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[Monkeys]

You obviously can't take his sarcasm.  He's not REALLY serious about that college remark.  #sarcasm

I'm Australian mate. We eat sarcasm for breakfast!

If he was really being sarcastic with that remark then it was certainly not clear and definitely not in good taste.

As much as I enjoy sarcasm amongst friends, it is also not a quality I would look for in a professional sense.

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[MAD945]

But, you know, Patric is more on the fatty side, regardless of my appreciation, Doug repeats "at the end of the day" way too many times in public and dev3 looks the picture perfect of the nerd that never gets laid. You think that is personal attacks or just a personal appreciation of the obvious? Also, from where I am standing, they are three nice kids playing a game of adults, full of youthful arrogance, so far incapable of admitting they have made mistakes -and they have- and making that some people -like you- will believe and put their money behind those beliefs- that they are "professionals" when, in fact, they have a hobby called VRC and they are professionals at nothing (they are students), except for dev3 of course that, until new layoffs come at least, still makes a living off or working at Microsoft, so, even more than for the other two, VRC is just a side hobby, nothing else. And that is a reality way beyond whatever you make your mind believe, through and through.

I'm just glad you aren't attracted to me as you are with Socal.

The level of idiocy that purported humans are capable of, in some cases, never ceases to amaze me. And when you put it together with blind greed so prevalent here, we are talking stratospheric idiocy.

And, of course, no answer to the very relevant question. What the hell does it matter when all you care about is the price rebounding... or pretending you are here for the long run no matter what.

And if you are a guy from Valencia somehow astonishingly convinced he is somewhat intelligent, the shit reaches proportions intergalactic, really.

Hey, to each his own. If you don't care that 15 million coins are really staking while credit is given to 28 million instead, the only thing I can do is demand answers, THE REAL KIND. Either way, no one can achieve that total idiots will somehow develop a brain.

There are not only 15 M coins staking, likely closer to 20-22 M. And I did answer your question. Several times. It's not my fault you didn't go to a top 24 university and can't understand simple explanations.

Arrogance is not a quality I would like to invest in.

Perfect demonstration of what Barrabas has said already. These devs may be smart, but they are immature and full of themselves and really in way over their heads with this project .

If even the devs (let alone the cheerleaders) can't refrain from defaulting to insults on peoples intelligence when confronted, then this coin is surely doomed.

wow just wow. Neither did I but that doesn't mean anyone who hasn't gone to a "top 24 university" can't understand simple explanations. Sounds like Mr. Pnosker is an arrogant douche. Not to mention going to a university doesn't automatically equate to being intelligent. The current structure of education has its downfalls and flaws.

Good example of stereotyping by the devs of VRC.

So far my call has been spot on...price in the past 3 weeks has shown "support" for VRC after the federal reserve ROLL-BACK.

@Bagholders: How does it feel to have your investment fall in value by ~66% in 3 weeks?

So let me get this straight...Barabbass can take multiple shots at the devs but Patrick shoots back once and he's a douche. Give me a fucking break...if Barabbass can't get a simple explanation stated from multiple points of view then he deserves to get burned. His whole a approach was wrong, what ever happened to asking for a simple explanation instead of jumping to these crazy, half-baked, tinfoil hat assumptions?

Monkeys...that cartoon made me laugh out loud! Good one...

My point was not that Barrabas was in any way right. My point was that for the lead developer to respond with such arrogance about having attended a "top 24 university" really shows a lack of maturity, and inability to "take the high rd".

Patrick could have responded in the exact same way and just left the part out about the university, and he would have sounded like a reasonable and mature person, instead he came off like an arrogant twat.

He's human dude...and was more then likely throwing it back at Barabbass because of his previous statement about where Pat was going to school.

Why the fuck are we even talking about this! Seriously...that's talk crypto and how we can help build a better Vericoin!

[MAD945]

You obviously can't take his sarcasm.  He's not REALLY serious about that college remark.  #sarcasm

I'm Australian mate. We eat sarcasm for breakfast!

If he was really being sarcastic with that remark then it was certainly not clear and definitely not in good taste.

As much as I enjoy sarcasm amongst friends, it is also not a quality I would look for in a professional sense.

