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April 20, 2011, 03:51:59 AM
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Bitcoin Conference 2011 NYC

EDIT:  We have announced that it WILL be August 19-21, here in NYC, at the OnlyOneTV Studios.   And the BIGGEST DAY of the event will be Saturday August 20. ...and that will be at the Roosevelt Hotel, in Vanderbilt Hall.  

See http://bitcoinconference.com



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We're happy to host the event at our new OnlyOneTV Studios here on 5th Avenue in Manhattan, New York City.   We have the entire 5th floor, lots of room, lots of internet, etc.  ....and restaurants deliver free.  :-)

I'm envisioning presentations.... even "booths" or tables...  and hackathons with specific objectives.   We can even go into the wee hours if we want to.

What could be more fun?

( We just registered http://bitcoinconference.com )

Reply with a cc to me via email to be certain I get it:  bruce@onlyonetv.com
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April 20, 2011, 05:02:58 AM
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I might take a road trip, if it seems like there will be something interesting to do.
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April 20, 2011, 05:42:07 AM
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I have a feeling there will be LOTS of interesting things and people...

Some of the biggest players in the Bitcoin world are on my mailing list and I'm coordinating the dates with... so they can fly in.

There are some shockingly amazing projects in the works --- a few of which I've been sworn to secrecy about ---  which plan to make major announcements, revelations, and demonstrations!     :-)

Exciting times we live in....
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There are some shockingly amazing projects in the works --- a few of which I've been sworn to secrecy about ---  which plan to make major announcements, revelations, and demonstrations!     :-)

Exciting times we live in....


You and your exaggeration!

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April 20, 2011, 06:17:25 AM
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Ha ha!

No, I'm not exaggerating!   Cheesy

People tell me things in confidence.

Big development projects are in the works.  Money is being spent on them.   Expect big things. 

And, of course, many very exciting projects are happening that are not secrets at all...  We highlight some of them on this week's, The Bitcoin Show.

But getting together in person ....  Meeting all these key players....  and seeing these new technologies demonstrated ... and being able to play with them first, hands on...

That's gonna be Awesome!
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April 20, 2011, 10:26:23 AM
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That is absolutely the WRONG weekend to do it.

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April 20, 2011, 12:14:56 PM
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Really?   Ok.

What about June 30 - July 3....?

Does anyone have any major conflicts with those dates?
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Unless you hold it there Smiley
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April 20, 2011, 01:03:32 PM
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Really?   Ok.

What about June 30 - July 3....?

Does anyone have any major conflicts with those dates?


That's right before the 4th of July. Though it doesn't conflict directly, I'm sure some people may already have plans for those dates.
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April 20, 2011, 02:12:53 PM
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I'm coming, I'll do whatever it takes to get there.

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April 20, 2011, 02:35:12 PM
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I just might attend this if I can swing it. I'm close enough to bus in, and I have some interesting ideas myself.

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April 20, 2011, 11:16:21 PM
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Ok.......

We're gonna call it Bitcoin Conference & World Expo 2011 NYC....  or BitCon 2011 for short.  I'll put all the details on http://bitcoinconference.com later today.

Gavin = not available June 13 - 14 nor July 7 - Aug 4
Eric & Company = best is late June or mid July, not available July 23 - 26
Independence Day = July 4 weekend
PorcFest = June 20 - 26
Andy = not available June 25 - July 10
Darrell = not available end of Aug - beginning of Sept

What else did I forget!?

 If we want Gavin to be here, it looks like june or august.

 Thats either 2 months out or 4 months out.

 Ed and I think four months out would be the best choice.  That would give everyone more time to plan a trip... and plan presentations and product demonstrations et cetera.
 
So....

 What about August 18th through August 21...?
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April 20, 2011, 11:25:01 PM
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Time to get a visa!
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April 21, 2011, 12:07:10 AM
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So far...  replied  "YES!"  to August 18th through August 21:

  • Eric & Company
  • Jed
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April 21, 2011, 12:48:26 AM
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Time to get a visa!

If you're Irish you don't need one. They have a visa waiver program, you just need to register online or something.

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April 21, 2011, 01:09:29 AM
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August 18-21 looks good.

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April 21, 2011, 01:18:39 AM
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Fine for me.

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April 21, 2011, 01:29:19 AM
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18-21 August works for me.  New York City in August: ah, I can smell it now....

How often do you get the chance to work on a potentially world-changing project?
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April 21, 2011, 01:35:01 AM
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18-21 August works for me.  New York City in August: ah, I can smell it now....


Is it really that bad?

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April 21, 2011, 01:50:15 AM
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Not that I'm a big name or anything, but June is much better than August for me. I can make time for either one, but I'll be bringing my wife, and if it's in August I'll be bringing my very pregnant wife.

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April 21, 2011, 06:55:32 AM
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@SunAvatar,  Bring her in a wheelchair...  Your son or daughter could be born a New Yorker...  and talk funny forever.  Wink    We do have lots of great hospitals very very nearby.

@Nefario, I say it's not that bad.  People talk about how hot it is in the summer, but come on...  I grew up in Ohio, and it never seems any hotter here than there.  Shorts, t-shirts, and sandals is a worst case scenario.   We lived in Palm Beach before moving here, and I can tell you that South Florida in the Summer makes New York seem like a Spring day.

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April 21, 2011, 07:03:43 AM
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18-21 August works for me.  New York City in August: ah, I can smell it now....


Is it really that bad?

Depends if there's another garbage strike.
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April 21, 2011, 12:22:18 PM
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@brucewagner, did you get the pm or email I sent you? Havn't heard back.

I want to present on the Bitcoin stock market(coming soon) and about companies organised entirely around bitcoin.

I'll be flying in from China, so I'll need somewhere to stay, is there any chance of camping it out on the office floor?

If not, anyone here want some bitcoin for providing me with a sofa in the NewYork area?

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April 25, 2011, 03:51:39 AM
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August 18-21 is going to be really difficult for me. We'll see what happens.

Curious: Is anyone interested in selling or buying wares for bitcoin at this event? This factors into my own nefarious scheme useful idea.

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April 27, 2011, 03:36:58 PM
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the end of june sounded really nice. i was planing to come from europe. i think we should get this started sooner than august. why wait? this is a good idea and there is enough out there to talk about.
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April 27, 2011, 05:15:04 PM
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I'd probably come if it is in June, very early July or August. In late July I am taking the bar.
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May 11, 2011, 05:56:09 PM
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We have announced that it WILL be August 18-21, here in NYC, at the OnlyOneTV Studios.

Apologies to anyone who can't make those dates.    More than likely, we WILL be doing it on a regular basis.

Check later today, at http://BitcoinConference.com for more details, to register, etc.
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May 11, 2011, 06:06:51 PM
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Really?   Ok.

What about June 30 - July 3....?

Does anyone have any major conflicts with those dates?


June 30 to July 3 would work for me.
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We have announced that it WILL be August 18-21, here in NYC, at the OnlyOneTV Studios.

Apologies to anyone who can't make those dates.    More than likely, we WILL be doing it on a regular basis.

Check later today, at http://BitcoinConference.com for more details, to register, etc.


oh well won't work for me but one year plan on the West Coast!  San Fran or LA?
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May 11, 2011, 06:33:36 PM
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You're planning to livestream presentations, right?

Too bad it's not until Oct. I'll be in NYC then for http://contactcon.com

Perhaps there will be a meetup around that time (hint, hint ;-)
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You're planning to livestream presentations, right?

Too bad it's not until Oct. I'll be in NYC then for http://contactcon.com

Perhaps there will be a meetup around that time (hint, hint ;-)

ContactCon looks great.  So glad to see that Douglas Rushkoff will be speaking there.
We'll definitely want to have a Bitcoin Meetup at this event, I am hoping I can go to this.
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Sorry won't be coming, can't afford it at the moment.

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oh well won't work for me but one year plan on the West Coast!  San Fran or LA?
next year, it will be Bitopia Island.
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Sorry won't be coming, can't afford it at the moment.

@Nefario: Don't you think it's too early to say "can't afford it"?
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Sorry won't be coming, can't afford it at the moment.

@Nefario: Don't you think it's too early to say "can't afford it"?

Not really, I'm in China, a return ticket would cost 3 months of my pay. I did have enough money but had to lend it to a family member who's gotten sick, medical bills. So short of someone else funding the ticket it's not going to happen.

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Just put it in my calendar - I'll Amtrak down from Vermont. Is there going to be a couch board so out-of-towners can crash with willing city folk?
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So sorry to hear about your family member, etc.

We will be streaming live via uStream, etc...   And I have a feeling that everyone with a laptop will be walking around with someone on Skype web cam touring too.

Perhaps, anyone who cannot make it in person could be matched up to someone with a laptop+cam+skype for a "virtual tour" attendance...  Smiley

Of course, if you can make it in person....  That experience will be 10000 times better.

I'll see what I can do for creating both:

---  a couch matchup board
---  a skype matchup board
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June 11, 2011, 05:47:39 PM
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Hi Bruce,
I could not get the final date for the Conference, its nowhere on your site, http://bitcoinme.com/
please can you write the final date and location,
many thanks,
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Hello, Everybody.   The site has been updated now.... http://bitcoinconference.com

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What else did I forget!?

What about August 18th through August 21...?


MAAAAN. I'll be back in AZ by then.

Otherwise, yours truly, the one who figured out how to do loans on #bitcoin-otc would love to attend.

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Bitcoin Conference 2011 NYC

EDIT:  We have announced that it WILL be August 18-21, here in NYC, at the OnlyOneTV Studios.


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We're happy to host the event at our new OnlyOneTV Studios here on 5th Avenue in Manhattan, New York City.   We have the entire 5th floor, lots of room, lots of internet, etc.  ....and restaurants deliver free.  :-)

I'm envisioning presentations.... even "booths" or tables...  and hackathons with specific objectives.   We can even go into the wee hours if we want to.

What could be more fun?

( We just registered http://bitcoinconference.com )

Reply with a cc to me via email to be certain I get it:  bruce@onlyonetv.com


Making plans to be here. I haven't seen my dad in a few years, he lives in Manhattan, so perfect opportunity ! Cheesy What is your aim here exactly? Do you want publicity? Or do you want this to be a closed meeting? I have advanced experience in social marketing, and we can make this event epic if we try hard enough..

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June 12, 2011, 12:14:08 PM
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I bet its going to be a huge turnout. I will be there for sure!

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Yes, the final date was set.

Check out:  BitcoinConference.com
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This is a great idea, I'm hoping to attend... will know better closer to the date.

