Bitmain S2 vs Spondoolies SP10

[nikolaz]

My only worry is summer time... at 30C ambient temperature I believe SP10 will perform better compare to S2 (please correct me if I am wrong please correct me)

Can you imagine if all of these companies delivered on time, we would be having a discussion about SP10 vs S2 vs Neptune vs TerraMiner IV vs CoinCraft Rig etc but sad thing is there are only less than handful companies deliver quality miners on time.
 

[HorseRider]

The best strategy is to buy a S1 first, and then you will get a coupon worth 400 USD; then you use this 400 USD coupon to buy S2, so you will spend 2599-400+220=2419 USD to get 1000+180=1180 GH/s

[tzortz]

Brilliant, didn't think of that.

[RoadStress]

Bitmain S2 vs Spondoolies SP10 = In Stock vs PreOrder

It's a semi pre-order because until now we had pre-orders for non-existing products. SP10 is a very real and good product.

The best strategy is to buy a S1 first, and then you will get a coupon worth 400 USD; then you use this 400 USD coupon to buy S2, so you will spend 2599-400+220=2419 USD to get 1000+180=1180 GH/s

Which is 2.11$/GH compared to 2.13$/GH if you buy a SP10 from my Group Buy.

[xingqiaoyin]

Bitmain S2 vs Spondoolies SP10 = In Stock vs PreOrder

It's a semi pre-order because until now we had pre-orders for non-existing products. SP10 is a very real and good product.

The best strategy is to buy a S1 first, and then you will get a coupon worth 400 USD; then you use this 400 USD coupon to buy S2, so you will spend 2599-400+220=2419 USD to get 1000+180=1180 GH/s

Which is 2.11$/GH compared to 2.13$/GH if you buy a SP10 from my Group Buy.

More like 2.05/Ghs vs 2.13/Ghs

[philipma1957]

Hands down the s-1 still has the advantage for USA buyers.

First consider tax law.    spending .5 btc you need only say you spent the dollar amount that is.. today  it is 223 usd.

Both the sp10 and s2 are more then 600 usd.  so a longer paper trail is required by the usa gov.

Second you can get good psu's like this one


http://www.rakuten.com/prod/evga-supernova-1300-g2-1300w-power-supply-110-v-ac-220-v-ac-input/249973555.html


195 usd  runs 3 s-1's over clocked to  200gh…….  so you have 600gh with power for about  850 usd  . 

you can under clock it and get a fourth one to run on the same psu.

The sp10 and all 1th units don't have a lot of flexibility .

  They don't have a big power edge.    think of the older AM blades  they burned tons of watts 110-150 for 11gh  10 to 13 watts a gh.

An s-1 standard clock burns 2.  under clock + pencil mod under volt it burns less then 1.4 watts .. a gh

The s-2 and sp10 do not jump from  1.4 to .3 watts


11 watts / 2 = 5.5x improvement   AM blade to s-1

2 watts / .7 = 2.867 improvement   S-1 to sp10    with the settings of full volts to the s-1 and low volts to the sp10

1.25 /.7    = 1.785x improvement  s-1 to sp10    with both set at lowest volts.


 Also  you can turn a s-1 off and so what it was not much money.

You will not want to do that with an sp10

Such a mess on your post. First of all it's S2 vs SP10. S1 can be ignored.

You praise the S1 for being able to go from 2W to 1.4W with underclock and then you compare the improvement of S1 with the improvement of SP10 when downclocking. Who in the hell compares that on 2 miners? You are truly unique.

Liking the S1 for the fact that it didn't cost much so you can easily throw it at garbage tells a lot of your way of thinking.

I like you bro. I also like the sp10  .  let me buy one with a cc  at 1800 to 2000usd and have delivered it to my home in three or four days and I would have one of them mining right now

 The fact remains I can't buy one for 1800 to 2000. with a cc and get it in four days. I have to create more tax work when I file to buy it.
 I also am in the same shape if I buy a S-2.  NO CC or PP

I have two options buy s-1's 1 or 2 at a time. No extra tax work.  Order monday get it friday.

So Monday the 5th I order 2 S-1's 400 gh for 1 btc I get them Fri the 9th .
 I  can make 3 separate orders on monday the 5th each for 2 machine total of 1.2th total of 3 btc or  about 1320 usd


Buy 2 of the evga 1300 watt psus 400 usd .  So for 1732 usd I am hashing on fri the 9th at 1.2 th using 2400 watts


Buy your sp10 on  may 5th for 3200  When do I hash??

Buy the s2 on may 5th for 2200 usd (I have 6 coupons) it hashes on sat the 10th.

So buying your machine I have at least 7 maybe 10 days  longer wait time before I hash.

Buying the S-1 I hash in quicker time and as a garage hasher I have the ability to set up the 6 s-1's.

