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June 25, 2014, 11:17:08 AM
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I think Devil was trying to apply it to your present project, not realizing that it was an irc chat from back in May. Maybe he didn't look at the date.   Smiley

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June 25, 2014, 11:19:36 AM
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I think Devil was trying to apply it to your present project, not realizing that it was an irc chat from back in May. Maybe he didn't look at the date.   Smiley

what made you think that? it says "whitecoin" in the chatlog. It was uploaded on May 4th...  here =http://pastebin.com/TKnxyQSS (btw: wasn't uploaded by me Smiley )

My point was very clearly written at the end of the post
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June 25, 2014, 11:21:40 AM
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I was talking in general. Bitcoin is anonymous compared to Credit Cards/Wire Transfers or other money transmittings.

To me the Darkcoin approach looks the most promissing to get true anonymity somewhen.

You probably won't get any kind of "true" anonymity from DarkSend. In current whitepaper there are too many edge cases when the blockchain analysis allows finding which output belong to which inputs with very high probability. DarkSend by itself really doesn't prevent reuse of addresses and doesn't prevent linking different addresses to the same wallet (user).

DarkCoin implements CoinJoin concept. For example, in some implementations of CoinJoin it is even possible to determine which outputs belong to which inputs by eyeballing:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27rsv8/confirmed_blockchaininfo_shared_coin_is_broken/

DarkSend will make blockchain analysis just "harder", but still far from impossible.

The paper is a few months old - the spec has changed since then.

The inputs/outputs by eyeballing may occur in normal coinjoin, but do not apply for DarkSend where inputs are identical (denomination of 10 DRK).

http://explorer.darkcoin.io/tx/56b3b95b76995d3e4d3107cf753c8496493010f625fc04d971e9262d74e6a5a5

As you can see, inputs are 10-10-10 and the published analysis of input/output matching for coinjoin can't apply for DarkSend.

There are other weaknesses, like the linking of change, which'll need improvement.

Yes, thanks. I was just trying to tell him that CoinJoin doesn't apriori mean that things will be completely anonymous.

I think that I've already asked for updated whitepaper on DarkCoin thread.

Are you from DarkCoin dev team?

Linking of change addresses to other addresses (that were used as inputs to master transaction, for example) seems to be a very serious problem. It can completely deanonymize DarkSend transactions.

Any (published) plans on how to solve this? Just using multiple change addresses won't completely solve this issue. In combination with not leaving any DRKs on input addresses it may make blockchain analysis little harder, but this is still not enough (addresses can be reused for example).



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June 25, 2014, 11:23:56 AM
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Guys, If you don't want this repeated to anyone else, maybe don't make it into a public pastebin?

You can believe anything, just because you see it on pastebin? lol...

It's pretty crazy that people like you exist on this planet... you are paris hilton or something like that sh*t?

Look that:

DeViL303 is a liar i found the proof here: http://pastebin.com/eSa8ena7

We have to believe in this pastebin so?
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June 25, 2014, 11:27:04 AM
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Guys, If you don't want this repeated to anyone else, maybe don't make it into a public pastebin?

You can believe anything, just because you see it on pastebin? lol...

It's pretty crazy that people like you exist on this planet... you are paris hilton or something like that sh*t?

Well TBH I don't think anyone would have the time to make up all the thousands of stupid posts. Also someone has confirmed to me that nothing I have posted so far is not true, so YOU believe what YOU want. Others can make their own minds up Smiley

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June 25, 2014, 11:28:37 AM
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Well TBH I don't think anyone would have the time to make up all the thousands of stupid posts. Also someone has confirmed to me that nothing I have posted so far is not true, so YOU believe what YOU want. Others can make their own minds up Smiley

You don't think because you don't use your brain.

DeViL303 is a liar i found the proof here: http://pastebin.com/eSa8ena7

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June 25, 2014, 11:30:48 AM
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Well TBH I don't think anyone would have the time to make up all the thousands of stupid posts. Also someone has confirmed to me that nothing I have posted so far is not true, so YOU believe what YOU want. Others can make their own minds up Smiley

You don't think because you don't use your brain.

DeViL303 is a liar i found the proof here: http://pastebin.com/eSa8ena7


Well if you believe that someone has spent the last 10 weeks making up and posting thousands of posts of faked chat logs onto pastebin that's ok. that's your right. im not asking you to believe me without question, im asking people to make their own minds up.

Also mindfox has confirmed some of them to be real..

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June 25, 2014, 11:32:15 AM
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Well if you believe that someone has spent the last 10 weeks making up and posting thousands of posts of faked chat logs onto pastebin that's ok. that's your right. im not asking you to believe me without question, im asking people to make their own minds up.