Is there an agenda yet?
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Interesting. I'll try to get there too.

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Yes, the final date was set.

Check out:  BitcoinConference.com


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June 15, 2011, 05:09:14 AM
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it's weird to me that it sounds more like a sales pitch for a motivational speaker conference than an open source con/camp.

eh, whatever, maybe just personal tastes. Hope that lots of productive meetups and codesprints occur!
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it's weird to me that it sounds more like a sales pitch for a motivational speaker conference than an open source con/camp.

eh, whatever, maybe just personal tastes. Hope that lots of productive meetups and codesprints occur!

No, it's not weird at all. No offense to Mr. Wagner, I'm sure he really believes in the Bitcoin idea, but after I watched some of his videos on YouTube I got a similar impression. It made me question that I had an interest in the same thing this guy seemed to be trying to sell so hard. He comes off like a confidence man. The vibe I get from him is that if he were trying to convince me to enter into business with him or conduct a transaction with him, I would not trust him and would spend the entire conversation trying to figure out how he was trying to con me.

I don't mean to insult him and I have nothing personal against him, and I'm not insinuating that he is doing anything underhanded. I'm just saying that public perception is important and at the subconscious levels, with things like body language, and the way he talks, he does not instill confidence. You get the sense that he's trying to gas you up and that in turn makes you suspicious. It could be that he's just really excited about the idea and simply lacks charisma. I'm not going to pretend to know why he gives the impression that he does. Lemonginger and I both separately came to the same conclusion so I'm sure that there are others who get the same impression from Bruce Wagner.

As the so called face of Bitcoin, the PR man for Bitcoin, he is not going to be convincing any outsiders to join up.
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BitCon is a poor naming choince, given the accusations of Bitcoin being a ponzi scheme. And the website doesn't give much info. How much will it coat to attend?n how many exhibitors?  Have hotel discounts been negotiated?  There's a lot of work to a conference, and I'm not seeing the basics listed on the site...
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BitCon is a poor naming choince, given the accusations of Bitcoin being a ponzi scheme. And the website doesn't give much info. How much will it coat to attend?n how many exhibitors?  Have hotel discounts been negotiated?  There's a lot of work to a conference, and I'm not seeing the basics listed on the site...

lol. "There's a lot of work to a conference". buddy, there can be as much or as little work to a conference as the person taking the time to make the conference want to do. Just b/c this is not going to be the kind of conference run out of a big fancy vegas hotel with discounts and entry fees and whatever else is no reason to not hold a conference. it is a meeting of minds, you sure do have a depressing, pessimistic attitude and that is probably why you just sit at home on your computer and nag and bitch about people who live their lives in a way that makes things happen. i hope this answers your question.

I realize I've been a little presumptuous. Maybe you are taking the initiative to create a conference somewhere the likes of which you have described?
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you sure do have a depressing, pessimistic attitude and that is probably why you just sit at home on your computer and nag and bitch about people who live their lives in a way that makes things happen. i hope this answers your question.

Wow.  I don't even know what to say to that. I'd be inclined to return the name calling volley, but that wouldn't be productive.

I'm just saying that there's a difference between a meetup and a conference or expo. There's also a difference between constructive criticism and name calling. Apparently, not everyone knows the difference.


I may or may not be planning something, but I'm relatively certain now that this is not the place to announce such a thing.
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you sure do have a depressing, pessimistic attitude and that is probably why you just sit at home on your computer and nag and bitch about people who live their lives in a way that makes things happen. i hope this answers your question.

Wow.  I don't even know what to say to that. I'd be inclined to return the name calling volley, but that wouldn't be productive.

I'm just saying that there's a difference between a meetup and a conference or expo. There's also a difference between constructive criticism and name calling. Apparently, not everyone knows the difference.


I may or may not be planning something, but I'm relatively certain now that this is not the place to announce such a thing.

there is a difference between name calling and observations. are you under the impression that your post  was not portraying an attitude which was depressing or pessimistic or nagging? http://dictionary.reference.com/ here is a link incase you are not a native english speaker.

btw, 'bitch' in that sentence was used as verb, not a noun. for the verb definition of it you will need to use an urban dictionary probably. I agree that name calling is petty, however to me, words that are used to describe an action that are accompanied with proof(my quoting your post) is not petty name calling. it would be like if there was proof of someone murdering someone else, calling that individual a murderer is not mere 'name calling' but a description of something that has occured. if you wish not to have your actions/yourself labeled a certain way, then the easy solution is not to act/be a certain way.

if, as you claim your intentions really were to point out that this upcoming event did not fall into your definition of a conference but rather a 'meet-up', then there were more tactful ways of doing so. here is one such example for future reference:

"In what ways will this event be differing from the meet-ups that regularly occur in the same venue?"

see, it is clear, concise, not attacking, and it requests the information that you claim to be after. I hope my post has been easy to understand and will help you reevaluate how you approach others whom you share a planet with. I do admit that my reason for typing this out for you is selfish, as I prefer to live in a world where dialogue centers around productivity, and uplifting dialogue.

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Can you make a video tour of the conference? That would be great!
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Hah, I work two blocks away from the location - will be there.
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July 31, 2011, 01:17:23 AM
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I'd love to go.  Unfortunately this year I may not be able to. But I will try.

(An FX Riot booth sounds just too cool)
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July 31, 2011, 06:21:42 AM
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Actually,  there will be international television news camera crews there, from what they tell me....   not to mention that it's hosted by The Bitcoin Show and OnlyOneTV.... so I have a feeling there will be a LOT of video being shot there.... live streaming and otherwise.   Smiley

The http://bitcoinconference.com page has been updated, and Registration is now open.   The Agenda is there as well.

More speakers will be inserted as they confirm.

No.  Definitely not like any Meetup ever....  People are flying in from China, London, Australia, Central and South America, Europe, you name it.   Rumor has it that one group may even be chartering a private jet to fly in.

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Bruce you have already sold 5 vendor tables.  How many more can you fit?  these are selling out fast.

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Looks like the prices doubled in the last day or 2?  Was 1 bitcoin admission now 2? 10 bitcoins for a table instead of 5?
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July 31, 2011, 12:17:49 PM
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Well, we were thinking seriously of going, but I guess we waited too long.  The price for a vendor table jumped from 5 to 10 and is now at 75.  I guess that means there's a lot of demand.

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What could be more fun?
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Well, we were thinking seriously of going, but I guess we waited too long.  The price for a vendor table jumped from 5 to 10 and is now at 75.  I guess that means there's a lot of demand.
75 BTC? Isn't that a little bit too much, Bruce?
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so seriously this is 100% legit? dates are for sure? this isn't going to be lame, cheesy and thrown together at the last moment will it? were about to buy plane tickets and just hoping this isn't going to be 8 guys standing around staring at each other. I'm bringing a multimillion dollar investor and possibly someone who runs a London hedge firm. are there going to be decent speakers talking about relevant topics?
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anyone care to comment on my last please?
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I think it will be a little cheesy and it seems it has been thrown together at the last minute.  That said, I've heard from enough people that are going to think it's not just going to be a dozen dudes.  Well planned or not, Bruce is still hosting the first large international meetup.  This is not being run by people who seem to have a lot of experience running conferences, but people are rallying around it just the same.  I'm going with low expectations for the planned events and high expectations for the conversations and networking.

On a related note, I'm sad to announce I will not be selling SquareWear shirts at the conference as I previously announced.  I don't think I'd be able to sell anywhere near the number of shirts necessary to cover the 75 bitcoin vendor table fee.

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I think it will be a little cheesy and it seems it has been thrown together at the last minute.  That said, I've heard from enough people that are going to think it's not just going to be a dozen dudes.  Well planned or not, Bruce is still hosting the first large international meetup.  This is not being run by people who seem to have a lot of experience running conferences, but people are rallying around it just the same.  I'm going with low expectations for the planned events and high expectations for the conversations and networking.

On a related note, I'm sad to announce I will not be selling SquareWear shirts at the conference as I previously announced.  I don't think I'd be able to sell anywhere near the number of shirts necessary to cover the 75 bitcoin vendor table fee.

75 bitcoins can't be real, I think its a mistype.
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thanks for the info Gabriel. see you there I guess. just hope I don't look like an asshole bringing some very important investors to this thing. Im hoping for the best! bring some t's regardless. I'll ninja buy some. lol
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August 01, 2011, 04:42:10 AM
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bruce can you give an update on how many vendors have signed?
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On a related note, I'm sad to announce I will not be selling SquareWear shirts at the conference as I previously announced.  I don't think I'd be able to sell anywhere near the number of shirts necessary to cover the 75 bitcoin vendor table fee.

Ditto if I came.  I would estimate breaking even at 25 BTC table cost if there were 500 attendees and no competition.  Of course no one can tell how much one could sell, but factoring in what I would be able to bring is a start.  10 btc  would allow me some profit.


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Well, we were thinking seriously of going, but I guess we waited too long.  The price for a vendor table jumped from 5 to 10 and is now at 75.  I guess that means there's a lot of demand.

We're in the same boat, 75 BTC is going to price a lot of small, but possibly important startups out of the game.  I was about to sign up and went to the site only to see the 75 BTC price...  As a small business owner, I just can't justify nearly $1,000.00 in addition to the travel cost for an unproven event.

  I suppose this all depends on the exchange rate at the time you sign up, but given the price change since the conference was announced I would expect the price in BTC to be going down...

  The date is fast approaching, but if there were to be a steep reduction in the cost in the next few days, we would still entertain the idea of attending.
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thanks for the info Gabriel. see you there I guess. just hope I don't look like an asshole bringing some very important investors to this thing. Im hoping for the best! bring some t's regardless. I'll ninja buy some. lol

Explain it to them this way: if it was already a large, formal conference, it would already be too late to invest.  Think of it like being invited to the garage where Google started their operations.  That would have been the greatest time to invest in Google, even it would have just looked like a couple of teenagers playing around on a computer.

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thanks for the info Gabriel. see you there I guess. just hope I don't look like an asshole bringing some very important investors to this thing. Im hoping for the best! bring some t's regardless. I'll ninja buy some. lol

Explain it to them this way: if it was already a large, formal conference, it would already be too late to invest.  Think of it like being invited to the garage where Google started their operations.  That would have been the greatest time to invest in Google, even it would have just looked like a couple of teenagers playing around on a computer.


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+1 to you.

Why not just pay the 2 bitcoins and attend?  The "vendor table" expo is only for 2 hours of the 2 days anyway.

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+1 to you.