[FryguyUK]

where's that photo of veri f***ing BC up the ars super imposed...   anyone notice everything went to shit after that? makes you wander if it was veri's Franz Ferdinand

[pnosker]

My point was not that Barrabas was in any way right. My point was that for the lead developer to respond with such arrogance about having attended a "top 24 university" really shows a lack of maturity, and inability to "take the high rd".

Patrick could have responded in the exact same way and just left the part out about the university, and he would have sounded like a reasonable and mature person, instead he came off like an arrogant twat.

Just so you know, it was a reference to this quote by Barabbas a long time ago:

Let's take a look as some details: the trio are alumni and presumably met at Rutgers. Rutgers University is not precisely and icon of the US -or the world-  high education, precisely. As a matter of fact it barely ranks as the 69-70th in the US among American universities. Ah but what about their tech specs? Not much better. As a matter of fact it doesn't even appear among the 50 top institution of tech education in the world and, likewise, not among the 22 top such institutions in the United States. So "greatest" honors from Rutgers, per se, doesn't buy you a ticket to the big leagues. Besides that, only David actually completed a Master's Degree in Computer Sciences, while Patrick and Douglas are pursuing, as full time students, other endeavors going much more toward other sciences, most particularly Molecular Biology and Biomedical Engineering... not exactly anything even remotely linked to alt currencies development.

There is no arrogance here, simply some comic relief.

[Monkeys]

You obviously can't take his sarcasm.  He's not REALLY serious about that college remark.  #sarcasm

I'm Australian mate. We eat sarcasm for breakfast!

If he was really being sarcastic with that remark then it was certainly not clear and definitely not in good taste.

As much as I enjoy sarcasm amongst friends, it is also not a quality I would look for in a professional sense.

I would, but it is just so much fun up here!

[Monkeys]

My point was not that Barrabas was in any way right. My point was that for the lead developer to respond with such arrogance about having attended a "top 24 university" really shows a lack of maturity, and inability to "take the high rd".

Patrick could have responded in the exact same way and just left the part out about the university, and he would have sounded like a reasonable and mature person, instead he came off like an arrogant twat.

Just so you know, it was a reference to this quote by Barabbas a long time ago:

Let's take a look as some details: the trio are alumni and presumably met at Rutgers. Rutgers University is not precisely and icon of the US -or the world-  high education, precisely. As a matter of fact it barely ranks as the 69-70th in the US among American universities. Ah but what about their tech specs? Not much better. As a matter of fact it doesn't even appear among the 50 top institution of tech education in the world and, likewise, not among the 22 top such institutions in the United States. So "greatest" honors from Rutgers, per se, doesn't buy you a ticket to the big leagues. Besides that, only David actually completed a Master's Degree in Computer Sciences, while Patrick and Douglas are pursuing, as full time students, other endeavors going much more toward other sciences, most particularly Molecular Biology and Biomedical Engineering... not exactly anything even remotely linked to alt currencies development.

There is no arrogance here, simply some comic relief.

Well I'm glad to hear that Pat.

I'm sure you can see how it could be interpreted otherwise though.

I honestly think it doesn't matter which university, if any, you have been to. If you have the skills and drive required to pull off this project then more power to you!

[smoothie]

Smoothie, Price is only an issue in the absence of Value.  Go provide a little bit out there in the World.   

Agreed. Price is an indicator of value.

Nice try at being passively aggressive. LOL doesn't work on me. 

[smoothie]

But, you know, Patric is more on the fatty side, regardless of my appreciation, Doug repeats "at the end of the day" way too many times in public and dev3 looks the picture perfect of the nerd that never gets laid. You think that is personal attacks or just a personal appreciation of the obvious? Also, from where I am standing, they are three nice kids playing a game of adults, full of youthful arrogance, so far incapable of admitting they have made mistakes -and they have- and making that some people -like you- will believe and put their money behind those beliefs- that they are "professionals" when, in fact, they have a hobby called VRC and they are professionals at nothing (they are students), except for dev3 of course that, until new layoffs come at least, still makes a living off or working at Microsoft, so, even more than for the other two, VRC is just a side hobby, nothing else. And that is a reality way beyond whatever you make your mind believe, through and through.

I'm just glad you aren't attracted to me as you are with Socal.