As A USA buyer no extra tax issues.
I have 6  running as I type.  they pull 1.2th and pull 2400 watts they are earning 33 usd a day and they burn 9 dollars in power. 

So they gain 24 bucks a day.

 your machine would cost me 1500 usd more to have THEN 6 s-1's  with the evga psu's.

 I would need 10 to 12 days to own one.  I love your gear but not the price or the wait.

[tzortz]

Lets be serious, the thread is for countering similar machines, with similar consuming characteristics.

S1 is not included for various reasons.

[Dans]

I have both S2 and SP10 in my racks...

SP10 is second to none in build quality and reliability.

S2 was built to be a cheap box they can just toss at customers and lower the price as needed -- like the S1.    

My S2 arrived as a pile of parts, i had to reassmble it and 4 of the hash boards were damaged in shipping so its hash as about 600 GH/s.  Trying to get replacements but communication is difficult.

SP10's are super high quality, very solid performers and a bit better power efficiency.    The web interface is very straight forward and simple to configure.

@ $3200 SP10 group buy VS $2599 for the S2, i would (and did) pay the extra money and buy the SP10 all day long.   Both should ship within a week or two.

[thomashrev89]

I have both S2 and SP10 in my racks...

SP10 is second to none in build quality and reliability.

S2 was built to be a cheap box they can just toss at customers and lower the price as needed -- like the S1.    

My S2 arrived as a pile of parts, i had to reassmble it and 4 of the hash boards were damaged in shipping so its hash as about 600 GH/s.  Trying to get replacements but communication is difficult.

SP10's are super high quality, very solid performers and a bit better power efficiency.    The web interface is very straight forward and simple to configure.

@ $3200 SP10 group buy VS $2599 for the S2, i would (and did) pay the extra money and buy the SP10 all day long.   Both should ship within a week or two.

Second that. Spondoolies is the mercedes of mining hardware. s2 is a cheap nissan sunny.

[Biffa]

I have both S2 and SP10 in my racks...

SP10 is second to none in build quality and reliability.

S2 was built to be a cheap box they can just toss at customers and lower the price as needed -- like the S1.    

My S2 arrived as a pile of parts, i had to reassmble it and 4 of the hash boards were damaged in shipping so its hash as about 600 GH/s.  Trying to get replacements but communication is difficult.

SP10's are super high quality, very solid performers and a bit better power efficiency.    The web interface is very straight forward and simple to configure.

@ $3200 SP10 group buy VS $2599 for the S2, i would (and did) pay the extra money and buy the SP10 all day long.   Both should ship within a week or two.

Second that. Spondoolies is the mercedes of mining hardware. s2 is a cheap nissan sunny.

WTF these are bitcoin miners, as long as they do their job as specced who cares what they look or "feel" like?

[9feet]

I have both S2 and SP10 in my racks...

SP10 is second to none in build quality and reliability.

S2 was built to be a cheap box they can just toss at customers and lower the price as needed -- like the S1.    

My S2 arrived as a pile of parts, i had to reassmble it and 4 of the hash boards were damaged in shipping so its hash as about 600 GH/s.  Trying to get replacements but communication is difficult.

SP10's are super high quality, very solid performers and a bit better power efficiency.    The web interface is very straight forward and simple to configure.

@ $3200 SP10 group buy VS $2599 for the S2, i would (and did) pay the extra money and buy the SP10 all day long.   Both should ship within a week or two.

Second that. Spondoolies is the mercedes of mining hardware. s2 is a cheap nissan sunny.

WTF these are bitcoin miners, as long as they do their job as specced who cares what they look or "feel" like?

+1

[tzortz]

WTF these are bitcoin miners, as long as they do their job as specced who cares what they look or "feel" like?

Here we go again.

How do they do their job when you need to carry a dozen of SD cards and replace every time you need to reboot?

You need to pray also, I forgot it.

[Dans]

I have both S2 and SP10 in my racks...

SP10 is second to none in build quality and reliability.

S2 was built to be a cheap box they can just toss at customers and lower the price as needed -- like the S1.    

My S2 arrived as a pile of parts, i had to reassmble it and 4 of the hash boards were damaged in shipping so its hash as about 600 GH/s.  Trying to get replacements but communication is difficult.

SP10's are super high quality, very solid performers and a bit better power efficiency.    The web interface is very straight forward and simple to configure.

@ $3200 SP10 group buy VS $2599 for the S2, i would (and did) pay the extra money and buy the SP10 all day long.   Both should ship within a week or two.

Second that. Spondoolies is the mercedes of mining hardware. s2 is a cheap nissan sunny.

WTF these are bitcoin miners, as long as they do their job as specced who cares what they look or "feel" like?

I want to know my stuff will work when i get it and i'm willing to pay reasonable premium to ensure that.  I'm still trying to get the S2 repaired so it is definitely not working as specced.   I know that Spondoolies-Tech would overnight me a replacement box if i received a DOA or damaged box.   They are a top notch company that will stand behind, and are proud of their product.

