Bitcycle
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July 08, 2014, 11:50:25 AM |
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Crypto bubble is about to end. Trust is slowly fading away in this community (that goes for every coin), IPO scams, trolling/fudding, this is not what alt-currencies was meant to be about.
Greed is the worst disease known to man - it makes us do the most craziest things, and really this place is just like wall street 2.0. It does not represent freedom at all, only chaos.
All the respect to the XC team and atcsecure for the hard work. Sorry it had to end this way.
Sure, but this will just cause what's known as "the flight to quality". XC and a couple other coins are the quality. They're all that's going to survive the recent insanity.
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Queeq
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July 08, 2014, 11:51:43 AM |
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Rev 2 is functioning as expected on testnet.
Dan will keep releasing updates, and will let us know when it's ready for the mainnet.
We wouldn't want to risk your funds, so we will be exceedingly cautious about this. New and revolutionary technology means nothing to a person who loses his/her funds using it.
Nonetheless mainnet will be soon.
I understand that announcements can be perceived too radically, though it would be nice to know at least rough timeframe. The pessimistic one. Especially after everyone thought it was going to be ready for mainnet yesterday.
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Bitcycle
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July 08, 2014, 11:52:38 AM |
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So, as I predicted... Team is awake. FUD mysteriously disappears. (How does that happen? IDK ) Everyone who panic sold feels foolish. The panic sellers are also looking at some thin asks. Better buy back fast, kids.
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policymaker
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July 08, 2014, 11:54:44 AM |
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I have a question Guys
I bought many XC this morning and now i consider to stake them. But i am also not sure what will happen with xc price. So i would like to let em on exchange.
Somebody can tell me how much Xc profit u make for staking 2010XC in a day? Haven t found a formula to calculate or some experiences
Somebody replied already and I think he was spot on, you can look forward to something more than 1 xc per week. Morning all
After staying awake for 23 hours I've now got a few hours' sleep and would like to do my best to field questions about Rev 2.
First off, I am sincerely sorry for having let you all down. I appreciate how a late, testnet-only release has injured your faith in XC, in the team, and in ATCsecure. We're very sorry for both what happened and for how we handled it. Down to the last 30 minutes we all believed, as most of you did, that the release would come out in time. If we had not thought this, then we would have informed you as early as possible about a delay and taken the hit. But we did believe it would be released. Unfortunately there was a single issue with the mainnet compile, that Dan identified and understood, yet that would take too long to resolve.
The broader reason for not having released on time are circumstances over the weekend that have nothing to do with development, severe in nature, and private to the affected person, which unavoidably took up the majority of this person's time. It's frustrating, but in a small team these sorts of events have a large effect. Nonetheless we were confident that the release would be out in time, but some minor details (and our complete unwillingness to risk your funds) prevented it.
But what we have achieved is nonetheless a world first. Until today, there has never been a decentralised trustless mixer. And now there is, in the app you downloaded today.
I've been saying for a while that XC is not semi-centralised, therefore no "security bottleneck" in the form of supernodes.
Well, with Rev 2 every singe wallet is automatically an Xnode. It's completely decentralised.
This should address people's questions about how to set up an Xnode in Rev 2. It's set up already. Just start testing it, and track what it does in the blockchain.
Updates will be very frequent and the app will go onto the mainnet in due course.
We're also unveiling the promised announcements today and tomorrow, and they're no less positive.
Enjoy what's good about the situation: a world-first that in fact surpasses the Xnode/normal node distinction, which is better than what we stated we'd release. This, plus the fact that XC's fundamentals are the same, plus the news we have to share with you later today, paints a very optimistic picture.
Ask me as many questions as you like. I can't promise to be able to answer all of them, since I'm not the dev, but I'll try.
