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August 20, 2014, 11:16:45 PM
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For those that have trouble understanding euphemisms:

-  "Expand" = Bringing in someone that actually knows what he is doing.
-  "Another set of capable hands" = Bringing in someone who actually knows what he is doing.

Oh I'll keep on translating...

Translate teamwork, respect, optimistic.

Key aspects you seem to severely lack. since you claimed to have invested in this coin I will respect you for that. You also have the right to be cautious too, that i agree on with you.

However, calling people clowns or worst judge someone you have never met, yet here you are bashing away. I previously mentioned this: You are harsh and quick to judge.
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August 20, 2014, 11:22:37 PM
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Popcorn.gif  *in before long rant from barb  Roll Eyes
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August 20, 2014, 11:25:49 PM
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get very valuable technology that no other crypto coin has

So if no other Crypto has it then there is no historical proof to back up that it will raise the price. If this technology is as good as your saying it would have been released already.

The devs admitedly are important for the price in the short term but long term it's more about the services built around the coin that will raise the price. I'm learning to code myself for this exact reason. Also if we are wanting to become a currency that is used for everyday purchases then we should be focusing our attention on knocking down the barriers of entry to purchase Vericoin. The proposed idea of Veribit in reverse using coinbase to give the illusion that it is a direct purchase is a brilliant idea from the devs.

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August 20, 2014, 11:44:25 PM
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For those that have trouble understanding euphemisms:

-  "Expand" = Bringing in someone that actually knows what he is doing.
-  "Another set of capable hands" = Bringing in someone who actually knows what he is doing.

Oh I'll keep on translating...

Weren't you just all about a supposed "Vericoin Day"?
Seems someone is butthurt that their idea is not going to happen.

I was all about doing something to get somewhere.

I withdrew of "my idea" shortly after corroborating that it did not have the enthusiastic support I demanded (and the idea required), from the dev team.

Oh and I was as critic as you can be of three stooges running this project long before I tried to salvage it, so nothing to do with "Vericoin Day".
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August 20, 2014, 11:52:20 PM
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[...]I am quite sure you will find some way of having me illustrated on the subject?

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August 21, 2014, 12:02:18 AM
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For those that have trouble understanding euphemisms:

-  "Expand" = Bringing in someone that actually knows what he is doing.
-  "Another set of capable hands" = Bringing in someone who actually knows what he is doing.

Oh I'll keep on translating...

Translate teamwork, respect, optimistic.

Key aspects you seem to severely lack. since you claimed to have invested in this coin I will respect you for that. You also have the right to be cautious too, that i agree on with you.

However, calling people clowns or worst judge someone you have never met, yet here you are bashing away. I previously mentioned this: You are harsh and quick to judge.


OK. Teamwork here = Socal and the cheerleaders shout "Go Patrick" while Nokster hits the bathroom during a hangout.

Respect = You quietly post 10 times that VRC will be @ 100k sat in the relatively near future, because it has "great devs that always deliver" (Huh??)

Optimistic = 100% certified delusional. Or Raevon, whichever comes first.

It is quite preposterous that you would pretend to even remotely know anything about what I lack and don't. Like respecting someone for investing in a coin (wow!).

I tend to call clowns, well clowns -an endearing profession worth of all my respect and then some, by the way-. The stooges were kind of clowns so I will accept that. It would be an insult, or even disrespect, if applied to someone or a team that has clear objectives and an equal clear path to, right or wrongly, go towards it. The Stooges never had that. Instead, they went around doing the craziest things will doing nothing at all... sounds familiar? Yes I am a bit harsh... only after corroboration, though. Quick to judge? I don't know, in crypto things go way faster than in the real world and if you got nothing to bring to the table it is up there, in open sight for all to know within a very short period of time.

I will remind you though that I have praised this team in the recent past for their honesty and transparency, which have set new standards in those departments in crypto. I have even supported -although there's no merit in it for they had no other choice- the  roll back. But if we are to call a spade a spade (and I am bound to do just that), everyone and his aunt knows by now that these three have nothing in the tech aspect to bring to VRC, nothing at all of any significance. True and proven I would call that rather than your choice, but hey, you have your way and I have mine. Quite frankly, there are no synergies in them so, respectfully, I'll disagree with your assessment.

I know you'd appreciate the nice ribbon.

Enjoy your popcorn.
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August 21, 2014, 12:04:29 AM
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So if no other Crypto has it then there is no historical proof to back up that it will raise the price. If this technology is as good as your saying it would have been released already.

