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January 31, 2012, 11:39:14 AM
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Given that, as an employer, why in the digital age would you waste your time and money probing someone in an interview or probationary employment to discover their bad habits or their inability to exercise common sense when you can find it within seconds by doing an online search?   I absolutely cannot imagine that people in the publishing business - who also receive tons of submissions they must whittle down regularly - would not do the same thing.
Most American corporation now have a social networking research department. They background check employees and everything related to their industry. There are also Bitcoin detractors on these forums that will do things to sabotage Bitcoin and any business that may spring from it. They will gladly "Wagnerize" Matthew without hesitation.

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January 31, 2012, 11:45:38 AM
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This is a classic case of people who bought into the system trying to cloud things with their fear of reactions. Key point here, I'm the editor, not the sole designer, writer, publisher, etc. What Mike seems to think is that my forum posts are going to have anything to with a distributor picking up a magazine owned by a company that I am mot even controlling equity owner of.

Your tin foil hat is looking mighty shiny there buddy. I'll take all the advice just the same, and I'll be the first to admit it if in fact it ever made a difference, but you know how insane you sound right now right?

"Careful matthew! If you leave "STFU" in the "Editor's rant" section, Barnes and Noble won't pick up the magazine!"

That's funny, given the amount of mildly pornographic and filthy language and enuendo ridden skateboarding magazines, skin magazines, and MAXIM for that matter.

Your fears are understood, but highly unfounded. That's my two fiat cents.


P.S. Don't anyone out there listen to this drivel. When you are making your own product and have your own backing, be brave and tackle the markets. Don't let unimaginitive fear mongers hold you back. Mike probably thinks my educational background will also play a part of the magazine succeeding too. Oh, you wanted to make a product? Sorry, you didn't go to Harvard...

Disgusting.

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January 31, 2012, 11:47:12 AM
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You guys are blowing things out of proportion. We are not job hunting here. We are givingbthe rights to distribute a profitable magazine to a bookstore chain. Get a grip.

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January 31, 2012, 11:53:44 AM
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I wonder if you have taken the bold step of communicating with Bruce Wagner. He has been instrumental in popularizing Bitcoin and organizing the first convention. Did I just say that out loud?  Wink

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January 31, 2012, 12:03:35 PM
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I wonder if you have taken the bold step of communicating with Bruce Wagner. He has been instrumental in popularizing Bitcoin and organizing the first convention. Did I just say that out loud?  Wink

Hehe. I think anyone who wants bitcoin to work is welcome to the party, but I won't be working with self-importants or extremists on this project.

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January 31, 2012, 02:11:36 PM
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This is a classic case of people who bought into the system trying to cloud things with their fear of reactions. Key point here, I'm the editor, not the sole designer, writer, publisher, etc. What Mike seems to think is that my forum posts are going to have anything to with a distributor picking up a magazine owned by a company that I am mot even controlling equity owner of.

Your tin foil hat is looking mighty shiny there buddy. I'll take all the advice just the same, and I'll be the first to admit it if in fact it ever made a difference, but you know how insane you sound right now right?

If it ever makes a difference, you'll be the last to know.  That's how these things work.

"Careful matthew! If you leave "STFU" in the "Editor's rant" section, Barnes and Noble won't pick up the magazine!"

The "suck my dick" bit is likely to be more instantly damaging all else equal.  But yes, "STFU" might very well be all they need to know.  They don't have space on their magazine rack for everything printed just because it has an ISBN number.  They can and most certainly do judge things on the merits.  The fear is not based on any concern they are worried that 18-41 year olds will get offended by the F-word, the fear is that their reaction will be, "WTF is this?".  Wikipedia, with unlimited publication space, explains this concept using the phrase "Wikipedia is not for things made up in school one day" (you can Google it if you need it explained to you).  B&N, with not-so-unlimited shelf space, follows the same policy even if they don't call it that.  The demand for MAXIM and skateboarding magazines is already well established and not a useful indicator of what they will think of a brand new publication.

P.S. Don't anyone out there listen to this drivel. When you are making your own product and have your own backing, be brave and tackle the markets. Don't let unimaginitive fear mongers hold you back. Mike probably thinks my educational background will also play a part of the magazine succeeding too. Oh, you wanted to make a product? Sorry, you didn't go to Harvard...
Disgusting.

It's redundant to remind you I haven't once suggested that one must have Ivy league credentials to get B&N to carry your work, but hopefully they either won't do any research, or if they do, let's just hope they don't doubt you've graduated from adolescence.

