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June 29, 2014, 11:07:33 PM
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Update: 29th of June 2014

1. Batch 1 hasn't shipped.

2. Batch 2 hasn't shipped.

3. Refunds refused.

4. No shipping date provided.

5. Customers left holding an empty bag with the latest network difficulty jump.
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June 30, 2014, 09:05:03 PM
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Update: 30th of June 2014

1. Batch 1 hasn't shipped.

2. Batch 2 hasn't shipped.

3. Refunds refused.

4. No shipping date provided.

5. Bitmain releases the AntMiner S3.
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July 01, 2014, 05:12:54 AM
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In recent posts on their forum BA adamantly denies that they are a scam and that they have never lied.

The February 24th shipping date was clearly a lie and when you take peoples money based on a lie it's called fraud making this a SCAM.
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July 01, 2014, 10:28:36 AM
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Update: 1st of July 2014

1. Batch 1 hasn't shipped.

2. Batch 2 hasn't shipped.

3. Refunds refused.

4. No shipping date provided.

5. The long con continues... Customers have now lost BTC19.6 ($12,583 USD@Bitstamp) per X3 in revenue plus, the out-of-pocket cost of an X3 about $5500 USD depending on purchase date.

6. Fraud over $5000.

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July 01, 2014, 08:00:13 PM
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Hi everyone!
I am sick and tired from that BA!!!   Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

26/11/13 I made an order X-1 but when they have stated to postpone the delivery device in May I immediately canceled the order and demanded a refund!

After long declinations me to agree on their wacky proposals that lasted six weeks, finally on April 25th, I was blessed with a news: "Dear Roman, We have removed your order from shipping queue and placed it on refunds queue." (from my ticket [#JTR-408-33380]: refund)

But... still nothing!!!

Already formed about 4 ticket reminded me - as if they had disappeared!!! FU(KING ALIENS Embarrassed

Who knows, how to make a criminal case on these animals?
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July 02, 2014, 11:14:13 AM
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Update: 2nd of July 2014

1. Batch 1 hasn't shipped.

2. Batch 2 hasn't shipped.

3. Refunds refused.

4. No shipping date provided.

5. TechnoBit now shipping Minion based miners.

The Minion data sheet wasn't released until the 27th of May, so that's just over 1 month from design to shipping product for TechnoBit.
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July 02, 2014, 11:15:59 AM
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This is the problem when you pay by BTC, no comeback.
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July 02, 2014, 11:44:19 AM
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This is the problem when you pay by BTC, no comeback.

I paid in USD.
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July 03, 2014, 01:27:44 PM
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Update: 3rd of July 2014

1. Batch 1 hasn't shipped.

2. Batch 2 hasn't shipped.

3. Refunds refused.

4. No shipping date provided.

5. 128 days and counting.
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July 04, 2014, 10:14:40 AM
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Update: 4th of July 2014

1. Batch 1 hasn't shipped.

2. Batch 2 hasn't shipped.

3. Refunds refused.

4. No shipping date provided.

5. Black Arrow gives the Bitcoin mining world a black eye while generating a fortune in untaxed revenue from their customers ASICs.

They're clearly not planning on shipping until the ASICs cost more in power to run than they generate in BTC. Incompetence of this magnitude is an unreasonable argument at this point as they would be unable to produce an ASIC if that were the case.
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July 04, 2014, 10:41:58 AM
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I feel bad for you notbatman. I know what it's like to be scammed by a fraud.

Rest assured the scammers will self-destruct. 
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July 05, 2014, 07:31:34 AM
Last edit: July 05, 2014, 11:16:18 AM by notbatman
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Update: 5th of July 2014

1. Batch 1 hasn't shipped.

2. Batch 2 hasn't shipped.

3. Refunds refused.

4. No shipping date provided.

5. Black Arrow no longer providing weekly update to customers.

No product, no refunds, no communication.



