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January 26, 2012, 09:22:56 AM
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When will payments go out?

Is it easy to show the upvote address before the poster gives the payout address?

Or simpler, a checkbox for "send my payments back as upvotes". They you should not bother doing the payments in the chain and just give 5x credit and take the whole thing as fee.

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January 26, 2012, 02:29:24 PM
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I think charging even .001 for posting is bad. Finding great stuff and showing it to us is now a great way for someone to get their first coins. If spam gets to be a problem make a checkbox for "hide 0BTC items"
Posting is free, but will only show up under "newest" listing. For something to be "hot" on the front page, it needs to receive btc.

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January 26, 2012, 08:58:08 PM
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I think charging even .001 for posting is bad. Finding great stuff and showing it to us is now a great way for someone to get their first coins. If spam gets to be a problem make a checkbox for "hide 0BTC items"
Posting is free, but will only show up under "newest" listing. For something to be "hot" on the front page, it needs to receive btc.

Right, people are worried that new stuff will get burrieds in a deluge of "asdadjh" and "Eat my butt" and "xxxxxxxYYYYYY" spam postings. If you want to see the new, even the low ones without seeing the totally useless 0 ones a checkbox would be good. This would also give people (posters and others) incentive to make that first tiny payment to distinguish a post they like from the trash.

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January 26, 2012, 09:17:50 PM
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The current HOT formula is [total BTC / sqrt(time since post)] correct? This would mean something really old would be better off being reposted if there was a resurgence of interest.

It could be (payment/sqrt(time since this payment) + (payment/sqrt(time since this payment) + (payment/sqrt(time since this payment) + ...

So that if something starts getting paid a lot again it doesn't have the baggage of being old (which would just make someone make a duplicate posting anyway). In fact under the current setup (if I understand correctly) it would pay for someone to go around making copies of all content that was still getting paid but was somewhat old because their copy could get above the original somewhat cheaply and start earning the influx of new money on it.

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January 26, 2012, 09:46:40 PM
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The current HOT formula is [total BTC / sqrt(time since post)] correct? This would mean something really old would be better off being reposted if there was a resurgence of interest.

It could be (payment/sqrt(time since this payment) + (payment/sqrt(time since this payment) + (payment/sqrt(time since this payment) + ...

So that if something starts getting paid a lot again it doesn't have the baggage of being old (which would just make someone make a duplicate posting anyway). In fact under the current setup (if I understand correctly) it would pay for someone to go around making copies of all content that was still getting paid but was somewhat old because their copy could get above the original somewhat cheaply and start earning the influx of new money on it.
Very good point.  +1, I agree with this formula change.  Make the time based on when payments were made, not when the post was made.
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January 26, 2012, 09:55:25 PM
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The current HOT formula is [total BTC / sqrt(time since post)] correct? This would mean something really old would be better off being reposted if there was a resurgence of interest.

It could be (payment/sqrt(time since this payment) + (payment/sqrt(time since this payment) + (payment/sqrt(time since this payment) + ...

So that if something starts getting paid a lot again it doesn't have the baggage of being old (which would just make someone make a duplicate posting anyway). In fact under the current setup (if I understand correctly) it would pay for someone to go around making copies of all content that was still getting paid but was somewhat old because their copy could get above the original somewhat cheaply and start earning the influx of new money on it.

Very clever, I like it. It will require a little block parsing, but it would make for a great weighting system.

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January 27, 2012, 12:01:47 AM
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There was in the original design a down button. Down votes were counted twice what up votes were counted, and nothing went to the poster. The down vote would be another address for the post.


You are completely missing the point.

When staring at the facebook "like" icon, how often have you wished for a "dislike" icon that might link to a "hatebook" instead?
If you are me, this occurs several times a day. I have no facebook page, but I am ready to sign up for hatebook right now.

Your site's potential profitability is directly proportional to the amount of attention paid to it. Hateful stuff attracts attention.

I propose that you monetize social network connections emerging from common hate. This is an under-exploited niche in my view.


If this ain't a million dollar idea post, I will lick Matthews balls in front of the Cheomseongdae Observatory during peak visiting hour.


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January 27, 2012, 01:16:54 AM
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There was in the original design a down button. Down votes were counted twice what up votes were counted, and nothing went to the poster. The down vote would be another address for the post.


You are completely missing the point.

When staring at the facebook "like" icon, how often have you wished for a "dislike" icon that might link to a "hatebook" instead?
If you are me, this occurs several times a day. I have no facebook page, but I am ready to sign up for hatebook right now.

Your site's potential profitability is directly proportional to the amount of attention paid to it. Hateful stuff attracts attention.

I propose that you monetize social network connections emerging from common hate. This is an under-exploited niche in my view.


