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Collegestudent
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May 31, 2014, 07:07:52 AM |
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Please agree to tokyo's proposal HYPER dev
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HYPERfuture (OP)
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May 31, 2014, 07:11:31 AM Last edit: June 02, 2014, 07:03:51 PM by HYPERfuture |
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EDIT: Tokyoghetto has been deleting all posts I make in his thread above showing that HYPER is heading towards full transparency ASAP, and is a legitimate long term coin which is here to stay. I believe I mistakenly said earlier Tokyoghetto has integrity. I was wrong. I gave him 10K HYPER as compensation because his fees were too high. He proceeded to dump it and then try and destroy this coin. This was before he had even touched any funds or was due to start managing the fund (a whole week before). Here is the kind of vital info he keeps deleting from his thread:Important HYPER updates! The MMO Outreach Fund (for offering bounties to get HYPER accepted as an in-game currency in currently existing virtual worlds etc) has been established with 200 000 K HYPER at this address: http://hyper.blockexplorer.cc/address/HJCFQjBCapWiTQUiAZ66BVsdycFBK12AuzThe HYPER General Marketing Fund has been established with 150 K HYPER at this address: http://hyper.blockexplorer.cc/address/HUhjjQBqLCGFMYm9Umtk42jWQNDqS7caV4Deductions from both funds will only take place to pay people who are contributing to the objectives of the fund. The wallet will be opened daily, so coins can compound increasing the value of the fund. Fund activity for both funds will be entirely transparent via the HYPER blockchainAfter the primary 500 000 MMO Development Fund is in escrow (still working on that) there will be 386 000 HYPER left for bounties to get HYPER back into the stratosphere. At a later date, any HYPER left over from bounties, will be rolled back into the other funds. To be honest I am still hesitant to give anyone 500 000 HYPER (the main MMO development fund), but if that's what it takes to get HYPER back into orbit then so be it. I am still in discussion with a number of members about this and will have more updates soon. An IPO is still being considered to raise BTC for the Market Stabilization fund, if this does go ahead the market fund will be BTC only, there is no point dedicating HYPER to the Market Fund, and selling HYPER on the exchange right now as this will only lower the price. If the IPO and fund go ahead, then the BTC will be used to hold HYPER value stable and increase the price on the exchanges. HYPER which is purchased as a result of the funds activity will be rolled over into one of the other funds for staking, until HYPER exchange rate and volume can absorb strategic selling of small amounts to increase BTC in the fund for more market making. Until this is possible the HYPER purchased will be kept in one of the other funds so it can stake with those coins. Of course, if we do go ahead this the IPO will take place through a trusted member. If the IPO does not go ahead, HYPER will be added to the fund directly, and converted into BTC with strategic trades when the market can support it. I'm currently in discussion with: - Android wallet developers - Developers who can make simple online games which use HYPER - Developers who may be able to help with the coding work of the HYPER space MMO. http://hypercrypto.com/space-based-mmo/Thanks guys Here is my original post: Tokyoghetto I've had nothing but kind words to say about you. I understand you're upset but a 125 000 HYPER fee (which you wanted to keep a secret) became far too much for the services offered. If the agreement was public I would have honored it but you wanted 125K under the table. You said my coin would never work without you, and I naively believed you. I've been working day and night to get this coin to where it is today, so we can launch the MMO and other projects. If I don't think something is in the best interests of this coin I will not just let it happen - I've put too much time, energy, cash investment and creativity into this coin to do anything which is not in the best interests of the project. I'm sorry things didn't work out, and I'm sorry to hear you dumped my gesture of goodwill when this coin is just getting started.
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HYPERfuture (OP)
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May 31, 2014, 07:13:15 AM |
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Please agree to tokyo's proposal HYPER dev
Why would I accept a proposal from someone who has no idea of the amount of work it takes to get a coin off the ground? And he dumped his gesture of goodwill from me? Not interested. Sorry!
