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July 17, 2014, 02:36:41 AM |
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Because I own 0 VRC I am technically a neutral party giving my outside perspective.
Again you're officially dim. You have no idea what your subconscious is doing. The success of Vericoin will take buyers away from your coins. That's why you're here, and you don't even know it. It's like you live in a state of phantasmagoria where you don't know where you come from or where you're going.
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btminer8
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July 17, 2014, 02:40:51 AM |
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Because I own 0 VRC I am technically a neutral party giving my outside perspective. Take it for what it is worth, or you can cry about it. The choice is your. Mahalo, Smoothie I believe i have answered most of the questions in my own perspective and i dont have to repeat them again. Thank you for sharing your thoughts & criticisms. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Ultimately it is the investor own responsibility to do their own research and judgement before putting money into something.
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July 17, 2014, 02:41:47 AM |
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It is my opinion that users should make sure they understand the risks of investing into a particular crypto (i.e. VRC) and using unregulated exchanges like Mintpal. And that they should not invest more than they can afford to lose. As harsh as it sounds...mintpal should go out of business and users who got coins lost due to the hack should suffer the loss or at least attempt to get what they can recover from mint pal without the Ben Bernanke move the VRC developers made. This is not what has happened but it has set a precedent for the future. Be aware that the next time a large theft occurs there will be huge implications for the developers who created the path you are all on. This is just my personal opinion and not financial advice. Good luck to you all in your VRC development and investments.
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July 17, 2014, 02:42:47 AM |
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Because I own 0 VRC I am technically a neutral party giving my outside perspective. Take it for what it is worth, or you can cry about it. The choice is your. Mahalo, Smoothie I believe i have answered most of the questions in my own perspective and i dont have to repeat them again. Thank you for sharing your thoughts & criticisms. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Ultimately it is the investor own responsibility to do their own research and judgement before putting money into something.Awesome at least we agree on something.
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July 17, 2014, 02:43:10 AM |
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OMG, people are still talking about this scam coin. So sad.
Where's Ben Bernanke in all this. IS the dev even on the thread?
HAAH
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CodeHunter
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July 17, 2014, 02:43:41 AM |
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And anyways, Nosker called the 4 merchants who deal with Vericoin, and they didn't make a transaction for goods during the 12 hours. That's why the devs felt like the rollback was the best option. The coin is still young and didn't reverberate that much.
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July 17, 2014, 02:47:16 AM |
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I guess the 3-4 fudders who kept vrc at the top of the forums posting 12 hours straight 5 times a page finally all bought after getting their victims to sell to them.
Was actually very impressive how badly they wanted to buy. No sane person posts the way smoothie and crew did without needing/wanting to buy a substantial amount.
Why do people assume (and make accusations with no proof) that I wanted to buy a substantial amount of VRC? FULL DISCLOSURE: I own 0 VRC and will never buy a single one ever. REASONING: I would not ever want to be a part of the catastrophic effects of a rollback in the future should a massive hack/scam/theft happen related to VRC. My posting has much to do with pointing out BS and calling things as I see it. If you knew my reputation on this forum you would know what is how I operated from day 1. Tell me about which part of the rollback is catastrophic. In the future a merchant could take payment in VRC and a huge hack comes along...rollback...oops VRC gone from your wallet even thought you sold goods. Please explain to me how this is different from the risk every credit card accepting merchant faces every day. What risk are you talking about exactly? Chargeback. More commonly known to those outside the industry as a 'dispute'. Credit cards are weighted in the consumers' favor by a substantial margin, and having a transaction reversed is pretty commonplace. Selling goods or services for an agreed amount and then having the transaction reversed is pretty much a standard cost of business for any merchant, and occurs far more often than a rollback. Hell, more counterfeit currency is accepted daily than the total dollar amount of the transactions effected by the rollback. In other words, why should a merchant be afraid of a loss in a transaction when they already assume far greater risk of loss every day?
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July 17, 2014, 02:47:48 AM |
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OMG, people are still talking about this scam coin. So sad.
