[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[altcoinUK]

and the power of investors that come with jl777

That power is lot less than what was promised and expected. After the great speeches and the promised endless access to infinitely rich whales the price couldn't even break 20k, and VRC started from a very low volume and very low price of 10k.
I would never do the bitching and complaining if the price rise, but as the price is fluctuating around 15k and going nowhere, better to ask where is the promised buy support of whales and not to celebrate what is not there.

Be patient, it was just a week ago when things started to turn up.  There are still a lot of people that have been waiting for some increase to sell who never were invested in the vision of VRC.  James calls them the "weakhands" like BlackHandAshdrake and Wizfarm who have no interest in contributing to the future of VRC.  Once they get out, I think we'll see a steady increase.  It's not going to happen all in one day... which is the best way.  It'll be slow growth.  James has always spoken long term.  It's nice to have you on board again.  Again, please be patient and stay positive. :-)

Side Note:  If you think our BitcoinTalk forum has some issues, check out CloackCoin forum right now.  There's barely anybody left positive enough to even turn the lights off. Ouch...

That's a very valid point. It was interesting to see that during the last rise the staking was down to 12 million, which means lots of bag holders moved their coins to the exchanges to sell. The large number of sellers makes a pump and consequently higher price quite impossible at this moment in time.

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[sluppy]

What do you thing about developing a payment system for Vericoin (and SuperNet) with NFC-Cards and mobiles?

It should be quite simple on the hardware side:  A raspberry pi with connected USB-NFC Reader and a simple touchscreen connectet to the SPI-Bus and some button of course.    Hardware cost approx. 60€.

Then NFC-payments could be inegrated into the Andorid and iOS wallet and some Kind of VeriCardNFC.

Sounds rather genius to me!

I like your plan but your Wrong about the PI  its Old Slow and Expensive , you can get a much better Phone for less money , that will have a Camera to record and Screen to Display stuff like QR codes.
This could also be used by stores to build the inventory of their websites, Supernet may want to consider providing that service. so it could be presented as an allround product to drag the company into the 21st century.
Also I think it will be a Huge task to build a trusted system and why reinvent the wheel while u have good year tires in the garage.

That having been said this is really one of the roads we should be heading down.
Id love to help out on this project as long as u dont expect me to Code anything cuz then ull be dissapointed.

[buy4crypto]

Can I ask our developers, Dave, Doug, Patrick. in the name of transparency to divulge any and all donations that they may have received since the start of this project. This includes, but is not limited to vericoin addresses, fiat, future personal favors, ect?

I don't want to assume things. But we need to know if you have received gifts of any kind from people who are acting on behalf of VeriCoin in the past, present, and future.

SuperNet needs a transparent team. Can you please post the amounts, and if you know who sent the amount, please clarify the name of the handle, so people can have a better clue of how you guys may, or may not be profiting from your work, and the inclusion into SuperNet.


James may find this refreshing, we need the most transparent team now to make this work. We shouldn't be hiding anything, especially if nobody is profiting from this pump close to the developers.

[buy4crypto]

I know Crindon gave a sizable amount. (He was part of the pump team with Patrick and others in June / July, He gave a very nice public donation to Patrick after he sold out.) I am sure many others didn't want there donations known (Wizrig and others), but maybe its time to mention any side accounts, or family members who have profited from this? In the name of transparency. Maybe friends of friends have large accounts they are trading? We know Doug, and Patrick both have relatives invested in the coin. We have heard that you 3 dev's don't trade, but that leaves the door open for family / friends, and these new teammates, who have made the price jump on so little as speculation.


We already know "anon" dev 4 is a coin trader with a personal stash of at least 200k VRC by his words recently. He makes big profits, and big plans around buying / selling / developing. I don't care how ethical you may think he is, anonymous is not ethical. Nor what he, and his team may be doing behind the scenes with the momentum created from his own doing.




Greed is a temptress. If you're not one of the few people "in the know" I would be extremely careful of hoping for a future promise to come to fruition. But by all means, ride the waves, take profits on the momentum. You will ensure that the anon dev cannot take your profits when he is ready to fade back into the shadows for whatever reason he decides when its time to pull the plug.

[pnosker]

Can I ask our developers, Dave, Doug, Patrick. in the name of transparency to divulge any and all donations that they may have received since the start of this project. This includes, but is not limited to vericoin addresses, fiat, future personal favors, ect?

I don't want to assume things. But we need to know if you have received gifts of any kind from people who are acting on behalf of VeriCoin in the past, present, and future.