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tokyoghetto
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May 31, 2014, 07:17:43 AM |
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Please agree to tokyo's proposal HYPER dev
Why would I accept a proposal from someone who has no idea of the amount of work it takes to get a coin off the ground? And he dumped his gesture of goodwill from me? Not interested. Sorry! I don't think you know how property and ownership work. What I do with MY COINS is MY BUSINESS. What does it matter if I sold them, kept them, gave them away or wiped my ass with them....my coins my decision.
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HYPERfuture (OP)
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May 31, 2014, 07:19:35 AM |
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Please agree to tokyo's proposal HYPER dev
Why would I accept a proposal from someone who has no idea of the amount of work it takes to get a coin off the ground? And he dumped his gesture of goodwill from me? Not interested. Sorry! I don't think you know how property and ownership work. What I do with MY COINS is MY BUSINESS. What does it matter if I sold them, kept them, gave them away or wiped my ass with them....my coins my decision. I know your upset. Like I said I'm sorry, but it's not in the best interests of the coin to have someone on board who is so bitter, and doesn't trust me. Sorry things didn't work out.
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Cobra
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May 31, 2014, 07:19:57 AM |
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Please agree to tokyo's proposal HYPER dev
Why would I accept a proposal from someone who has no idea of the amount of work it takes to get a coin off the ground? Not interested. Sorry! Too much bad blood has been spilled over this to continue as fund manager.......especially after he calls the project a potential scam. I would have to side with HyperDev on this one and it is best to just part ways as it looks like there has been multiple mis-communications. HyperDev in my opinion has a very ambitious project in the works with the MMO and it was very exciting to brainstorm the details of this today via IRC. Hyper when mixed with an MMO will serve a great niche and has an exciting future ahead.
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Cohle
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May 31, 2014, 07:20:43 AM |
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Please agree to tokyo's proposal HYPER dev
THIS.
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tylerderden
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May 31, 2014, 07:22:11 AM |
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if you got 1.5 million coins why not pay the guy 125,000? No need to fuck up a good thing and get greedy.
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tokyoghetto
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May 31, 2014, 07:24:45 AM Last edit: May 31, 2014, 07:36:06 AM by tokyoghetto |
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Tokyoghetto I've had nothing but kind words to say about you.
I understand you're upset but a 125 000 HYPER fee (which you wanted to keep a secret) became far too much for the services offered.
If the agreement was public I would have honored it but you wanted 125K under the table.
You said my coin would never work without you, and I naively believed you.
I've been working day and night to get this coin to where it is today, so we can launch the MMO and other projects.
If I don't think something is in the best interests of this coin I will not just let it happen - I've put too much time, energy, cash investment and creativity into this coin to do anything which is not in the best interests of the project.
I'm sorry things didn't work out, and I'm sorry to hear you dumped my gesture of goodwill when this coin is just getting started.
I don't know if you have short term memory loss or are sleep deprived...but you agreed to my fee. because the fund became a CLOSE FUND "ie" only the devs got a cut of the profits, I was not obligated to disclose my fee to the public. Had the fund be PUBLIC "ie" listed on Cryptostocks, I would have shared my fee with the entire world. Just incase your memory loss kicks in again....YOU AGREED TO THE FEE. This is a classic case of greed. Coin gets listed on Bitrex, price jumps, you want to keep it all. Now no one should ever trust you with this project. I wondered why you wanted to keep the fund to yourself until the PoW period ended. You never intended on handing over the fund to me. 125k Hyper = about 12 BTC @ 10k Satoshi = about 6000 USD for three months of 24/7 trading. Where are you going to find a fund manager for 2000USD a month At least a good one with a public track record trading altcoins.?? Sorry but I had to expose you. This is a clear scam and a lot of hardworking people believed in you. Another sad day in the altcoin scene.
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HYPERfuture (OP)
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May 31, 2014, 07:25:04 AM |
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if you got 1.5 million coins why not pay the guy 125,000? No need to fuck up a good thing and get greedy.
The coins are for projects. Building an MMO is expensive. Sorry guys I'm not going to have Tokyoghetto on board after the things he has said. This might have a short term impact on the coin but I'm not worried. Unlike tokyoghetto, I bought up 100 000 HYPER when the price was ten times less because I believe in HYPER.