The devs admitedly are important for the price in the short term but long term it's more about the services built around the coin that will raise the price. I'm learning to code myself for this exact reason. Also if we are wanting to become a currency that is used for everyday purchases then we should be focusing our attention on knocking down the barriers of entry to purchase Vericoin. The proposed idea of Veribit in reverse using coinbase to give the illusion that it is a direct purchase is a brilliant idea from the devs.


Really? To create the illusion that you are doing something that you are NOT doing, in other words, to con the people, with an idea already implemented by others, is a "brilliant idea from the devs"? Really? Wow!
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August 21, 2014, 12:18:25 AM
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Jesus Barabbass....spam much?

Why do you feel the need to post mutliple times on the same page?
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August 21, 2014, 12:22:24 AM
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Jesus Barabbass....spam much?

Why do you feel the need to post mutliple times on the same page?

It sounds like a good idea at the time? Why do you post at all? You never ever have anything relevant to say...
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August 21, 2014, 12:52:25 AM
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It sounds like a good idea at the time? Why do you post at all? You never ever have anything relevant to say...

Barabbas, if there is 1 thing I have you give you credit for - it's the fact you've been posting with the same style since you joined BTCtalk.org 8 months ago. I went back and looked at your first posts which was something around Jan 2014 and yeah... seriously since your very first post you've had the same looooooooooooooooong rants of nonsense. You crazy Spaniard
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August 21, 2014, 01:06:53 AM
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It sounds like a good idea at the time? Why do you post at all? You never ever have anything relevant to say...

Barabbas, if there is 1 thing I have you give you credit for - it's the fact you've been posting with the same style since you joined BTCtalk.org 8 months ago. I went back and looked at your first posts which was something around Jan 2014 and yeah... seriously since your very first post you've had the same looooooooooooooooong rants of nonsense. You crazy Spaniard

i think he is Asian.. he always starts posting when Asia wakes up, or is he?
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August 21, 2014, 01:08:56 AM
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i think he is Asian.. he always starts posting when Asia wakes up, or is he?

Nah he's from Spain
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August 21, 2014, 01:44:34 AM
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It sounds like a good idea at the time? Why do you post at all? You never ever have anything relevant to say...

Barabbas, if there is 1 thing I have you give you credit for - it's the fact you've been posting with the same style since you joined BTCtalk.org 8 months ago. I went back and looked at your first posts which was something around Jan 2014 and yeah... seriously since your very first post you've had the same looooooooooooooooong rants of nonsense. You crazy Spaniard

I don't know why you guys like to give Barrabas so much shit. I don't agree with everything he says but at least he says SOMETHING. You guys are complaining about him posting information, criticism, idea etc. You call them long rants, they're not really that long..

You guys on the other hand are saying nothing, nothing at all.

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August 21, 2014, 01:51:49 AM
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It sounds like a good idea at the time? Why do you post at all? You never ever have anything relevant to say...

Barabbas, if there is 1 thing I have you give you credit for - it's the fact you've been posting with the same style since you joined BTCtalk.org 8 months ago. I went back and looked at your first posts which was something around Jan 2014 and yeah... seriously since your very first post you've had the same looooooooooooooooong rants of nonsense. You crazy Spaniard

I don't know why you guys like to give Barrabas so much shit. I don't agree with everything he says but at least he says SOMETHING. You guys are complaining about him posting information, criticism, idea etc. You call them long rants, they're not really that long..

You guys on the other hand are saying nothing, nothing at all.

Actually I agree with barabbas about 45% of the time | 25% of the time i disagree | and 25% of the time I have no clue what he's trying to say.

Also, I'm not quite sure why you are calling me out for "not saying anything at all"... I just threw a 3 page post on here yesterday about my thoughts on VRC.

About 90% of my posts are me just having fun any way - most the time I'm just joking around.
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I don't know why you guys like to give Barrabas so much shit. I don't agree with everything he says but at least he says SOMETHING. You guys are complaining about him posting information, criticism, idea etc. You call them long rants, they're not really that long..

You guys on the other hand are saying nothing, nothing at all.

Now this is a long rant =p Please note the time & date. Just in case you missed it.