So you are a pedophile, i found the proof here: http://pastebin.com/pRgPSdTw

If you believe that someone has spent the last 10 weeks (or even 1minute) making up and posting that shit... you are crazy man.


In all case we don't care if they work on whitecoin too, if they are pumper and dumper, ect, ect... you just have to accept our choice and shut your mouth of monkey.
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June 25, 2014, 11:36:21 AM
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Well if you believe that someone has spent the last 10 weeks making up and posting thousands of posts of faked chat logs onto pastebin that's ok. that's your right. im not asking you to believe me without question, im asking people to make their own minds up.

So you are a pedophile, i found the proof here: http://pastebin.com/pRgPSdTw

If you believe that someone has spent the last 10 weeks (or even 1minute) making up and posting that shit... you are crazy man.


sticks and stones Smiley

I don't believe that someone has spent the last 10 weeks making up and posting that stuff those logs from the group. I believe there is too much of it to be faked.

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June 25, 2014, 11:37:38 AM
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sticks and stones Smiley

I don't believe that someone has spent the last 10 weeks making up and posting that stuff those logs from the group. I believe there is too much of it to be faked.

So you are one person easy to corrupt.

Who the hell want to deal with you? (except yourself, your username said that you are the "Devil")
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June 25, 2014, 11:40:44 AM
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what? I don't want to deal with anyone. Smiley

So stop to spam your BS.
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June 25, 2014, 11:44:36 AM
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what? I don't want to deal with anyone. Smiley

So stop to spam your BS.

Well if it is BS its certainly not mine, for example, I have no idea who these people are so how could I begin to make up a convo like this :

