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August 22, 2014, 03:14:37 PM
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With VeriBit, VeriSMS and soon VeriCard, it's not where can you use Vericoin.  It's where can't you. www.vericoin.info



why, after such news does not rise the price?

Because nobody has heard of the company they made a "huge" deal with. The company is smaller than 1 of the 30 websites I made spending a few hours of my time creating. Mind you I had zero website building experience, which I am sure is evident if you look at my websites. I am ranked 2million something on alexa. 3 + million ranks ahead of this company and I get about 750 visits a month on that website, so people can make judgement if this is a promise with legs, or another failure waiting to happen.

I can see it now, this looks like another wizrig moment.

This is not with wizrig.  Time will tell how real this is and you may regret your current stance.

My stance doesn't have to do with money. It has to do with ethics. This company raises many questions. If you can alleviate them all for the community it would be a great help. I would like to start with :

Who is behind this company?
What led you to make a partnership with them?
What makes you believe this unknown company will be a successful partnership for vericoin?
Are you confident making a close association with an unknown company is a good choice for what vericoin is as a brand?
Are vericoin investors going to be liable for all your personal business choices made on behalf of vericoin?
In future deals, will investors know what contracts are signed on behalf of their personal investments or will you continue to do this in privacy with 1 or 2 other minority investors?

We can start there and continue a constructive debate about this if you wish. I am sure the community would appreciate the honesty, instead of smoke and mirrors.

Doug, I will ask this every few pages until you tell me I am being unreasonable, or you give me some answers.

Thanks in advance for taking the time to clear up some uncertainty that should have been released already to the public as we all invested in this deal and still have no idea what it is aside from a picture.

We have a written agreement requiring that they deliver or else there is penalties for them.  I spoke with the lead programmer and business rep numerous times, they are legit and we are protected by the written agreement.  The marketing team has been aware of most of the details before signing.  They are community members.  If you don't like this don't order one, we aren't asking you buy4crypto, to do anything.
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August 22, 2014, 03:15:01 PM
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All im seeing is this user has been ignored :/ is it a new feature?

I'll let you know when he has a change of heart.

Honestly, the devs have been hard at work on this, as well at the rest of the road map. It's the "McDonalds" syndrome that we (especially Americans) have to have it now.

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August 22, 2014, 03:17:36 PM
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transparency, you can ask me anything, I have never hide a thing, I actually enjoy talking about myself because I am "special"

I have been a great athlete, When I was young I was in the junior olympics for martial arts.
I was a national champion indoor soccer player several years with my local club as a prominent member of the team as a striker.
As a business person, I have done well since my first sale of pixie sticks (sugar candy) to kids in elementary school.
I have excelled at nearly everything I have done in my life including finding a beautiful women to spend my life with.

So, Do I care about VRC, sure. I have 10 vericoin related websites that I will stand to profit from greatly one day is vericoin succeeds. Here is the thing, BS and promises don't get me where I want to go. So, my goal is to make vericoin the best coin in the world. If that means being unpopular with the cheerleaders for a bit while I ask tough questions that others ignore, so be it!

get some fresh air..before you get a stroke or something.. it always clears the head..

Would it be that bad if he gets a stroke? Rofl.
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August 22, 2014, 03:18:51 PM
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transparency, you can ask me anything, I have never hide a thing, I actually enjoy talking about myself because I am "special"

I have been a great athlete, When I was young I was in the junior olympics for martial arts.
I was a national champion indoor soccer player several years with my local club as a prominent member of the team as a striker.
As a business person, I have done well since my first sale of pixie sticks (sugar candy) to kids in elementary school.
I have excelled at nearly everything I have done in my life including finding a beautiful women to spend my life with.

So, Do I care about VRC, sure. I have 10 vericoin related websites that I will stand to profit from greatly one day is vericoin succeeds. Here is the thing, BS and promises don't get me where I want to go. So, my goal is to make vericoin the best coin in the world. If that means being unpopular with the cheerleaders for a bit while I ask tough questions that others ignore, so be it!

get some fresh air..before you get a stroke or something.. it always clears the head..

