[CLOSED] Monbux's Escrow Services | Since 2014 | Security Upgrade | Legendary |

[alfonshudding]

Hello, so I've been trading from a person on telegram named @visesento (he is the scammer). We both agreed on the deal, 1000$ movocash for 350$ btc. As we both were unsure about trustness, he offered to hire Monbux. We both wrote an email to him, asking if he can help us to trade safely. Provided details, offer and our telegram ID's. He (@MonbuxBitcointalk) created telegram group within like 10 minutes. Then, where my lack of knowledge occured - he sent me a PGP signed message, which I checked on keybase.io/verify :

Monbux Bitcointalk, [04.07.20 20:00]
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
Version: Keybase OpenPGP v1.0.5
Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto

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+UL1+94J5qv2cfFfvlD7HQDC5Qcd
=+hQf
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----



Putting this message in it shows, that the message is signed by monbus (?) . So this is where I fucked up, not sure how this works.
After this, I've sent BTC to his address ( transaction ID :https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/be618f8c287069dc2cec573070498e90455e3a66d78bcdac5a983a3ad2057882 )
Then, ofc, even after confirmations I didn't get my movocash from the seller. Started asking questions, no response. No response from guy, acting as escrow and no response from the seller.
Today he magicly replied, but only when other guy contacted him ( here is SS, how I managed to reach 'monbux' : https://prnt.sc/tdc7z9 , https://prnt.sc/tdc8mm , https://prnt.sc/tdc926 ) .
And later all our conversation (https://prnt.sc/tdcaw3 , https://prnt.sc/tdcbbr , https://prnt.sc/tdcbmq , https://prnt.sc/tdcbwr , https://prnt.sc/tdcc68 , https://prnt.sc/tdccfp ,  https://prnt.sc/tdccl7 , https://prnt.sc/tdccvc ,  https://prnt.sc/tdcd21 , https://prnt.sc/tdcda4 , https://prnt.sc/tdcdl4 , https://prnt.sc/tdcdu0 ,  https://prnt.sc/tdce0j , https://prnt.sc/tdcehk  ), coins weren't sent yet to other address,  but I am already sure, that I've been scammed.


so guys, watch out and don't make same mistake as I've did.

P.S. Monbux, can you explain how this PGP works?

[nutildah]

Hello, so I've been trading from a person on telegram named @visesento (he is the scammer). We both agreed on the deal, 1000$ movocash for 350$ btc. As we both were unsure about trustness, he offered to hire Monbux. We both wrote an email to him, asking if he can help us to trade safely. Provided details, offer and our telegram ID's. He (@MonbuxBitcointalk) created telegram group within like 10 minutes. Then, where my lack of knowledge occured - he sent me a PGP signed message, which I checked on keybase.io/verify :

(snipped)

What happened was the scammer sent a signed message that was already in the keybase of the real monbux.

The signed text actually reads this:

Code:

{"body":{"cryptocurrency":{"address":"1Q2CupiU5DfWupRGBQ66QYRqvxoNxGZCcn","type":"bitcoin"},"key":{"fingerprint":"4a9aa15044a68891085cba95fe28a8b97bac8955","host":"keybase.io","key_id":"fe28a8b97bac8955","uid":"4eba68153623310300502fc55ab47300","username":"monbux"},"type":"cryptocurrency","version":1},"ctime":1411319918,"expire_in":157680000,"prev":null,"seqno":1,"tag":"signature"}

It was signed in September 2014. I suggest you only deal with escrow services on the forum and not Telegram going forward.

There is a Scam Accusation against this user here (I have forwarded your post there already). If you need help opening a red flag on this user to alert other forum members that this guy is a scammer, let me know and I'll show you how to do that.


The real @monbux should change the title of this thread to INACTIVE and lock it as scammers pretending to be him have now stolen far more BTC than he made acting as an escrow during the last 2-3 years.

If you ever receive a Telegram message about using monbux as an escrow, it is a scammer! The person you are chatting with is a scammer, and the person pretending to be monbux on TG is a scammer.

Do you see any mention of Telegram as a method of contact listed here?

Contact Methods

(in order from most effective to least effective):

1. Bitcointalk Private Message
2. Posting on this thread (if you do this you should also send a PM)
2. Gmail: monbux.bitcointalk@gmail.com

No! He doesn't deal through Telegram. Also, he won't email you first. So if you receive an email from monbux out of the blue, it is 100% likely to be a scammer.

[nutildah]

Unfortunately I fell for this SCAM. I came to read about this topic when it was late. He ran off with 3k BTC from me.

Can you leave a screenshot and telegram name?