The level of idiocy that purported humans are capable of, in some cases, never ceases to amaze me. And when you put it together with blind greed so prevalent here, we are talking stratospheric idiocy.

And, of course, no answer to the very relevant question. What the hell does it matter when all you care about is the price rebounding... or pretending you are here for the long run no matter what.

And if you are a guy from Valencia somehow astonishingly convinced he is somewhat intelligent, the shit reaches proportions intergalactic, really.

Hey, to each his own. If you don't care that 15 million coins are really staking while credit is given to 28 million instead, the only thing I can do is demand answers, THE REAL KIND. Either way, no one can achieve that total idiots will somehow develop a brain.

There are not only 15 M coins staking, likely closer to 20-22 M. And I did answer your question. Several times. It's not my fault you didn't go to a top 24 university and can't understand simple explanations.

Arrogance is not a quality I would like to invest in.

Perfect demonstration of what Barrabas has said already. These devs may be smart, but they are immature and full of themselves and really in way over their heads with this project .

If even the devs (let alone the cheerleaders) can't refrain from defaulting to insults on peoples intelligence when confronted, then this coin is surely doomed.

wow just wow. Neither did I but that doesn't mean anyone who hasn't gone to a "top 24 university" can't understand simple explanations. Sounds like Mr. Pnosker is an arrogant douche. Not to mention going to a university doesn't automatically equate to being intelligent. The current structure of education has its downfalls and flaws.

Good example of stereotyping by the devs of VRC.

So far my call has been spot on...price in the past 3 weeks has shown "support" for VRC after the federal reserve ROLL-BACK.

@Bagholders: How does it feel to have your investment fall in value by ~66% in 3 weeks?

So let me get this straight...Barabbass can take multiple shots at the devs but Patrick shoots back once and he's a douche. Give me a fucking break...if Barabbass can't get a simple explanation stated from multiple points of view then he deserves to get burned. His whole a approach was wrong, what ever happened to asking for a simple explanation instead of jumping to these crazy, half-baked, tinfoil hat assumptions?

Monkeys...that cartoon made me laugh out loud! Good one...

Yes. A developer should be neutral and given their actions (with the roll back and his comment) they are not. Also his snide comment about going to a university means anything at all is hogwash and bullshit.

Oh remind me where the price is now and where it was a few weeks ago which was very obvious where it was headed back then despite all of the "hold and accumulate more" strategy?

Oh right, down 66%. 

[smoothie]

You obviously can't take his sarcasm.  He's not REALLY serious about that college remark.  #sarcasm

lol oh right we are supposed to read his "sarcasm" and give him a get-out-of-jail-free card right?

No it doesn't work that way.

[smoothie]

But, you know, Patric is more on the fatty side, regardless of my appreciation, Doug repeats "at the end of the day" way too many times in public and dev3 looks the picture perfect of the nerd that never gets laid. You think that is personal attacks or just a personal appreciation of the obvious? Also, from where I am standing, they are three nice kids playing a game of adults, full of youthful arrogance, so far incapable of admitting they have made mistakes -and they have- and making that some people -like you- will believe and put their money behind those beliefs- that they are "professionals" when, in fact, they have a hobby called VRC and they are professionals at nothing (they are students), except for dev3 of course that, until new layoffs come at least, still makes a living off or working at Microsoft, so, even more than for the other two, VRC is just a side hobby, nothing else. And that is a reality way beyond whatever you make your mind believe, through and through.

I'm just glad you aren't attracted to me as you are with Socal.

The level of idiocy that purported humans are capable of, in some cases, never ceases to amaze me. And when you put it together with blind greed so prevalent here, we are talking stratospheric idiocy.

And, of course, no answer to the very relevant question. What the hell does it matter when all you care about is the price rebounding... or pretending you are here for the long run no matter what.

And if you are a guy from Valencia somehow astonishingly convinced he is somewhat intelligent, the shit reaches proportions intergalactic, really.

Hey, to each his own. If you don't care that 15 million coins are really staking while credit is given to 28 million instead, the only thing I can do is demand answers, THE REAL KIND. Either way, no one can achieve that total idiots will somehow develop a brain.

There are not only 15 M coins staking, likely closer to 20-22 M. And I did answer your question. Several times. It's not my fault you didn't go to a top 24 university and can't understand simple explanations.