Why not just pay the 2 bitcoins and attend?  The "vendor table" expo is only for 2 hours of the 2 days anyway.


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thanks for the info Gabriel. see you there I guess. just hope I don't look like an asshole bringing some very important investors to this thing. Im hoping for the best! bring some t's regardless. I'll ninja buy some. lol

Explain it to them this way: if it was already a large, formal conference, it would already be too late to invest.  Think of it like being invited to the garage where Google started their operations.  That would have been the greatest time to invest in Google, even it would have just looked like a couple of teenagers playing around on a computer.

If you replace teenagers with PHD students and garage with Stanford computer lab, then yeah you are exactly right.

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It was Apple (Computer) that started in a garage, not Google. Smiley

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thanks for the info Gabriel. see you there I guess. just hope I don't look like an asshole bringing some very important investors to this thing. Im hoping for the best! bring some t's regardless. I'll ninja buy some. lol

Explain it to them this way: if it was already a large, formal conference, it would already be too late to invest.  Think of it like being invited to the garage where Google started their operations.  That would have been the greatest time to invest in Google, even it would have just looked like a couple of teenagers playing around on a computer.

If you replace teenagers with PHD students and garage with Stanford computer lab, then yeah you are exactly right.

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I would agree with the comments here.

We have zero experience organizing a large formal conference.   If you're expecting the Grand Ballroom, and a dozen large conference rooms for breakout sessions, at the Marriott Marque.....you are going to be disappointed.

If impressing your investor suits with a lavish hotel conference is what you expect,  please do not even come to New York.

This is the WORLD'S FIRST International Conference.  And yes, it will look much more like a garage than a Grand Ballroom.    

However, as has been pointed out here....  The tremendous value -- the priceless value -- is the networking and the face-time you will have with all the key movers and shakers in the Bitcoin World globally.

Mind you, admission is currently 2 Bitcoin.  At the current price of $12.76... that's about $25.52

In case you were not aware, you cannot buy a cheeseburger and coke for two people, plus tax and tip...... for $25.52 in Manhattan.  

So don't come expecting a $900 conference, professionally organized and sponsored by the unlimited budgets of global corporations.    This conference is spondered ONLY by Bruce and Ed of OnlyOneTV....  

If you are going to complain about the professionalism.... or the lack of austerity... please don't come.   Instead, organize your own bitcoin conference please.

So you know, we originally had planned to actually use  hotel conference facilities out in Queens, near LaGuardia.    However, almost 100% of the feedback we received said, "No. Please! We want to be in Manhattan.  We want to see and be near OnlyOneTV, Meze Grill, Hudson Eatery, MetroPCS (all in Manhattan), and  O-Crepes (Brooklyn)...

We totally understood that sentiment.  However, after a couple teams of people searched for spaces in Manhattan....  We found that:

Most hotels in Manhattan either have no conference facilities,  or meeting space for 16 people maximum.

We found one non-hotel venue nearby, but they wanted $3550 per day... plus Meze Grill catering (any outside catering) is not permitted.

Finally we determined that, in spite of the fact that it will be "cozy, Manhattan style"....  The best solution would be to actually use our OnlyOneTV Studios themselves... in effect, opening our home to you.  

We have the entire 5th floor of a 5th Ave office building.   Of course, several of the rooms will have to be locked off...  However, we will convert the largest room, Studio 1, into a space for the vendor tables displayed...  and reuse (again, Manhattan style) that same space filling it with folding chairs for the keynote speakers.

We have two decent sized conference rooms which we will clear out for breakouts.   There are also several large dining rooms at adjacent locations next door and across the street, which we can also use for breakout sessions and as overflow for private conversations, etc.

The main value will be the people you will get to meet face-to-face, and the conversations that will be "history in the making".....    And we will all be able to say that "We were there."

So, again, if you expect lavish, please don't come.  

Also, as to the cost of the Vendor Tables, I panicked when people began buying two at a time...  and we seemed to be selling 1 vendor table for every 2 attendees.  

I don't know exactly how many tables we can accommodate, and the exact size.  Ed is working on renting or buying the actual tables.  Then we can more accurately gauge how many we can sell.  

So far, I'm pretty sure no one has paid 75 btc for a table yet.  So I effectively just stopped selling tables temporarily.... until I know for sure how many I can fairly sell (have space for).  

Once Ed tells me how many will fit, I will reduce the price for tables again.. until we reach that maximum.    I will post here in this thread if and when the price for tables is reduced again.

Finally,  as for keynote speakers...

Of course, our buddy, Gavin Andresen will be giving a speech on the future direction of bitcoin development.  

But I need to act fast in nailing down commitments for a few others speakers.

Please help me out by quickly responding in this thread with YOUR top three choices for the very BEST people we could possibly have as keynote speakers. I'll get on the phone and book them immediately.   I'll also update the online PDF of the schedule then too.

Please reprint the latest version of the official schedule (PDF) again at the last minute, before you travel, just in case there are any majors changes or updates.


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Does the recent mybitcoin service disruption have a significant impact on the operation or execution of this conference?

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This all sounds reasonable and I can't wait for it to happen. Thanks for doing it!
I hope all speeches and presentations will be put on youtube for the rest of us who live too far away.
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Thank you for the update bruce, very relevant information. I'm bringing a couple people and I wasn't worried about how much it looks as much as I was worried about what kind of speakers you were going to have. Thanks again for the update.
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I can't promise the exact size of the tables, but assume they will likely be either 30" x 30" card tables.... Or half of a 5' x 2.5' banquet table... giving a table surface size of 2.5' x 2.5'.... which we are calling "one vendor table".  The entire 5' x 2.5' table being "two vendor tables".

I believe we will have room for approximately 20 "vendor tables" (as described above).

I'm going to reduce the price of vendor tables to 10 Bitcoin again within the next few hours.  I'll have to keep a very close eye on how many sell, and how fast.

The MyBitcoin mess wiped us out, but we're hoping the fees from this event cover it's own costs.   So, no.  It should have no effect on the event.

Yes, of course, it will all be taped for The Bitcoin Show, as well as many other media venues.
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I can't promise the exact size of the tables, but assume they will likely be either 30" x 30" card tables.... Or half of a 5' x 2.5' banquet table... giving a table surface size of 2.5' x 2.5'.... which we are calling "one vendor table".  The entire 5' x 2.5' table being "two vendor tables".

I believe we will have room for approximately 20 "vendor tables" (as described above).

I'm going to reduce the price of vendor tables to 10 Bitcoin again within the next few hours.  I'll have to keep a very close eye on how many sell, and how fast.

The MyBitcoin mess wiped us out, but we're hoping the fees from this even cover it's own costs.   So, no.  It should have no effect on the event.

Yes, of course, it will all be taped for The Bitcoin Show, as well as many other media venues.


Hey bruce did Meze Grill have all their bitcoins in Mybitcoin? If so are they still bitcoin fans?
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Yes, Meze Grill had all their Bitcoin in MyBitcoin. 

Yes, they are still Bitcoin evangelists.
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For those of you attending the conference and in need of some USD the following thread might interest you:
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I'm glad to announce that I will be there!

I'm looking forward to brainstorming new Bitcoin ideas with all of you!


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I'm glad to announce that I will be there!

I'm looking forward to brainstorming new Bitcoin ideas with all of you!


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BTW, i haven't seen Synaptic since i tried unsuccessfully to bet him 100 BTC a few weeks ago.  so you're not the first to ask these chumps to put their money where their mouth is. Wink
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shucks, i would love to meet The Legend.

BTW, i haven't seen Synaptic since i tried unsuccessfully to bet him 100 BTC a few weeks ago.  so you're not the first to ask these chumps to put their money where their mouth is. Wink

I'm sure our paths will cross one day soon.   I am looking forward to saying hello in person at that time.

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I'm glad to announce that I will be there!

I'm looking forward to brainstorming new Bitcoin ideas with all of you!


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are there any plans to organize such a conference in Europe ?

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are there any plans to organize such a conference in Europe ?

London plix.

Amsterdam would be more fun.

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I though about attending to the NYC conference, but i just cannot afford it.
I'd gladly attend to any event a bit closer tho. London / Amsterdam is both fine.

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are there any plans to organize such a conference in Europe ?

London plix.

Amsterdam would be more fun.


London might be more appropriate though...strike that. I guess Amsterdam will do just fine Wink

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Why did the venue change, and why is there no update here or in the agenda (and why was this after I booked a hotel)?

Why is there no mention of the conference in bitcoin.org?

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Why is there no mention of the conference in bitcoin.org?

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Bruce doesn't run bitcoin.org, and the conference although is ABOUT bitcoin it's not part of the bitcoin project so bitcoin.org can't really start advertising for anyones bitcoin related parties. Otherwise where do they stop?

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so i hope this conference will come with a rally built-in  Cool

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anyones bitcoin related parties.
Is that all this is? If this really is going to be a major event, Bruce should be able to get whoever does run bitcoin.org (Sirius?) to acknowledge it.

Bruce, some confirmation that everything you promised is indeed happening, and data on the number of participants, is in order.

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anyones bitcoin related parties.
Is that all this is? If this really is going to be a major event, Bruce should be able to get whoever does run bitcoin.org (Sirius?) to acknowledge it.

Bruce, some confirmation that everything you promised is indeed happening, and data on the number of participants, is in order.

Whoa there, sorry you seem to have missunderstood me. I was paraphrasing, possibly being more dramatic than is really needed. I am at no point saying this is going to be small, it could be huge. It could be like... the meeting of the waters, I was just saying that bitcoin.org is neutral or at least the people who are running bitcoin.org are not involved in this conference.

And that being neutral means that they can't favor one over the other, put a link for one conference then they'll have everyone in the bitcoin world looking for what is essentially free advertising.

Also, although I'm a mod I don't speak for the admins and the ultimate owner/runner of bitcoin.org (or anyone else for that matter).

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anyones bitcoin related parties.
Is that all this is? If this really is going to be a major event, Bruce should be able to get whoever does run bitcoin.org (Sirius?) to acknowledge it.

Bruce, some confirmation that everything you promised is indeed happening, and data on the number of participants, is in order.

Whoa there, sorry you seem to have missunderstood me. I was paraphrasing, possibly being more dramatic than is really needed. I am at no point saying this is going to be small, it could be huge. It could be like... the meeting of the waters, I was just saying that bitcoin.org is neutral or at least the people who are running bitcoin.org are not involved in this conference.

And that being neutral means that they can't favor one over the other, put a link for one conference then they'll have everyone in the bitcoin world looking for what is essentially free advertising.

