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June 17, 2014, 07:15:21 AM |
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Any development news?
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Nothing too exciting right now, we've been working on (and finished, minus the few things we'll have to do just before it goes live) everything for backend ocore (F@H's next-generation folding software) support on our end, and we're also moving along with the stuff for the conference, we'll be posting conference materials in the next week or two. Did find some info about the new "Ocore" - "Another advantage of the streaming core is that deadlines are easier to handle and it's more efficient. Under traditional cores if I drop out of F@h then it takes weeks for my workunit to timeout and get reassigned. A stream core gains efficiency by synchronizing much more frequently. Now the results are returned to Stanford at every frame. This means that they get the results in a more continuous fashion. Also, every hour or so the Stanford servers are also sent "checkpoints", which are larger and more precise than frames but allow a stream to be resumed from that point. So now, if I go offline someone else can quickly pick up my stream where I left off, and there's less than an hour of downtime. Then I come back to the project I'd get a different stream to push forward." "This is a totally different core and uses a totally different backend. It is designed for 24x7x356 folding." "We actually want to encourage people to hold onto a single "WU" for as long as possible. We can probably make a contest of sorts down the road to see who can fold for the longest." "We're working on unity, so that a single project can be completed by CPU cores, OpenCL cores, and possibly CUDA cores down the road. " "Yes OCore supports AVX" "In the past a project was hosted by one work server, if the server was down, project was down. With ocores, a single target can be processed by multiple servers, allowing for more redundancy and better load balancing." This looks great! Question: When are we shedualed to switch to the new core? Do we have a date? Question: Are windows folding supported? Question: Is it ok to stay in the "old" way of folding in parallel with the new? Question: Vorksholk - how is your new folding working out, did see you where running the new Ocore?! Now we can have multiple payout per day! True? Calling ChasingTheDream - Now your "bad" hardware might work again!!! //Aboy68 |
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Aboy68
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June 17, 2014, 07:17:04 AM |
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Calling Aboy68  I think you will pass me in a day or two. I'm running as fast as I can but it looks like you are faster. lol Congrats! I'm taking 6 GPU's (290X TRI-X's) offline permanently due to the hardware issues I've mentioned before. I suspect I'll be over 2 million PPD even after I take them offline because I couldn't keep them running most of the time anyway. In fact, I've already taken 4 of them offline and my PPD have barely dropped because I can run a single GPU per system at full factory overclocked speeds rather than underclocking them by a big margin to get two to run poorly in the systems. That is an idea of how much downtime I was having.  At least things will be much more stable going forward! I have 2 GPU's that are broken, one are downing my PSU totaly, the PSU dont starts with that GPU. One do FAIL all the time, thinking of sending them back to the manufacturer. Happy folding //Aboy68 |
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June 17, 2014, 05:18:26 PM |
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Calling Aboy68 I think you will pass me in a day or two. I'm running as fast as I can but it looks like you are faster. lol Congrats! I'm taking 6 GPU's (290X TRI-X's) offline permanently due to the hardware issues I've mentioned before. I suspect I'll be over 2 million PPD even after I take them offline because I couldn't keep them running most of the time anyway. In fact, I've already taken 4 of them offline and my PPD have barely dropped because I can run a single GPU per system at full factory overclocked speeds rather than underclocking them by a big margin to get two to run poorly in the systems. That is an idea of how much downtime I was having. At least things will be much more stable going forward! I have 2 GPU's that are broken, one are downing my PSU totaly, the PSU dont starts with that GPU. One do FAIL all the time, thinking of sending them back to the manufacturer. Happy folding //Aboy68 We are still doing quite well considering the amount of hardware issues we've run into. I'm not sure what I will do with the GPU's I've pulled from the machines. I may sell them or I may keep them as spares so when my others die I have another card immediately available. At some point there may be a resolution to keep them running to so I'm not in a big hurry to sell them. |
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June 17, 2014, 07:38:51 PM |
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Any development news?