Where's Ben Bernanke in all this. IS the dev even on the thread?
HAAH
Youre laughing at other people who are talking about it, meanwhile you havnt shut up about it for the past week. Probably because you feel threatened. Here is a reminder for anybody that might not know you.
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buy4crypto
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July 17, 2014, 02:59:06 AM |
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Is anyone tech savy enough to help me out a bit if I need some help changing a bitcoin faucet to a vericoin faucet tomorrow?
Not sure exactly how this works, but I want to put up a faucet and load it this weekend if its not going to be a big issue. I know have seen tools to make them for bitcoin. Perhaps its just a small conversion over to VRC, if anyone can help me out, I am going to sleep tonight and then get started on the project in the morning. A lot of people are hearing about VRC for the first time and I want to help them want to stay around!
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barabbas
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July 17, 2014, 03:00:53 AM |
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I guess the 3-4 fudders who kept vrc at the top of the forums posting 12 hours straight 5 times a page finally all bought after getting their victims to sell to them.
Was actually very impressive how badly they wanted to buy. No sane person posts the way smoothie and crew did without needing/wanting to buy a substantial amount.
Why do people assume (and make accusations with no proof) that I wanted to buy a substantial amount of VRC? FULL DISCLOSURE: I own 0 VRC and will never buy a single one ever. REASONING: I would not ever want to be a part of the catastrophic effects of a rollback in the future should a massive hack/scam/theft happen related to VRC. My posting has much to do with pointing out BS and calling things as I see it. If you knew my reputation on this forum you would know what is how I operated from day 1. Frankly my dear, nobody gives a fuck here... Or anywhere.
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barabbas
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July 17, 2014, 03:07:08 AM |
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Because I own 0 VRC I am technically a neutral party giving my outside perspective. Take it for what it is worth, or you can cry about it. The choice is your. Mahalo, Smoothie Oh no risk of people here and everywhere not taking "... it for what it is worth": Crap.
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July 17, 2014, 03:09:02 AM |
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As harsh as it sounds...mintpal should go out of business and users who got coins lost due to the hack should suffer the loss or at least attempt to get what they can recover from mint pal without the Ben Bernanke move the VRC developers made.
This is not what has happened but it has set a precedent for the future. The devs themselves said this will not happen again, and if should the coin fail/die because of this same type of situation happen, then so be it (see their developers hangout video, they address your concerns/thoughts of this being a trend they are starting). The situation they were in had not happened to any coin previously, now that it has happened, all Proof of Stake coins as well as their relationships with exchanges *should* change, if not, we could definitely see any PoS coin, including Vericoin, fail. I noticed in the 'news' today Ghash has put a cap/limit on what hashing power they will have (see http://www.coindesk.com/ghash-commits-40-hashrate-cap-bitcoin-mining-summit/ ), exchanges should do the same for Proof of Stake coins, only allow so much supply of any given coin to their exchange.
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BitcoinPorn
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July 17, 2014, 03:11:06 AM |
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Is anyone tech savy enough to help me out a bit if I need some help changing a bitcoin faucet to a vericoin faucet tomorrow?
Not sure exactly how this works, but I want to put up a faucet and load it this weekend if its not going to be a big issue. I know have seen tools to make them for bitcoin. Perhaps its just a small conversion over to VRC, if anyone can help me out, I am going to sleep tonight and then get started on the project in the morning. A lot of people are hearing about VRC for the first time and I want to help them want to stay around!
Perhaps the person running ' http://vrcfaucet.visitbit.com/ ' will help you out, I'm sure they don't care to be the only faucet for Vericoin (or maybe they do, I know web sites can get competitive sometimes, however I figure both of you have a common positive goal, but who knows)
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July 17, 2014, 03:11:51 AM |
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Honestly I cannot understand why people keep answering scum like Bobsurplus, or trying to reason with people like smoothie and their army of alts.
After ignoring them for more than a week this thread has become so much better, just the occasional random harmless FUDer not making any sense in an attempt of post in english or even a couple of them that actually were funny and gave us some lulz.