Here are my thoughts on the current situation, if anyone cares to read. Even after all the bull&%$# that we call the last 6 weeks – I’m still bullish on VRC. Now you might call me a bagholder or a cheerleader but the truth of matter is; I am far from either. Yes, I’m down on my investment but not down as much as one might think. There was a point not too long ago where I was down a lot… or at least what I would call a lot. But I haven’t just bought & held VRC – I actively trade it. So to go full disclosure on everyone here for a moment I just did the math and with VRC currently trading at 0.00009/BTC I’m down maybe $750. To me, that’s not much. I could walk away today and not lose any sleep over that. I’ve made some really good trades even with the way things have gone over the last 6 weeks – so that has really helped. Have I had my frustrations with the dev team and the way they handle things? Of course. Do I sit in my chair and cringe over some of the mistakes I’ve seen over the last 6 weeks? Again, that would be a yes. I could probably write another 5 paragraphs just on the things that have pissed me off over the last 6 weeks but the reality of it is; that wouldn’t help. I used to bitch, a lot, like many of us here. But after doing some PMing with Socal (who by the way was one of the people I used to bitch about) I actually learned something. Yes that’s right – thanks to bitcointalk.org somebody actually learned something; it wasn’t helping anyone coming here to bitch like a baby. So instead of just whining about what I thought was wrong - I changed my mindset. I changed my attitude. And since that day, I’d like to think I’ve been much more of a help to both Vericoin, the Vericoin community and really to myself. 

Before I dive into my thoughts on Vericoin – I wanted to somewhat quickly share a brief background on myself. I’ve been in crypto currencies for almost 2 years now. I have been actively day trading bitcoin & altcoins for some 18 months. To a lesser degree I also do some stock trading/option trading although for the most part in the “real markets” I just buy & hold.  Although I don’t work in the finance industry, I have my series 7 and 66 license registered under FINRA. Outside of my enjoyment for trading – crypto currencies has been one of my biggest passions ever since I first discovered them back in 2012. I’m a very active member within my city (Minneapolis) with bitcoin. I have done public speaking on the topic, I actively volunteer my time to help business setup the ability to accept bitcoin, and I also host events in Minneapolis that typically have anywhere from 25 to 50+ people attend completely centered around bitcoin and crypto currencies as a whole.  Now, with behind us – I want to actually talk about Vericoin.

Reasons I am bullish on Vericoin.

#1. Veribit. Yes that’s right – Veribit. This was the first aspect of Vericoin that actually caught my attention. It seems to be a very trivial addition to the coin for many people. But for somebody who has been in the alternate coin world for a year and half, I really must tip my hat off to the dev team for making this possible. Yes I understand this wasn’t the most difficult programming in the world. But at the same time no one else up until that point had pulled it off. To have the ability to spend your coin anywhere that bitcoin is accepted, to me, is still one of the best features of Vericoin. It also shows me the dev team has the ability to think outside the box because again, up until Veribit – no one else had thought of it.

#2. The public dev team. I think for many people – this was one of the mean reasons they bought into the coin. With all the scams, pump & dumps, fly by night dev teams out there – to publically know who is behind the coin to me is almost priceless. It provides peace of mind knowing that they are in for the long haul and that they are also not afraid to put themselves out there. Not only that, but these guys are obviously intelligent individuals. I know they have made some big mistakes from a marketing point of view over the last couple of months, but you know what? These guys aren’t marketing experts. And they shouldn’t be. The mistakes that they have made are correctable. You have to break some eggs to make an omelet. If the dev team continued to make mistakes that actually had to do with developing the wallet – I’d be more concerned. But they are working on removing themselves from the marketing side of the project so they can focus more attention on what it is they do best; develop crypto currencies. They have put themselves in a unique position where every decision they make is public, everyone is watching them under a microscope – and it’s not an easy feat. But to go back to the main point here: having a public development team that is active within the community adds SUCH a level of comfort to investors; again I don’t think you can put a price on that.

#3. The market cap. Right now Vericoin is valued at $1.17 million. Which is peanuts in reality. In the crypto coin world $1.17 million to me is a sweet spot that tells me: this coin isn’t going anywhere, yet there is a lot of room for improvement. I’d much rather take my chances with a coin valued around $1-2 million with the hopes it can break into the top ten vs. jumping on board with a more valued coin like Litecoin or even Darkcoin where to get the same kind of 1,000% return I’m looking for would call for a marketing cap in the $900 million – $1 billion range. I went through and look at all the coins in the $500,000 - $5,000,000 range for market cap (just now, as I was writing this) and I can’t find another coin that I would rather take my bet on to see where it can go. It’s not to say there aren’t other great projects out there, because I know there are – but given the other reason I have listed (and am about to list) I feel Vericoin gives me one of the best chances to get a 500%-1,000% return on my investment. To me that’s worth the risk. 