SuperNet needs a transparent team. Can you please post the amounts, and if you know who sent the amount, please clarify the name of the handle, so people can have a better clue of how you guys may, or may not be profiting from your work, and the inclusion into SuperNet.


James may find this refreshing, we need the most transparent team now to make this work. We shouldn't be hiding anything, especially if nobody is profiting from this pump close to the developers.

All donations to us have gone directly towards either the Devfund (1500 VRC donated, total), or VeriFund, several BTC donated and around 100k VRC donated (outside of our own donations to it), and finally around 70k donated privately to a fund to help setup a decentralized exchange.

We have not personally profited from any donations.

You can take my word for it, or not. But we won't be disclosing our addresses, coin counts, etc. because we didn't IPO/Premine and we earned all of our own coins by either mining or buying with cold, hard cash and it's nobody's business how much coin we have or what we do with it. I will say that I still haven't sold any of my mined pot of coin until I donated 75k to the superNET fund, and used some VRC to buy shirts, physical coins, and the like.

[libertynow]

Can I ask our developers, Dave, Doug, Patrick. in the name of transparency to divulge any and all donations that they may have received since the start of this project. This includes, but is not limited to vericoin addresses, fiat, future personal favors, ect?

I don't want to assume things. But we need to know if you have received gifts of any kind from people who are acting on behalf of VeriCoin in the past, present, and future.

SuperNet needs a transparent team. Can you please post the amounts, and if you know who sent the amount, please clarify the name of the handle, so people can have a better clue of how you guys may, or may not be profiting from your work, and the inclusion into SuperNet.


James may find this refreshing, we need the most transparent team now to make this work. We shouldn't be hiding anything, especially if nobody is profiting from this pump close to the developers.

All donations to us have gone directly towards either the Devfund (1500 VRC donated, total), or VeriFund, several BTC donated and around 100k VRC donated (outside of our own donations to it), and finally around 70k donated privately to a fund to help setup a decentralized exchange.

We have not personally profited from any donations.

You can take my word for it, or not. But we won't be disclosing our addresses, coin counts, etc. because we didn't IPO/Premine and we earned all of our own coins by either mining or buying with cold, hard cash and it's nobody's business how much coin we have or what we do with it. I will say that I still haven't sold any of my mined pot of coin until I donated 75k to the superNET fund, and used some VRC to buy shirts, physical coins, and the like.

Patrick,

It's very big of you that you're still responding to buy4crypto, but I wish you wouldn't.  He has nothing to add to our conversations at all other than insulting you guys or the project.

[Kevondo]

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[altcoinUK]

What do you thing about developing a payment system for Vericoin (and SuperNet) with NFC-Cards and mobiles?

It should be quite simple on the hardware side:  A raspberry pi with connected USB-NFC Reader and a simple touchscreen connectet to the SPI-Bus and some button of course.    Hardware cost approx. 60€.

Then NFC-payments could be inegrated into the Andorid and iOS wallet and some Kind of VeriCardNFC.

Sounds rather genius to me!

I like your plan but your Wrong about the PI  its Old Slow and Expensive , you can get a much better Phone for less money , that will have a Camera to record and Screen to Display stuff like QR codes.
This could also be used by stores to build the inventory of their websites, Supernet may want to consider providing that service. so it could be presented as an allround product to drag the company into the 21st century.
Also I think it will be a Huge task to build a trusted system and why reinvent the wheel while u have good year tires in the garage.

That having been said this is really one of the roads we should be heading down.
Id love to help out on this project as long as u dont expect me to Code anything cuz then ull be dissapointed.

Sluppy, I think you have misunderstood what doc is suggesting.
He is saying that he will come up with a touch screen payment processor, NFC card reader device using the Raspberry Pi board. A phone what you suggest is not an alternative to what doc suggests. For example an STM32 discovery board could be an alternative but not a phone. He is talking about the Raspberry Pi that cost £25.

[buy4crypto]

Can I ask our developers, Dave, Doug, Patrick. in the name of transparency to divulge any and all donations that they may have received since the start of this project. This includes, but is not limited to vericoin addresses, fiat, future personal favors, ect?

I don't want to assume things. But we need to know if you have received gifts of any kind from people who are acting on behalf of VeriCoin in the past, present, and future.

SuperNet needs a transparent team. Can you please post the amounts, and if you know who sent the amount, please clarify the name of the handle, so people can have a better clue of how you guys may, or may not be profiting from your work, and the inclusion into SuperNet.