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[6/18/14 10:29:13 PM] Josh Lambert: yo
[6/18/14 10:29:16 PM] Josh Lambert: you still awake?
[6/18/14 11:42:42 PM] NinjaTrader: hey was watching movie biut to blaze then crash
[6/18/14 11:43:19 PM] Josh Lambert: i got added to a group that is basically anti prom
[6/18/14 11:43:37 PM] Josh Lambert: its a few ppl in the group
[6/18/14 11:43:43 PM] Josh Lambert: who notice shit is fucked up
[6/18/14 11:44:25 PM] Josh Lambert: idk was gonna add ya so u could read but chat is over now
[6/18/14 11:44:35 PM] Josh Lambert: cause i know ur homies feel the same way
[6/18/14 11:44:58 PM] Josh Lambert: i know everyone is happier now that we made some money
[6/18/14 11:45:10 PM] Josh Lambert: but theyre shilling us hardcore prom is telling straight lies to us
[6/18/14 11:45:16 PM] Josh Lambert: same with moosa
[6/18/14 11:45:36 PM] Josh Lambert: but you played smart and sold and bought properly
[6/18/14 11:45:48 PM] Josh Lambert: so youre good i guess lol
[6/18/14 11:46:25 PM] NinjaTrader: too much drama for me im making out ok
[6/18/14 11:46:28 PM] Josh Lambert: and supposedly there is another skype chat
[6/18/14 11:46:39 PM] Josh Lambert: which had the word on glyph from day 1
[6/18/14 11:47:11 PM] NinjaTrader: who says this ?
[6/18/14 11:47:18 PM] Josh Lambert: attious
[6/18/14 11:47:23 PM] Josh Lambert: he was in it but they kicked him
[6/18/14 11:47:29 PM] Josh Lambert: cause he didnt do anything for crypt
[6/18/14 11:47:30 PM] NinjaTrader: lol
[6/18/14 11:47:40 PM] NinjaTrader: he didn't tho
[6/18/14 11:47:48 PM] Josh Lambert: hes still in the main group
[6/18/14 11:47:52 PM] Josh Lambert: just not in the small one
[6/18/14 11:47:57 PM] Josh Lambert: hes not saying he did anything
[6/18/14 11:48:16 PM] Josh Lambert: just be careful
[6/18/14 11:48:32 PM] Josh Lambert: etc
[6/18/14 11:48:32 PM] Josh Lambert: sell when u think its the top buy when u think its the bottom
[6/18/14 11:48:39 PM] Josh Lambert: like u did earlier at 250 or w.e
[6/18/14 11:49:02 PM] NinjaTrader: prom also instructed everyone to take profits
[6/18/14 11:49:11 PM] Josh Lambert: true
[6/18/14 11:49:17 PM] Josh Lambert: but kinda
[6/18/14 11:49:25 PM] Josh Lambert: it was one line and then he was gone for hours
[6/18/14 11:49:37 PM] Josh Lambert: then all of a sudden dump
[6/18/14 11:49:57 PM] Josh Lambert: and moosa basically told ppl to hold and even told ppl not to buy proms dump
[6/18/14 11:50:11 PM] NinjaTrader: i would say china dumped
[6/18/14 11:50:19 PM] Josh Lambert: i was gonna buy the coins lol
[6/18/14 11:50:19 PM] NinjaTrader: after raging all night
[6/18/14 11:50:31 PM] Josh Lambert: prom fell asleep with his bot on
[6/18/14 11:50:33 PM] Josh Lambert: it wasnt china
[6/18/14 11:50:49 PM] Josh Lambert: On 6/18/14, at 4:31 AM, Prometheus Lightbearer wrote:
> fell asleep with bot on
gg
[6/18/14 11:51:01 PM] NinjaTrader: either way im cool and im way up
[6/18/14 11:51:08 PM] Josh Lambert: i know
[6/18/14 11:51:13 PM] Josh Lambert: only cause u didnt listen to him tho
[6/18/14 11:51:14 PM] NinjaTrader: and this goes to BTCE im moor ethan estatic
[6/18/14 11:51:47 PM] Josh Lambert: i know u didnt sell any at 90k to rebuy "lower"
[6/18/14 11:52:00 PM] NinjaTrader: i did actually
[6/18/14 11:52:07 PM] Josh Lambert: when he had tuna sell?
[6/18/14 11:52:11 PM] NinjaTrader: and bought back higher
[6/18/14 11:52:13 PM] NinjaTrader: yea
[6/18/14 11:52:20 PM] Josh Lambert: oh
[6/18/14 11:52:23 PM] NinjaTrader: to break the 40k
[6/18/14 11:52:37 PM] NinjaTrader: i lost cpins but gained higher value
[6/18/14 11:52:41 PM] Josh Lambert: well those walls were prob his
[6/18/14 11:52:55 PM] NinjaTrader: why u doubt prom so much lol
[6/18/14 11:52:55 PM] Josh Lambert: idk i know ur cool cause u made money
[6/18/14 11:53:17 PM] Josh Lambert: cause they aint giving us the info
[6/18/14 11:53:30 PM] Josh Lambert: its always on the fly
[6/18/14 11:53:40 PM] NinjaTrader: the market is on the fly
[6/18/14 11:53:54 PM] Josh Lambert: i wouldve held my crypt from day one
[6/18/14 11:54:01 PM] NinjaTrader: same
[6/18/14 11:54:04 PM] Josh Lambert: idk
[6/18/14 11:54:09 PM] NinjaTrader: had i ghad more faith
[6/18/14 11:54:18 PM] Josh Lambert: we didnt have faith for a reason tho
[6/18/14 11:54:33 PM] NinjaTrader: no one i main did
[6/18/14 11:54:43 PM] NinjaTrader: only blind faith
[6/18/14 11:54:54 PM] Josh Lambert: yeah but prom had a plan
[6/18/14 11:54:56 PM] Josh Lambert: the whole time
[6/18/14 11:55:00 PM] Josh Lambert: he dumped it to 20k
[6/18/14 11:55:17 PM] Josh Lambert: we werent in the plan is all im saying
[6/18/14 11:55:49 PM] NinjaTrader: were all sitting with a nice chunk now and some who have just held are real good
[6/18/14 11:56:36 PM] Josh Lambert: i know man
[6/18/14 11:56:42 PM] Josh Lambert: i just want that 100
[6/18/14 11:56:46 PM] Josh Lambert: really fucking bad
[6/18/14 11:56:54 PM] Josh Lambert: and im always one step away
[6/18/14 11:57:16 PM] Josh Lambert: once again i had a coin count that was a way to break 100 btc
[6/18/14 11:57:24 PM] Josh Lambert: this time 250 again
[6/18/14 11:57:34 PM] NinjaTrader: it will come

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June 25, 2014, 11:49:24 AM
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Well if it is BS its certainly not mine, for example, I have no idea who these people are so how could I begin to make up a convo like this :

I think you don't understand... nobody care about what you are talking, you spam this thread with BS only that XD

I advise to be careful because google like you  Cool
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Well if it is BS its certainly not mine, for example, I have no idea who these people are so how could I begin to make up a convo like this :

I think you don't understand... nobody care about what you are talking, you spam this thread with BS only that XD