Humbly,
Arlyn
You guys have done a great job, don't listen to any1. I feel like most people here are living in their own fictional crypto-bubble. I am an experienced PC user and having been a gamer for the most part of my life, I am just TOO familiar with BIG, FUCKING MULTIBILLION software companies underdelivering/overpromising and fukin their clients over and over again. You are trying to revolutionize a whole freaking scene here, not release a fucking game, and yet people lose it and go ape shit with every freaking inconvenience. My only regret is being all in and not being able to purchase more of XC. That's my only real concern right now. What I do not regret, is NOT being in Dan's team. These guys work their ass off, and at every small misstep they hear it from 80% of the fucking "community". Team has immense cohones and stomach. To all our "friends" and "longtime holders", a sincere FUCK YOU for losing ur faith on some FREAKING 5 POST FUD ACCOUNTS. SRSLY. If I had 1 month worth more of experience in this scene id manipulate the shit out of you in losing all your money and I would buy you over 3 times till XC got mainstream. Im not saying, dont critisice the team on missteps and under-delivering, but BE JUST and provide constructive critisism for the love of GOD. 5 POST FUD ACCOUNTS FOR THE FUK OF GOD.Thank you team for all your hard work, im still boarding the moon train.
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Mountaingoat
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July 08, 2014, 11:57:03 AM |
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I just don't hope that XC will become another LTC, I hope it gets way better.
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July 08, 2014, 11:57:26 AM |
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Hello all.
NONE of us is going to get rich over night.
Peace! -N
I'm sorry but this could save it "NONE of us is going to get rich over night." from 305000 sold at 155000? 50% of the value? I want to see what will happen in the next few days, so be written in the alt history books.
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albertdros
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July 08, 2014, 11:59:13 AM |
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Crypto bubble is about to end. Trust is slowly fading away in this community (that goes for every coin), IPO scams, trolling/fudding, this is not what alt-currencies was meant to be about.
Greed is the worst disease known to man - it makes us do the most craziest things, and really this place is just like wall street 2.0. It does not represent freedom at all, only chaos.
All the respect to the XC team and atcsecure for the hard work. Sorry it had to end this way.
Sold at 155000? I think what you meant to say is "no respect at all as I try to trash the thing you're devoting your time to". There I corrected that for you. No my friend, I sold already. What I meant to say was that people seem to overlook the potential of XC. Unfortunately this crypto community is evil and don't respect the hard work due to greed, and they are only in this to feed their ego. Your Recent Trades TIME TYPE PRICE XC TOTAL FEE NET TOTAL 2014-07-07 00:21:24 SELL 0.00283090 124.24882124 0.35173598 0.00052760 0.35120838 2014-07-07 00:20:31 SELL 0.00283080 1763.46332875 4.99201199 0.00748801 4.98452398 2014-07-07 00:20:27 SELL 0.00283151 135.41185536 0.38342002 0.00057513 0.38284489 2014-07-07 00:20:24 SELL 0.00285000 59.66537177 0.17004630 0.00025506 0.16979124 2014-07-07 00:19:47 SELL 0.00283140 47.45709267 0.13437001 0.00020155 0.13416846 2014-07-06 23:20:49 SELL 0.00303500 22.03624382 0.06688000 0.00010031 0.06677969 2014-07-06 23:19:30 SELL 0.00301000 50.00000000 0.15050000 0.00022575 0.15027425 2014-07-06 23:19:29 SELL 0.00303500 0.99999998 0.00303499 0.00000455 0.00303044 2014-07-06 23:19:27 SELL 0.00303500 51.76146622 0.15709605 0.00023564 0.15686041 2014-07-06 23:19:16 SELL 0.00304000 55.50776375 0.16874361 0.00025311 0.16849050 2014-07-06 23:19:16 SELL 0.00304000 55.50776375 0.16874361 0.00025311 0.16849050 2014-07-06 23:17:32 SELL 0.00303501 1.00000000 0.00303501 0.00000455 0.00303046 2014-07-06 23:17:26 SELL 0.00303500 1.00000000 0.00303500 0.00000455 0.00303045 2014-07-06 23:17:11 SELL 0.00303499 0.99507870 0.00302005 0.00000453 0.00301552 2014-07-06 23:16:58 SELL 0.00305000 0.00492130 0.00001501 0.00000002 0.00001499 2014-07-06 23:16:53 SELL 0.00305000 0.99507870 0.00303499 0.00000455 0.00303044 2014-07-06 23:16:53 SELL 0.00303499 1.00000000 0.00303499 0.00000455 0.00303044 2014-07-06 23:16:39 SELL 0.00305000 4.39285573 0.01339821 0.00002009 0.01337812 2014-07-06 23:16:39 SELL 0.00303499 1.00000000 0.00303499 0.00000455 0.00303044 2014-07-06 23:16:27 SELL 0.00303499 1.00000000 0.00303499 0.00000455 0.00303044 2014-07-06 23:16:16 SELL 0.00305000 94.61206557 0.28856680 0.00043286 0.28813394 2014-07-06 23:13:11 SELL 0.00304999 16.00000000 0.04879984 0.00007319 0.04872665 2014-07-06 23:13:11 SELL 0.00304777 60.00000000 0.18286620 0.00027429 0.18259191 2014-07-06 23:13:11 SELL 0.00303900 52.22484600 0.15871130 0.00023806 0.15847324 where is your rebuy at 16k? You still have time.