Arrogance is not a quality I would like to invest in.

Perfect demonstration of what Barrabas has said already. These devs may be smart, but they are immature and full of themselves and really in way over their heads with this project .

If even the devs (let alone the cheerleaders) can't refrain from defaulting to insults on peoples intelligence when confronted, then this coin is surely doomed.

wow just wow. Neither did I but that doesn't mean anyone who hasn't gone to a "top 24 university" can't understand simple explanations. Sounds like Mr. Pnosker is an arrogant douche. Not to mention going to a university doesn't automatically equate to being intelligent. The current structure of education has its downfalls and flaws.

Good example of stereotyping by the devs of VRC.

So far my call has been spot on...price in the past 3 weeks has shown "support" for VRC after the federal reserve ROLL-BACK.

@Bagholders: How does it feel to have your investment fall in value by ~66% in 3 weeks?

So let me get this straight...Barabbass can take multiple shots at the devs but Patrick shoots back once and he's a douche. Give me a fucking break...if Barabbass can't get a simple explanation stated from multiple points of view then he deserves to get burned. His whole a approach was wrong, what ever happened to asking for a simple explanation instead of jumping to these crazy, half-baked, tinfoil hat assumptions?

Monkeys...that cartoon made me laugh out loud! Good one...

My point was not that Barrabas was in any way right. My point was that for the lead developer to respond with such arrogance about having attended a "top 24 university" really shows a lack of maturity, and inability to "take the high rd".

Patrick could have responded in the exact same way and just left the part out about the university, and he would have sounded like a reasonable and mature person, instead he came off like an arrogant twat.

He's human dude...and was more then likely throwing it back at Barabbass because of his previous statement about where Pat was going to school.

Why the fuck are we even talking about this! Seriously...that's talk crypto and how we can help build a better Vericoin!

Perhaps because this coin should be dead but the devs decided to play "Federal Reserve". Now the price has tanked 66%. No surprise there. 

[smoothie]

My point was not that Barrabas was in any way right. My point was that for the lead developer to respond with such arrogance about having attended a "top 24 university" really shows a lack of maturity, and inability to "take the high rd".

Patrick could have responded in the exact same way and just left the part out about the university, and he would have sounded like a reasonable and mature person, instead he came off like an arrogant twat.

Just so you know, it was a reference to this quote by Barabbas a long time ago:

Let's take a look as some details: the trio are alumni and presumably met at Rutgers. Rutgers University is not precisely and icon of the US -or the world-  high education, precisely. As a matter of fact it barely ranks as the 69-70th in the US among American universities. Ah but what about their tech specs? Not much better. As a matter of fact it doesn't even appear among the 50 top institution of tech education in the world and, likewise, not among the 22 top such institutions in the United States. So "greatest" honors from Rutgers, per se, doesn't buy you a ticket to the big leagues. Besides that, only David actually completed a Master's Degree in Computer Sciences, while Patrick and Douglas are pursuing, as full time students, other endeavors going much more toward other sciences, most particularly Molecular Biology and Biomedical Engineering... not exactly anything even remotely linked to alt currencies development.

There is no arrogance here, simply some comic relief.

lol nice try at stretching the explanation of an obviously stereotype statement you made.

[H4Y35]

My point was not that Barrabas was in any way right. My point was that for the lead developer to respond with such arrogance about having attended a "top 24 university" really shows a lack of maturity, and inability to "take the high rd".

Patrick could have responded in the exact same way and just left the part out about the university, and he would have sounded like a reasonable and mature person, instead he came off like an arrogant twat.

Just so you know, it was a reference to this quote by Barabbas a long time ago:

Let's take a look as some details: the trio are alumni and presumably met at Rutgers. Rutgers University is not precisely and icon of the US -or the world-  high education, precisely. As a matter of fact it barely ranks as the 69-70th in the US among American universities. Ah but what about their tech specs? Not much better. As a matter of fact it doesn't even appear among the 50 top institution of tech education in the world and, likewise, not among the 22 top such institutions in the United States. So "greatest" honors from Rutgers, per se, doesn't buy you a ticket to the big leagues. Besides that, only David actually completed a Master's Degree in Computer Sciences, while Patrick and Douglas are pursuing, as full time students, other endeavors going much more toward other sciences, most particularly Molecular Biology and Biomedical Engineering... not exactly anything even remotely linked to alt currencies development.

