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September 17, 2014, 08:32:10 AM |
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Maaaan, no need to use the words "fucking" here. You broke the rules, deal with it. Deal with it like a man. If you own a site and someone did what you did in Win88, are you really sure you will just tolerate him/her and give him/her the winnings even though you know he didnt get it fairly? You know the rules, and yes there might loopholes around it but it doesnt mean you abuse oloophole and expect the site to pay you for that. Hmmmm...
coi[Suspicious link removed]incess clearly is well mannered compared to you. reactivating your account? Hmmm, if im the admin.. I will never let you in my site again.
Here's my entire point: Even by coin.princess's own admission, *I never broke the rules*! Someone I referred did! Anyway, the matter has resolved -- I just wanted to make that clear, I'll quietly leave this thread now He broke the rules and you expect to receive earnings from his wrong doings. Unfortunately what your referrer did affected you too.
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B4RF
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September 17, 2014, 08:58:10 AM |
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Maaaan, no need to use the words "fucking" here. You broke the rules, deal with it. Deal with it like a man. If you own a site and someone did what you did in Win88, are you really sure you will just tolerate him/her and give him/her the winnings even though you know he didnt get it fairly? You know the rules, and yes there might loopholes around it but it doesnt mean you abuse oloophole and expect the site to pay you for that. Hmmmm...
coi[Suspicious link removed]incess clearly is well mannered compared to you. reactivating your account? Hmmm, if im the admin.. I will never let you in my site again.
Here's my entire point: Even by coin.princess's own admission, *I never broke the rules*! Someone I referred did! Anyway, the matter has resolved -- I just wanted to make that clear, I'll quietly leave this thread now I had the same issue...the account of someone I have reffered has been erased and I dropped very low in the referral commision list. I won't recommend this site to anyone.
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DaveSaldana123
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September 17, 2014, 09:15:23 AM |
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Maaaan, no need to use the words "fucking" here. You broke the rules, deal with it. Deal with it like a man. If you own a site and someone did what you did in Win88, are you really sure you will just tolerate him/her and give him/her the winnings even though you know he didnt get it fairly? You know the rules, and yes there might loopholes around it but it doesnt mean you abuse oloophole and expect the site to pay you for that. Hmmmm...
coi[Suspicious link removed]incess clearly is well mannered compared to you. reactivating your account? Hmmm, if im the admin.. I will never let you in my site again.
Here's my entire point: Even by coin.princess's own admission, *I never broke the rules*! Someone I referred did! Anyway, the matter has resolved -- I just wanted to make that clear, I'll quietly leave this thread now I had the same issue...the account of someone I have reffered has been erased and I dropped very low in the referral commision list. I won't recommend this site to anyone. Ok.. I got your point.. But why should they give you the points if the one your referred was cheating/broke the rules? For example, you are playing on the same team playing something like football/soccer. If your teammate scored but was offside, so the point was taken back because it doesnt count. Right? Same as to the referral progam. You are on the same team. Your referral cheated/broke the rules then got banned or was erased, dropped you say the points he gained from cheating will not be accounted of course. Why should they account it. Your referral was cheating. You can actually complain your lungs out but referee decision is final. So players move on and continue playing. Now, if you quit and just bad mouthing the site, then that means you also created the third account and is feeling bad because of the hard work you put on cheating but wasnt paid. Move on. You can still play because coin princess reactivated the account. Or not. But not recommending the site, calling it something bad, etc because they dont give in with what you want is off the line.
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B4RF
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September 17, 2014, 09:32:48 AM |
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Ok.. I got your point.. But why should they give you the points if the one your referred was cheating/broke the rules? For example, you are playing on the same team playing something like football/soccer. If your teammate scored but was offside, so the point was taken back because it doesnt count. Right?
Same as to the referral progam. You are on the same team. Your referral cheated/broke the rules then got banned or was erased, dropped you say the points he gained from cheating will not be accounted of course. Why should they account it. Your referral was cheating.