Somebody just messaged you on telegram and not the forum I'm guessing.

Your first mistake was not making them contact you on forum.

Your second mistake was assuming Monbux was an active escrow and agreeing to "hire" him (actually it was his impostor) before reading his escrow thread.

[Timelord2067]

I'll be home around this time tomorrow (it's my weekend away) so I am unavailable to check pgp, can you quote what the decoded message says?

[Timelord2067]

Hello, so I've been trading from a person on telegram named @visesento (he is the scammer). We both agreed on the deal, 1000$ movocash for 350$ btc. As we both were unsure about trustness, he offered to hire Monbux. We both wrote an email to him, asking if he can help us to trade safely. Provided details, offer and our telegram ID's. He (@MonbuxBitcointalk) created telegram group within like 10 minutes. Then, where my lack of knowledge occured - he sent me a PGP signed message, which I checked on keybase.io/verify :

Monbux Bitcointalk, [04.07.20 20:00]
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
Version: Keybase OpenPGP v1.0.5
Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto

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=+hQf
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----



Putting this message in it shows, that the message is signed by monbus (?) . So this is where I fucked up, not sure how this works.
After this, I've sent BTC to his address ( transaction ID :https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/be618f8c287069dc2cec573070498e90455e3a66d78bcdac5a983a3ad2057882 )
Then, ofc, even after confirmations I didn't get my movocash from the seller. Started asking questions, no response. No response from guy, acting as escrow and no response from the seller.
Today he magicly replied, but only when other guy contacted him ( here is SS, how I managed to reach 'monbux' : https://prnt.sc/tdc7z9 , https://prnt.sc/tdc8mm , https://prnt.sc/tdc926 ) .
And later all our conversation (https://prnt.sc/tdcaw3 , https://prnt.sc/tdcbbr , https://prnt.sc/tdcbmq , https://prnt.sc/tdcbwr , https://prnt.sc/tdcc68 , https://prnt.sc/tdccfp ,  https://prnt.sc/tdccl7 , https://prnt.sc/tdccvc ,  https://prnt.sc/tdcd21 , https://prnt.sc/tdcda4 , https://prnt.sc/tdcdl4 , https://prnt.sc/tdcdu0 ,  https://prnt.sc/tdce0j , https://prnt.sc/tdcehk  ), coins weren't sent yet to other address,  but I am already sure, that I've been scammed.


so guys, watch out and don't make same mistake as I've did.

P.S. Monbux, can you explain how this PGP works?

Message verifies as being sent by Monbux:



Kleopatra says:

{"body":{"cryptocurrency":{"address":"1Q2CupiU5DfWupRGBQ66QYRqvxoNxGZCcn","type":"bitcoin"},"key":{"fingerprint":"4a9aa15044a68891085cba95fe28a8b97bac8955","host":"keybase.io","key_id":"fe28a8b97bac8955","uid":"4eba68153623310300502fc55ab47300","username":"monbux"},"type":"cryptocurrency","version":1},"ctime":1411319918,"expire_in":157680000,"prev":null,"seqno":1,"tag":"signature"}

monbux has been online this week: Archive [1a], [1b]

Name:    monbux
Posts:    8566
Activity:    1722
Merit:    1019
Position:    Legendary
Date Registered:    29 June 2013, 10:14:42
Last Active:    12 September 2020, 10:15:54

so they are choosing to ignore this thread/posts.

[Mike7287]

hi i want your escrow service.

[nutildah]

hi i want your escrow service.

Monbux is no longer an escrow. If somebody contacts you on Telegram claiming to be Monbux, they are a scammer.

The real Monbux needs to lock this thread as its only purpose for the last couple years has been to help scammers.

It's a bit irresponsible of him to continue leaving the thread unlocked at this point.

[Liberty_c]

Hi got a telegram mesage from Monbux about escrow at @Bubuk_btc, can you confirm it is you?

[Timelord2067]

I trust that service who say not anymore working? I don't see monbux saying its not active.
I remember monbux and he is one of the most trusted people I ever meet.

I doubt it - activity zero... [1a], [1b]

What's your previous alts??

Hi got a telegram mesage from Monbux about escrow at @Bubuk_btc, can you confirm it is you?

It's unlikely to be Monbux - they have logged in a couple of times, but people have posted similar questions which go unanswered.

[nutildah]

Hi got a telegram mesage from Monbux about escrow at @Bubuk_btc, can you confirm it is you?

If read 2 posts up from yours you'd have known that you were talking to a scammer.

I'm going to red tag Monbux until he closes this thread as a warning for those who talk with scammer impersonators on Telegram or email.