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The horse or at least one of his henchmen has spoken stating that they were too busy to provide an update.
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July 06, 2014, 08:47:01 AM
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Update: 6th of July 2014

1. Batch 1 hasn't shipped.

2. Batch 2 hasn't shipped.

3. Refunds refused.

4. No shipping date provided. 

5. Black Arrow continues to drain the life out of its customers by dragging this scam along for as long as possible.
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July 06, 2014, 09:37:51 AM
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Update: 28th of June 2014

1. Batch 1 hasn't shipped.

2. Batch 2 hasn't shipped.

3. Refunds refused.

4. No shipping date provided.

5. Over 4 months after the stated product shipping date, design plans for the first X3 prototype are said to be almost complete.

I would ask a refund but i know it's pointless to even ask them

S3 are 3 times cheaper and also more energy efficient, so i'd rather have my money back and buy S3, or just buy bitcoins.

BA is a worthless company, maybe even worse than BFL.

I feel bad for you notbatman. I know what it's like to be scammed by a fraud.

Rest assured the scammers will self-destruct.  

maybe, but that won't get us our money back.
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July 07, 2014, 10:33:57 AM
Last edit: July 10, 2014, 08:48:19 AM by notbatman
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Update: 7th of July 2014

1. Batch 1 hasn't shipped.

2. Batch 2 hasn't shipped.

3. Refunds refused.

4. In the latest update shipping of Batch 1 & Batch 2 is stated to be complete by the end of the month.

5. Customers remain sceptical yet hopeful that Black Arrow will actually send something based on their woefully inadequate compensation of 50% more hardware.

While they owe us 550% compensation due to the difficulty increase any such promises to deliver that much would be an obvious lie. We'll see how shipping proceeds and how the title of this thread changes based on this. 50% compensation still deserves some sort of warning however, perhaps "WARNING: Black Arrow Shipped".
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July 08, 2014, 01:28:32 PM
Last edit: July 10, 2014, 08:47:20 AM by notbatman
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Update: 8th of July 2014

1. Batch 1 hasn't shipped.

2. Batch 2 hasn't shipped.

3. Refunds refused.

4. Shipping is stated to be complete by the end of the month.

5. "three more weeks".
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July 09, 2014, 07:44:51 AM
Last edit: July 10, 2014, 08:47:41 AM by notbatman
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Update: 9th of July 2014

1. Batch 1 hasn't shipped.

2. Batch 2 hasn't shipped.

3. Refunds refused.

4. Shipping is stated to be complete by the end of the month.

5. Black Arrow continues with it's unreasonable delay in delivering product.

6. Promises to match current market prices per Gh/s upon shipping broken.

Customers don't even get what their money would buy from vendors with in hand product? How can they claim they're not a scam company?
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July 09, 2014, 09:24:13 PM
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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

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Here is a link to the Shenzhen Consumer Council provided by a legal firm in Shenzhen.  Complaints can be filed through this agency.

Pages are in Chinese, so you will have to translate them if this is not your language.

http://www.sz315.org/index.php?m=content&c=index&a=lists&catid=10

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Here is another agency:
China Consumer's Association

http://www.cca.org.cn/english/index.jsp


http://www.consumersinternational.org/our-members/member-directory/China%20Consumers%20Association

e-mail:  cca1984@vip.sohu.net


What I will say is that people at these agencies have been responsive.  It is also the case that BA left up a link to a Hong Kong consumer group on their self moderated thread and forums for quite a while.  When I posted that Shenzhen link it was deleted PDQ, which makes me think they'd rather not have that floating around.

see also this topic:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681965
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July 10, 2014, 08:52:21 AM
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Update: 10th of July 2014

1. Batch 1 hasn't shipped.

2. Batch 2 hasn't shipped.

3. Refunds refused.

4. Shipping is stated to be complete by the end of the month.

5. A "pallet of bricks" is being used to describe the first shipment of a few hundred X1s to a reseller.
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July 11, 2014, 12:19:56 PM
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Update: 11th of July 2014

1. Batch 1 hasn't shipped.

Re-sellers start receiving their X1s while outstanding direct customers continue to wait for their bricks to be dispatched.

2. Batch 2 hasn't shipped.

3. Refunds refused.

4. Shipping is stated to be complete by the end of the month.

5. Obsolete product.
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