You can actually complain your lungs out but referee decision is final. So players move on and continue playing. Now, if you quit and just bad mouthing the site, then that means you also created the third account and is feeling bad because of the hard work you put on cheating but wasnt paid.
Move on. You can still play because coin princess reactivated the account. Or not. But not recommending the site, calling it something bad, etc because they dont give in with what you want is off the line.
I wouldn't say that the referrer is in the same team as the cheater ... I would say he is in the team of the OP if he tries to promote his site. And the referral commision shouldn't drop just because the site has vulnerabilities and someone uses them, because I have done my job and referred new users no matter what they are doing on the site afterwards.
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DaveSaldana123
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September 17, 2014, 10:09:26 AM |
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Ok.. I got your point.. But why should they give you the points if the one your referred was cheating/broke the rules? For example, you are playing on the same team playing something like football/soccer. If your teammate scored but was offside, so the point was taken back because it doesnt count. Right?
Same as to the referral progam. You are on the same team. Your referral cheated/broke the rules then got banned or was erased, dropped you say the points he gained from cheating will not be accounted of course. Why should they account it. Your referral was cheating.
You can actually complain your lungs out but referee decision is final. So players move on and continue playing. Now, if you quit and just bad mouthing the site, then that means you also created the third account and is feeling bad because of the hard work you put on cheating but wasnt paid.
Move on. You can still play because coin princess reactivated the account. Or not. But not recommending the site, calling it something bad, etc because they dont give in with what you want is off the line.
I wouldn't say that the referrer is in the same team as the cheater ... I would say he is in the team of the OP if he tries to promote his site. And the referral commision shouldn't drop just because the site has vulnerabilities and someone uses them, because I have done my job and referred new users no matter what they are doing on the site afterwards. Lol.. that is just very selfish of you. Why can you say that the cheater is on the same team as the OP, you referred the site to the cheater that means you introduce the site to the cheater, he clicked your link and then he cheated. You did not cheat that is why CP did not block you or had grudge vs you. The thing he did was took back the points made by the cheater because that was points he got by cheating, that seems fair right? Yes you have done your job by referring the site, but the person who clicked the "job" you made was cheating. Let me connect that to the "soccer" thing we had before. Ok, so you... you run and run and then pass the ball to the offside player (the "cheater") and kicked it in. Are you accounted by the assist/pass you made. NO. As simple as that. As ive read the thread and other comments/posts by CP. I think the site is not here to cheat. They want to stay long and I think they are just being trustworthy and fair. Give him that. You did no wrong, CP did no wrong.
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B4RF
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September 17, 2014, 10:30:23 AM |
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Lol.. that is just very selfish of you. Why can you say that the cheater is on the same team as the OP, you referred the site to the cheater that means you introduce the site to the cheater, he clicked your link and then he cheated. You did not cheat that is why CP did not block you or had grudge vs you. The thing he did was took back the points made by the cheater because that was points he got by cheating, that seems fair right?
Yes you have done your job by referring the site, but the person who clicked the "job" you made was cheating. Let me connect that to the "soccer" thing we had before.
Ok, so you... you run and run and then pass the ball to the offside player (the "cheater") and kicked it in. Are you accounted by the assist/pass you made. NO.
As simple as that.
As ive read the thread and other comments/posts by CP. I think the site is not here to cheat. They want to stay long and I think they are just being trustworthy and fair. Give him that. You did no wrong, CP did no wrong.
not the cheater the refferer... But I am done with this "soccer" comparison. OP won't change anything and thats it, I won't complain anymore because it makes no sense...
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DaveSaldana123
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September 17, 2014, 10:59:59 AM |
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Lol.. that is just very selfish of you. Why can you say that the cheater is on the same team as the OP, you referred the site to the cheater that means you introduce the site to the cheater, he clicked your link and then he cheated. You did not cheat that is why CP did not block you or had grudge vs you. The thing he did was took back the points made by the cheater because that was points he got by cheating, that seems fair right?