James may find this refreshing, we need the most transparent team now to make this work. We shouldn't be hiding anything, especially if nobody is profiting from this pump close to the developers.

All donations to us have gone directly towards either the Devfund (1500 VRC donated, total), or VeriFund, several BTC donated and around 100k VRC donated (outside of our own donations to it), and finally around 70k donated privately to a fund to help setup a decentralized exchange.

We have not personally profited from any donations.

You can take my word for it, or not. But we won't be disclosing our addresses, coin counts, etc. because we didn't IPO/Premine and we earned all of our own coins by either mining or buying with cold, hard cash and it's nobody's business how much coin we have or what we do with it. I will say that I still haven't sold any of my mined pot of coin until I donated 75k to the superNET fund, and used some VRC to buy shirts, physical coins, and the like.

Patrick,

It's very big of you that you're still responding to buy4crypto, but I wish you wouldn't.  He has nothing to add to our conversations at all other than insulting you guys or the project.

I am still a part of this project, and very skeptical about SuperNet, sure. And trust me I have done plenty of research into this project. So try and win me over. Patrick's response was affirmation that everyone should find reassuring. They are trying to create value for you, but you are messing with a dangerous individual this "anon" dev. Maybe not for the early investors. But at some point before this "SuperNet" is created, someone may come along with resources that make the SuperNet obsolete before it's out the gate.

You are being ripped off of your TRUE asset, credibility, transparency by going into the plan of a anon dev. If you can't see that point of view, then you are not looking close at your investment.

You can be so much more than part of the SuperNet in time if the guys can find a way to seperate itself from being one of the many SuperNet coin, to being "THE" supernet coin, but that role is already reserved for jl777 and where he has more skin in the game.

There is only room for so many virtual currencies in this world, Bitcoin is evidence daily that 1 virtual currency with 10''s of thousands of devs working open source, will always be better than 1 or 2 going at things the same way.

I think VRC needed to get to regulation town first. Bringing in the new front man as a anonymous dev sets this project and the ability to join the "COIN" ETF that's launching from the Winklevoss's back quite a bit don't you think? But if you want to get mainstream, without regulation, that certainly will be a challenge under the leadership of a anon dev who switches the game plan up at every turn.

I am in no way anon, I thought this coin was my baby because I could see, and go talk to the devs if I wanted, and they showed incredible foresight into wanting to be "mainstream" which I interpereted as wanting to achieve regulation, and in my eyes change the culture of crypto for the better. If this is okay to be anonymous now, I will no longer be able to support the actions of anyone "anonymous"

Before this deal started, dev 4 was supposed to be public. Now, he is not. That is something I find incredibly hurtful to the "clean" and transparent nature this team was supposed to represent. Do you NOT see any conflict?

Hope is a powerful thing. Before this "deal" the order book looked thin. I get that people are desperate. But open up your eyes people are realize longterm you might have destined this coin to be just another, when you could have been THE one. It was your call. Unfortunate, indeed.

[souljah1h]

I dont think there is a 'dev4' its just 3rth party..

[buy4crypto]

James please say a little of your plan here so this coin will start the rise again so before the launch of the supernet the price will be attractive. thank you

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Then why do I constantly see things like this? People look to anon third party james, more than our own leadership.

Xosihc just was at the state fair, talking to senators! I was so proud, then the next post I see is this. He is looking to this third party, or anon dev 4 for direction on what to do next... I mean... WOW no?  

That is one VeriLeader under the control of jl777, I can mention pretty much the whole VeriLeader crew in that same sentance. I am so ashamed to call myself a VeriLeader. But I am better than that. I will defend this coin, because its worth it. Because I am what all the future Verileaders will aspire to be.

Respected members of the comunity, Verileader's, asking for direction from the new anonymous shot caller, over leadership. Simply amazing.

[yoshiwatusi]

" My baby coin VRC...but I dont own any vrc.." .b4c

[setup]

James please say a little of your plan here so this coin will start the rise again so before the launch of the supernet the price will be attractive. thank you

this +1

Then why do I constantly see things like this? People look to anon third party james, more than our own leadership.

Xosihc just was at the state fair, talking to senators! I was so proud, then the next post I see is this. He is looking to this third party, or anon dev 4 for direction on what to do next... I mean... WOW no?  

That is one VeriLeader under the control of jl777, I can mention pretty much the whole VeriLeader crew in that same sentance. I am so ashamed to call myself a VeriLeader. But I am better than that. I will defend this coin, because its worth it. Because I am what all the future Verileaders will aspire to be.