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Nothing too exciting right now, we've been working on (and finished, minus the few things we'll have to do just before it goes live) everything for backend ocore (F@H's next-generation folding software) support on our end, and we're also moving along with the stuff for the conference, we'll be posting conference materials in the next week or two. Did find some info about the new "Ocore" - "Another advantage of the streaming core is that deadlines are easier to handle and it's more efficient. Under traditional cores if I drop out of F@h then it takes weeks for my workunit to timeout and get reassigned. A stream core gains efficiency by synchronizing much more frequently. Now the results are returned to Stanford at every frame. This means that they get the results in a more continuous fashion. Also, every hour or so the Stanford servers are also sent "checkpoints", which are larger and more precise than frames but allow a stream to be resumed from that point. So now, if I go offline someone else can quickly pick up my stream where I left off, and there's less than an hour of downtime. Then I come back to the project I'd get a different stream to push forward." "This is a totally different core and uses a totally different backend. It is designed for 24x7x356 folding." "We actually want to encourage people to hold onto a single "WU" for as long as possible. We can probably make a contest of sorts down the road to see who can fold for the longest." "We're working on unity, so that a single project can be completed by CPU cores, OpenCL cores, and possibly CUDA cores down the road. " "Yes OCore supports AVX" "In the past a project was hosted by one work server, if the server was down, project was down. With ocores, a single target can be processed by multiple servers, allowing for more redundancy and better load balancing." This looks great! Question: When are we shedualed to switch to the new core? Do we have a date? Question: Are windows folding supported? Question: Is it ok to stay in the "old" way of folding in parallel with the new? Question: Vorksholk - how is your new folding working out, did see you where running the new Ocore?! Now we can have multiple payout per day! True? Calling ChasingTheDream - Now your "bad" hardware might work again!!! //Aboy68 Yup, ocore's pretty awesome! We don't have a date yet for when ocore transitions will occur for Curecoin payouts. As it stands, ocore is doing 'production' work, but is not currently scrabbling to the standard Stanford point system, and the way in which points will be assigned for ocore is still up in the air. As it stands, we could easily benchmark existing hardware to provide similar performance, but that's not the most elegant solution, for sure. It is really up to Stanford as to when they wish the transition to occur. Windows ocores will be available  Yeah, as long as Stanford continues to support the old cores, Curecoin will still do payouts for them! However, ocores will likely have a slight point advantage, so it'd likely be in a person's best interest to fold ocore-style. Additionally, ocore may be pushed as an updated core to client v7, in which case those systems would switch over automatically. Folding on ocore is working great, EC2 servers @ around 7 or 8 cents per hour can compute along the same performance as a Nvidia 760, which is pretty awesome. |
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June 17, 2014, 08:59:15 PM |
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I did get my first minted curecoint today  walletpassphrase <your password> 99999999 true //Aboy68 |
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June 17, 2014, 09:27:03 PM
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If I get this in frame 18, what should I get as an payout today? Around 220coins? All day long I have hade rank 3 in this list http://curecoin.net/index.php/en/inside-curecoin/statsGenerated: 2014 06 17 39:04:05 NOTE: This page is simply an estimate. It shows the approximate points earned since the last stats collection + payout. This is called a frame. Estimated CUR/PPD is calculated based on the user's current percentage times 7488. This would be the approximate number of coins paid out if a payout were to occur RIGHT NOW. Hours passed in frame: 18 Rank User Frame Points Percentage Estimated Earnings 1 [FAH]ooitsme 18404436 23.421% 1753.727 2 [FAH]cujo 4882922 6.214% 465.285 3 [FAH]Aboy68 2324038 2.957% 221.454 Tomorrow I will update with the actual payout: 192 coins (Why do we have this drop of 29 coins = 13% = 3 GPU down in performance?) Sorry but I can't make this work in my overheated brain! //Aboy68 |
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June 17, 2014, 09:47:36 PM |
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If I get this in frame 18, what should I get as an payout today? Around 220coins? All day long I have hade rank 3 in this list http://curecoin.net/index.php/en/inside-curecoin/statsGenerated: 2014 06 17 39:04:05 NOTE: This page is simply an estimate. It shows the approximate points earned since the last stats collection + payout. This is called a frame. Estimated CUR/PPD is calculated based on the user's current percentage times 7488. This would be the approximate number of coins paid out if a payout were to occur RIGHT NOW. Hours passed in frame: 18 Rank User Frame Points Percentage Estimated Earnings 1 [FAH]ooitsme 18404436 23.421% 1753.727 2 [FAH]cujo 4882922 6.214% 465.285 3 [FAH]Aboy68 2324038 2.957% 221.454 Tomorrow I will update with the actual payout: HERE //Aboy68 Coins per day: 148.935356339 * Note: there is no API available for a webserver to use that gives yesterday's Curecoin team points, so my system has to use the average daily Curecoin teampoints. This can result in a slow change when the daily points drops or rises very fast. |
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June 19, 2014, 09:35:25 AM |
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How's the prep work for the conference coming along?
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June 19, 2014, 05:30:55 PM |
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Price just crashed.. This sucks, I can't break even folding anymore.
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ChasingTheDream
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June 20, 2014, 03:43:09 AM |
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Price just crashed.. This sucks, I can't break even folding anymore.