Also, although I'm a mod I don't speak for the admins and the ultimate owner/runner of bitcoin.org (or anyone else for that matter).

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I got that, kind of, but I'm not buying the slippery slope argument. There's a fairly clear line between a global, annual (presumably) event, and other stuff.

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I'm excited to see how this will turn out. Sounds like a LAN party to me. But hopefully something useful comes out of this. Not sure what bringing folks who already chat on the forum together will achieve idea-wise, but perhaps some friendships will be made.

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If I were going to come for only one day, which day would be the best?



I want to meet bruce and the tradehill gang. Hope magicaltux can make it out, too.

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Funny how the first ever bitcoin conference thats been hyped to shit doesnt even sell tickets by bitcoin amount. Instead equivalent to the amount in USD.
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Funny how the first ever bitcoin conference thats been hyped to shit doesnt even sell tickets by bitcoin amount. Instead equivalent to the amount in USD.

Yeah thats wierd cause on the show when bruce was making the buttons he said we don't think in dollars we think in bitcoins. lol.  Guess thats before the price tanked a bit.
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So bitcoin is basically just a trading platform to maximize your gains in USD now, eh? That whole new currency unhinged from the dollar went out the window quick
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Funny how the first ever bitcoin conference thats been hyped to shit doesnt even sell tickets by bitcoin amount. Instead equivalent to the amount in USD.

well, he did mention the fees were to cover the expenses of the conference, and the expenses are likely fixed in USD, therefore the need to price in USD to maintain a 1:1 costs:fee ratio.

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I had a chance to see OnlyOneTV first hand, and all I can say is I was impressed through and through.  I will definitely be attending the Bitcoin Conference. Smiley
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Funny how the first ever bitcoin conference thats been hyped to shit doesnt even sell tickets by bitcoin amount. Instead equivalent to the amount in USD.

well, he did mention the fees were to cover the expenses of the conference, and the expenses are likely fixed in USD, therefore the need to price in USD to maintain a 1:1 costs:fee ratio.

Wait, are you trying to say that he could not actually USE bitcoins to buy anything useful for the conference and therefor has to immediately convert them to USD before he can actually DO something?

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So bitcoin is basically just a trading platform to maximize your gains in USD now, eh? That whole new currency unhinged from the dollar went out the window quick

Bruce is a charlatan and snake oil salesman, plain and simple.

What's worse is that I used to like the guy, even though he's flighty as hell and absent minded, he sold himself as the lovable Mr. BitCoin guy. Then with his network being the disaster that it is (does he ever start on time or on the day he promised?) and his throwing BitCoin under the bus in his actions related to this conference, I can't see how anyone can trust a thing this man says.

He might as well come out and say, "Do as I say, not as I do - look over here at the shiny pony! pay no attention to me not using BitCoins to put my money where my mouth is".
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Funny how the first ever bitcoin conference thats been hyped to shit doesnt even sell tickets by bitcoin amount. Instead equivalent to the amount in USD.

well, he did mention the fees were to cover the expenses of the conference, and the expenses are likely fixed in USD, therefore the need to price in USD to maintain a 1:1 costs:fee ratio.

That is a very bad sign, if the organizer of the supposed global BitCon won't deal in BitCoins. We've had people make it all the way across the country only on BitCoins and they made it just fine! Organizing a conference around it should at the very least speak to the strength of BitCoin, not the supposed obstacles the promoter is having to endure.

I won't accept any other explanation than Bruce is just a speculator and hypes the BitCoin masses while not having the passion to back it up when words meet action.
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Funny how the first ever bitcoin conference thats been hyped to shit doesnt even sell tickets by bitcoin amount. Instead equivalent to the amount in USD.

well, he did mention the fees were to cover the expenses of the conference, and the expenses are likely fixed in USD, therefore the need to price in USD to maintain a 1:1 costs:fee ratio.

That is a very bad sign, if the organizer of the supposed global BitCon won't deal in BitCoins. We've had people make it all the way across the country only on BitCoins and they made it just fine! Organizing a conference around it should at the very least speak to the strength of BitCoin, not the supposed obstacles the promoter is having to endure.

I won't accept any other explanation than Bruce is just a speculator and hypes the BitCoin masses while not having the passion to back it up when words meet action.

Wow.  Where is all of this anger coming from?  The guy is putting on a conference, and has done a ton to help bitcoin.  He puts in more 'actions' every day then you have put in so far.  His show is a service to the bitcoin community.

A seller has the right to price items or services ANY WAY THEY WANT.  With the price of bitcoin changing so much it is not unreasonable to price things in USD converted to bitcoin as payment. 

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Funny how the first ever bitcoin conference thats been hyped to shit doesnt even sell tickets by bitcoin amount. Instead equivalent to the amount in USD.

well, he did mention the fees were to cover the expenses of the conference, and the expenses are likely fixed in USD, therefore the need to price in USD to maintain a 1:1 costs:fee ratio.

That is a very bad sign, if the organizer of the supposed global BitCon won't deal in BitCoins. We've had people make it all the way across the country only on BitCoins and they made it just fine! Organizing a conference around it should at the very least speak to the strength of BitCoin, not the supposed obstacles the promoter is having to endure.

I won't accept any other explanation than Bruce is just a speculator and hypes the BitCoin masses while not having the passion to back it up when words meet action.

Wow.  Where is all of this anger coming from?  The guy is putting on a conference, and has done a ton to help bitcoin.  He puts in more 'actions' every day then you have put in so far.  His show is a service to the bitcoin community.

A seller has the right to price items or services ANY WAY THEY WANT.  With the price of bitcoin changing so much it is not unreasonable to price things in USD converted to bitcoin as payment. 

Respectfully, you have no idea what I do for BitCoin, so speculation that someone may have done more than I have is just that - speculation. I'm totally fine with you taking that stance though, as the free market will prove the truth in the end.

I know Bruce has his fans and that's fine too, I used to be one of them as well. He has indeed helped spread the word about BitCoin, but I differ in my interpretation of exactly how much this has helped. A lot of very misleading information has been put out there and endorsements for products/services were given without any due diligence. He's promised a lot but hasn't delivered in terms of the network and the show, which amounts to not much more than a man with a laptop giggling at himself on camera anymore. This conference is just being handled terribly and I think that his insistence that everything be handled in USD equivalents is just a sign of his true intentions in the BitCoin market - and that is speculation.  That, on the surface, is acceptable but when you run a network around BitCoins and build up BitCoins as the best thing ever, shouldn't you practice what you preach? I just find that very unprofessional.

Plus, changing the venue without a word and without any input from the community was a pretty low class thing to do as well. Yes, venues do change, but the way it was done was very misleading and unprofessional.
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Wow.  Where is all of this anger coming from?  The guy is putting on a conference, and has done a ton to help bitcoin.  He puts in more 'actions' every day then you have put in so far.  His show is a service to the bitcoin community.

A seller has the right to price items or services ANY WAY THEY WANT.  With the price of bitcoin changing so much it is not unreasonable to price things in USD converted to bitcoin as payment. 

Respectfully, you have no idea what I do for BitCoin, so speculation that someone may have done more than I have is just that - speculation. I'm totally fine with you taking that stance though, as the free market will prove the truth in the end.
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Wish I could make it, I'll be on vacation though.

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What do you do for bitcoin?

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Why did the venue change, and why is there no update here or in the agenda (and why was this after I booked a hotel)?


Ok so I am doing the math and checking the finances to see if i can go.  I checked everywhere I can think of and i don't see anything about the location changing. (as you said above)

How do you know it was changed? Did you get a email since you were registered or something?  I have not registered and now i don't want to register till I know where it is.

Can you tell me where the new location is?


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after posting this the only spot i could find that mentions the change is this website. (using google)
http://www.betabeat.com/2011/08/09/bitcoin-conference-and-world-expo-moved-to-roosevelt-hotel/

it is not listed anywhere else  (what is the new location a secret?)... wonder how many people will show up at the wrong venue and just go home when they don't see anything going on ...

like a week to go .. .kinda handy to know where i am trying to go to.

haven't seen the latest bitcoin shows maybe it was mentioned there?

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Funny how the first ever bitcoin conference thats been hyped to shit doesnt even sell tickets by bitcoin amount. Instead equivalent to the amount in USD.

well, he did mention the fees were to cover the expenses of the conference, and the expenses are likely fixed in USD, therefore the need to price in USD to maintain a 1:1 costs:fee ratio.

That is a very bad sign, if the organizer of the supposed global BitCon won't deal in BitCoins. We've had people make it all the way across the country only on BitCoins and they made it just fine! Organizing a conference around it should at the very least speak to the strength of BitCoin, not the supposed obstacles the promoter is having to endure.

I won't accept any other explanation than Bruce is just a speculator and hypes the BitCoin masses while not having the passion to back it up when words meet action.

Wow.  Where is all of this anger coming from?  The guy is putting on a conference, and has done a ton to help bitcoin.  He puts in more 'actions' every day then you have put in so far.  His show is a service to the bitcoin community.

A seller has the right to price items or services ANY WAY THEY WANT.  With the price of bitcoin changing so much it is not unreasonable to price things in USD converted to bitcoin as payment. 

Respectfully, you have no idea what I do for BitCoin, so speculation that someone may have done more than I have is just that - speculation. I'm totally fine with you taking that stance though, as the free market will prove the truth in the end.

I know Bruce has his fans and that's fine too, I used to be one of them as well. He has indeed helped spread the word about BitCoin, but I differ in my interpretation of exactly how much this has helped. A lot of very misleading information has been put out there and endorsements for products/services were given without any due diligence. He's promised a lot but hasn't delivered in terms of the network and the show, which amounts to not much more than a man with a laptop giggling at himself on camera anymore. This conference is just being handled terribly and I think that his insistence that everything be handled in USD equivalents is just a sign of his true intentions in the BitCoin market - and that is speculation.  That, on the surface, is acceptable but when you run a network around BitCoins and build up BitCoins as the best thing ever, shouldn't you practice what you preach? I just find that very unprofessional.

Plus, changing the venue without a word and without any input from the community was a pretty low class thing to do as well. Yes, venues do change, but the way it was done was very misleading and unprofessional.

How in the world do you expect a person to run a conference while just accepting fees at a set bitcoin price?  They could potentially lose a lot of money doing that.  Basing the fee on bitcoins valued in USD is not speculation - it's anti-speculation.  Speculation would be setting a rigid, unchanging fee in bitcoins right at the start, in the hope that the price won't drop.