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tokyoghetto
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May 31, 2014, 07:25:48 AM |
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Please agree to tokyo's proposal HYPER dev
Why would I accept a proposal from someone who has no idea of the amount of work it takes to get a coin off the ground? And he dumped his gesture of goodwill from me? Not interested. Sorry! I don't think you know how property and ownership work. What I do with MY COINS is MY BUSINESS. What does it matter if I sold them, kept them, gave them away or wiped my ass with them....my coins my decision. I know your upset. Like I said I'm sorry, but it's not in the best interests of the coin to have someone on board who is so bitter, and doesn't trust me. Sorry things didn't work out. you broke the trust man. Of course I am bitter, what am I supposed to be, happy?
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tokyoghetto
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May 31, 2014, 07:27:01 AM |
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Please agree to tokyo's proposal HYPER dev
Why would I accept a proposal from someone who has no idea of the amount of work it takes to get a coin off the ground? Not interested. Sorry! Too much bad blood has been spilled over this to continue as fund manager.......especially after he calls the project a potential scam. I would have to side with HyperDev on this one and it is best to just part ways as it looks like there has been multiple mis-communications. HyperDev in my opinion has a very ambitious project in the works with the MMO and it was very exciting to brainstorm the details of this today via IRC. Hyper when mixed with an MMO will serve a great niche and has an exciting future ahead. Dude, there was no mis-communcation. We had a deal and he broke the deal. Its pretty clear to everyone.
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Vandalay23
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May 31, 2014, 07:27:20 AM |
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MEGADUMP on bittrex!!
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HYPERfuture (OP)
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May 31, 2014, 07:28:20 AM |
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MEGADUMP on bittrex!!
Tokyoghetto is selling all he has in spite. We'll bounce right back soon enough. Still 10x value from yesterday.
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tokyoghetto
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May 31, 2014, 07:29:56 AM |
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if you got 1.5 million coins why not pay the guy 125,000? No need to fuck up a good thing and get greedy.
The coins are for projects. Building an MMO is expensive. Sorry guys I'm not going to have Tokyoghetto on board after the things he has said. This might have a short term impact on the coin but I'm not worried. Unlike tokyoghetto, I bought up 100 000 HYPER when the price was ten times less because I believe in HYPER. Why do you think you took me on board in the first place. You recognized the talent. I generate results. Also we want a screenshot of you buying 100k of Hyper on either sharex or bitrex or you are just lying.
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tokyoghetto
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May 31, 2014, 07:32:39 AM |
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Remember kids, he still holds a 1.5 million premine. He went from wanting to give 500k for the fund to 100k to basically nothing.
Who are you going to trust? a Sr. Member with skin in the game and a solid rep, or a newbie "coin dev" with a 1.5 million premine?
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Collegestudent
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May 31, 2014, 07:33:57 AM |
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Dev, just agree to the proposal for the sake of it. Its nothing really.
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tylerderden
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May 31, 2014, 07:38:31 AM |
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first, i'll never understand the mentallity around here, people can make a lot of money and would rather piss it away because they think they will get rich RIGHT NOW, it's fuckin stupid and happens over and fucking over and over, nobody ever learns. fucking DERP.
Second, I don't understand any of you that create a new account and put a coin out and say trust me, why the fuck would we ever trust you?
Now this guy isn't hiding (tokyoghetto) people trust him and he's pretty much the only thing you have going for your coin and your going to hose him, publicly, after threatening to tell people about paying him (blackmail) and now we are all supposed to trust you?
whatever dude, your an idiot. time to dump.
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tokyoghetto
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May 31, 2014, 07:40:51 AM |
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Me leaving the fund just brought the price down from 16k satoshi to 5k satoshi.
Now imagine if I actually ran the fund. Its still not to late to make amends dev. My reaction of anger and bitter is justified, I am sure everyone will agree to that. But I am an adult and can look past this if you will.
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