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the_game1224
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July 08, 2014, 11:59:57 AM |
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I've been saying for a while that XC is not semi-centralised, therefore no "security bottleneck" in the form of supernodes.
Well, with Rev 2 every singe wallet is automatically an Xnode. It's completely decentralised.
This should address people's questions about how to set up an Xnode in Rev 2. It's set up already. Just start testing it, and track what it does in the blockchain.
This is ridiculously huge news Exactly and makes running an Xnode super easy! Which is great. Bingo!
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July 08, 2014, 12:00:14 PM |
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[snip]
From what I gather you are a self-proclaimed PR "manager" that has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can. How can there be a compile issue that prevents releasing a wallet. If you are working on a software project, in a unnmanaged language like C++ which the wallet is made in you write code, compile, test and repeat which means there must have been intermediate versions all along or THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY WORKING MAINNET IMPLEMENTATION EVER, AT ALL which is the most plausible situation given that ridiciolous and stupid explaination you've made. I won't even go and touch the issue of "announcements of annoucements" which is nothing but pure market manipulation and not done in any good faith. You have reason to be frustrated, so I won't begrudge you that. self-proclaimed PR "manager" -
No. I'm not a manager. My job title is "PR and media liaison". has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can
I will let you judge my work as you wish, and I'll respect those judgements. However I disagree. Dear Synechist, Even if this whole project fails (witch it won't) it has been worth my while. The Coolness and wisdom with witch you reply to every post is truly inspiring. I think we can all learn (at least) that from you. Keep up the Coolness good work! Thank you. Much appreciated. I'll try to improve by not creating the impression that I hype things. In my opinion I've only talked about the fundamentals, but perhaps being excited about them isn't appropriate in some circumstances. For example I've previously informed people in advance that there'll be an announcement so that those not online at the time get a chance to hear the news. Some people perceive this as hyping an announcement. Though this is true respecting the fact that people resultantly get excited, that is, "hyped", about the announcement, it's not true that informing people in advance is hyping. The hype is in the excited people, not in the information. But this doesn't mean I should necessarily carry on doing things this way. I'll think this over. Well, I guess it also depends on what you think the purpose of the actual announcement should be. Maybe it's better to "inform" then to "announce" where the difference is in the moment of communication. I'm afraid that every "announcement" up front will always create hype. Informing them at 0 hour would prevent that. But than again....
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qawzsx
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NOT FUD! FACTS!
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July 08, 2014, 12:00:33 PM |
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Lets all test the new wallet and offer a nice feedback about it instead of talking "money" on forum...
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CryptoGretzky
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July 08, 2014, 12:01:01 PM |
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Some transactions from someone that thinks he's a BIGSHOT because he sold 2600 XC (removed)
You are kidding right? You have only 2600 XC... and I thought you sold enough to cause the price to plummet from 300 to 155... LOL. Back to your mom's basement....
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July 08, 2014, 12:07:14 PM |
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It is understandable why people are expressing frustration on this thread. No one likes to lose out on trading.
However, it is this natural history of all coins to go through cycles of pumps and dumps.
For people who have made and crystallized their profits, well done. For those who have made a loss, please take your time to review XC and possibly also compare it to other alts.
I've found, and I hope you too will find, that XC is by far the most advanced and pragmatic currency and platform in its field.
I do not wish to speculate the value of XC, I'll leave that to each individual. Once you have made a personal valuation, pumps and dumps are irrelevant in the medium to long term prospects. I hope my comment helps reassure and comfort those who currently need it.
