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Author Topic: [ANN] Revamped PinkCoin (PC / PINK) PoS | Multipool | Fundraiser | Anonymous  (Read 206789 times)
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June 06, 2014, 04:35:39 PM
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This is how good it gets. A million PC to whoever can trace the anon transaction ID. Everyone is invited to take a punch at the beast Smiley



http://anon.pinkcoin.info/million-pinkcoin-wallet.zip


https://twitter.com/CryptoCayce/status/474837504680394754


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If you can't figure it out, feel free to share the zip with your friends, and keep a copy for yourself that you can check later. Be sure to read the file 'Information.txt' for important information on how to win and see if the prize has been claimed yet!

Once the prize is won and the contest is over we'll post the transaction ID of the original send so that *everyone* can check the transaction in the blockchain and unlock the zip and access both the wallet and the anon.txt that provides verifiable information on the technique used to hide the transaction.

This isn't an impossible challenge! It was never supposed to be. It's just supposed to be difficult! Someone will find it, guaranteed! The question is, how long will it stand before someone does? What other team has such confidence in their anonymous system that they're willing to put a prize worth over 1btc if you can *guess*, with an unlimited number of guesses, where a transaction actually came from. That's way bigger than making it impossible to create a reliable link between the sender and receiver. That's making it virtually impossible to find the original send in the first place at all. That's more than anonymous. That's insane.

Yeah, you stole this idea from the XC thread, but go ahead and say it's your idea to make a bounty.

The XC team put over 1btc worth of coins in a wallet, zipped it with the transaction ID of the original send, along with verifiable information contained inside of it, and threw it out into the wild?

I saw the bounty that atcsecure put out to find where a send came from some time ago, and I highly respect his work. He is a phenomenal dev and a world class artist of a programmer. But nothing about his system or the bounty he offered was stolen from him, and any similarities are coincidental and completely unintended.

We're not saying it's an impossible task either. The goal isn't for it to be impossible, or make claims that it is. It isn't impossible at all. The goal is to get the community involved and have some fun with the whole thing.

Edit: "say it's your idea to make a bounty."

I wont say that. Because it's not true. There's nothing original about offering a bounty. We were just aiming for a cool execution;)
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June 06, 2014, 04:40:17 PM
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oh no they stole an idea !!
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If you can't figure it out, feel free to share the zip with your friends, and keep a copy for yourself that you can check later. Be sure to read the file 'Information.txt' for important information on how to win and see if the prize has been claimed yet!

Once the prize is won and the contest is over we'll post the transaction ID of the original send so that *everyone* can check the transaction in the blockchain and unlock the zip and access both the wallet and the anon.txt that provides verifiable information on the technique used to hide the transaction.

This isn't an impossible challenge! It was never supposed to be. It's just supposed to be difficult! Someone will find it, guaranteed! The question is, how long will it stand before someone does? What other team has such confidence in their anonymous system that they're willing to put a prize worth over 1btc if you can *guess*, with an unlimited number of guesses, where a transaction actually came from. That's way bigger than making it impossible to create a reliable link between the sender and receiver. That's making it virtually impossible to find the original send in the first place at all. That's more than anonymous. That's insane.

Yeah, you stole this idea from the XC thread, but go ahead and say it's your idea to make a bounty.

The XC team put over 1btc worth of coins in a wallet, zipped it with the transaction ID of the original send, along with verifiable information contained inside of it, and threw it out into the wild?

I saw the bounty that atcsecure put out to find where a send came from some time ago, and I highly respect his work. He is a phenomenal dev and a world class artist of a programmer. But nothing about his system or the bounty he offered was stolen from him, and any similarities are coincidental and completely unintended.

We're not saying it's an impossible task either. The goal isn't for it to be impossible, or make claims that it is. It isn't impossible at all. The goal is to get the community involved and have some fun with the whole thing.

Edit: "say it's your idea to make a bounty."

I wont say that. Because it's not true. There's nothing original about offering a bounty. We were just aiming for a cool execution;)


Plus its more like an the idea of ethical hackers.... where hackers are invited by security companies to test how well they hold up against the smartest and brightest out there. Those who succeed are substantially rewarded for their ingenuity and the company improves their product by fixing their vulnerability. Pink's anon is no different.... and its a win win for everyone. The longer the bounty goes unclaimed, the more certain we become at how hard it would be to trace a transaction. As time goes on, more and more people will know that the anon is not BS and the value of pink will increase steadily. This makes the 1 million PC bounty more valuable (its worth about 1.8 BTC atm) with time and thereby attracting better more experienced people whose skills and time is worth more in the free market. A point will come where someone will figure it out.... could be tomorrow... could be a week from now.

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June 06, 2014, 05:11:12 PM
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Someone got it! Knew it would happen eventually!
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June 06, 2014, 05:16:44 PM
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Someone got it! Knew it would happen eventually!