Some possess the ethos that it is better to let people be scammed as to let natural selection run its course and weed out the weak, but I am not such a person.

Fact: Monbux hasn't performed an escrow deal on the forum for a year and a half. Even though they log in from time to time their lack of communication in this thread renders them ipso facto inactive.

MONBUX IS NO LONGER AN ESCROW UNTIL THEY CONFIRM HERE OTHERWISE.

[Liberty_c]

I can see he was active in september

Go to hell scammer ! Can confirm Monbux is no longer an escrow! Don't trust this CyanJohn comments, he is trying to scam people with fake Monbux telegram and pgp signature!

[monbux]

Hi everyone,

I took a hiatus from Bitcointalk and cryptocurrency over the past few years and am saddened to come back to see so many impersonators successfully scamming multiple users on here. I've posted multiple warnings over the past few years about impersonators - I have never used or owned a Telegram account and will never email you first.

It's really frustrating to read the recent posts here to know that if I had set this thread to INACTIVE/CLOSED, certain scams may have been prevented. I deeply apologize for not being more proactive - life got in the way and I've been inactive in this community since 2018.

That being said, you need to be extremely cautious when dealing with strangers on the internet. I have never mentioned that I use Telegram, so not sure why people are so trusting of someone with the same name there, without receiving verification from my account on bitcointalk. I've posted multiple warnings over the past few years, including in the OP regarding scammers and impersator activity.

PGP messages have no use if you don't know how to verify them. Conduct due diligence when engaging in transactions online, make sure you get confirmation AT THE SOURCE.

Hello, so I've been trading from a person on telegram named @visesento (he is the scammer). We both agreed on the deal, 1000$ movocash for 350$ btc. As we both were unsure about trustness, he offered to hire Monbux. We both wrote an email to him, asking if he can help us to trade safely. Provided details, offer and our telegram ID's. He (@MonbuxBitcointalk) created telegram group within like 10 minutes. Then, where my lack of knowledge occured - he sent me a PGP signed message, which I checked on keybase.io/verify :

Monbux Bitcointalk, [04.07.20 20:00]
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
Version: Keybase OpenPGP v1.0.5
Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto

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+UL1+94J5qv2cfFfvlD7HQDC5Qcd
=+hQf
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----



Putting this message in it shows, that the message is signed by monbus (?) . So this is where I fucked up, not sure how this works.
After this, I've sent BTC to his address ( transaction ID :https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/be618f8c287069dc2cec573070498e90455e3a66d78bcdac5a983a3ad2057882 )
Then, ofc, even after confirmations I didn't get my movocash from the seller. Started asking questions, no response. No response from guy, acting as escrow and no response from the seller.
Today he magicly replied, but only when other guy contacted him ( here is SS, how I managed to reach 'monbux' : https://prnt.sc/tdc7z9 , https://prnt.sc/tdc8mm , https://prnt.sc/tdc926 ) .
And later all our conversation (https://prnt.sc/tdcaw3 , https://prnt.sc/tdcbbr , https://prnt.sc/tdcbmq , https://prnt.sc/tdcbwr , https://prnt.sc/tdcc68 , https://prnt.sc/tdccfp ,  https://prnt.sc/tdccl7 , https://prnt.sc/tdccvc ,  https://prnt.sc/tdcd21 , https://prnt.sc/tdcda4 , https://prnt.sc/tdcdl4 , https://prnt.sc/tdcdu0 ,  https://prnt.sc/tdce0j , https://prnt.sc/tdcehk  ), coins weren't sent yet to other address,  but I am already sure, that I've been scammed.


so guys, watch out and don't make same mistake as I've did.

P.S. Monbux, can you explain how this PGP works?

Thanks @nutildah for explaining - yes, it seems like this is a PGP message I signed 6+ years ago with my old address (1Q2CupiU5DfWupRGBQ66QYRqvxoNxGZCcn). It shows as verified because the scammer put the text "Monbux Bitcointalk, [04.07.20 20:00]" OUTSIDE the PGP signed message, so it was ignored by the verifier. Try putting anything outside of it and it'll verify, since the verifier only reads in between the  
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
and
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----

I'd like to thank the bitcointalk community for all the support, great memories, and memes over the past 7+ years. I'll continue to lurk around every once in a while, and hope that by closing this thread + this message, we'll prevent scams moving forward. Will leave thread open for 24 hours more for any comments prior to closing.

Don't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions/comments. PM me (HERE, not on telegram... :p)

[Timelord2067]

...

Thanks for letting us know you're not coming back and will be locking this thread.  It'll stop at least one way scammers have to fleece unsuspecting users here on the forum.