Truth, sad truth is, if people like them were not wasting their time and efforts in here and helping promote and grow BC instead, perhaps that coin wouldn't die the slow death as badly as it is :S
BTW Already sold my last BCs, no hope anymore.
Good luck.
Eth.
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buy4crypto
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July 17, 2014, 03:12:07 AM |
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As harsh as it sounds...mintpal should go out of business and users who got coins lost due to the hack should suffer the loss or at least attempt to get what they can recover from mint pal without the Ben Bernanke move the VRC developers made.
This is not what has happened but it has set a precedent for the future. The devs themselves said this will not happen again, and if should the coin fail/die because of this same type of situation happen, then so be it (see their developers hangout video, they address your concerns/thoughts of this being a trend they are starting). The situation they were in had not happened to any coin previously, now that it has happened, all Proof of Stake coins as well as their relationships with exchanges *should* change, if not, we could definitely see any PoS coin, including Vericoin, fail. I noticed in the 'news' today Ghash has put a cap/limit on what hashing power they will have (see http://www.coindesk.com/ghash-commits-40-hashrate-cap-bitcoin-mining-summit/ ), exchanges should do the same for Proof of Stake coins, only allow so much supply of any given coin to their exchange. I like this solution. Its a hint to what the dev's where saying last night to in the hangout. Good to see ghash.io taking proper steps to secure bitcoin. They fully understand they could be a target and compromised at some point. This was a wakeup call to all of crypto. Everyone is lucky it was done with ethics on the vericoin end, and not some shady anon dev who tried to set the precedent. They set the bar high for sure.
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July 17, 2014, 03:13:52 AM |
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Price, by the way, is 20% above recent lows just under 30k.
The markets have spoken.
Bullshitters will shut up.
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buy4crypto
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July 17, 2014, 03:15:07 AM |
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Is anyone tech savy enough to help me out a bit if I need some help changing a bitcoin faucet to a vericoin faucet tomorrow?
Not sure exactly how this works, but I want to put up a faucet and load it this weekend if its not going to be a big issue. I know have seen tools to make them for bitcoin. Perhaps its just a small conversion over to VRC, if anyone can help me out, I am going to sleep tonight and then get started on the project in the morning. A lot of people are hearing about VRC for the first time and I want to help them want to stay around!
Perhaps the person running ' http://vrcfaucet.visitbit.com/ ' will help you out, I'm sure they don't care to be the only faucet for Vericoin (or maybe they do, I know web sites can get competitive sometimes, however I figure both of you have a common positive goal, but who knows) That guy hates me for some reason. Maybe he wants to "off" his competition. I dunno. Its leckey of the forum who runs it. But he wouldn't lift a finger to help me, even if it meant helping others. I link to his site right now to, I got a good amount of SEO growth which goes directly to him. My goal definately isn't to make money with this. I am going to try to give back with the faucet as my way of helping the lil' person. I just got to get one set up
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July 17, 2014, 03:24:33 AM |
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Honestly I cannot understand why people keep answering scum like Bobsurplus, or trying to reason with people like smoothie and their army of alts.
After ignoring them for more than a week this thread has become so much better
It's been less than a week for me and it makes a world of difference browsing the thread. Though smoothie I have to vouch just has his opinions on how he sees things, while overall he obviously wants Vericoin to fail and basically has said as much, he doesn't do it with shit posts with no content or large meme images. It's sometimes good to hear other opinions on things imo. My current ignore list: SkyValeey Bobsurplus keshuker mrkavasaki ItsNotMe CodeHunter
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July 17, 2014, 03:29:21 AM |
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Gotta stop fighting with the FUDers and troll on here. They had there time the last few days. The devs spoke answered questions and were transparent as always! Its time to Focus Forward on the Android wallet (hopefully iOS as well), VeriFIAT, and what ever tricks up the sleeves!! Keep on fighting about the same thing is only slowing down the train! So I'll say it again time to Focus Forward!! Time to go to the next level!
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