Would it be that bad if he gets a stroke? Rofl.

yes it is.. a life is always more valuable than a coin..
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August 22, 2014, 03:20:09 PM
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@buy4crypto are u mad too bro? How much did you invest? You should dev a coin and sign with JP Morgan Chase! You can get a special debit card that only buys toilet paper to whipe all the crap talked on these forums Wink . maybe change your name to buy4crapto?


@devs - great news guys. keep up the great work. I am happy with vericoin.

Am I mad? I may make millions of dollars holding not 1 vericoin if this thing does well. So, mad that this does well? Not at all.

Realistic about life / and what happens to amature business people when they go up to negotiate with real business people! Think about what just happened. This whole thing stinks. Why are people with no economics backgrounds negotiating deals on behalf of your investment in a decentralized virtual currency.

Will you answer me that? If you can convince me the deal they made on vericoin investors behalf is what crypto is all about, you will win. But you cannot. Nobody can, for any reason.

Amateur? Have you looked at this site: www.buy4crypto.com  Huh


[Pot calling the kettle black.]

I know what my websites are, terrible now! And yet they are driving more traffic than what coinsis is. Telling isn't it?

I just registered virtualcurrency.xyz as what I am going to spend a lot more resources developing. I'll redirect the other hundreds over to that one once complete next year. So things are looking up, those where all tests to learn web design, and get to know what I am going to be doing for the rest of my life, or what someone else will do for me soon Smiley

You don't need an economics background to negotiate a deal. Are you still in high school?


You are correct you can negotiate with a dog if you want. Actually, I dropped out of highschool to pursue business 15 years ago. I have a very fufilling life and haven't worked more than a few months of it for someone else. But the fact of the matter is, someone who is taught skills to negotiate, and someone who has not, will have a major result on the outcome.

You want to have these guys negotiating big mainstream deals for you?  They have yet to disclose terms. I have never seen a contract / deal signed on behalf of a company that was not disclosed. I ask a few simple questions, things everyone should want to know really and I am a "Fudder" Either you people are ignorant who say that, or are desperately cheerleading to pump it up a bit to dump as so many people been waiting weeks for this big news!

What is your problem? If you have a successful business why are you on here 24 hours a day? The way you rant and talk, mostly tripe, I'd prefer to have the VRC PhDs negotiating for me any day. If I sent you into a shop to buy me a carrot I'd be scared you would come back with a potato because you thought it would better for me. You've got a seriously unhealthy obsession with VRC for no obvious reason. You talk about being transparent etc. But how about you? Do you have your life savings invested in VRC, or CLOAK or something and you are upset?

Transparency, you can ask me anything, I have never hide a thing, I actually enjoy talking about myself because I am "special"

I don't have any VRC currently, I only hold a fraction of a btc right now, I spent 7 on hardware about a month ago and working on returns for that.

I have been a great athlete, When I was young I was in the junior olympics for martial arts.
I was a national champion indoor soccer player several years with my local club as a prominent member of the team as a striker.
As a business person, I have done well since my first sale of pixie sticks (sugar candy) to kids in elementary school.
I have excelled at nearly everything I have done in my life except for writing English.

So, Do I care about VRC, sure. I have 10+ vericoin related websites that I will stand to profit from greatly one day is vericoin succeeds. Here is the thing, BS and promises don't get me where I want to go. So, my goal is to make vericoin the best coin in the world. If that means being unpopular with the cheerleaders for a bit while I ask tough questions that others ignore, so be it!

Yawn. You do realize you will never, ever get what you want? With all the abuse you hurl at people, they don't take you seriously.
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August 22, 2014, 03:21:59 PM
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With VeriBit, VeriSMS and soon VeriCard, it's not where can you use Vericoin.  It's where can't you. www.vericoin.info



why, after such news does not rise the price?

Because nobody has heard of the company they made a "huge" deal with. The company is smaller than 1 of the 30 websites I made spending a few hours of my time creating. Mind you I had zero website building experience, which I am sure is evident if you look at my websites. I am ranked 2million something on alexa. 3 + million ranks ahead of this company and I get about 750 visits a month on that website, so people can make judgement if this is a promise with legs, or another failure waiting to happen.