There is no arrogance here, simply some comic relief.

lol nice try at stretching the explanation of an obviously stereotype statement you made.

You shut your mouth you mother fudder!

[barabbas]

But, you know, Patric is more on the fatty side, regardless of my appreciation, Doug repeats "at the end of the day" way too many times in public and dev3 looks the picture perfect of the nerd that never gets laid. You think that is personal attacks or just a personal appreciation of the obvious? Also, from where I am standing, they are three nice kids playing a game of adults, full of youthful arrogance, so far incapable of admitting they have made mistakes -and they have- and making that some people -like you- will believe and put their money behind those beliefs- that they are "professionals" when, in fact, they have a hobby called VRC and they are professionals at nothing (they are students), except for dev3 of course that, until new layoffs come at least, still makes a living off or working at Microsoft, so, even more than for the other two, VRC is just a side hobby, nothing else. And that is a reality way beyond whatever you make your mind believe, through and through.

I'm just glad you aren't attracted to me as you are with Socal.

The level of idiocy that purported humans are capable of, in some cases, never ceases to amaze me. And when you put it together with blind greed so prevalent here, we are talking stratospheric idiocy.

And, of course, no answer to the very relevant question. What the hell does it matter when all you care about is the price rebounding... or pretending you are here for the long run no matter what.

And if you are a guy from Valencia somehow astonishingly convinced he is somewhat intelligent, the shit reaches proportions intergalactic, really.

Hey, to each his own. If you don't care that 15 million coins are really staking while credit is given to 28 million instead, the only thing I can do is demand answers, THE REAL KIND. Either way, no one can achieve that total idiots will somehow develop a brain.

There are not only 15 M coins staking, likely closer to 20-22 M. And I did answer your question. Several times. It's not my fault you didn't go to a top 24 university and can't understand simple explanations.

It would appear that it is you who is attracted to socal, since you are sooo close that you keep him on the loop -albeit on a necessary short leash- being as he is toxic for the coin. Hey, I don't have anything against anyone's attractions, to each his own.

What is it then, can you or can you not know how many coins, real ones, are staking at any given time? Why 15 million is categorically not possible but 20-22 is "likely closer"? And under what measurement, even if those figures of 20-22 million prove to in fact be "more likely" is that "not too much bigger"? as Doug put it.

The answers, dear Patrick, much as your private "explanation" of the reasons behind the 200k transfer, are far from shedding real light on the issue at hand. No, I did not attend a top 24 university but I am extraordinarily good at looking things up on google. And I "get" things quite above whatever average, including those who are studying -with a lot to go- on top 23 universities, like you.

You can look in the blockchain and see which addresses are generating new coins. That is the only way you can see how many coins are staking currently. Of the top 5 wallets, #1 -3.3 M are in Mintpal (http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?92241.htm), #2 - 3.0 M are in an unknown account with staking enabled (http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?94081.htm), #3 - 1.0 M is in an unknown wallet without staking enabled (http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?92873.htm), #4 - 811k is in an unknown account with staking enabled (http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?22282.htm), #5 - 600k is in an unknown account without staking enabled (http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?93966.htm).

That leaves 3.3M + 1.0M + 0.6M = 4.9M without staking enabled. These accounts are likely cold storage accounts for exchanges (#1 is confirmed to be MP as it is where the reversed-pre-hack-coins went). Most of the rest of the coins appear to be staking. This is why I believe around 20M coins are staking right now. Go look at various wallets and if you see frequent transactions for ~1 VRC or less, that address is staking.

I'm not sure what the "issue at hand" is, but frankly, I don't really care what you consider to be the issue or not. I'm getting back to work to help turn VeriCoin into the best coin there is and not wasting time battling you on here because you're not willing and/or able to understand what I've said numerous times by now.

