceed the cost of electricity used. Therefore, not having Bitcoin would be the net waste." ~Satoshi August 7, 2010
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May 07, 2014, 03:20:31 AM |
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i don't think so!
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May 07, 2014, 03:58:40 AM |
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Another silly thread about the fantasy that Satoshi is a group of multiracial LGTB agents working for the NSA.
Satoshi is one person, a man, white, and probably American. He got the idea from reading Nick Szabo's blog, or from direct communication with Nick Szabo, or because he is Nick Szabo.
Of course, that explains the Japanese pseudonym perfectly! Why didn't I think of that?
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cuddaloreappu (OP)
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May 07, 2014, 04:32:35 AM |
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Another silly thread about the fantasy that Satoshi is a group of multiracial LGTB agents working for the NSA.
Satoshi is one person, a man, white, and probably American. He got the idea from reading Nick Szabo's blog, or from direct communication with Nick Szabo, or because he is Nick Szabo.
Did the OP mention any of that you are saying? its just "we" and "I" and thats all.. Again why does it have to be an american, white and a man..it could well be a black american female.. you are also speculating the identity of satoshi...
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May 07, 2014, 04:54:01 AM |
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We, I, he, she, space alien, cow, time traveler, ant, worm, or etc.
Leave it alone, the entity that blessed us with Bitcoin desired privacy. Respect the entities desire for privacy.
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hello_good_sir
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May 07, 2014, 05:26:28 AM |
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Again why does it have to be an american, white and a man..it could well be a black american female..
I never said that he had to be American. I just said that he probably is. Most native English speakers are American. I am having trouble finding numbers, but it is pretty clear that most native English speaking programmers are American. Unless we have reason to believe that he isn't American, the parsimonious conclusion is that he probably is. As for his demographics, let's be realistic. This isn't TV. Imagine that there was a black female programmer with the skills necessary to write the bitcoin client. Do you really think that we wouldn't know about such a 1 in a trillion person? She would be already be one of the most famous people in the world. All of the elite universities would have fought over her. Then every company in the world (and not just software companies) would fight fiercely to have her on their staff. Imagine the Obama story x100.
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May 07, 2014, 05:52:06 AM |
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Again why does it have to be an american, white and a man..it could well be a black american female..
I never said that he had to be American. I just said that he probably is. Most native English speakers are American. I am having trouble finding numbers, but it is pretty clear that most native English speaking programmers are American. Unless we have reason to believe that he isn't American, the parsimonious conclusion is that he probably is. As for his demographics, let's be realistic. This isn't TV. Imagine that there was a black female programmer with the skills necessary to write the bitcoin client. Do you really think that we wouldn't know about such a 1 in a trillion person? She would be already be one of the most famous people in the world. All of the elite universities would have fought over her. Then every company in the world (and not just software companies) would fight fiercely to have her on their staff. Imagine the Obama story x100. Black female programmers unite for Focus 100, Google-sponsored NYC hackathon and tech bootcamp http://thegrio.com/2013/09/26/black-female-programmers-unite-for-focus-100-google-sponsored-nyc-hackathon-tech-bootcamp"Google and more giant tech brands are joining forces to encourage black women programmers and technology entrepreneurs to hone their skills and acquire venture capital investment." Maybe Satoshi was a group of black female programmers, or perhaps it doesn't matter?
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pabpete
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May 07, 2014, 06:22:23 AM |
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Satoshi's still around. He's just working on another coin at the moment.
THE coin?
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cuddaloreappu (OP)
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May 07, 2014, 08:10:13 AM |
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Satoshi's still around. He's just working on another coin at the moment.
THE coin? Satoshicoin
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blatchcorn
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May 07, 2014, 11:16:23 AM |
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Satoshi's still around. He's just working on another coin at the moment.
THE coin? Satoshicoin No he is a lead developer of Dogecoin
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May 07, 2014, 11:54:45 AM |
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I also believe btc was developed by a group not just one person
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May 07, 2014, 12:14:01 PM |
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Another silly thread about the fantasy that Satoshi is a group of multiracial LGTB agents working for the NSA.
Satoshi is one person, a man, white, and probably American. He got the idea from reading Nick Szabo's blog, or from direct communication with Nick Szabo, or because he is Nick Szabo.
I would also bet on Nick Szabo: Dr. Jack Grieve, a lecturer in forensic linguistics at Aston, said: "The number of linguistic similarities between Szabo’s writing and the Bitcoin paper is uncanny, none of the other possible authors were anywhere near as good of a match. We are pretty confident that out of the primary suspects Nick Szabo is the main author of the paper, though we can’t rule out the possibility that others contributed." http://www.businessinsider.com/nick-szabo-bitcoin-2014-4#!J9pQr
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May 07, 2014, 12:21:13 PM |
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Nick Szabo, just like Dorian, and many others, have categorically DENIED being Nakamoto.
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May 07, 2014, 12:36:41 PM |
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Satoshi's still around. He's just working on another coin at the moment.
Bytecoin BCN
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May 07, 2014, 12:59:51 PM |
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My guess is a single man ideal and a group effort to cover all aspects of the bitcoin infrastructure.
I guess!
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cuddaloreappu (OP)
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May 07, 2014, 02:29:37 PM |
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Satoshi's still around. He's just working on another coin at the moment.
THE coin? Satoshicoin No he is a lead developer of Dogecoin yeah maybe you are right...the lead developer calls himself shibetoshi nakamoto on twitter
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May 07, 2014, 02:58:06 PM |
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I am not familiar with scientific papers but I do know that some legal documents uses "We" as "I" is not formal for it.
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Beliathon
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May 07, 2014, 03:07:42 PM |
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Nick Szabo, just like Dorian, and many others, have categorically DENIED being Nakamoto. You know who HASN'T denied being Nakamoto? Saddam Hussein. Thanks, Obamacare!
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hello_good_sir
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May 07, 2014, 04:05:05 PM |
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I would also bet on Nick Szabo:
I actually think that it isn't him. Nick Szabo came up with the idea for Bitcoin, but he isn't known to be an excellent coder. Many smart people read his blog http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/ . I believe that one of them saw his idea and implemented it. So that's my theory: Satoshi is some guy who read Szabo's blog.
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May 07, 2014, 04:24:23 PM |
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'We' makes it sound much like a community and much more welcoming to those who are new to the whole cryptocurrency world.
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lijiaren
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May 07, 2014, 04:32:20 PM |
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Yes i agree scientific papers must not use "I"
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May 07, 2014, 06:16:01 PM |
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As it was said already, in academic papers one writes "we", not "I". Even when you present a work oraly at a conference, typically you also say "we" even if you did everything alone. So the only thing clear is that Satoshi know(s) academic writing style.
Though the white paper follows writing standards of the academic world, in my opinion the writing aspect is not as high level as for instance a paper in a high impact, well-reviewed journal. When reading, it is clear the paper didn't go through a reviewing process. I believe this is actually positive because the white paper that way is very accessible to many people, a background in computer science is sufficient to get pretty much everything unlike most papers in a journal of a specific sub-field.
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Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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May 07, 2014, 07:42:07 PM |
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The royal 'we'
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