What would happen if a conference holder were to set a rigid ticket price in BTC that was just enough to cover the expenses, while Bitcoins were worth $30/each?  Suddenly, they're only worth $10 each, people are still buying tickets, and the conference holder has no way to cover the expenses except from his own pocket.  And you think this is the right way to go about things?

You could say that the conference holder should only be buying from people who sell products/services in bitcoins, so that he doesn't ever need to convert them to USD, but guess what?  Those vendors usually convert straight to USD, which means their prices will change according to the current USD/BTC rate.  Which means the conference holder would STILL be in the exact same position (of being screwed) if he set the prices according to an earlier valuation, and then the price drops.

The only way for him to hedge a potential loss if he was to set rigid prices is to set a ridiculously high price to start with, just in case the price drops.  But I'm sure people would rather pay prices that are reasonable, and based on the USD valuation of a BTC at the time of the payment, than pay 10x as much as the conference is worth.

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How do you know it was changed? Did you get a email since you were registered or something?  I have not registered and now i don't want to register till I know where it is.
It says it right there in the info page of the conference - http://bitcoinme.com/index.php/bitcon-2011/ . "Check out the NEW VENUE"

Good catch. This story says it's a venue "upgrade", but I think they're just extrapolating as Bruce has been keeping radio silence lately. I really hope this is indeed an upgrade, due perhaps to high turnout (Bruce did say something about a plan B for the best case) and not something else.

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How do you know it was changed? Did you get a email since you were registered or something?  I have not registered and now i don't want to register till I know where it is.
It says it right there in the info page of the conference - http://bitcoinme.com/index.php/bitcon-2011/ . "Check out the NEW VENUE"


Well thats odd i kept the webpage open for weeks and just kept refreshing it.  When i went to a new page off your link up popped the new venue link you mentioned ...

silly me ...  for just refreshing and not going to a new page

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I know I do not post much on here but I wanted to bring you all with an update on what's going on with the conference.

First and foremost always check http://bitcoinconference.com

In order to keep up with demand we have upgraded the venue to the Roosevelt Hotel! You may check it out here

We have capacity for 200 attendees AND 20 vendor tables! The vendor tables are going fast, don't wait until its too late.

Yes, prices are weighted against USD, its the only way we can make sure that we do not go broke hosting the event. Thank you for the response thus far! Look forward to meeting everyone.




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So pumped about going! We just booked our rooms and flights! Woop Woop!
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Also can anyone tell me which is closer/better to fly into? JFK or LaGuardia? We choose JFK but I think I can change it in time if JFK sucks or something.
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Also can anyone tell me which is closer/better to fly into? JFK or LaGuardia? We choose JFK but I think I can change it in time if JFK sucks or something.
LaGuardia is a little closer to the venue, but you should be fine either way.

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What do you do for bitcoin?

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Just because someone doesn't have many posts doesn't discount their input or the validity of their opinions.

Funny how the first ever bitcoin conference thats been hyped to shit doesnt even sell tickets by bitcoin amount. Instead equivalent to the amount in USD.

well, he did mention the fees were to cover the expenses of the conference, and the expenses are likely fixed in USD, therefore the need to price in USD to maintain a 1:1 costs:fee ratio.

That is a very bad sign, if the organizer of the supposed global BitCon won't deal in BitCoins. We've had people make it all the way across the country only on BitCoins and they made it just fine! Organizing a conference around it should at the very least speak to the strength of BitCoin, not the supposed obstacles the promoter is having to endure.

I won't accept any other explanation than Bruce is just a speculator and hypes the BitCoin masses while not having the passion to back it up when words meet action.



Respectfully, you have no idea what I do for BitCoin, so speculation that someone may have done more than I have is just that - speculation. I'm totally fine with you taking that stance though, as the free market will prove the truth in the end.

I know Bruce has his fans and that's fine too, I used to be one of them as well. He has indeed helped spread the word about BitCoin, but I differ in my interpretation of exactly how much this has helped. A lot of very misleading information has been put out there and endorsements for products/services were given without any due diligence. He's promised a lot but hasn't delivered in terms of the network and the show, which amounts to not much more than a man with a laptop giggling at himself on camera anymore. This conference is just being handled terribly and I think that his insistence that everything be handled in USD equivalents is just a sign of his true intentions in the BitCoin market - and that is speculation.  That, on the surface, is acceptable but when you run a network around BitCoins and build up BitCoins as the best thing ever, shouldn't you practice what you preach? I just find that very unprofessional.

Plus, changing the venue without a word and without any input from the community was a pretty low class thing to do as well. Yes, venues do change, but the way it was done was very misleading and unprofessional.

How in the world do you expect a person to run a conference while just accepting fees at a set bitcoin price?  They could potentially lose a lot of money doing that.  Basing the fee on bitcoins valued in USD is not speculation - it's anti-speculation.  Speculation would be setting a rigid, unchanging fee in bitcoins right at the start, in the hope that the price won't drop.

What would happen if a conference holder were to set a rigid ticket price in BTC that was just enough to cover the expenses, while Bitcoins were worth $30/each?  Suddenly, they're only worth $10 each, people are still buying tickets, and the conference holder has no way to cover the expenses except from his own pocket.  And you think this is the right way to go about things?

You could say that the conference holder should only be buying from people who sell products/services in bitcoins, so that he doesn't ever need to convert them to USD, but guess what?  Those vendors usually convert straight to USD, which means their prices will change according to the current USD/BTC rate.  Which means the conference holder would STILL be in the exact same position (of being screwed) if he set the prices according to an earlier valuation, and then the price drops.

The only way for him to hedge a potential loss if he was to set rigid prices is to set a ridiculously high price to start with, just in case the price drops.  But I'm sure people would rather pay prices that are reasonable, and based on the USD valuation of a BTC at the time of the payment, than pay 10x as much as the conference is worth.

Sheesh man, use your head!

It's almost as if BitCoin's are still unreliable. Hmm.

All that I'm saying is as big of a BitCoin promoter that Bruce is, it's surprising he's still clinging onto the USD when it comes down to it. As much as he trashes the USD (and rightfully so) and hypes BitCoin (completely beyond it's utility at this point), one would think he would be eager to prove how great the currency is. You do know the media will latch onto the fact that 99% of the conference is paid for in USD, as the BTC is too volatile and not widely accepted for it to be used? Just putting it out there.
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In order to keep up with demand we have upgraded the venue to the Roosevelt Hotel! You may check it out here

REALLY wish we could make it out.  We will be there next year for sure.

Manny, I e-mailed Bruce to discuss pricing of being an event sponsor since we aren't able to attend in person, still haven't heard back from him.  Please PM me or send me a note via the website to discuss.
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What do you do for bitcoin?

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Just because someone doesn't have many posts doesn't discount their input or the validity of their opinions.

I'm still curious to know what you think you have done *for* bitcoin as you are the one who threw it out there.

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Funny how the first ever bitcoin conference thats been hyped to shit doesnt even sell tickets by bitcoin amount. Instead equivalent to the amount in USD.

well, he did mention the fees were to cover the expenses of the conference, and the expenses are likely fixed in USD, therefore the need to price in USD to maintain a 1:1 costs:fee ratio.

That is a very bad sign, if the organizer of the supposed global BitCon won't deal in BitCoins. We've had people make it all the way across the country only on BitCoins and they made it just fine! Organizing a conference around it should at the very least speak to the strength of BitCoin, not the supposed obstacles the promoter is having to endure.

I won't accept any other explanation than Bruce is just a speculator and hypes the BitCoin masses while not having the passion to back it up when words meet action.



Respectfully, you have no idea what I do for BitCoin, so speculation that someone may have done more than I have is just that - speculation. I'm totally fine with you taking that stance though, as the free market will prove the truth in the end.

I know Bruce has his fans and that's fine too, I used to be one of them as well. He has indeed helped spread the word about BitCoin, but I differ in my interpretation of exactly how much this has helped. A lot of very misleading information has been put out there and endorsements for products/services were given without any due diligence. He's promised a lot but hasn't delivered in terms of the network and the show, which amounts to not much more than a man with a laptop giggling at himself on camera anymore. This conference is just being handled terribly and I think that his insistence that everything be handled in USD equivalents is just a sign of his true intentions in the BitCoin market - and that is speculation.  That, on the surface, is acceptable but when you run a network around BitCoins and build up BitCoins as the best thing ever, shouldn't you practice what you preach? I just find that very unprofessional.

Plus, changing the venue without a word and without any input from the community was a pretty low class thing to do as well. Yes, venues do change, but the way it was done was very misleading and unprofessional.

How in the world do you expect a person to run a conference while just accepting fees at a set bitcoin price?  They could potentially lose a lot of money doing that.  Basing the fee on bitcoins valued in USD is not speculation - it's anti-speculation.  Speculation would be setting a rigid, unchanging fee in bitcoins right at the start, in the hope that the price won't drop.

What would happen if a conference holder were to set a rigid ticket price in BTC that was just enough to cover the expenses, while Bitcoins were worth $30/each?  Suddenly, they're only worth $10 each, people are still buying tickets, and the conference holder has no way to cover the expenses except from his own pocket.  And you think this is the right way to go about things?

You could say that the conference holder should only be buying from people who sell products/services in bitcoins, so that he doesn't ever need to convert them to USD, but guess what?  Those vendors usually convert straight to USD, which means their prices will change according to the current USD/BTC rate.  Which means the conference holder would STILL be in the exact same position (of being screwed) if he set the prices according to an earlier valuation, and then the price drops.

The only way for him to hedge a potential loss if he was to set rigid prices is to set a ridiculously high price to start with, just in case the price drops.  But I'm sure people would rather pay prices that are reasonable, and based on the USD valuation of a BTC at the time of the payment, than pay 10x as much as the conference is worth.

Sheesh man, use your head!

It's almost as if BitCoin's are still unreliable. Hmm.

All that I'm saying is as big of a BitCoin promoter that Bruce is, it's surprising he's still clinging onto the USD when it comes down to it. As much as he trashes the USD (and rightfully so) and hypes BitCoin (completely beyond it's utility at this point), one would think he would be eager to prove how great the currency is. You do know the media will latch onto the fact that 99% of the conference is paid for in USD, as the BTC is too volatile and not widely accepted for it to be used? Just putting it out there.
It's not that BitCoin is unreliable, it's that it is still a currency in its infancy.  It cannot be used to value things on its own, yet.  No matter how much Bruce would like to have a set price in BTC that stays from the start of ticket sales to the end, it won't change the fact that there is still a good deal of volatility in the value of bitcoins.  Volatility = a huge amount of risk when you are talking about playing with money you are borrowing (which is essentially what is happening when you accept payments up front for expenses in the future).