Yeah for those that are selling immediately to pay for utility bills I completely understand. I'm taking a longer term approach. I haven't even looked to see if I'm ahead or behind because I don't actually plan on selling any CureCoins for a couple years at least. I'll just keep accumulating CureCoins for the life of my hardware and if they ever amount to anything great. If they don't, at the least the energy used to get them did real valuable work that will hopefully help someone. Maybe even me or my family. |
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June 20, 2014, 03:51:01 AM |
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Same here, not really looking for value of the coin. Did folding before the coin, now occasionally folding for coins (Still bouncing between team numbers) If in few years the cumulated coins have value: great. If not: at least we kicked some cancer's butt Keep folding |
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June 20, 2014, 02:39:18 PM |
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Price just crashed.. This sucks, I can't break even folding anymore.
Yeah for those that are selling immediately to pay for utility bills I completely understand. I'm taking a longer term approach. I haven't even looked to see if I'm ahead or behind because I don't actually plan on selling any CureCoins for a couple years at least. I'll just keep accumulating CureCoins for the life of my hardware and if they ever amount to anything great. If they don't, at the least the energy used to get them did real valuable work that will hopefully help someone. Maybe even me or my family. Totally with you! |
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June 20, 2014, 02:43:18 PM |
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To run statistics in PPD are not the best way to show your performance. Like these couple of day the performance have degraded if you count PPD, but what I can see. everybodys points have gone down. It would be better to get a graf with your % of curecoin folding to check if you are doing what your hardware should do. If someone handy reads this and have time and energy it would be nice to have A graf like http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com in % and but on the curecoin webpage.... related to our share of coins. //Aboy68 |
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June 20, 2014, 03:52:00 PM |
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To run statistics in PPD are not the best way to show your performance. Like these couple of day the performance have degraded if you count PPD, but what I can see. everybodys points have gone down. It would be better to get a graf with your % of curecoin folding to check if you are doing what your hardware should do. If someone handy reads this and have time and energy it would be nice to have A graf like http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com in % and but on the curecoin webpage.... related to our share of coins. //Aboy68 Hey Aboy68, PPLNS was adjusted a while ago to make payouts more reflective of daily performance, but it seems some people's payouts are still lower than they expected. Unfortunately Cygnus-XI has some IRL stuff to deal with these next few days, but we'll be looking into it more shortly. However, did you notice recently that the payouts have been closer to what you're expecting? |
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June 20, 2014, 06:02:06 PM |
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To run statistics in PPD are not the best way to show your performance. Like these couple of day the performance have degraded if you count PPD, but what I can see. everybodys points have gone down. It would be better to get a graf with your % of curecoin folding to check if you are doing what your hardware should do. If someone handy reads this and have time and energy it would be nice to have A graf like http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com in % and but on the curecoin webpage.... related to our share of coins. //Aboy68 Hey Aboy68, PPLNS was adjusted a while ago to make payouts more reflective of daily performance, but it seems some people's payouts are still lower than they expected. Unfortunately Cygnus-XI has some IRL stuff to deal with these next few days, but we'll be looking into it more shortly. However, did you notice recently that the payouts have been closer to what you're expecting? The last two days have been closer to expected. I hope it stays like that. Thanks. //Aboy68 |
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June 20, 2014, 06:05:01 PM |
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Did get more Minted coins today! The minted coins are they regularly like every day or are they depending on when your coins came in to the wallet. What should we expect?
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June 21, 2014, 01:03:27 AM |
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Did get more Minted coins today! The minted coins are they regularly like every day or are they depending on when your coins came in to the wallet. What should we expect?
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Are you talking about the "PoF" (Proof of Stake) blocks? If so, those are usually 30 days after the staking coins first entered your wallet |
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June 21, 2014, 03:37:02 PM |
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Did get more Minted coins today! The minted coins are they regularly like every day or are they depending on when your coins came in to the wallet. What should we expect?
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Are you talking about the "PoF" (Proof of Stake) blocks? If so, those are usually 30 days after the staking coins first entered your wallet Yepp, thanks. //Aboy68 |
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June 23, 2014, 10:20:29 AM |
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Technical report: I have had 2 computers with FAIL GPU's, they did report NaN "Not a Number" error and ended with a 'RED' FAIL status of that GPU. I have tried to set my motherboard VGA graphic as main graphic and since then the GPU is working FINE! Now 24h of sucess.
When you do so the information about the GPU like temperature and MHz are blocked out from Windows, but with folding there is no issue with not having that information because the GPU's are not running warm.
YES! Now 100% of my GPUs are running fine and are producing 130000 to 150000 PPD each. AMD 280x cards.
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