I advise to be careful because google like you  Cool

maybe you don't care, maybe some people do care, that conversation I just posted could show the entire reason for attious and the FUD attack :
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[6/18/14 11:45:10 PM] Josh Lambert: but theyre shilling us hardcore prom is telling straight lies to us
[6/18/14 11:45:16 PM] Josh Lambert: same with moosa
[6/18/14 11:45:36 PM] Josh Lambert: but you played smart and sold and bought properly
[6/18/14 11:45:48 PM] Josh Lambert: so youre good i guess lol
[6/18/14 11:46:25 PM] NinjaTrader: too much drama for me im making out ok
[6/18/14 11:46:28 PM] Josh Lambert: and supposedly there is another skype chat
[6/18/14 11:46:39 PM] Josh Lambert: which had the word on glyph from day 1
[6/18/14 11:47:11 PM] NinjaTrader: who says this ?
[6/18/14 11:47:18 PM] Josh Lambert: attious
[6/18/14 11:47:23 PM] Josh Lambert: he was in it but they kicked him
[6/18/14 11:47:29 PM] Josh Lambert: cause he didnt do anything for crypt
[6/18/14 11:47:30 PM] NinjaTrader: lol
[6/18/14 11:47:40 PM] NinjaTrader: he didn't tho

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June 25, 2014, 11:55:30 AM
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My emails being Picked Up as JUNK MAIL Huh

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Posts: 218, Visits: 495When Spamming out my Monthly Newsletter

they are getting Picked up as junk mail in every ones Mail box's regardless what type of adress they have

( I only picked this up because my very own email box picked it up as junk mail )

is their any way around this ( ie delayed sending ?? )

X-Message-Status: n:0
X-SID-PRA: Gaming Unleashed <gamingunleashed@retracted
X-SID-Result: Pass
X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt1dqH1iwq/pZuLzUCZGPchV+uBEpirLXa4CakuZ1PcJjp09OZO3M/Sc
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Message-Id: <5rqvqp$24aar0@RETRACTED
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.14,367,1170595800";
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mime-version: 1.0
from: "Gaming Unleashed" <gamingunleashed@retracted
to: MasterCATZ@retracted
date: 4 Apr 2007 11:18:17 +1000
subject: EASTER 48 Hr LAN PARTY THIS FRIDAY BEDS AND NEW CHAIRS
content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
content-transfer-encoding: base64
Return-Path: gamingunleashed@retracted
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2007 01:17:48.0413 (UTC) FILETIME=[0EB20AD0:01C77657]

Their does not seem to be anything showing here that would make RETRACTED think its spam





soo therefor mastercatz is gamingUnleashed who is a team member pretending to be someone else.

who new

your welcome for the retractions


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June 25, 2014, 11:56:34 AM
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maybe you don't care, maybe some people do care, that conversation I just posted could show the entire reason for attious and the FUD attack :

Ok but... where is the proof? i understand why you are here... but you have no proof so it's hard to believe you.
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I am curious as to why he did not even respond to this thread. Not a single fck was given by him. No news, no announcement, no reassuring post. Nothing.

And still I am holding Cheesy Will wait this out patiently.
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maybe you don't care, maybe some people do care, that conversation I just posted could show the entire reason for attious and the FUD attack :

Ok but... where is the proof? i understand why you are here... but you have no proof so it's hard to believe you.

You mean definitve 100% un refutable proof, sorry man, with people accounts possibly being hacked etc, even if moosanyc himself came on here and admitted it all, it still wouldn't be "proof" , so im just telling you what ive found by searching pastebin for group members names and "crypt" , people will have make there mind up if its real or not, if it is all BS, then fair play to whoever coordinated it all, because like I said there is thousands and thousands of posts going back over 10 weeks. so that was a lot of effort to put into FUDing this coin if you ask me, that is my opinion. 

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June 25, 2014, 12:01:48 PM
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From dev to everybody:

He has stated that he can't give a public update at this time, stating that if he deflects concerns, he will reveal the design. Target release is still late June.

In the meantime, we have been working on a WebGUI front end for CRYPTcoin. A public beta will be released soon

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You mean definitve 100% un refutable proof, sorry man, with people accounts possibly being hacked etc, even if moosanyc himself came on here and admitted it all, it still wouldn't be "proof" , so im just telling you what ive found by searching pastebin for group members names and "crypt" , people will have make there mind up if its real or not, if it is all BS, then fair play to whoever coordinated it all, because like I said there is thousands and thousands of posts going back over 10 weeks. so that was a lot of effort to put into FUDing this coin if you ask me, that is my opinion.  

Yes because it's true, and what you are talking about is 100% refutable, that the problem ...  Cheesy

You think like a 12yo kid, it's stupid to spam here if you don't have a valid proof, here we are serious, so shut up and move away, pedophile.
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June 25, 2014, 12:10:05 PM
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name calling just shows your maturity level.

Since pastebin told me that you are a pedophile i already know that my maturity level is higher than you.

I add you in my ignore list but hey... i don't forget about that you are a pedophile and nobody will forget it Wink
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