I've said my piece, publish what you will.

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January 31, 2012, 02:21:21 PM
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Sorry about my last messages, they were poorly constructed in haste from my iPhone while hanging out with my girlfriend. I'll do better here.

I've said my piece, publish what you will.

Alright. And if I hear back from the printers, publishers, distributors, agents or stores themselves that "STFU" would ever stop a magazine from getting accepted at Barnes and Noble, I will surely report back for the education of all-- but only when I find proof.

Let's keep the baseless FUD in the Speculation subforum.

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January 31, 2012, 02:26:42 PM
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Alright. And if I hear back from the printers, publishers, distributors, agents or stores themselves that "STFU" would ever stop a magazine from getting accepted at Barnes and Noble, I will surely report back for the education of all-- but only when I find proof.

Something you will never hear in such convenient detail, of course.  The only thing you will likely hear is, "Dear Mr. Wright, thank you very much for your submission of your publication for our review.  We regret to inform you that we have decided not to carry it". (or any more issues of it, as the case may be)  Let's toast to that not happening (now that I am told that you are of legal drinking age Wink).

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January 31, 2012, 02:57:51 PM
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Alright. And if I hear back from the printers, publishers, distributors, agents or stores themselves that "STFU" would ever stop a magazine from getting accepted at Barnes and Noble, I will surely report back for the education of all-- but only when I find proof.

Something you will never hear in such convenient detail, of course.  The only thing you will likely hear is, "Dear Mr. Wright, thank you very much for your submission of your publication for our review.  We regret to inform you that we have decided not to carry it". (or any more issues of it, as the case may be)  Let's toast to that not happening (now that I am told that you are of legal drinking age Wink).


Mike, I'm 26 and have been doing business since I was 13. The only thing "new" to me is meeting so many self-important blowhards who think their tiny efforts in the Bitcoin society matter because "bitcoin". I have work ethics, impeccable sense of people's character, and extremely deep vision for projects. This magazine is not for you, or bitcointalk.org. It's for bitcoiners, just like a skateboard magazine is for skateboarders. You do not need to convince skateboarders to skateboard, but people will want to skateboard when they see the magazine photos of awesome tricks. "I want to do that".

This magazine will inadvertently cause people to use Bitcoin. It is not a propaganda or Jehova's witness style leaflet. It is a collection of pieces of truth about bitcoin, bad and good, represented in a perfect balance of comedy and serious analogy that I am sure you, your grandma, and your neighborhood children will all enjoy to some degree.

Now let's talk about Barnes and Noble. As a published author (I've been quite busy here in Korea for the past 7 years) I have to cut this FUD off right now and give you some insight into the actual selection process.

  • Distributor looks at quality of publication
  • Distributor accepts publication easily
  • Barnes and Noble (and other stores) look at the distributor's catalog
  • Barnes and Noble (and other stores) decide to ask for some sample issues of the magazine
  • Barnes and Noble (and other stores) make sure the magazine is not full of porn and pay attention to the overall content based on the current interest of the world in Bitcoin/cryptography/technology/cyber politics/etc

There are only two reasons why Barnes and Noble would decide to stop carrying out magazine later on:

  • Because they are out of room and it's not selling well enough
  • Because they believe Bitcoin is not popular enough

There is no chance that Barnes and Noble nor their distribution partners would ever google the editor's name, find out what forum he is active on, look at his avatar on his profile and then deny a potentially profitable product.

You are so delusional and paranoid to even think such a thing. Thank you for your criticisms though, I just hope next time you know that you can do just like the other 100+ users of this forum have done and just PM me directly to see what I think instead of trying to make me sound like I'm "unfit" for the job. While you're basking in your own self importance, let me actually finalize an issue first so we can all sit back and judge it for what it actually is, when it actually gets out.

That said, I hear your snotty tone, I take the good out, I accept it, I adapt, I move on. Thank you for this learning experience for all of us. This argument of "Is Matthew fit to be editor" issue was bound to happen sooner or later, I just would have expected it to be coming from someone I pissed off more often. Also, I apologize about the "yo momma" joke, it was intended to be dumb, it was my way of trolling you. As my own mother passed away from cancer this last Christmas (did you see the Christmas Special? I did that right after flying back to Korea, having seen my mother die in front of my from choking on her own fluids and still did entertain the community, because I can.) I doubt I'll be making any "yo momma" jokes at least for a little while.


On another note, how's the taking-everything-good-about-bitcoins-decentralized-nature-and-ruining-it-by-requiring-everyone-trust-you-are-not-writing-down-every-private-key-somewhere business going for you? Are you happy that you're ruining bitcoin? how about them Mets?