You keep saying how Bruce has malicious intentions to mislead and speculate, when that simply isn't true.  Now, you seem to have backed down to a statement regarding the volatility of Bitcoins, which I think everyone here can agree with.  Just don't blame Bruce for Bitcoin's volatility.

And yes, I agree, the media probably will latch on to the fact that most things for the conference are being paid for in USD.  So?  Is there anything that could be done about that?  Not really...
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August 11, 2011, 08:54:51 PM
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Please, people. This person is just a troll from over there: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3413928&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

I find it quite funny and sympathize with some of their views. Do you all have Asperger or why can’t you understand humor? I’ll highlight some clues.

Respectfully, you have no idea what I do for BitCoin, so speculation that someone may have done more than I have is just that - speculation. I'm totally fine with you taking that stance though, as the free market will prove the truth in the end.

I know Bruce has his fans and that's fine too, I used to be one of them as well. He has indeed helped spread the word about BitCoin, but I differ in my interpretation of exactly how much this has helped. A lot of very misleading information has been put out there and endorsements for products/services were given without any due diligence. He's promised a lot but hasn't delivered in terms of the network and the show, which amounts to not much more than a man with a laptop giggling at himself on camera anymore. This conference is just being handled terribly and I think that his insistence that everything be handled in USD equivalents is just a sign of his true intentions in the BitCoin market - and that is speculation.  That, on the surface, is acceptable but when you run a network around BitCoins and build up BitCoins as the best thing ever, shouldn't you practice what you preach? I just find that very unprofessional.

Plus, changing the venue without a word and without any input from the community was a pretty low class thing to do as well. Yes, venues do change, but the way it was done was very misleading and unprofessional.

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It's not that BitCoin is unreliable, it's that it is still a currency in its infancy.  It cannot be used to value things on its own, yet.  No matter how much Bruce would like to have a set price in BTC that stays from the start of ticket sales to the end, it won't change the fact that there is still a good deal of volatility in the value of bitcoins.  Volatility = a huge amount of risk when you are talking about playing with money you are borrowing (which is essentially what is happening when you accept payments up front for expenses in the future).
Risk can be kept at a low level while denominating price in BTC with some combination of selling bitcoins in advance, taking loans and buying options. These markets aren't very mature which is a problem, but Bruce could have found a creative solution if he wanted. I think denominating the price in USD is a strong negative signal and he should have spent the effort to avoid it. Even if it means making the price a bit higher - for many people the registration is about 1% of the cost of attendance so this pales in comparison to the signal.

Another problem is the bait-and-switch of listing the price in BTC, but then the order form is based on USD. Later he changed the listing to USD.

I again implore Bruce to update the agenda and the list of high-profile attendees.

PS. The reason I'm saying all this is that I really want to attend the "Bitcoin Conference & Worldwide Expo 2011 NYC", and went to some length to do so. But I don't want it to end up something else (a "meetup" or "LAN party" as some naysayers put it) due to poor organization and foresight, and this includes lack of attendance due to perception of said organization and foresight. Manny's comment that demand is strong is encouraging, but we need more.

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^^^^ Completely agree with Meni. Meni put it together in a way that was a lot less confrontational than mine, so kudos for that.


Please, people. This person is just a troll from over there: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3413928&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

I find it quite funny and sympathize with some of their views. Do you all have Asperger or why can’t you understand humor? I’ll highlight some clues.

Respectfully, you have no idea what I do for BitCoin, so speculation that someone may have done more than I have is just that - speculation. I'm totally fine with you taking that stance though, as the free market will prove the truth in the end.

I know Bruce has his fans and that's fine too, I used to be one of them as well. He has indeed helped spread the word about BitCoin, but I differ in my interpretation of exactly how much this has helped. A lot of very misleading information has been put out there and endorsements for products/services were given without any due diligence. He's promised a lot but hasn't delivered in terms of the network and the show, which amounts to not much more than a man with a laptop giggling at himself on camera anymore. This conference is just being handled terribly and I think that his insistence that everything be handled in USD equivalents is just a sign of his true intentions in the BitCoin market - and that is speculation.  That, on the surface, is acceptable but when you run a network around BitCoins and build up BitCoins as the best thing ever, shouldn't you practice what you preach? I just find that very unprofessional.

Plus, changing the venue without a word and without any input from the community was a pretty low class thing to do as well. Yes, venues do change, but the way it was done was very misleading and unprofessional.



Well detective, I'm glad you've spent time perusing the thread "over there" looking for clues. What difference does it make where I came from? And your supposed evidence citing "the free market" is actually my belief, rather than some less than subtle trolling.

As for the "very misleading" evidence, guilty as charged, but not because of that thread.
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Can we get this thread back on topic?  I'm trying to get information regarding an event, not looking to read what should have been a private exchange or a new thread somewhere else.

Frankly I find the direction this topic has been taken to be very disrespectful not only to those who have been posting the off-topic messages, but to all of it's participants, readers, and the OP.

Mods, any way you can step in here?
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Can we get this thread back on topic?  I'm trying to get information regarding an event, not looking to read what should have been a private exchange or a new thread somewhere else.

Frankly I find the direction this topic has been taken to be very disrespectful not only to those who have been posting the off-topic messages, but to all of it's participants, readers, and the OP.

Mods, any way you can step in here?

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Also can anyone tell me which is closer/better to fly into? JFK or LaGuardia? We choose JFK but I think I can change it in time if JFK sucks or something.
LaGuardia is a little closer to the venue, but you should be fine either way.

JFK.  It also allows you access to Airtrain to connect to the subway system/Jamaica station if you want to do other things in NY besides the conference.

But, either are good.
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It's not that BitCoin is unreliable, it's that it is still a currency in its infancy.  It cannot be used to value things on its own, yet.  No matter how much Bruce would like to have a set price in BTC that stays from the start of ticket sales to the end, it won't change the fact that there is still a good deal of volatility in the value of bitcoins.  Volatility = a huge amount of risk when you are talking about playing with money you are borrowing (which is essentially what is happening when you accept payments up front for expenses in the future).
Risk can be kept at a low level while denominating price in BTC with some combination of selling bitcoins in advance, taking loans and buying options. These markets aren't very mature which is a problem, but Bruce could have found a creative solution if he wanted. I think denominating the price in USD is a strong negative signal and he should have spent the effort to avoid it. Even if it means making the price a bit higher - for many people the registration is about 1% of the cost of attendance so this pales in comparison to the signal.

Another problem is the bait-and-switch of listing the price in BTC, but then the order form is based on USD. Later he changed the listing to USD.

I again implore Bruce to update the agenda and the list of high-profile attendees.

PS. The reason I'm saying all this is that I really want to attend the "Bitcoin Conference & Worldwide Expo 2011 NYC", and went to some length to do so. But I don't want it to end up something else (a "meetup" or "LAN party" as some naysayers put it) due to poor organization and foresight, and this includes lack of attendance due to perception of said organization and foresight. Manny's comment that demand is strong is encouraging, but we need more.
That would have been practical if demand was a certainty.  But with a first-time conference like this, it would be very difficult to know how many people would be attending, thus, you couldn't anticipate the right number of coins to borrow and sell.
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As SgtSpike has said, this is the first large scale Bitcoin Conference attempted and a lot of things are uncertain. What if Bruce posted a list of attendees and some of them experienced the same problems Nefario did? What if all prices were in BTC and the value skyrockets in a week? Then everyone would be upset due to the fact that Bruce and his associates made money off of it.

I wish I could attend but I won't be able to. Bruce has been in contact with me and has even provided some numbers, but has also asked me not to share them, which only makes sense since they could change dramatically up or down over the next few days.

I believe I can safely say that the more I learn about it, the more envious I am of those who are going.

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Can we get this thread back on topic?  I'm trying to get information regarding an event, not looking to read what should have been a private exchange or a new thread somewhere else.

Frankly I find the direction this topic has been taken to be very disrespectful not only to those who have been posting the off-topic messages, but to all of it's participants, readers, and the OP.

Mods, any way you can step in here?

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1. Why did the venue change?
2. How does this affect the agenda? Why wasn't it updated to reflect it?
3. Do the people who you said were coming still plan to? I'm especially interested in meeting Jered and the rest of the Tradehill people.
4. Are the news agencies written on bitcoinconference.com still covering the event?
5. How many people have registered?
 
I've registered and booked everything, and my (substantial) hotel charges are non-refundable. But I may still cancel and cut my losses if this turns out to be a dud. If you are an honorable person you will accurately present details which are relevant to my decision.

1.   The venue changed because we had more people coming than we could accommodate at the original venue ( for Saturday ).

2.   This does not affect the agenda.   The schedule does now reflect "The Roosevelt Hotel" for Saturday.    ( which is only a few blocks away from the original venue, OnlyOneTV Studios ).

3.   Yes.  And many more than I originally said.  However, as for specific people --- like TradeHill --- you must ASK THEM.   Obviously, I cannot guarantee that anyone will come just because they said they would.

4.   That is what they told me.  Yes.   But I cannot guarantee any specific news agency's attendance either.

5.   As of this moment, many people have either registered online and paid by bitcoin, or paid in advance using other means.   However, the bitcoin community is a group of very very busy people.  Just as many more have told me they are coming... but have NOT yet registered.  We are expecting most people to register within the last 4 days.  The new venue will seat up to 200 people in the main seating auditorium, and accommodate about 20 vendor tables (6 ft by 2.5 ft) for vendor displays of products and services.

We are encouraging everyone to PLEASE go register right now... at http://bitcoinconference.com
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I want to go but I can only spend 1 day there. Can you please take an educated guess when the best day will be?

Also, is anyone kind enough to lend a room for the night?

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Saturday is the BIGGEST day, for sure.  Smiley

Thursday evening pre-conference festivities will begin.

 The conference will start on friday. 

 Sunday morning will be very busy too.   

 And sunday afternoon and evening will be post conference parties.

 Some key people have said that they will remain in town all week.
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I want to go but I can only spend 1 day there. Can you please take an educated guess when the best day will be?

Also, is anyone kind enough to lend a room for the night?

me but you would have to crash on the floor and not be weird. I'm staying at the Roosevelt.
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Unfortunately I will only be able to attend on Saturday, August 20.

Arriving Friday night, departing Sunday morning...