Respected members of the comunity, Verileader's, asking for direction from the new anonymous shot caller, over leadership. Simply amazing.

You call yourself a Veryleader and do not own even one VRC? Very helpful!

edit: Yoshiwatusi thought the same but was faster

[souljah1h]

[buy4crypto]

I may be wrong to be under the impression that jl777 had more to do with the team than I thought. My fault.

But you must understand this honest mistake as I have not had nearly enough time to watch this thread. And I constantly see people looking to him, and conversing with him about "his plan", and findings ways to bend over backwards to meet this anon devs financial needs is sickening to me.

Going forward I realize this, and will not make that mistake that he is a part of the team. He is a third party, the same as coinsis, and the other ones we are banking on to get us ahead of the game.

I hope others start looking to our developers going forward more than this plan. I haven't seen any respect for the developers and there work since jl777 came aboard and talked himself up enough to take the hearts and minds of some of the most active VeriLeaders.

[buy4crypto]

" My baby coin VRC...but I dont own any vrc.." .b4c

Could someone answer my question about why VeriLeader's, and comunity members are asking him to pump the price?

I asked why people are looking to this anon person for leadership and here are 3 responses in 2 minutes...


x2 active members telling me I have no VRC

x1 active members telling me I'm a troll.


Anyone left in this thread with and self respect, or class that would mind answering the question please?

[buy4crypto]

Anyways, nobody will answer, because the answer is obvious. People are desperate for price appreciation.


Anyways. Drink the koolaid folks. I am certainly not 1 to rain on anyone's parade. Infact, I CAN HONESTLY say I hope this is the next multibillion dollar coin.



I officially resign from VeriLeader, any and all involvement in VeriCoin ceasts today outside of my squatted domains.

gl in your future investments guys and gals.

[criptix]

" My baby coin VRC...but I dont own any vrc.." .b4c

Could someone answer my question about why VeriLeader's, and comunity members are asking him to pump the price?

I asked why people are looking to this anon person for leadership and here are 3 responses in 2 minutes...


x2 active members telling me I have no VRC

x1 active members telling me I'm a troll.


Anyone left in this thread with and self respect, or class that would mind answering the question please?

I said i didnt want to reply to you anymore but one last time:

Because you are straight up lying, spreading baseless accusations and calling names.

Read your last 10 post in this thread.

I could point everything out but it would take me atleast a hour to do so lol

If you are really interested in vericoin do yourself the favour and research everything about vericoin and supernet again.

Also why are you supporting monero and darkcoin?

[criptix]

Anyways, nobody will answer, because the answer is obvious. People are desperate for price appreciation.


Anyways. Drink the koolaid folks. I am certainly not 1 to rain on anyone's parade. Infact, I CAN HONESTLY say I hope this is the next multibillion dollar coin.



I officially resign from VeriLeader, any and all involvement in VeriCoin ceasts today outside of my squatted domains.

gl in your future investments guys and gals.

Thanks and bye

[effectsToCause]

I know Crindon gave a sizable amount. (He was part of the pump team with Patrick and others in June / July, He gave a very nice public donation to Patrick after he sold out.) I am sure many others didn't want there donations known (Wizrig and others), but maybe its time to mention any side accounts, or family members who have profited from this? In the name of transparency. Maybe friends of friends have large accounts they are trading? We know Doug, and Patrick both have relatives invested in the coin. We have heard that you 3 dev's don't trade, but that leaves the door open for family / friends, and these new teammates, who have made the price jump on so little as speculation.


We already know "anon" dev 4 is a coin trader with a personal stash of at least 200k VRC by his words recently. He makes big profits, and big plans around buying / selling / developing. I don't care how ethical you may think he is, anonymous is not ethical. Nor what he, and his team may be doing behind the scenes with the momentum created from his own doing.




Greed is a temptress. If you're not one of the few people "in the know" I would be extremely careful of hoping for a future promise to come to fruition. But by all means, ride the waves, take profits on the momentum. You will ensure that the anon dev cannot take your profits when he is ready to fade back into the shadows for whatever reason he decides when its time to pull the plug.

Pat already addressed nearly everything regarding this.  I did receive one tip of .2 BTC from Wizrig once for my work on the wallet, when I was up all night working on it.  I actually told him after that I wasn't comfortable receiving tips like this.  I would rather just put the work in to improving VeriCoin, it's value and that be my reward.  This way I don't feel obligated to do anything in any way  (he never asked me to do anything for him though).  I also have all my mined coins and bought some on the market and I am holding for the long run.  Friends and family are also holding for long run.