LOL... that was fast Smiley

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June 06, 2014, 05:21:21 PM
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Someone got it! Knew it would happen eventually!

LOL... that was fast Smiley

Yeah, I had my doubts it would last THAT long;) But we got a good 8 hours out of it! Haha!

I'd like to invite the winner to post about how he got it and regale us with tales of his mad skills! Will post the correct transaction ID for everyone for everyone to check out in 2 hours;D Big thanks to those who participated!
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June 06, 2014, 05:30:43 PM
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Someone got it! Knew it would happen eventually!

LOL... that was fast Smiley

Yeah, I had my doubts it would last THAT long;) But we got a good 8 hours out of it! Haha!

I'd like to invite the winner to post about how he got it and regale us with tales of his mad skills! Will post the correct transaction ID for everyone for everyone to check out in 2 hours;D Big thanks to those who participated!

Damn.... I was hoping for atleast a good 3 days Tongue Well, as a consolation if it was brute force using all the tx id from the explorer, it would have no real implications and still means the anon is solid. But if its not, I too would love to know how he figured it out Smiley

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June 06, 2014, 05:36:51 PM
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Someone got it! Knew it would happen eventually!

LOL... that was fast Smiley

Yeah, I had my doubts it would last THAT long;) But we got a good 8 hours out of it! Haha!

I'd like to invite the winner to post about how he got it and regale us with tales of his mad skills! Will post the correct transaction ID for everyone for everyone to check out in 2 hours;D Big thanks to those who participated!

Damn.... I was hoping for atleast a good 3 days Tongue Well, as a consolation if it was brute force using all the tx id from the explorer, it would have no real implications and still means the anon is solid. But if its not, I too would love to know how he figured it out Smiley

*snicker* Well it wasn't impossible. I did it in about an hour when I tried. But it made my brain bleed and I had to try dozens of hashes to find the right one, and I knew where to look in the blockchain:)
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June 06, 2014, 05:41:16 PM
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So now what do the dev's do?
Do they make the anon feature much stronger and will it take a week/month?
The price unfortunately went down a bit, because the anon feature got broken.





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June 06, 2014, 05:42:13 PM
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Someone got it! Knew it would happen eventually!

LOL... that was fast Smiley

Yeah, I had my doubts it would last THAT long;) But we got a good 8 hours out of it! Haha!

I'd like to invite the winner to post about how he got it and regale us with tales of his mad skills! Will post the correct transaction ID for everyone for everyone to check out in 2 hours;D Big thanks to those who participated!

Damn.... I was hoping for atleast a good 3 days Tongue Well, as a consolation if it was brute force using all the tx id from the explorer, it would have no real implications and still means the anon is solid. But if its not, I too would love to know how he figured it out Smiley

*snicker* Well it wasn't impossible. I did it in about an hour when I tried. But it made my brain bleed and I had to try dozens of hashes to find the right one, and I knew where to look in the blockchain:)

Well, I quietly did a minor edit in my previous rant and hoping no one noticed Tongue I knew we should have put the reward something like 100k or something  Cheesy

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June 06, 2014, 05:44:04 PM
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Someone got it! Knew it would happen eventually!

LOL... that was fast Smiley

Yeah, I had my doubts it would last THAT long;) But we got a good 8 hours out of it! Haha!

I'd like to invite the winner to post about how he got it and regale us with tales of his mad skills! Will post the correct transaction ID for everyone for everyone to check out in 2 hours;D Big thanks to those who participated!

Damn.... I was hoping for atleast a good 3 days Tongue Well, as a consolation if it was brute force using all the tx id from the explorer, it would have no real implications and still means the anon is solid. But if its not, I too would love to know how he figured it out Smiley

*snicker* Well it wasn't impossible. I did it in about an hour when I tried. But it made my brain bleed and I had to try dozens of hashes to find the right one, and I knew where to look in the blockchain:)

Where do we check to make sure the anon feature was really cracked by you?

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June 06, 2014, 05:47:20 PM
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So someone could have just read all the txids from the blockchain, put them into a lookup table and tried each one on the zip? That shouldn't have taken too long. Lets hope this person chimes in on how it was done.

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June 06, 2014, 05:50:17 PM
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Someone got it! Knew it would happen eventually!

LOL... that was fast Smiley

Yeah, I had my doubts it would last THAT long;) But we got a good 8 hours out of it! Haha!

I'd like to invite the winner to post about how he got it and regale us with tales of his mad skills! Will post the correct transaction ID for everyone for everyone to check out in 2 hours;D Big thanks to those who participated!