(This is just me having fun being a troll, you don't actually have to respond and I think your coins are a fun idea regardless Wink.)

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January 31, 2012, 03:34:04 PM
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This magazine is not for you, or bitcointalk.org. It's for bitcoiners, just like a skateboard magazine is for skateboarders.

Bitcoiners are well-versed in consuming digital downloads and wouldn't usually go to B&N for a magazine just to get it in print for the same reason they wouldn't go to Western Union to transfer funds if they didn't have to.

The exciting part about an in-print Bitcoin magazine is new reach.  What's the point of printing a magazine if not for that?

Now let's talk about Barnes and Noble. As a published author (I've been quite busy here in Korea for the past 7 years) I have to cut this FUD off right now and give you some insight into the actual selection process.

Hum.  You just barely learned within the last couple days that B&N actually stands for "Barnes & Noble", not "Barnes & Nobles".  So let's not pretend you just got out of their boardroom and are here to share their secret process about how anything anyone submits to them goes straight to their shelves.

There is no chance that Barnes and Noble nor their distribution partners would ever google the editor's name, find out what forum he is active on, look at his avatar on his profile and then deny a potentially profitable product.

Right.  Because they have never heard of Google, right?  Or they are based in a village with no internet access?  Is there a better reason there is "no chance" they will google your name, or did you just make this up too?

That said, I hear your snotty tone, I take the good out, I accept it, I adapt, I move on. ...... Also, I apologize about the "yo momma" joke, it was intended to be dumb, it was my way of trolling you.

LOL.  Right.  Well, I'm so sorry for having misjudged your age. Smiley

On another note, how's the taking-everything-good-about-bitcoins-decentralized-nature-and-ruining-it-by-requiring-everyone-trust-you-are-not-writing-down-every-private-key-somewhere business going for you? Are you happy that you're ruining bitcoin?

Surprisingly well, to the point I am likely to go wholesale-only, at least for the small-value coins.  If you think they are so dumb and are ruining Bitcoin, then why are you promoting them for example here? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56887.0 ... and why would you contact me and request free coins for your promotion if they are so destructive to Bitcoin?  Why would you want to publish ads for them in your magazine?  Am glad you're kidding around, as you acknowledge.

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January 31, 2012, 03:47:12 PM
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The exciting part about an in-print Bitcoin magazine is new reach.  What's the point of printing a magazine if not for that?
You glazed over my point. I was implying that bitcoiners ultimately become bitcoiners because of bitcoin, not because of a magazine. There are future bitcoiners out there who don't even know it yet, and when they see our magazine, they're going to like bitcoin because of bitcoin and appreciate the magazine for the magazine. We are not misrepresenting Bitcoin as a whole by the editor's rant section saying "STFU". That was my point.

Hum.  You just barely learned within the last couple days that B&N actually stands for "Barnes & Noble", not "Barnes & Nobles".
Yep, caught me there. I've spent most of my life shopping at Barnes and Noble while calling it "Barnes and Nobles". I'm sure this means I couldn't possibly know anything about anything. <3 your logic.


Right.  Because they have never heard of Google, right?  Or they are based in a village with no internet access?  Is there a better reason there is "no chance" they will google your name, or did you just make this up too?
Why would anyone google the editor's name in the first place? Wouldn't it be more likely to google the magazine, the business that makes the magazine, the writers etc? They don't do this for editors, I'm sorry. You're fears are unfounded. Don't worry though, I'll have plenty of chance to provide proof eventually. Let's just let this one be remembered for a later date when it's not based on our opinions.


LOL.  Right.  Well, I'm so sorry for having misjudged your age. Smiley
It's cool. Everyone is different and everyone has weaknesses. Mine is education. Many times my responses are less than appropriate, and it's why I believe support groups like the DCAO, BitTalk Media, etc are helpful for me, to allow me to do my job without actually having room to make too many mistakes. Right now for example, they're saying "Don't reply to the troll. He doesn't deserve your response", but it's hard for me to ignore FUD sometimes.


