jjj0923
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May 14, 2014, 09:50:24 PM |
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Jack, Asiabtc, lightningasic... whatever you are calling yourselves these days... Just in case you forgot: I am interested in purchasing one of the 30Mh/s scrypt miners.
How much is the price in BTC?
What shipping method is used?
How soon does it ship after payment?
we accept china market btc rate-0.5%. we use dhl express. we can ship out LA30MB 3 days after payment received. I just skyped this to jack... you guys are self destructing on the forum - you have refused to give people tracking numbers and everyone is assuming you are thieves - why don't you just post what's going on? In the absence of any status information from you - people just assume you have stolen their money - there are at least 3 people on the forum that are complaining that you have not sent them tracking numbers...why are you letting this happen to your business?
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jjj0923
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May 14, 2014, 10:05:56 PM |
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when people take your money they assume an obligation to you.
it's as simple as that - if they can't deliver in the promised time or for any reason they need to put their man panties on and give you the news - because knowing something is better than knowing nothing.
when someone shuns their responsibility to their customers it's cowardice.
Jack - I'm calling you out. You've been notified that these guys want their tracking number and I know you're online.
perhaps my future business is not important to you, but you took their money and you OWE them an explanation of what's going on.
It's your duty as a business man and more importantly a man.
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flipstyle
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May 14, 2014, 10:13:45 PM |
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Good god, are you people really THIS stupid?
LOL.
Someone just made off with thousands of dollars because you paid via btc and bankwire with zero protection.
Your first alarm should have been their email address being gmail. What reputable business uses gmail emails instead of their own domain?
Man, scamming is wayyy too easy on this site.
Dude Lightningasic is a well known company distributing Hardware, they were suppliers of Gridseed and also they supply Dragon miners. We are not afraid of not delivering the products, we are afraid of delays in receiving the products, understand ?? Also seems you either don´t read this forum or you are STUPID ..... LOL I'm sorry man, but if you actually trust a company out of CHINA with btc or bank wire payment, then you deserve to lose everything you put in. This isn't about reputation or research, this is about basic common sense. I've dealt with multiple companies out of china for over 5 years now, and sites such as alibaba and taobao are a breeding grounds for scams, with majority of them being fly-by-night 'bank wire' scam operations. YOU ARE PAYING THOUSANDS WITH PAYMENTS THAT ARE NON REFUNDABLE. Use your brains people! These people have zero obligation to you and are thousands of miles away. lol...when will you people ever learn to pay with escrow and/or something reversible like a credit card. You guys are committing financial suicide. Hell, nobody even asked the OP to post a pic or vid holding up a piece of paper with their bctalk username on it along with a demo. The level of consumer trust in the crypto world amazes me.
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jjj0923
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May 14, 2014, 10:43:23 PM |
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flipstyle
just for the record these guys have delivered lot of Gridseed units and a friend of mine took delivery yesterday of the 90 MHS unit - he's in germany and it's up and running today.
it aint the gloom and doom you espouse but you make some valid points....
my suspicion is that the units are lte and for reasons unknown to me the owner 'jack' is afraid to post the bad news - but some news is better than no news....
perhaps it's just the custom in china but when i worked for Motorola our chinese business partners were always very up front about delays.
thanks
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flipstyle
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May 14, 2014, 11:36:37 PM |
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flipstyle
just for the record these guys have delivered lot of Gridseed units and a friend of mine took delivery yesterday of the 90 MHS unit - he's in germany and it's up and running today.
it aint the gloom and doom you espouse but you make some valid points....
my suspicion is that the units are lte and for reasons unknown to me the owner 'jack' is afraid to post the bad news - but some news is better than no news....
perhaps it's just the custom in china but when i worked for Motorola our chinese business partners were always very up front about delays.
thanks
Well I certainly hope you guys get what you paid for. In my vast exerpience with chinese suppliers, you have to keep the pressure and communication on them, or they will never get back to you. If it's been this long and you have received no word, then things most likely aren't looking good, and I'm not too sure how willing they'd be to issue refunds when the money is already in their pockets with zero chance of chargeback. I don't want to sound like a negative nancy, but China is one of the top breeding grounds for scams, so anyone looking to invest without a credit card or escrow is pretty much relying on blind faith. And just because a supplier may have been loyal in the past, does not mean they are incapable of pulling off one last big bang before they close up shop. In fact, that's how most scams work...build up consumer trust in preparation for the grand heist. It's rampant all over ebay. From the looks of their btc account, they've received around 170btc in the past few weeks...that's a substantial amount of money, and they've been withdrawing almost daily, so I'm sure they've seen your messages.