I can see it now, this looks like another wizrig moment.

This is not with wizrig.  Time will tell how real this is and you may regret your current stance.

My stance doesn't have to do with money. It has to do with ethics. This company raises many questions. If you can alleviate them all for the community it would be a great help. I would like to start with :

Who is behind this company?
What led you to make a partnership with them?
What makes you believe this unknown company will be a successful partnership for vericoin?
Are you confident making a close association with an unknown company is a good choice for what vericoin is as a brand?
Are vericoin investors going to be liable for all your personal business choices made on behalf of vericoin?
In future deals, will investors know what contracts are signed on behalf of their personal investments or will you continue to do this in privacy with 1 or 2 other minority investors?

We can start there and continue a constructive debate about this if you wish. I am sure the community would appreciate the honesty, instead of smoke and mirrors.

Doug, I will ask this every few pages until you tell me I am being unreasonable, or you give me some answers.

Thanks in advance for taking the time to clear up some uncertainty that should have been released already to the public as we all invested in this deal and still have no idea what it is aside from a picture.

We have a written agreement requiring that they deliver or else there is penalties for them.  I spoke with the lead programmer and business rep numerous times, they are legit and we are protected by the written agreement.  The marketing team has been aware of most of the details before signing.  They are community members.  If you don't like this don't order one, we aren't asking you buy4crypto, to do anything.

I appreciate a generic response, but what is so hard about answering my questions, each with the individual attention they deserve. Anytime you mush enough words together for something speculative you can make it look great. That doesn't answer questions about What led you to make a partnership with them on behalf of the vericoin community. Let me remind you the people making these contracts, yourself and others maybe involved own a very small portion of the coins total. So effectively a small % is able to make a choice for everyone. You control the choices, and so giving us information is the least you could do.

Have you considered yourself as stepping into fiduciary role now for me, and other people with invested interested in VeriCoin? Is this a 1 off, or is deal making another thing that the vericoin developers will be doing for us, and presumably reaping the rewards for without the risk as you guys have covered yourselfs. Speaking to that point, personally protected, the coin is protected? Who is protected, with what protection?

We really need clarity when you sign these big deals on behalf of the community. As now you may be overstepping your role as a developer that people are comfetorable you having. and now stepping into a role as fiduciary, which in all honesty. I dont want you controlling my money and business descisions. I am happy with you all coding, and thats it. Perhaps if you let others make these deals, the coding and promises would be done, instead of piling on more promises, while current development lay idle.

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August 22, 2014, 03:23:47 PM
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With VeriBit, VeriSMS and soon VeriCard, it's not where can you use Vericoin.  It's where can't you. www.vericoin.info


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August 22, 2014, 03:26:04 PM
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@buy4crypto are u mad too bro? How much did you invest? You should dev a coin and sign with JP Morgan Chase! You can get a special debit card that only buys toilet paper to whipe all the crap talked on these forums Wink . maybe change your name to buy4crapto?


@devs - great news guys. keep up the great work. I am happy with vericoin.

Am I mad? I may make millions of dollars holding not 1 vericoin if this thing does well. So, mad that this does well? Not at all.

Realistic about life / and what happens to amature business people when they go up to negotiate with real business people! Think about what just happened. This whole thing stinks. Why are people with no economics backgrounds negotiating deals on behalf of your investment in a decentralized virtual currency.

Will you answer me that? If you can convince me the deal they made on vericoin investors behalf is what crypto is all about, you will win. But you cannot. Nobody can, for any reason.

Amateur? Have you looked at this site: www.buy4crypto.com  Huh


[Pot calling the kettle black.]

I know what my websites are, terrible now! And yet they are driving more traffic than what coinsis is. Telling isn't it?

I just registered virtualcurrency.xyz as what I am going to spend a lot more resources developing. I'll redirect the other hundreds over to that one once complete next year. So things are looking up, those where all tests to learn web design, and get to know what I am going to be doing for the rest of my life, or what someone else will do for me soon Smiley

You don't need an economics background to negotiate a deal. Are you still in high school?