The S2 definitely has its place and they will sell A LOT of them, but not everyone has the same objectives.

[tzortz]

Guys , the S2 is a hobbying toy where you need to babysit all the time.
Checking its temperature, changing its diapers ...err..  SD cards, disconnect from LAN and connect it directly with your PC to make changes to configuration, etc.

On the other hand, SP10 is similar to a heavy duty industrial PLC  ready to work 24/7 with duty cycle of higher than 120%.

[RoadStress]

Buy 2 of the evga 1300 watt psus 400 usd .  So for 1732 usd I am hashing on fri the 9th at 1.2 th using 2400 watts

You are doing it wrong! For 2400watts you could be hashing at 2.8Th.

[dropt]

Second that. Spondoolies is the mercedes of mining hardware. s2 is a cheap nissan sunny.

WTF these are bitcoin miners, as long as they do their job as specced who cares what they look or "feel" like?

+1

+1.   

[dropt]

Guys , the S2 is a hobbying toy where you need to babysit all the time.
Checking its temperature, changing its diapers ...err..  SD cards, disconnect from LAN and connect it directly with your PC to make changes to configuration, etc.

On the other hand, SP10 is similar to a heavy duty industrial PLC  ready to work 24/7 with duty cycle of higher than 120%.

Buy a high quality SD Card throw it in there and don't be an idiot by pulling the plug to turn it off.  I'll see about the direct connection issue when I get my S2s on Monday, but I doubt I'm going to have to disconnect it from the LAN and directly connect to it if I ever need to access the GUI.  There will be a one-time direct configuration, that's it.

[tzortz]

Guys , the S2 is a hobbying toy where you need to babysit all the time.
Checking its temperature, changing its diapers ...err..  SD cards, disconnect from LAN and connect it directly with your PC to make changes to configuration, etc.

On the other hand, SP10 is similar to a heavy duty industrial PLC  ready to work 24/7 with duty cycle of higher than 120%.

Buy a high quality SD Card throw it in there and don't be an idiot by pulling the plug to turn it off.  I'll see about the direct connection issue when I get my S2s on Monday, but I doubt I'm going to have to disconnect it from the LAN and directly connect to it if I ever need to access the GUI.  There will be a one-time direct configuration, that's it.

I have tried many times to to turn it off with various ways, but still card gets corrupted from times to times. I cant figure out how to safely disconnect it.
I tried to remove first the ethernet, let it finish its work and after that switch off. Even though still gets in the same problem.

I am reading on the S2 thread also, but maybe I need to buy different cards and test again.

[dropt]

Guys , the S2 is a hobbying toy where you need to babysit all the time.
Checking its temperature, changing its diapers ...err..  SD cards, disconnect from LAN and connect it directly with your PC to make changes to configuration, etc.

On the other hand, SP10 is similar to a heavy duty industrial PLC  ready to work 24/7 with duty cycle of higher than 120%.

Buy a high quality SD Card throw it in there and don't be an idiot by pulling the plug to turn it off.  I'll see about the direct connection issue when I get my S2s on Monday, but I doubt I'm going to have to disconnect it from the LAN and directly connect to it if I ever need to access the GUI.  There will be a one-time direct configuration, that's it.

I have tried many times to to turn it off with various ways, but still card gets corrupted from times to times. I cant figure out how to safely disconnect it.
I tried to remove first the ethernet, let it finish its work and after that switch off. Even though still gets in the same problem.

I am reading on the S2 thread also, but maybe I need to buy different cards and test again.

Have you figured out how to access the machine through SSH?  Just use the CLI shutdown command and wait a minute.

[tzortz]

Guys , the S2 is a hobbying toy where you need to babysit all the time.
Checking its temperature, changing its diapers ...err..  SD cards, disconnect from LAN and connect it directly with your PC to make changes to configuration, etc.

On the other hand, SP10 is similar to a heavy duty industrial PLC  ready to work 24/7 with duty cycle of higher than 120%.

Buy a high quality SD Card throw it in there and don't be an idiot by pulling the plug to turn it off.  I'll see about the direct connection issue when I get my S2s on Monday, but I doubt I'm going to have to disconnect it from the LAN and directly connect to it if I ever need to access the GUI.  There will be a one-time direct configuration, that's it.

I have tried many times to to turn it off with various ways, but still card gets corrupted from times to times. I cant figure out how to safely disconnect it.
I tried to remove first the ethernet, let it finish its work and after that switch off. Even though still gets in the same problem.

I am reading on the S2 thread also, but maybe I need to buy different cards and test again.

Have you figured out how to access the machine through SSH?  Just use the CLI shutdown command and wait a minute.

I have read it , but not tried it yet. I will try and re-test. Thanks.