Damn.... I was hoping for atleast a good 3 days Tongue Well, as a consolation if it was brute force using all the tx id from the explorer, it would have no real implications and still means the anon is solid. But if its not, I too would love to know how he figured it out Smiley

*snicker* Well it wasn't impossible. I did it in about an hour when I tried. But it made my brain bleed and I had to try dozens of hashes to find the right one, and I knew where to look in the blockchain:)

Where do we check to make sure the anon feature was really cracked by you?

Oh no, I didn't participate in the Millionaire Challenge. I don't have it. I'm the one that put it together in the first place (!). But I tried the challenge a few hours after I put together the zip to try and see if I could figure it out myself without cheating, though I did know the techniques I used to hide it in the first place so I knew what to look for. Still took about an hour to find the right one.
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June 06, 2014, 05:52:18 PM
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So someone could have just read all the txids from the blockchain, put them into a lookup table and tried each one on the zip? That shouldn't have taken too long. Lets hope this person chimes in on how it was done.



Yeap. That's definitely a possibility. It's part of the reason I didn't go too far with the anonymizing process I took to put it all together. Wanted someone to be able to do it by hand before someone could just code a script to do it for them.

Just wait til the txid is posted and you get to see all the addresses it could have been;P
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June 06, 2014, 05:52:30 PM
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Hi


So now what do the dev's do?
Do they make the anon feature much stronger and will it take a week/month?
The price unfortunately went down a bit, because the anon feature got broken.



Well, I wouldnt say the anon got broken just yet. I guess we now wait for the guy to come forward and let us know how it was done. My best guess is that it was brute force... of course, I wouldn't bet my 1 million PC on it though Tongue

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June 06, 2014, 08:07:10 PM
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So now what do the dev's do?
Do they make the anon feature much stronger and will it take a week/month?
The price unfortunately went down a bit, because the anon feature got broken.



Well, I wouldnt say the anon got broken just yet. I guess we now wait for the guy to come forward and let us know how it was done. My best guess is that it was brute force... of course, I wouldn't bet my 1 million PC on it though Tongue


I doubt it got cracked, and even if it did, I can guarantee you the method used will be far too advanced for most of us to understand. If someone does not share their methods, my assumption is because they cracked/brute forced the 7zip file. Which imo is faster and easier than tracking down the actual password.

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June 06, 2014, 08:08:49 PM
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Someone got it! Knew it would happen eventually!

LOL... that was fast Smiley

Yeah, I had my doubts it would last THAT long;) But we got a good 8 hours out of it! Haha!

I'd like to invite the winner to post about how he got it and regale us with tales of his mad skills! Will post the correct transaction ID for everyone for everyone to check out in 2 hours;D Big thanks to those who participated!

As promised, here's the secret send's Transaction ID and also the password for the wallet: df0747f88896537b2ba91ef2b48f1833506d8c555cdef05358705a9dc301b24a

Thanks again everyone for participating in the challenge!
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June 06, 2014, 08:17:01 PM
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So now what do the dev's do?
Do they make the anon feature much stronger and will it take a week/month?
The price unfortunately went down a bit, because the anon feature got broken.







Lol, if it was broken the wallet would have been cracked in minutes. Not 8 hours. Nobody actually traced the transaction with even 10% certainty. There were only two ways to actually get winning transaction id: 1, search through the blockchain for similar amounts that had been sent and try each of their transaction ids (there was over a hundred to try across a span of about 40 blocks in the blockchain), or 2, as noted above, collect a list of ALL transaction ids in the block chain and brute force the zip with that.

Nobody actually cracked the anon feature. It was all a block explorer egg hunt!
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June 06, 2014, 08:22:40 PM
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The devs need to say something ASAP.  To the investor community (who don't understand the real passion behind the coin) you all claimed to have anon and after an hour someone proved this false.  People are dumping on Bittrex now.  This is what happened to XC.  Their tech I guess works, maybe not, maybe is done, maybe is still a work-in-progress and their forum is wishy-washy and not definite from a quick look and their value just isn't recovering.  At least Pink hasn't attracted a "conga line of trolls" as someone once called it.
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June 06, 2014, 08:27:56 PM
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OK, that seems to make sense; get that posted up in block letters and non-techy so that panicky day trader types get it and stop dumping.  There's an uptick now, not sure how real that is though.


Hi


So now what do the dev's do?
Do they make the anon feature much stronger and will it take a week/month?
The price unfortunately went down a bit, because the anon feature got broken.







Lol, if it was broken the wallet would have been cracked in minutes. Not 8 hours. Nobody actually traced the transaction with even 10% certainty. There were only two ways to actually get winning transaction id: 1, search through the blockchain for similar amounts that had been sent and try each of their transaction ids (there was over a hundred to try across a span of about 40 blocks in the blockchain), or 2, as noted above, collect a list of ALL transaction ids in the block chain and brute force the zip with that.

Nobody actually cracked the anon feature. It was all a block explorer egg hunt!
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