If this ain't a million dollar idea post, I will lick Matthews balls in front of the Cheomseongdae Observatory during peak visiting hour.


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We will see. After seeing a bunch of requests for this, I am going with the flow. There are now down-votes on the site. Down-votes count twice as much as up-votes.

I'll add the hated section tomorrow.




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January 27, 2012, 03:29:25 PM
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There is now a section in the site called "hated" which is all things that have negative BTC values.

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January 28, 2012, 03:42:53 AM
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There is now a section in the site called "hated" which is all things that have negative BTC values.


You should probably delete this. You don't seem to grasp the idea at all, so it doesn't make sense for you to pursue it.

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January 28, 2012, 04:46:25 PM
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There is now a section in the site called "hated" which is all things that have negative BTC values.

You should probably delete this. You don't seem to grasp the idea at all, so it doesn't make sense for you to pursue it.

Now I'm in a pickle! Boy, that link sucks (in reference to the first link in the new 'Hated' section)! In a way, I agree with cunicula, but in another way I don't. Even if his statement "You don't seem to grasp the idea at all" is accurate, at least Rob is trying his damndest to make this a go. I would say he's still open for suggestion on this aspect, as well as any others related to the site. That said, I've never been too keen on the word 'hate'. Perhaps titling it 'abhor' or 'loathe' (no past tense) may be better suited for this section. I lean toward 'loathe'.

So, instead of simply deleting this section, let's explore, together, on how we can make this work. If it turns out to be a bomb, Rob's smart enough to rid that section, thus freeing up his time developing the sound attributes of this venerable website.

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January 28, 2012, 04:57:27 PM
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Please advice on how to link in the Hated section (soon to be renamed, I hope). I just tried, but the process eludes me.

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January 28, 2012, 06:53:44 PM
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I am afraid I don't understand what is being suggested.

Anyone want to explain it in sudocode.

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January 29, 2012, 12:50:01 AM
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I am afraid I don't understand what is being suggested.

Anyone want to explain it in sudocode.

cunicula thinks that the hate section should be removed since, he claims, you're not sure of the concept. After seeing the first link, I went to the fence, but offered renaming it "Loathe". Also, how do can I list my links on the hate section?
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January 29, 2012, 02:30:53 AM
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Can you add tags and languages support? ( I don't mean multilanguage pages, evn if this can be another feature )
So people will be able to search their own language news.

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January 29, 2012, 05:10:09 PM
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I'm still having trouble posting in the "Hated" (hopefully, soon to be renamed) section.

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January 29, 2012, 05:56:53 PM
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I'm still having trouble posting in the "Hated" (hopefully, soon to be renamed) section.

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Just post something and down vote it. Anything with negative BTC will appear there.

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January 29, 2012, 06:06:46 PM
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pretty cool stuff  Grin One thing you should change is " Put your money where your mind is"  shouldn't it be " Put your bitcoins where your mind is" ? just my 2 cents.
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January 30, 2012, 01:12:49 AM
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I'm still having trouble posting in the "Hated" (hopefully, soon to be renamed) section.

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Just post something and down vote it. Anything with negative BTC will appear there.

Stupid me! Got it! I just want to let you know again that I feel you have a great product here. Anytime I think of something that I feel will help you, I will freely share with you.

I think that later down the road as more people post stuff, you may have to go with that micro-payment-to-post aspect. Then again, maybe not. Just thought of something. If I post something and truly want it to get to the top of the ladder, so to speak, all I have to do is fund it. Forgive me if this has already been discussed but I'm high as a kite on Vicadins at the moment. (knee hurts)
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January 30, 2012, 07:19:17 PM
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pretty cool stuff  Grin One thing you should change is " Put your money where your mind is"  shouldn't it be " Put your bitcoins where your mind is" ? just my 2 cents.

It doesn't really sound as smooth. I consider bitcoins money, so using the word money seems to work fine.

I'm still having trouble posting in the "Hated" (hopefully, soon to be renamed) section.

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Just post something and down vote it. Anything with negative BTC will appear there.

Stupid me! Got it! I just want to let you know again that I feel you have a great product here. Anytime I think of something that I feel will help you, I will freely share with you.

I think that later down the road as more people post stuff, you may have to go with that micro-payment-to-post aspect. Then again, maybe not. Just thought of something. If I post something and truly want it to get to the top of the ladder, so to speak, all I have to do is fund it. Forgive me if this has already been discussed but I'm high as a kite on Vicadins at the moment. (knee hurts)


The more people post stuff, the more it will matter that they pay. The "newest" list is the only place unfunded stuff shows, and it will only show the newest 100 posts. If people spam the heck out of it, they will all just fall off the stream.

I consider newest to be just a holding ground for things that need funding.

Enjoy the drugs, and thank you for giving suggestions. I enjoy improving this site.

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