Surprisingly well, to the point I am likely to go wholesale-only, at least for the small-value coins.  If you think they are so dumb and are ruining Bitcoin, then why are you promoting them for example here? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56887.0 ... and why would you contact me and request free coins for your promotion if they are so destructive to Bitcoin?  Why would you want to publish ads for them in your magazine?
Yes well, as I said, support group and all that. Some people advise things that make sense for certain situations, and I never doubted that your business was not making you money, I was speaking more philosophically-- like how Satoshi is probably turning in his anonymous grave because of your centralization of Bitcoin, etc. Anyway, that was a troll and not really something I care too much about Wink

Gotta have some fun ribbing once in a while to make sure you're still human  Wink

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January 31, 2012, 03:54:59 PM
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Since the term bitcoin is not trademarked, what's to stop some big publisher to come along and copy your idea? I hope you are a competitive sort!

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I've just finished reading this whole thread, and have found it rather enlightening. Would you two be so kind as to take a couple minutes and read the following? http://mastensystems.com/index.php?loadpage=23 I feel that it may be most helpful.

I truly look forward to reading the magazine, Matthew. I wish it much success. I, for one, don't want to see it fail due to any seen or unseen pitfalls.

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Since the term bitcoin is not trademarked, what's to stop some big publisher to come along and copy your idea? I hope you are a competitive sort!

Bitcoin is trademarked by MtGox. lol

I love competition!

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January 31, 2012, 04:04:37 PM
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I've just finished reading this whole thread, and have found it rather enlightening. Would you two be so kind as to take a couple minutes and read the following? http://mastensystems.com/index.php?loadpage=23 I feel that it may be most helpful.

I truly look forward to reading the magazine, Matthew. I wish it much success. I, for one, don't want to see it fail due to any seen or unseen pitfalls.

The article was an excellent read.  I too wish the magazine much success and, as you have probably already surmised, agree with the sentiment of not wanting to see it fail.

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Source: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/help/cds2.asp?pid=8156

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How to Sell Magazines in Barnes & Noble Stores

The Barnes & Noble Newsstand Division currently works with two national distributors, Ingram Periodicals and Source Interlink.

If you are interested in placing your publication in our stores, you must submit a sample of your publication for review to the following address:

Barnes & Noble Newsstand Division
Attn: Molly Thomas
122 5th Avenue, 8th Floor
New York, NY 10011

Direct Distributors

You must also submit your title to the national distributors listed below:

Ingram Periodicals
Attn: Toyka Ridgaway
18 Ingram Blvd.
La Vergne, TN 37086
(615) 213-3611

Source Interlink Fulfillment Division
Attn: Debbie Moore, Product Manager
27500 Riverview Center Blvd., Suite 400
Bonita Springs, FL 34134
(239) 949-4450 ext. 6638

For Weekly and Biweekly publications, send copies to the Source Interlink Fulfillment Division.

If any of the above companies should decide to distribute your publication, they will then present it to the Newsstand buyer at Barnes & Noble, Inc. Although you may sign on with more than one distributor, you must choose one to be the exclusive distributor of your title to Barnes & Noble, Inc.

NOTE: All magazines must be home office approved; store personnel cannot approve your magazine. Any orders placed for your title come from Barnes & Noble's home office through one of the Direct Distributors listed above.

Which service are you using, Matthew? Ingram Periodicals or Source Interlink Fulfillment Division? From what I've been reading, it looks like you'll need a minimum run of 5,000 physical copies before they'll consider accepting a new publication. And that's after they have a physical mock up issue(s) in hand to review the magazine.
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That's thoughtful of you Bruno. We're already in contact with both. I'll let everyone know when there is something it know!

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That's thoughtful of you Bruno. We're already in contact with both. I'll let everyone know when their is something it know!

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Great! Was pretty sure you were on it, but wanted to make sure.

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I've just finished reading this whole thread, and have found it rather enlightening. Would you two be so kind as to take a couple minutes and read the following? http://mastensystems.com/index.php?loadpage=23 I feel that it may be most helpful.

I truly look forward to reading the magazine, Matthew. I wish it much success. I, for one, don't want to see it fail due to any seen or unseen pitfalls.

Regards,

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Loved the article! Remember reading something very similar and thinking "holy crap". I said it before and I'll say it again, without the support of bitcoiners, we've got no chance.

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I've just finished reading this whole thread, and have found it rather enlightening. Would you two be so kind as to take a couple minutes and read the following? http://mastensystems.com/index.php?loadpage=23 I feel that it may be most helpful.

I truly look forward to reading the magazine, Matthew. I wish it much success. I, for one, don't want to see it fail due to any seen or unseen pitfalls.

Regards,

~Bruno~


Loved the article! Remember reading something very similar and thinking "holy crap". I said it before and I'll say it again, without the support of bitcoiners, we've got no chance.

You definitely have your hands full with this magazine project of yours. You get it Wright, and I'll lick your Gyung Dans--in public!


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