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Question: Should bitcointalk account trading be banned  (Voting closed: June 03, 2014, 05:51:45 PM)
Yes, it just gives scammers a head start - 30 (53.6%)
No, its the account owners choice - 26 (46.4%)
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June 02, 2014, 10:39:11 AM
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Pretty close vote. I'm surprised, seems a pretty even-sided debate here. I can definitely understand why it can't be effectively enforced. One of those situations where a "ban" wouldn't really do anything.

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June 02, 2014, 11:46:15 AM
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Pretty close vote. I'm surprised, seems a pretty even-sided debate here. I can definitely understand why it can't be effectively enforced. One of those situations where a "ban" wouldn't really do anything.

I think people who voted "NO" are trying to sell their accounts Cheesy

Heh... well let see what the future votes will bring to us. And I hope selling accounts on this forum will be not legal thing to do one day.
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June 02, 2014, 01:34:32 PM
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Pretty close vote. I'm surprised, seems a pretty even-sided debate here. I can definitely understand why it can't be effectively enforced. One of those situations where a "ban" wouldn't really do anything.

You can't really go based on the polls. Even though Theymos changed them, people can still use accounts with a rank higher than Jr. and vote more with different accounts.
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June 02, 2014, 02:16:17 PM
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There's people that sells accounts with positive trust, scammers would want to buy them to scam money. People would trust those who have a higher rank, older account age and trust. Selling those accounts can result in higher scam rates. I don't think there is a way to stop account trading, it is difficult to track the owners.

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June 02, 2014, 06:22:53 PM
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I don't think there is a way to stop account trading, it is difficult to track the owners.

i think that is the key here.

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June 02, 2014, 08:00:07 PM
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Pretty close vote. I'm surprised, seems a pretty even-sided debate here. I can definitely understand why it can't be effectively enforced. One of those situations where a "ban" wouldn't really do anything.

I think people who voted "NO" are trying to sell their accounts Cheesy

Heh... well let see what the future votes will bring to us. And I hope selling accounts on this forum will be not legal thing to do one day.

Or buy some. Its a very difficult issues to track and ban as users can simply say they changed IPs when they sell their accounts.
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June 02, 2014, 08:34:40 PM
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I think there should be official channels so that we are able to see when an account changes ownership if bitcointalk is going to allow account trading.

Barring that I'd vote for banning account trading.

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June 02, 2014, 08:46:07 PM
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Since you can't stop people selling accounts, it would be better to focus on informing the newbs that they shouldn't trust anyone based on age of account, rank or trust rating.
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June 03, 2014, 12:47:12 AM
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I use to moderate a digital currency/trading forum through 07-10 and creditable accounts were hacked or sold and i've only seen them used fraudulently. I'm surprised it is currently allowed and this is the only forum I've ever registered to that does allow it.

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June 03, 2014, 12:56:30 AM
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Since you can't stop people selling accounts, it would be better to focus on informing the newbs that they shouldn't trust anyone based on age of account, rank or trust rating.

I agree with that.
People can trade their accounts off the site (on FB, Twitter, other sites, etc.), and there is really no way to stop account trading.
It is IMO better to expose the risk rather than to hide it.

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June 03, 2014, 12:59:52 AM
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My own opinion is yes, It should be banned, But there is no real way to enforce this, And any account does have digital rights to the owner, They are free to trade it if so desired.

Why I say yes? Purely due to the nature of what the account represents, Its not a character in a game, This is your account of your thoughts, Getting to know people and maybe some trading between people, Selling your account is not just a leap for new people to come in at a represented level, It is easier for the new person to "assume" you! and if it goes wrong, the person selling the account would have to prove it was not them, It just gets messy from there.
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June 03, 2014, 12:43:42 PM
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Hi,
In my opinion trading accounts on btctalk must be forbidden. There is no more newbie prison so there is no reason to trade your account. It is for sure a head start for the scammers. If some one is offering his account or buying accounts a moderator must ban him forever.
BR
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June 03, 2014, 01:12:57 PM
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Ban them so they can just go buy another account? Probably 99% of accounts bought are done so for signature deals. You don't need to buy an account to scam.

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June 03, 2014, 06:51:12 PM
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Hi,
In my opinion trading accounts on btctalk must be forbidden. There is no more newbie prison so there is no reason to trade your account. It is for sure a head start for the scammers. If some one is offering his account or buying accounts a moderator must ban him forever.
BR

It isn't only for scammers, you need high lvl account for signature posting too.

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June 03, 2014, 06:56:11 PM
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What is the minimum amount of time you could go from newb to full member in?
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June 03, 2014, 06:57:14 PM
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What is the minimum amount of time you could go from newb to full member in?

About 4 months.

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June 03, 2014, 07:01:22 PM
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What is the minimum amount of time you could go from newb to full member in?

About 4 months.

So there's only about one months difference between buying an account and selling your sig (before breaking even) and levelling one.

I suppose it's easier though...
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June 03, 2014, 07:08:43 PM
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What is the minimum amount of time you could go from newb to full member in?

You need to post in 9 two week periods, so if you created a new account today you'd be a Full Member on 16th of Sept providing you made enough posts obviously.

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June 03, 2014, 07:11:43 PM
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What is the minimum amount of time you could go from newb to full member in?

You need to post in 9 two week periods, so if you created a new account today you'd be a Full Member on 16th of Sept providing you made enough posts obviously.

Thank you. I was just trying to establish if it's profitable to buy accounts rather than just level one. It is slightly.
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June 03, 2014, 07:14:27 PM
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Depends how much you value your time. You'd have to deal with the newbie posting limits as well. Buying them would be easier and save you several months as long as you're willing to front the cash.

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