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As for the somethingaweful kids trolling way back, "humor" is in the eye of the beholder.  If it makes me laugh, that's good.  As long as it doesn't harm.  Don't waste people's time with epic-length posts interrupting a serious conversation.  That's not cool.  And not even funny.  Stick to harmless fun, like Cosby, bitcoin show theme, quadricopters etc.  Thanks.  I still love you.

Obviously,  as has been discussed, when bitcoin drops from $13.50 to $5.50 due to thieves devistating trust in Bitcoin..... that's a big problem.  The Roosevelt Hotel won't accept a fixed Bitcoin amount ( and you know I tried to get them to! you know I did! )

Ed and I and OnlyOneTV are not trying to make a profit on this event.  But we can't afford for it to lose money either.

We could have made the price a fixed 6 BTC or something... and kept it there.  But our desire was / is to keep it very affordable..... so every little startup and individual and even super smart high school kid..... with a passion for Bitcoin.... can attend.

We certainly don't want anyone turned away because they can't afford the admission price....  No no no!     ( if anyone is in that situation, email me )     No one will be turned away because they don't have $26.   Not on my watch.

Meanwhile, nothing is being kept secret ( except some big announcements being saved for the event ).....  We're just VERY busy.    And as for the numbers of registrations...  that is a moving target.

To complainers, I'll say only two things:  (1)  If you don't like anything about how this is run, you can let me know via email.  If you wanna complain to the world about it, just start your own conference.  (2) If you're the type of person who always finds something to complain about...  Please don't come to this conference.  Please.  Just don't come.

This is going to be a MAGICAL event... filled with unbelievable positive energy.

TRUST ME. This is not gonna be like any Bitcoin Meetup you've ever been to...   I know for sure that ALL the key players WILL be here.   Flying here from Africa, Europe, China, Japan, Central and South America, Australia, etc.

No matter the exact number of attendees....   The measure of its success will NOT be measured in number of attendees....

It will be measured in the QUALITY of the MINDS present... and the QUALITY of the CONVERSATIONS that will ensue.... and continue....24 hours a day for all those days...

And the personal ( and thus business ) CONNECTIONS that will be made.

OMG.   I am so excited!!!

Someone buy me a drink!

The conversations that will happen around the bar at the Roosevelt,  and at Hudson Eatery ( a classy nightlife celebrity hangout too, btw )...  It's gonna be sooooo amazing!

And the ANNOUNCEMENTS that are going to happen on Saturday.....   The Bitcoin World will be a-buzz.....

We decided for sure last night.  OnlyOneTV will be making a HUGE HUGE HUGE announcement at the Conference.   One you're all gonna be VERY excited about... when you hear it.  I can't say now.  It's a surprise.   But I will say it during my opening speech on Saturday morning.   :-)

Actually, we'll be announcing another super exciting thing at the Conference too.   I'm not really sure which one more people will be excited about.   Probably Both.   Both of these things will change the Bitcoin world immediately!

Oh, and those are only my OWN announcements...  I'm also privy to some major announcements to be made at the Conference by major vendors also.   They're gonna Rock your World too!!


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Will you have printed material or something similar being distributed that it is possible to purchase advertising in?
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Will there be a live videostream at the conference? Or at least some recordings? Are you gonna have a twitter hashtag? I'd really like to follow the event as closely as possible, even if I can't be there in person.

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Will there be a live videostream at the conference? Or at least some recordings? Are you gonna have a twitter hashtag? I'd really like to follow the event as closely as possible, even if I can't be there in person.

I'd l like to know this too!

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Will there be a live videostream at the conference? Or at least some recordings? Are you gonna have a twitter hashtag? I'd really like to follow the event as closely as possible, even if I can't be there in person.
I'd l like to know this too!
+1!  Smiley

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Will there be a live videostream at the conference? Or at least some recordings? Are you gonna have a twitter hashtag? I'd really like to follow the event as closely as possible, even if I can't be there in person.

This is a must. The conference NEEDS to be broadcast live on the net.

Getting a mainstream TV station to show it live would be nice, but unlikely.



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Bruce.....This needs to appear when you search google news!

Find a small news corp(Tribble statire even!) to get this in before the conference, It'll go all the better for having this.

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Will there be a live videostream at the conference?

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Bruce.....This needs to appear when you search google news!

Find a small news corp(Tribble statire even!) to get this in before the conference, It'll go all the better for having this.

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Bruce thank you for the update. My lady and I will be attending (but have not registered yet) and I can't wait to meet everyone and further solidify the vanguard of the Bitcoin revolution. Woot woot!
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Will there be a live videostream at the conference? Or at least some recordings? Are you gonna have a twitter hashtag? I'd really like to follow the event as closely as possible, even if I can't be there in person.
I'd l like to know this too!
+1!  Smiley

We have been in discussions with Bruce and although we can't be there personally, we will be providing a mobile web app for the conference (iOS and Android compatible) that will allow those unable to attend the ability to get key info and video (not live at this point.)  For those attending it will also have the full current schedule of events that will be updated as things change. In addition, it will have a vendor directory, speaker list, and twitter feed. (I recommend we use #BitCon hashtag)

We plan on keeping the app live indefinitely after the event so those who are completely unavailable during the event can catch up on it after the fact.
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We have been in discussions with Bruce and although we can't be there personally, we will be providing a mobile web app for the conference (iOS and Android compatible) that will allow those unable to attend the ability to get key info and video (not live at this point.)  For those attending it will also have the full current schedule of events that will be updated as things change. In addition, it will have a vendor directory, speaker list, and twitter feed. (I recommend we use #BitCon hashtag)

We plan on keeping the app live indefinitely after the event so those who are completely unavailable during the event can catch up on it after the fact.

When can I download this,  and what should I search for in the app store?

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When can I download this,  and what should I search for in the app store?

Due to time constraints, I don't think a native app will be approved in time for the event this year (We only conceived the idea for the app Saturday), so we are providing it in a web app format.  We will post the URL here this afternoon.

After this event, I will start a new thread to discuss possible features for a native app for next year's event, perhaps with next year's we can get live streams.
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I live in NYC.  I have purchased BTC.  I have websites that accept BTC.  However, I won't be attending the conference considering the admission fee.
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I live in NYC.  I have purchased BTC.  I have websites that accept BTC.  However, I won't be attending the conference considering the admission fee.

I'm paying for flight and hotel to attend this. And you won't even attend b/c $26 is too much?

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The admission fee is pretty goon considering it's a conference. I do wish Bruce would reply to e-mail or something.
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A live video feed would be amazing!

Intervex, that app sounds great.  I look forward to hearing when it is available.  Smiley
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Just paid the admission... DAMN Bit-pay transaction was fast! Literally 2 (!) seconds after sending payment from Instawallet (using Green Address feature), I had the receipt and confirmed payment. That was smooth as hell. Actually that money transfer happened faster than most emails lol
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I live in NYC.  I have purchased BTC.  I have websites that accept BTC.  However, I won't be attending the conference considering the admission fee.

You do realize that most conferences, even first year start-ups like this one, cost A LOT more than $26?

$26 is a move for two.

If the $26 is the reason your are not attending, then the conference does not need you.

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I live in NYC.  I have purchased BTC.  I have websites that accept BTC.  However, I won't be attending the conference considering the admission fee.

You do realize that most conferences, even first year start-ups like this one, cost A LOT more than $26?

$26 is a move for two.

If the $26 is the reason your are not attending, then the conference does not need you.
Yeah, lots (most?) of them are in the $75-$200 range.
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Fred has been trying unsuccessfully to contact Bruce about getting Ixcoin a vendor table and sign up to be a conference sponsor. He does not appear to be returning Fred's emails or chat requests.

I'm guessing he's pretty busy organizing the conference, but can anyone help in getting hold of him? That would be most appreciated. Thanks.

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Fred has been trying unsuccessfully to contact Bruce about getting Ixcoin a vendor table and sign up to be a conference sponsor. He does not appear to be returning Fred's emails or chat requests.

I'm guessing he's pretty busy organizing the conference, but can anyone help in getting hold of him? That would be most appreciated. Thanks.
I really cant believe that Bruce does not want this scam at his bitcoin conference  Wink
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Fred has been trying unsuccessfully to contact Bruce about getting Ixcoin a vendor table and sign up to be a conference sponsor. He does not appear to be returning Fred's emails or chat requests.

I'm guessing he's pretty busy organizing the conference, but can anyone help in getting hold of him? That would be most appreciated. Thanks.


Why do you need to contact Bruce? Just go here a pay the $130 for a vendor table: http://bitcoinme.com/index.php/bitcon-2011/

Or are you asking him to accept your ixcoins for a table? :p

P.S. My bet is that Nasakioto == Fred Twingham. Tell me I'm wrong.

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Why do you need to contact Bruce? Just go here a pay the $130 for a vendor table: http://bitcoinme.com/index.php/bitcon-2011/

Or are you asking him to accept your ixcoins for a table? :p

For various reasons, such as finding out what comprises the sponsor package of. We can't find any details on it.

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Fred, what will you be having at the Ixcoin table anyway?  And CoinedIxbits?  I know gold is a stretch but you could go with straight brass.
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For anyone booking at The Roosevelt Hotel, try discount code SWEET or FACEB2 for 10% off and free wifi.
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What does "Pseudonymous socializing" mean?
Probably a masquerade ball.

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Fred has been trying unsuccessfully to contact Bruce about getting Ixcoin a vendor table and sign up to be a conference sponsor. He does not appear to be returning Fred's emails or chat requests.

I'm guessing he's pretty busy organizing the conference, but can anyone help in getting hold of him? That would be most appreciated. Thanks.

Why would there be a Ixcoin table at a Bitcoin conference? It seems as weird as a Nokia stand at a Motorola conference.

Not trying to be agressive or anything, Im just curious. I really dont get what a Ixcoin table would do at a Bitcon conference.


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Fred has been trying unsuccessfully to contact Bruce about getting Ixcoin a vendor table and sign up to be a conference sponsor. He does not appear to be returning Fred's emails or chat requests.

I'm guessing he's pretty busy organizing the conference, but can anyone help in getting hold of him? That would be most appreciated. Thanks.

Why would there be a Ixcoin table at a Bitcoin conference? It seems as weird as a Nokia stand at a Motorola conference.

Not trying to be agressive or anything, Im just curious. I really dont get what a Ixcoin table would do at a Bitcon conference.

i thought the same thing... it would be truly bizarre.

it's not a 'p2p decentralized virtual currency conference', it's a bitcoin conference.
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I hope it's not too late to reserve a DuCoin stand?

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Fred has been trying unsuccessfully to contact Bruce about getting Ixcoin a vendor table and sign up to be a conference sponsor. He does not appear to be returning Fred's emails or chat requests.