#4. The community. Yeah I know – bitcointalk.org hasn’t been the best reflection of the great community Vericoin has. But man they really do have an AWESOME community. I’ve seen it first hand as I have been receiving donation after donation for the event I have coming up on 8/30/14. There are some very passionate individuals behind this project outside of the dev team – and while some of you may call them “cheerleaders” just to belittle them, truth be told; they are essential for the coins long term success. Vericoin like any crypto currencies is just an idea at in its simplest form. Any idea can succeed when 1 person believes in it. As long as 1 person continues to believe in an idea, any idea, that candle continues to burn. And you never know who that person may talk to, who that person may come across that will take that burning candle and light a candle of their own. I know there are many, many alternate coins out there that have passionate followers. But unlike a lot of those other coins Vericoin has gone through some seriously rough &%$# over the last 6 weeks and guess what? People still continue to stand behind the coin. If there can be this many people still standing behind a project when it seems like seriously nothing has gone right – just want until things finally turn around and this coin start to succeed. Amazing things will come out of the support of the community.

#5.  Vericoin’s strategic partnerships. This will be my last point as I’m crossing over into the 3rd page of my writing. As I mentioned in point #3 I never felt as though the dev team has done a stellar job marketing the coin. Although again, I feel strongly this will change over time. Especially as they remove themselves from that aspect of the project and other marketing experts jump in to help. The one area that I do have to give them credit for (and a lot of it) is with their strategic partnerships with other companies within the crypto coin world. Not every seed that they have planted has turned out successful. Moolah.io is a big step in the right direction. It seems to be there are some other ideas in the mix. I know for a fact they have been trying very hard to continue to find companies to work with – and when you talk about making smart business decisions – this is one of them. It takes time for ideas to grow. Vericoin has only been around for some 6 months and look at all they have done. As they continue to grow and the crypto community continues to support them – those strategic partnerships will only continue to grow in strength.

If you’re still with me; thanks for listening to my rant. To quickly recap there are 5 points to take away from my point of view: out-of-the box thinking, public dev team, not too big/not too small market cap, great community, and making strategic partnerships. Is this the perfect equation for success? I guess time will tell. In the meantime I’m going to continue to publically support the coin and the team behind the coin because I don’t just see this as a possible great investment; I see this as a great addition to the crypto community as a whole. This is a project that I can confidently stand behind – and feel good about supporting.  Amen.

tldr; In my opinion Vericoin is doing a lot of things right and is still a great project to support. 

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August 21, 2014, 02:15:34 AM
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@ Xosihc - I won't re-quote that last post.

Whats long with such a long post? It's not like it was just one paragraph. It was basically a mini-essay, even with titles for each section.

Sometimes it takes a while to explain what you are trying to say, that is if you actually have something to say =P

I've made quite a few long rants in here myself. There is a lot to rant about with VRC it seems =P

Apparently not for the devs though.. My balls are getting so blue in anticipation for this announcement that it's getting ridiculous.

I mean, how long are they going to string this out? Negotiations are done, now what it's going to take several days to write up the announcement?? That's just rubbish and anyone who believes otherwise is kidding themselves.

The devs are stringing this out on purpose, there is no question.

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August 21, 2014, 02:16:32 AM
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he posts to litter the pages .. he has his agenda.. just ignore him there really no point to respond.. let him talk to himself Wink
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@ Xosihc - I won't re-quote that last post.

Whats long with such a long post? It's not like it was just one paragraph. It was basically a mini-essay, even with titles for each section.

Sometimes it takes a while to explain what you are trying to say, that is if you actually have something to say =P

I've made quite a few long rants in here myself. There is a lot to rant about with VRC it seems =P

Apparently not for the devs though.. My balls are getting so blue in anticipation for this announcement that it's getting ridiculous.

I mean, how long are they going to string this out? Negotiations are done, now what it's going to take several days to write up the announcement?? That's just rubbish and anyone who believes otherwise is kidding themselves.

The devs are stringing this out on purpose, there is no question.

my balls are turning gray.. lol.. me too - anticipating
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August 21, 2014, 02:33:58 AM
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Hello,
throwing 130 MH at veripool, (x11)
if some other goodfellas help me and point their rigs too, we will help verifund to sustain VRC price.
Hope not look like begging...but vericoin need a decent BUY SIDE on trex at least.
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i think he is Asian.. he always starts posting when Asia wakes up, or is he?

Nah he's from Spain

Actually I believe he is from Reseda, California, somewhere around/on Yolanda Ave.
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