I am quite willing and quite able. And I thank you for taking the time to give, for the first time, a decent explanation about how many coins are, potentially, REALLY staking. And the figure, as we all agree on, is quite impressive indeed. BUT that doesn't dissolve magically the FACTS of the "issue at hand": The difference between approximately 20 million coins staking and 28+ million in the weighted/coinage system is STAGGERING, as I have already pointed out many, many times and not, in any way shape or form anything that can be dismissed, like Doug tried to, as some figure m"not too much bigger... 40% is, again, STAGGERINGLY bigger. Besides confusing and not meaning anything really for the meaningful number is, of course, the 20 million REAL coins that are not being offered for trade and are, indeed supporting both the network and the coin.

I hope you get now what the issue at hand was... before you, with your arrogance, created others completely unnecessarily... I guess your ego requires that just like it does require not accepting that you made a HUGE mistake transferring your 200k coins and setting well walls at the time of the roll back. It would be promising if you would start to respect everyone, more or less, that posts here and not immediately assume that your level, on anything really, is superior to anyone. First because it isn't even remotely close to true and second because, precisely the indication that it would be occasionally true would be demonstrated by the fact that you don't assume it to be so. Go on a digest that for a while, it may take a second or two to get the full meaning of it.

Finally, I'm sure everyone would appreciate your efforts and those of the other devs to try to make VRC the best coin there is. If this were enthusiasm for the project, it would be great; as it happens, we all know it is, again, a showing of unwarranted youthful arrogance for there's absolutely no indication whatsoever that VRC is going on that direction any time fast. I, on the other hand, am more of a results driven individual who doesn't care much for the efforts... if you literally kill yourself trying to be the greatest basketball player in history, your effort may be huge indeed... as huge as the result disappointing. I'm sure you catch my metaphor (after all that 23rd university might have provided some understanding of such, although perhaps it is still premature to assume so... as you can see, irony and sarcasms are easily accessible to anyone), so just doing the best you can would be more than enough for me.

For now. And not for too much longer. As many others have noted here, this project is dramatically short in results and extremely long in cheerleaders. Not a good, or even sustainable, combination.

[ereborltc]

actually sad and pathetic that ppl take their time to write paragraphs of hate lol... if u don't like vericoin, why you here aaallllll the time writing sooooo much lol its actually scary and disturbing the type of lives you must have ...wow , the people that believe in vericoin at this point aren't even paying attention to your verbal diarrhea. so many coins go down more than 60% in weeks and rebound stronger , do you not know this or are u that naive ? 

Anyway.... enjoy your time typing a 20 min reply lol
 

[barabbas]

Lets make it clear that I don't agree or supports, as I have posted many times, with the revisiting of the attacks for the "rollback". I supported and still do the "rollback", among other things because there wasn't anything else that could be done honestly. And because it was playing clean and fair.

I have also stated many times how ridiculous it is to assume that the current downfall in price has anything to do with the rollback. It is simply not true. And the downfall doesn't affect VRC only, it does affect, among many others, CLOAK and BC to identical -or bigger- extent. That made clear, I find reproachable to keep beating that dead horse to serve quite bastard agendas and personally attack a dev that perhaps should use a bit more of restrain but that shouldn't be attacked at any opportunity for having contributed to make a decision, long time ago, that the entire VRC community overwhelmingly supported and still does support. Including me.

The university remark was indeed as inappropriate as it was sarcastic. Nothing more stereotyped or arrogant that many previous and current remarks. Arrogance is, indeed, a shortcoming here. A big one. But that remark, specifically, doesn't add -or takes way- to it.

So, usual suspects such as Smoothie and his croonies... the door is -remains- closed.

[ereborltc]

But, you know, Patric is more on the fatty side, regardless of my appreciation, Doug repeats "at the end of the day" way too many times in public and dev3 looks the picture perfect of the nerd that never gets laid. You think that is personal attacks or just a personal appreciation of the obvious? Also, from where I am standing, they are three nice kids playing a game of adults, full of youthful arrogance, so far incapable of admitting they have made mistakes -and they have- and making that some people -like you- will believe and put their money behind those beliefs- that they are "professionals" when, in fact, they have a hobby called VRC and they are professionals at nothing (they are students), except for dev3 of course that, until new layoffs come at least, still makes a living off or working at Microsoft, so, even more than for the other two, VRC is just a side hobby, nothing else. And that is a reality way beyond whatever you make your mind believe, through and through.

I'm just glad you aren't attracted to me as you are with Socal.