You are correct you can negotiate with a dog if you want. Actually, I dropped out of highschool to pursue business 15 years ago. I have a very fufilling life and haven't worked more than a few months of it for someone else. But the fact of the matter is, someone who is taught skills to negotiate, and someone who has not, will have a major result on the outcome.

You want to have these guys negotiating big mainstream deals for you?  They have yet to disclose terms. I have never seen a contract / deal signed on behalf of a company that was not disclosed. I ask a few simple questions, things everyone should want to know really and I am a "Fudder" Either you people are ignorant who say that, or are desperately cheerleading to pump it up a bit to dump as so many people been waiting weeks for this big news!

What is your problem? If you have a successful business why are you on here 24 hours a day? The way you rant and talk, mostly tripe, I'd prefer to have the VRC PhDs negotiating for me any day. If I sent you into a shop to buy me a carrot I'd be scared you would come back with a potato because you thought it would better for me. You've got a seriously unhealthy obsession with VRC for no obvious reason. You talk about being transparent etc. But how about you? Do you have your life savings invested in VRC, or CLOAK or something and you are upset?

Transparency, you can ask me anything, I have never hide a thing, I actually enjoy talking about myself because I am "special"

I don't have any VRC currently, I only hold a fraction of a btc right now, I spent 7 on hardware about a month ago and working on returns for that.

I have been a great athlete, When I was young I was in the junior olympics for martial arts.
I was a national champion indoor soccer player several years with my local club as a prominent member of the team as a striker.
As a business person, I have done well since my first sale of pixie sticks (sugar candy) to kids in elementary school.
I have excelled at nearly everything I have done in my life except for writing English.

So, Do I care about VRC, sure. I have 10+ vericoin related websites that I will stand to profit from greatly one day is vericoin succeeds. Here is the thing, BS and promises don't get me where I want to go. So, my goal is to make vericoin the best coin in the world. If that means being unpopular with the cheerleaders for a bit while I ask tough questions that others ignore, so be it!

Yawn. You do realize you will never, ever get what you want? With all the abuse you hurl at people, they don't take you seriously.

Quote me where I am personally attacking anyone. I am actually one of the people who rose above all the 1 sided debates and tried to bring VRC back to healthy discussions for many, many attempts. But what is fun, is new people. They come on here attacking me, When I am one of the people who has been supporting this coin, and continues to do.

Read what I have said for months and take it literally. I am not here to make money. I am here to be successful. If you aim to make money, and you have a few vericoin, will you be rational? will you ask tough questions? You should be happy that people in this coin still can think rationally and move the coin forward. You all saw what chearleeding promises did for the coins value right? We don't need that again. But people wish to call me a troll, or paint whatever picture best fits the agenda they are putting out to promote the value of the investment they have.

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August 22, 2014, 03:27:09 PM
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Question, is this another future promise or worse a fake website?

I signed up, tested getting a card...

Apply here to get your own Bitcoin card.....  Just redirects you back to the login page.

Also they say since they are in beta they can't help you retrieve a password?

Just throwing up red flags already.

So has anyone signed up and started getting a card?  Or is this another it is coming thing with a webpage that could be made in 5 minutes by someone with web design skills or me in 30 minutes?


Edit - The need help button gives

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The resource requested could not be found on this server!


Like I said I understand a beta ( also they stated they just finished beta ) but this is like a site that could have been slapped together in 2 minutes so far.  But don't take my word go try and get a card or click around the 4 buttons on it and see.

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August 22, 2014, 03:32:57 PM
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Dang, look at buy4crypto go, he's more active than ever. I wonder why that is?
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This is what you choose to respond to with real questions being asked?

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August 22, 2014, 03:34:59 PM
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Dang, look at buy4crypto go, he's more active than ever. I wonder why that is?

You get a card yet?  go try

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Dang, look at buy4crypto go, he's more active than ever. I wonder why that is?

I don't make money on promises, pump and dumps, whatever you want to call them. I squat domains for longterm growth / value.