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July 08, 2014, 12:11:53 PM |
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[snip]
From what I gather you are a self-proclaimed PR "manager" that has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can. How can there be a compile issue that prevents releasing a wallet. If you are working on a software project, in a unnmanaged language like C++ which the wallet is made in you write code, compile, test and repeat which means there must have been intermediate versions all along or THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY WORKING MAINNET IMPLEMENTATION EVER, AT ALL which is the most plausible situation given that ridiciolous and stupid explaination you've made. I won't even go and touch the issue of "announcements of annoucements" which is nothing but pure market manipulation and not done in any good faith. You have reason to be frustrated, so I won't begrudge you that. self-proclaimed PR "manager" -
No. I'm not a manager. My job title is "PR and media liaison". has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can
I will let you judge my work as you wish, and I'll respect those judgements. However I disagree. Dear Synechist, Even if this whole project fails (witch it won't) it has been worth my while. The Coolness and wisdom with witch you reply to every post is truly inspiring. I think we can all learn (at least) that from you. Keep up the Coolness good work! Thank you. Much appreciated. I'll try to improve by not creating the impression that I hype things. In my opinion I've only talked about the fundamentals, but perhaps being excited about them isn't appropriate in some circumstances. For example I've previously informed people in advance that there'll be an announcement so that those not online at the time get a chance to hear the news. Some people perceive this as hyping an announcement. Though this is true respecting the fact that people resultantly get excited, that is, "hyped", about the announcement, it's not true that informing people in advance is hyping. The hype is in the excited people, not in the information. But this doesn't mean I should necessarily carry on doing things this way. I'll think this over. When you announce that there is going to be an announcement, could you give us a window, i.e. "I'll be making an announcement today between 2pm and 4pm est". like most ppl, i like to get that info live, If you could provide a 2 to 4 hour window, I think that would be much appreciated!
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synechist
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July 08, 2014, 12:14:36 PM |
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[snip]
From what I gather you are a self-proclaimed PR "manager" that has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can. How can there be a compile issue that prevents releasing a wallet. If you are working on a software project, in a unnmanaged language like C++ which the wallet is made in you write code, compile, test and repeat which means there must have been intermediate versions all along or THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY WORKING MAINNET IMPLEMENTATION EVER, AT ALL which is the most plausible situation given that ridiciolous and stupid explaination you've made. I won't even go and touch the issue of "announcements of annoucements" which is nothing but pure market manipulation and not done in any good faith. You have reason to be frustrated, so I won't begrudge you that. self-proclaimed PR "manager" -
No. I'm not a manager. My job title is "PR and media liaison". has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can
I will let you judge my work as you wish, and I'll respect those judgements. However I disagree. Dear Synechist, Even if this whole project fails (witch it won't) it has been worth my while. The Coolness and wisdom with witch you reply to every post is truly inspiring. I think we can all learn (at least) that from you. Keep up the Coolness good work! Thank you. Much appreciated. I'll try to improve by not creating the impression that I hype things. In my opinion I've only talked about the fundamentals, but perhaps being excited about them isn't appropriate in some circumstances. For example I've previously informed people in advance that there'll be an announcement so that those not online at the time get a chance to hear the news. Some people perceive this as hyping an announcement. Though this is true respecting the fact that people resultantly get excited, that is, "hyped", about the announcement, it's not true that informing people in advance is hyping. The hype is in the excited people, not in the information. But this doesn't mean I should necessarily carry on doing things this way. I'll think this over. When you announce that there is going to be an announcement, could you give us a window, i.e. "I'll be making an announcement today between 2pm and 4pm est". like most ppl, i like to get that info live, If you could provide a 2 to 4 hour window, I think that would be much appreciated! That's a decent idea.
