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July 02, 2014, 08:01:12 PM
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If Jesus is lord of lords, why can't he defeat the devil? I mean Satan is a fallen angel, not even as powerful as a human. Yet he seems to be unbeatable.  Huh
since when is an human more powerful than an angel?? just wondering
Angels are sub-human and lesser beings. At least according to Catholicism and most Christian sects. It's confusing because modern westerners think of angels as more holy than humans. But they are traditionally considered simple messengers without free will. 
angels are not messengers they are higher beeings which sometimes act like messengers... do you really think humans have free will? maybe it is an illusion which the fallen one makes you belive

I thought a basic premise for christianity was the excistence of human free will, seeing as God reputedly wants us to choose to love him. If will is not free that whole thing is rather pointless, no?
i am not saying that humans dont have free will, i said what makes him believe, where believing is like speculating... i believe the price of a stock rises so i speculate and buy it...
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July 02, 2014, 08:08:10 PM
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religious, racist and other topics should not be present in this forum, just my oppinion.

You seem to be an open minded guy  Cheesy

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July 02, 2014, 08:13:35 PM
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If Jesus is lord of lords, why can't he defeat the devil? I mean Satan is a fallen angel, not even as powerful as a human. Yet he seems to be unbeatable.  Huh
since when is an human more powerful than an angel?? just wondering
Angels are sub-human and lesser beings. At least according to Catholicism and most Christian sects. It's confusing because modern westerners think of angels as more holy than humans. But they are traditionally considered simple messengers without free will. 
angels are not messengers they are higher beeings which sometimes act like messengers... do you really think humans have free will? maybe it is an illusion which the fallen one makes you belive

I thought a basic premise for christianity was the excistence of human free will, seeing as God reputedly wants us to choose to love him. If will is not free that whole thing is rather pointless, no?
i am not saying that humans dont have free will, i said what makes him believe, where believing is like speculating... i believe the price of a stock rises so i speculate and buy it...
anyways my point was that humans are mostly driven / steered by the animal instinct and not by free will
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July 03, 2014, 04:14:49 AM
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Render under Ceasar what is Ceasars,
And until Bitcoin what is Bitcoins...

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July 03, 2014, 09:19:47 PM
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So what does everyone think about a GodCoin. Crazy fundies could demand they not pay tax on it for religious reasons, cause the bible says they shouldn't.

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July 04, 2014, 03:30:37 AM
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All hail Pope Bob!
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