I'm guessing he's pretty busy organizing the conference, but can anyone help in getting hold of him? That would be most appreciated. Thanks.


Sorry.  I am quite busy.

Pick up the telephone and call me if you have questions... anyone.  

You can buy a Vendor Table (or multiple Vendor Tables) and/or a Conference Sponsorship Display Package on the web site.

http://bitcoinconference.com

At this point, if you have questions, call.

I can also do email.  But allow a bit of time.

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Fred has been trying unsuccessfully to contact Bruce about getting Ixcoin a vendor table and sign up to be a conference sponsor. He does not appear to be returning Fred's emails or chat requests.

I'm guessing he's pretty busy organizing the conference, but can anyone help in getting hold of him? That would be most appreciated. Thanks.

Why would there be a Ixcoin table at a Bitcoin conference? It seems as weird as a Nokia stand at a Motorola conference.

Not trying to be agressive or anything, Im just curious. I really dont get what a Ixcoin table would do at a Bitcon conference.

I used to wonder the same thing when I saw the Microsoft booth at Usenix, but they kept sending it, with some very smart staff to man the booth, so it must have worked for them.

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Sounds like Bruce is ok with it.  Wink

On the one hand, I agree it is odd.  On the other hand, why not?
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I just booked my room at the Roosevelt.  Thanks for the special code, twobitcoins.

I typed my "special request" pictured above correctly, but the submission form stripped the apostrophe, quotes, and period out of my sentence.  Just a word of warning in case anyone's special request hinges on exact punctuation. Smiley

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I just booked my room at the Roosevelt.  Thanks for the special code, twobitcoins.

I typed my "special request" pictured above correctly, but the submission form stripped the apostrophe, quotes, and period out of my sentence.  Just a word of warning in case anyone's special request hinges on exact punctuation. Smiley
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The conference agenda has been updated! Print it out and keep it safe for the duration of the conference! If you have a smart phone you can download the pdf directly to your phone.

We are very excited!

If you're new to New York try hopstop.com

Any last minute questions?
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only that we still need to print out the banner Smiley   

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Call Wendell at fastsigns.com location on 30th St near 5th Ave.   Zip code 10001.

They will make any type of signs banners etc and deliver them to OnlyOneTV Studios for you.

They are almost right across the street.

Call him TODAY.

ALSO.....

Vendor Tables will be up from 7am to 6pm on Saturday. 

ALL DAY.

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FYI: Vendor Tables are for ALL Day Saturday!
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All,
  I'm proud to announce that the mobile conference app is now available.  You can access the app (iOS/Android Compatible) by going to: bitcon.mobi  If you are on an Apple iOS device, you can add it to the home screen and run it as a full-screen webapp.  I will update the schedule per the latest one published momentarily.  If you have pictures of the event, please e-mail them to photos@bitcon.mobi, or to the guys at OnlyOneTV and they will be added to the Pictures feed in the app. (Photos are screened before posting, so no, your porn won't make it in the app)

Current Features Include:
  - Interactive conference schedule with maps/phone integration (still in the process of updating with the latest info)
  - List of speakers (still in the process of adding the new ones)
  - Twitter Feed (Hashtag is #bitcon11)
  - Photo Feed
  - YouTube Feed
  - Location Map
  - Sponsor List

So whether or not you're going, stay up to date with the latest goings on using the bitcon.mobi app.

Unless it's really good.
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All,
  I'm proud to announce that the mobile conference app is now available.  You can access the app (iOS/Android Compatible) by going to: bitcon.mobi  If you are on an Apple iOS device, you can add it to the home screen and run it as a full-screen webapp.  I will update the schedule per the latest one published momentarily.  If you have pictures of the event, please e-mail them to photos@bitcon.mobi, or to the guys at OnlyOneTV and they will be added to the Pictures feed in the app. (Photos are screened before posting, so no, your porn won't make it in the app)

Current Features Include:
  - Interactive conference schedule with maps/phone integration (still in the process of updating with the latest info)
  - List of speakers (still in the process of adding the new ones)
  - Twitter Feed (Hashtag is #bitcon11)
  - Photo Feed
  - YouTube Feed
  - Location Map
  - Sponsor List

So whether or not you're going, stay up to date with the latest goings on using the bitcon.mobi app.

Unless it's really good.
Excellent!  Just "installed" it.  Smiley
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INFO HAS BEEN UPDATED: BitcoinMe.com :: Conference & Expo 2011

http://bitcoinme.com/index.php/bitcon-2011/#register
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Sign up as a Volunteer at the #Bitcoin Conference & World Expo NYC Sat Aug 19-21 & get Free Admission. manny@onlyonetv.com
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People are asking for live video feeds from the conference. Have the organizers or any of you who are attending thought about using Bambuser? (www.bambuser.com)

Broadcast live from any mobile device or webcam, for free.
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I would really like a live video feed!

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OnlyOneTV.com WILL be live streaming the entire #Bitcoin Conference & World Expo. We encourage EVERYONE in attendance to ALSO stream it. p1

If you have a camera, video camera, camera phone, MP3 recorder: We want YOU recording & streaming the #Bitcoin Conference & World Expo. p2

We also ask that you SHARE that video, audio, and photos content back with us... so we can upload a copy to our App for everyone to see. p3

Please BYOI.   Bring your own internet.   Bring your own Wi-Fi tethering solution.  Internet is available from the hotel but it must be ordered in advance and costs about $200 for one wired connection. 



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OnlyOneTV.com WILL be live streaming the entire #Bitcoin Conference & World Expo. We encourage EVERYONE in attendance to ALSO stream it. p1

If you have a camera, video camera, camera phone, MP3 recorder: We want YOU recording & streaming the #Bitcoin Conference & World Expo. p2

We also ask that you SHARE that video, audio, and photos content back with us... so we can upload a copy to our App for everyone to see. p3

Please BYOI.   Bring your own internet.   Bring your own Wi-Fi tethering solution.  Internet is available from the hotel but it must be ordered in advance and costs about $200 for one wired connection. 



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Fantastic! The planets didn't align for me to come over this time, but you can bet your ass I'll be sitting at the computer at 8:30 am on Saturday and watching Bruce making his announcements!

Thanks.
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Awesome!

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Tomorrow!!!! WOOT WOOT!
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Awesome!

Super awesome! I will be glued to my PC  Smiley
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All,
  I'm proud to announce that the mobile conference app is now available.  You can access the app (iOS/Android Compatible) by going to: bitcon.mobi  

So whether or not you're going, stay up to date with the latest goings on using the bitcon.mobi app.

Unless it's really good.

It does not seem to work for me.  opera mobile not supported and I need something else? What is the recommended browser?


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It does not seem to work for me.  opera mobile not supported and I need something else? What is the recommended browser?

I will take a look shortly, just got off a plane. Pretty or not, I'll get something functional for you by the end of the day.
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in the same light, http://bitnavigator.info was created in time for this conference solving the location issue.

see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37884.0 for more details.
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There is now a link to  http://bitcon.mobi   on the  http://bitcoinconference.com  page.
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Personally, I prefer "bitconf" to "bitcon"


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All,
  I'm proud to announce that the mobile conference app is now available.  You can access the app (iOS/Android Compatible) by going to: bitcon.mobi  If you are on an Apple iOS device, you can add it to the home screen and run it as a full-screen webapp.  I will update the schedule per the latest one published momentarily.  If you have pictures of the event, please e-mail them to photos@bitcon.mobi, or to the guys at OnlyOneTV and they will be added to the Pictures feed in the app. (Photos are screened before posting, so no, your porn won't make it in the app)

Current Features Include:
  - Interactive conference schedule with maps/phone integration (still in the process of updating with the latest info)
  - List of speakers (still in the process of adding the new ones)
  - Twitter Feed (Hashtag is #bitcon11)
  - Photo Feed
  - YouTube Feed
  - Location Map
  - Sponsor List

So whether or not you're going, stay up to date with the latest goings on using the bitcon.mobi app.

Unless it's really good.

Sweet! 


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On route to NYC now!   

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Lucky Dog!  We REALLY wanted to make it out (Were it not for a conflicting business engagement I'd have been all over it), we will be there for sure next year!
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FINAL SCHEDULE UPDATE to The #Bitcoin Conference & World Expo 2011 NYC is Now Online. Download it Now!  http://bit.ly/o4UOo2
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We hope the conference is a big success. Unable to make it this year. Will be there in 2012.
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Unable to make it this year Bruce. Best wishes to you and everyone who attends. Good luck !

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who reports and where can I read about the bitcon?! any links of bloggers etc would be interesting..

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who reports and where can I read about the bitcon?! any links of bloggers etc would be interesting..

Bit Navigator is going to be there at least uploading pictures, our editor has a wedding to attend to on Saturday unfortunately so our live blogging part isn't exactly worked out, for now the plan is to live tweet / pictures.

also we are en route now ;)
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who reports and where can I read about the bitcon?! any links of bloggers etc would be interesting..

Bit Navigator is going to be there at least uploading pictures, our editor has a wedding to attend to on Saturday unfortunately so our live blogging part isn't exactly worked out, for now the plan is to live tweet / pictures.

also we are en route now Wink

link? pretty please?
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it's in my signature but here you go lol

http://bitnavigator.info
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it's in my signature but here you go lol

http://bitnavigator.info

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Im gonna see if I can make it today. Sounds interesting.
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Is there a stream of this? At what time?
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so on Saturday is the conference at the TV studios or at the Roosevelt? that's the one day i can go... can i pay admission at the door ?
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Yes! We will stream everything live at onlyonetv.com! We're working on a second mobile stream since everyone has moved to the back of the studio for the time being. EVERYTHING on Saturday WILL be shown LIVE!
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Mobile Live Unit -  http://onlyonetv.com/?page_id=454

Main Live Unit - http://onlyonetv.com/watch-live/

The action is on the mobile shot at the moment.
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so on Saturday is the conference at the TV studios or at the Roosevelt? that's the one day i can go... can i pay admission at the door ?

I am still figuring out the last minute details of what I have to get done for the weekend to happen.  I am planning to come on saturday  only also.  My wife may or may not be with me.

I Second the question can i buy bitcoins at the door with cash to use for admission?
I am not planning on having a laptop with me so no wallet.dat file to transfer from.

And far as I know everything is at the Roosevelt right?

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It's nice to see live Bruce's chat with people you know by reputation. Great stuff.

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It's nice to see live Bruce's chat with people you know by reputation. Great stuff.


Agreed, strangely compelling, actually.
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