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jjj0923
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May 14, 2014, 11:41:55 PM |
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flipstyle
just for the record these guys have delivered lot of Gridseed units and a friend of mine took delivery yesterday of the 90 MHS unit - he's in germany and it's up and running today.
it aint the gloom and doom you espouse but you make some valid points....
my suspicion is that the units are lte and for reasons unknown to me the owner 'jack' is afraid to post the bad news - but some news is better than no news....
perhaps it's just the custom in china but when i worked for Motorola our chinese business partners were always very up front about delays.
thanks
Well I certainly hope you guys get what you paid for. In my vast exerpience with chinese suppliers, you have to keep the pressure and communication on them, or they will never get back to you. If it's been this long and you have received no word, then things most likely aren't looking good, and I'm not too sure how willing they'd be to issue refunds when the money is already in their pockets with zero chance of chargeback. I don't want to sound like a negative nancy, but China is one of the top breeding grounds for scams, so anyone looking to invest without a credit card or escrow is pretty much relying on blind faith. And just because a supplier may have been loyal in the past, does not mean they are incapable of pulling off one last big bang before they close up shop. In fact, that's how most scams work...build up consumer trust in preparation for the grand heist. It's rampant all over ebay. From the looks of their btc account, they've received around 170btc in the past few weeks...that's a substantial amount of money, and they've been withdrawing almost daily, so I'm sure they've seen your messages. if push comes to shove a young man who interned for me who is now an attorney in china is about 80 miles from their offices and I'm sure he'd be willing to place a call for me - although at this point I have no hrose in the race - I'm interested in ordering a unit from them but not until I see these guys get some satisfaction.
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braindead
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May 15, 2014, 03:59:44 AM Last edit: May 15, 2014, 02:29:00 PM by braindead |
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Hey ..
They are the worst supplier in the world, chinese are the person you dont want to deal, but they have the best price in the world, so the greed takes place, and they know how to handle the greed, because they love money, they never think about future or honesty or company rate, they live to sell no matter what
STOP chinese you must live also to support and enjoy you will never enjoy your work because you will never have the customer satisfaction, and that´s the holy grail
When they have problems they dont reply to email or skype or pm.. and they go to sleep, i could never sleep when having problems with one customer
So and this is final ... i hope they read and understand ..
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braindead
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May 15, 2014, 04:02:53 AM |
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AnyWAY they are best than Butterfly or other.. dont get me wrong... just trying to prove something here
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miropp
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May 15, 2014, 01:04:27 PM |
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So how it is with delivery? It seems that 3-5 days is not valid and lightniningasic is not responding... I would like to order some units, but only with good references, good communication and fast delivery. lightningasic / asiabtc / Jack - is it the same person?
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jjj0923
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May 15, 2014, 01:46:14 PM |
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So how it is with delivery? It seems that 3-5 days is not valid and lightniningasic is not responding... I would like to order some units, but only with good references, good communication and fast delivery. lightningasic / asiabtc / Jack - is it the same person? don't place an order until the three guys on here that have orders in actually get proof of shipping. they put orders in almost two weeks ago and paid up front and stil have not received any tracking numbers. we have faith in Jack but not enuf faith to send him any money at this points until he proves himself ... bottom line is this: DON'T SEND HIM ANY MONEY YET!
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lightningasic (OP)
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May 15, 2014, 02:47:34 PM |
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So how it is with delivery? It seems that 3-5 days is not valid and lightniningasic is not responding... I would like to order some units, but only with good references, good communication and fast delivery. lightningasic / asiabtc / Jack - is it the same person? don't place an order until the three guys on here that have orders in actually get proof of shipping. they put orders in almost two weeks ago and paid up front and stil have not received any tracking numbers. we have faith in Jack but not enuf faith to send him any money at this points until he proves himself ... bottom line is this: DON'T SEND HIM ANY MONEY YET! we have many customers who received their orders, stop posting negative feedback without even ordering from us. you can contact us on skype we cant force members to post reviews here
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www.Lightningasic.com - SCRYPT ASIC Store Contact me on skype : tech.andy Andy LA [We dont give BTC address over SKYPE!]
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lightningasic (OP)
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May 15, 2014, 02:49:53 PM |
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you can all write email to la.paymenttrack@gmail.com and aks for tracking, sometimes package is sent without emailing the tracking, stop beeing so negative.
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www.Lightningasic.com - SCRYPT ASIC Store Contact me on skype : tech.andy Andy LA [We dont give BTC address over SKYPE!]
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jjj0923
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May 15, 2014, 03:00:18 PM |
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you can all write email to la.paymenttrack@gmail.com and aks for tracking, sometimes package is sent without emailing the tracking, stop beeing so negative. sorry Jack - you leave us no alternative - packages sent without tracking numbers is bullshit. I don't know where you come from but even people selling $10 items on ebay supply tracking numbers... It aint rocket science!