I took a chance on a few coins being real solutions to the future issues. That is why I bought a lot of Vericoin domains as part of diversifying my investments. So, for me, longterm growth is my reasoning to be here. I am sorry for those people with a 1 tract mind on shorterm growth. IE Pump and Dumps. If you find what I am saying upsets you. There is a good chance you are trading this coin and trying to get out at all costs. Because what my aim is with every post is to bring longterm value.

If I have to crack a few eggs to make an omlet so what. If I have to step on some daytraders toes to create longterm value, I'm okay with that.

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August 22, 2014, 03:36:21 PM
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Question, is this another future promise or worse a fake website?

I signed up, tested getting a card...

Apply here to get your own Bitcoin card.....  Just redirects you back to the login page.

Also they say since they are in beta they can't help you retrieve a password?

Just throwing up red flags already.

So has anyone signed up and started getting a card?  Or is this another it is coming thing with a webpage that could be made in 5 minutes by someone with web design skills or me in 30 minutes?

The answer is, Coinsis is a legit business. But that's not the full picture. It is not so hard to set up a payment provider business and join to a card scheme like VISA. That's why you can see so many start-up, all kind of lame business with the infrastructure issues you have pointed out role out debit and prepaid credit cards. I used to invest payment provider businesses, you can virtually set up one in 30 days including the card is ready for market.

This Coinsis venture is so not serious from vericoin viewpoint, that Coinsis have not even roled out the first BTC card. Sometimes (who knows when) will be the VRC card rolled out. And then what? Apart from existing bag holders and fanboys nobody will give a shit about the VRC VISA card. There are many BTC cards on the market.
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August 22, 2014, 03:41:28 PM
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Not going to quote a quote of a qoute

@buy4crypto - I have a great idea! Blackcoin is almost the same price as Vericoin. They just got a debit card and are in an atm machine. You should dump off all your vericoins and go all black... very nice community and very nice devs. They have been around longer so it might be more of your taste.

take the other guys complaining about every move with you... oh wait... some of them where complaining over there too?

Or sell all your crypto and just it to make your own coin. You can higher drkman's friend and you can do it all as you please. Make your own section in the forums and then we can bug u on a day to celebrate.


we can hit you with line like
"This is what you choose to respond to with real questions being asked?" When you were just having fun on a random post

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August 22, 2014, 03:42:41 PM
 #13956

Not going to quote a quote of a qoute

@buy4crypto - I have a great idea! Blackcoin is almost the same price as Vericoin. They just got a debit card and are in an atm machine. You should dump off all your vericoins and go all black... very nice community and very nice devs. They have been around longer so it might be more of your taste.

take the other guys complaining about every move with you... oh wait... some of them where complaining over there too?

Or sell all your crypto and just it to make your own coin. You can higher drkman's friend and you can do it all as you please. Make your own section in the forums and then we can bug u on a day to celebrate.


we can hit you with line like
"This is what you choose to respond to with real questions being asked?" When you were just having fun on a random post


Hmm, would it not be easier to just answer any questions people have?

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August 22, 2014, 03:44:04 PM
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This is what you choose to respond to with real questions being asked?

I responded to a number of your questions, probably missed it on the last page.
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answering is one thing but just forum bombing someone over and over is annoying

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August 22, 2014, 03:45:52 PM
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This is what you choose to respond to with real questions being asked?

I responded to a number of your questions, probably missed it on the last page.

I responded back asking for more details. That didn't answer anything I was trying to have answered. Kinda beat around the bush sending it all back to a community member with no further details.

With a contract signed sealed and delivered, should this information not be public knowledge for VeriCoin investors to be aware of more details?

At a mimimum the questions I asked should be covered, with room for follow up, as I have many more things to clarify for the community. And again, if you feel I am overstepping my rights. Please say so Doug. I never mean to disrespect you, though I can see how some many perceive that. I just want to know that this deal was done in good faith to the VRC community, and being such a big annoucement, or potentially. I think me, and other investors have a right to a solid feel of what was just signed on the behalf of vericoin investors.

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August 22, 2014, 03:46:05 PM
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answering is one thing but just forum bombing someone over and over is annoying

So go way, it's annoying you bombing here your annoyance Cheesy
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