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qawzsx
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July 08, 2014, 12:15:07 PM |
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[snip]
From what I gather you are a self-proclaimed PR "manager" that has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can. How can there be a compile issue that prevents releasing a wallet. If you are working on a software project, in a unnmanaged language like C++ which the wallet is made in you write code, compile, test and repeat which means there must have been intermediate versions all along or THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY WORKING MAINNET IMPLEMENTATION EVER, AT ALL which is the most plausible situation given that ridiciolous and stupid explaination you've made. I won't even go and touch the issue of "announcements of annoucements" which is nothing but pure market manipulation and not done in any good faith. You have reason to be frustrated, so I won't begrudge you that. self-proclaimed PR "manager" -
No. I'm not a manager. My job title is "PR and media liaison". has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can
I will let you judge my work as you wish, and I'll respect those judgements. However I disagree. Dear Synechist, Even if this whole project fails (witch it won't) it has been worth my while. The Coolness and wisdom with witch you reply to every post is truly inspiring. I think we can all learn (at least) that from you. Keep up the Coolness good work! Thank you. Much appreciated. I'll try to improve by not creating the impression that I hype things. In my opinion I've only talked about the fundamentals, but perhaps being excited about them isn't appropriate in some circumstances. For example I've previously informed people in advance that there'll be an announcement so that those not online at the time get a chance to hear the news. Some people perceive this as hyping an announcement. Though this is true respecting the fact that people resultantly get excited, that is, "hyped", about the announcement, it's not true that informing people in advance is hyping. The hype is in the excited people, not in the information. But this doesn't mean I should necessarily carry on doing things this way. I'll think this over. When you announce that there is going to be an announcement, could you give us a window, i.e. "I'll be making an announcement today between 2pm and 4pm est". like most ppl, i like to get that info live, If you could provide a 2 to 4 hour window, I think that would be much appreciated! rockstahh, fuck of already...still crying about this is pure retardness.... Instead of this you could test the wallet a bit and give your feedback...
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jay_pilch
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July 08, 2014, 12:20:22 PM |
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[snip]
From what I gather you are a self-proclaimed PR "manager" that has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can. How can there be a compile issue that prevents releasing a wallet. If you are working on a software project, in a unnmanaged language like C++ which the wallet is made in you write code, compile, test and repeat which means there must have been intermediate versions all along or THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY WORKING MAINNET IMPLEMENTATION EVER, AT ALL which is the most plausible situation given that ridiciolous and stupid explaination you've made. I won't even go and touch the issue of "announcements of annoucements" which is nothing but pure market manipulation and not done in any good faith. You have reason to be frustrated, so I won't begrudge you that. self-proclaimed PR "manager" -
No. I'm not a manager. My job title is "PR and media liaison". has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can
I will let you judge my work as you wish, and I'll respect those judgements. However I disagree. Dear Synechist, Even if this whole project fails (witch it won't) it has been worth my while. The Coolness and wisdom with witch you reply to every post is truly inspiring. I think we can all learn (at least) that from you. Keep up the Coolness good work! Thank you. Much appreciated. I'll try to improve by not creating the impression that I hype things. In my opinion I've only talked about the fundamentals, but perhaps being excited about them isn't appropriate in some circumstances. For example I've previously informed people in advance that there'll be an announcement so that those not online at the time get a chance to hear the news. Some people perceive this as hyping an announcement. Though this is true respecting the fact that people resultantly get excited, that is, "hyped", about the announcement, it's not true that informing people in advance is hyping. The hype is in the excited people, not in the information. But this doesn't mean I should necessarily carry on doing things this way. I'll think this over. When you announce that there is going to be an announcement, could you give us a window, i.e. "I'll be making an announcement today between 2pm and 4pm est". like most ppl, i like to get that info live, If you could provide a 2 to 4 hour window, I think that would be much appreciated! rockstahh, fuck of already...still crying about this is pure retardness.... Instead of this you could test the wallet a bit and give your feedback... That is a very reasonable request. Your reply is pretty aggressive and unwarranted.
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the_game1224
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July 08, 2014, 12:24:40 PM |
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Lets all test the new wallet and offer a nice feedback about it instead of talking "money" on forum...
Agreed. New wallet is syncing now. What needs to be tested? How do we get coins for use on testnet?
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Teka (OP)
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July 08, 2014, 12:26:12 PM |
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Lets all test the new wallet and offer a nice feedback about it instead of talking "money" on forum...
Agreed. New wallet is syncing now. What needs to be tested? How do we get coins for use on testnet? You can mine since the dificulty in the testnet is extremely low. Basically spam as many anon transaction as you want and see what happens
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July 08, 2014, 12:27:54 PM |
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Stupid question...
but how do i get my client to work in testnet?
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qawzsx
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July 08, 2014, 12:27:58 PM |
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Lets all test the new wallet and offer a nice feedback about it instead of talking "money" on forum...
Agreed. New wallet is syncing now. What needs to be tested? How do we get coins for use on testnet? You can mine since the dificulty in the testnet is extremely low. Basically spam as many anon transaction as you want and see what happens Yes, get some coins in testnet and spam transactions...
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