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elaramus
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May 15, 2014, 03:33:16 PM |
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you can all write email to la.paymenttrack@gmail.com and aks for tracking, sometimes package is sent without emailing the tracking, stop beeing so negative. I've sent the e-mail as requested... And I'm in full agreement with jj, a customer shouldn't have to ask for a tracking number. A good vendor would provide one without prompting.
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braindead
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May 15, 2014, 03:38:44 PM |
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you can all write email to la.paymenttrack@gmail.com and aks for tracking, sometimes package is sent without emailing the tracking, stop beeing so negative. I´m your customer, i wrote several emails, i never got an answer I ordered one controller board for Dragon miner, payed by BTC, and never received the tracking neither the product, i requested a refund and no answer to my emails and no refund I ordered 3 units LA30 payed by Wire transfer, several emails send and no answer to my emails if this is a normal behavior on your company you should really improve it, it´s called customer support and until now it´s bad
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lightningasic (OP)
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May 15, 2014, 03:46:04 PM |
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you can all write email to la.paymenttrack@gmail.com and aks for tracking, sometimes package is sent without emailing the tracking, stop beeing so negative. sorry Jack - you leave us no alternative - packages sent without tracking numbers is bullshit. I don't know where you come from but even people selling $10 items on ebay supply tracking numbers... It aint rocket science! @jjj0923 1. I'm not jack 2. I didnt said packages are sent wihtout tracking, i said tracking is not sent to customer sometimes 3. U never ordered from us, so ill just ignore you from now on, you just troll @braindead please come to skype tech.nady , ill try to help you out, stop feeding the trolls thank you
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www.Lightningasic.com - SCRYPT ASIC Store Contact me on skype : tech.andy Andy LA [We dont give BTC address over SKYPE!]
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jjj0923
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May 15, 2014, 03:50:11 PM |
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you can all write email to la.paymenttrack@gmail.com and aks for tracking, sometimes package is sent without emailing the tracking, stop beeing so negative. sorry Jack - you leave us no alternative - packages sent without tracking numbers is bullshit. I don't know where you come from but even people selling $10 items on ebay supply tracking numbers... It aint rocket science! @jjj0923 1. I'm not jack 2. I didnt said packages are sent wihtout tracking, i said tracking is not sent to customer sometimes 3. U never ordered from us, so ill just ignore you from now on, you just troll @braindead please come to skype tech.nady , ill try to help you out, stop feeding the trolls thank you as you wish - you just lost an order you arrogant asshole and Simon fro Hashra just picked up another order. xie xie
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braindead
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May 16, 2014, 12:29:44 AM |
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you can all write email to la.paymenttrack@gmail.com and aks for tracking, sometimes package is sent without emailing the tracking, stop beeing so negative. sorry Jack - you leave us no alternative - packages sent without tracking numbers is bullshit. I don't know where you come from but even people selling $10 items on ebay supply tracking numbers... It aint rocket science! @jjj0923 1. I'm not jack 2. I didnt said packages are sent wihtout tracking, i said tracking is not sent to customer sometimes 3. U never ordered from us, so ill just ignore you from now on, you just troll @braindead please come to skype tech.nady , ill try to help you out, stop feeding the trolls thank you Same situation as before No emails, no answer on skype and no answer on pm´s Who is trolling who ??
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jjj0923
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May 16, 2014, 12:31:02 AM |
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you can all write email to la.paymenttrack@gmail.com and aks for tracking, sometimes package is sent without emailing the tracking, stop beeing so negative. sorry Jack - you leave us no alternative - packages sent without tracking numbers is bullshit. I don't know where you come from but even people selling $10 items on ebay supply tracking numbers... It aint rocket science! @jjj0923 1. I'm not jack 2. I didnt said packages are sent wihtout tracking, i said tracking is not sent to customer sometimes 3. U never ordered from us, so ill just ignore you from now on, you just troll @braindead please come to skype tech.nady , ill try to help you out, stop feeding the trolls thank you Same situation as before No emails, no answer on skype and no answer on pm´s Who is trolling who ?? I feel for you - having to deal with this arrogant loser. I placed an order with another company today for 3 of these types of miners.
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lightningasic (OP)
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May 16, 2014, 08:35:42 AM |
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Hello, i have talked with Jack last night and we managed to answer all emails , we shipped all LA90 orders, a few LA30 orders too.
For the people who didnt receive their LA30 on time, we will pay 3 LTC / day until we ship , starting today.
We had some components delayed but as u can see, we compensate.
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www.Lightningasic.com - SCRYPT ASIC Store Contact me on skype : tech.andy Andy LA [We dont give BTC address over SKYPE!]
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