The level of idiocy that purported humans are capable of, in some cases, never ceases to amaze me. And when you put it together with blind greed so prevalent here, we are talking stratospheric idiocy.

And, of course, no answer to the very relevant question. What the hell does it matter when all you care about is the price rebounding... or pretending you are here for the long run no matter what.

And if you are a guy from Valencia somehow astonishingly convinced he is somewhat intelligent, the shit reaches proportions intergalactic, really.

Hey, to each his own. If you don't care that 15 million coins are really staking while credit is given to 28 million instead, the only thing I can do is demand answers, THE REAL KIND. Either way, no one can achieve that total idiots will somehow develop a brain.

There are not only 15 M coins staking, likely closer to 20-22 M. And I did answer your question. Several times. It's not my fault you didn't go to a top 24 university and can't understand simple explanations.

It would appear that it is you who is attracted to socal, since you are sooo close that you keep him on the loop -albeit on a necessary short leash- being as he is toxic for the coin. Hey, I don't have anything against anyone's attractions, to each his own.

What is it then, can you or can you not know how many coins, real ones, are staking at any given time? Why 15 million is categorically not possible but 20-22 is "likely closer"? And under what measurement, even if those figures of 20-22 million prove to in fact be "more likely" is that "not too much bigger"? as Doug put it.

The answers, dear Patrick, much as your private "explanation" of the reasons behind the 200k transfer, are far from shedding real light on the issue at hand. No, I did not attend a top 24 university but I am extraordinarily good at looking things up on google. And I "get" things quite above whatever average, including those who are studying -with a lot to go- on top 23 universities, like you.

You can look in the blockchain and see which addresses are generating new coins. That is the only way you can see how many coins are staking currently. Of the top 5 wallets, #1 -3.3 M are in Mintpal (http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?92241.htm), #2 - 3.0 M are in an unknown account with staking enabled (http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?94081.htm), #3 - 1.0 M is in an unknown wallet without staking enabled (http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?92873.htm), #4 - 811k is in an unknown account with staking enabled (http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?22282.htm), #5 - 600k is in an unknown account without staking enabled (http://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?93966.htm).

That leaves 3.3M + 1.0M + 0.6M = 4.9M without staking enabled. These accounts are likely cold storage accounts for exchanges (#1 is confirmed to be MP as it is where the reversed-pre-hack-coins went). Most of the rest of the coins appear to be staking. This is why I believe around 20M coins are staking right now. Go look at various wallets and if you see frequent transactions for ~1 VRC or less, that address is staking.

I'm not sure what the "issue at hand" is, but frankly, I don't really care what you consider to be the issue or not. I'm getting back to work to help turn VeriCoin into the best coin there is and not wasting time battling you on here because you're not willing and/or able to understand what I've said numerous times by now.

NUFF SAID!!! A+++

[socal]

Bring on the trolls

Oh and thanks for the love Monkeys you really are becoming a good little Barabbas disciple, same amount of fixation and everything LMAO

[Nathonas]

actually sad and pathetic that ppl take their time to write paragraphs of hate lol... if u don't like vericoin, why you here aaallllll the time writing sooooo much lol its actually scary and disturbing the type of lives you must have ...wow , the people that believe in vericoin at this point aren't even paying attention to your verbal diarrhea. so many coins go down more than 60% in weeks and rebound stronger , do you not know this or are u that naive ?  

Anyway.... enjoy your time typing a 20 min reply lol
 

Haha I feel the same way. These toolbags like Barabbas write essays in this thread. If you really don't like the coin, then why are you here? Writing so much about it? It's like they want to appear smart and without an agenda. Add them to ignore (as well as the guys who do nothing but post image memes) and the thread looks so much better.

[H4Y35]

actually sad and pathetic that ppl take their time to write paragraphs of hate lol... if u don't like vericoin, why you here aaallllll the time writing sooooo much lol its actually scary and disturbing the type of lives you must have ...wow , the people that believe in vericoin at this point aren't even paying attention to your verbal diarrhea. so many coins go down more than 60% in weeks and rebound stronger , do you not know this or are u that naive ? 

Anyway.... enjoy your time typing a 20 min reply lol
 

I agree, I guess some peoples time isn't considered valuable.