Yes you have done your job by referring the site, but the person who clicked the "job" you made was cheating. Let me connect that to the "soccer" thing we had before.
Ok, so you... you run and run and then pass the ball to the offside player (the "cheater") and kicked it in. Are you accounted by the assist/pass you made. NO.
As simple as that.
As ive read the thread and other comments/posts by CP. I think the site is not here to cheat. They want to stay long and I think they are just being trustworthy and fair. Give him that. You did no wrong, CP did no wrong.
not the cheater the refferer... But I am done with this "soccer" comparison. OP won't change anything and thats it, I won't complain anymore because it makes no sense... Im not even a player here. Still, thanks for replying to my post. Take care!
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BrunesBTC45
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September 17, 2014, 01:14:56 PM |
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Wow deposit is super fast huh.. No more waiting huh.. Congrats on that. Cashout and Deposit are good right now! Play on this site. Get BTC
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coin.princess (OP)
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September 17, 2014, 05:40:56 PM |
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I wouldn't say that the referrer is in the same team as the cheater ... I would say he is in the team of the OP if he tries to promote his site.
1) Multiple accounts, not cool 2) The person referred already had another account with win88 and had been using the site for more than a month. That should not count as a referral. Our automated rules for temporarily blocking accounts is a continued work in progress. In balancing fairness we are doing the best we can and will continue finding the right harmony.
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September 17, 2014, 05:41:33 PM |
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September 18, 2014, 03:38:37 AM |
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Been playing here since day 1. Deposit is far far far faster right now than before. Thank you for this.
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September 18, 2014, 03:06:02 PM |
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Been playing here since day 1. Deposit is far far far faster right now than before. Thank you for this. All in all, how much did you win here? Is their deposit as fast as their cashout?
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btcmaze
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i am @ 0.275 BTC loss there i suggest you reward people who lose there than for referrals. i don't mean the entire loss. Something like this: Highest losses till now: A - 1 BTC B - 2 BTC Total prize pool = 0.3 BTC So A gets 0.1 BTC and B gets 0.2 BTC I know, people may recover their losses there. But it acts as a partial refund/ cashback if you lose. And do it monthly or something. I must top the list for last month. So, if u r going to implement this, i deserve something. And people won't be able to cheat now.
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marcotheminer
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September 18, 2014, 04:59:44 PM |
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i am @ 0.275 BTC loss there i suggest you reward people who lose there than for referrals. i don't mean the entire loss. Something like this: Highest losses till now: A - 1 BTC B - 2 BTC Total prize pool = 0.3 BTC So A gets 0.1 BTC and B gets 0.2 BTC I know, people may recover their losses there. But it acts as a partial refund/ cashback if you lose. And do it monthly or something. I must top the list for last month. So, if u r going to implement this, i deserve something. And people won't be able to cheat now. Well then the site wont really grow anymore. The house edge will be gone and people wont share the site to earn rewards.
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coin.princess (OP)
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September 19, 2014, 03:42:36 AM |
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i am @ 0.275 BTC loss there i suggest you reward people who lose there than for referrals. i don't mean the entire loss. Something like this: Highest losses till now: A - 1 BTC B - 2 BTC Total prize pool = 0.3 BTC So A gets 0.1 BTC and B gets 0.2 BTC I know, people may recover their losses there. But it acts as a partial refund/ cashback if you lose. And do it monthly or something. I must top the list for last month. So, if u r going to implement this, i deserve something. And people won't be able to cheat now. Thanks for your idea and feedback. We are considering things like deposit bonuses and other things like you suggested, but no specific plans or timing as of yet. As Marco mentioned, the house edge is only 1% and there needs to be a balance of how those profits are used, especially since we also have a 2000 satoshi faucet every few minutes. Again thanks for your idea. We will continue adding new things to the site over time and do have some plans to reward the biggest players (like VIP program etc)
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September 19, 2014, 05:18:41 AM |
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i get his point. it motivates people to play and the eg. is misleading. try this: A : 10 BTC lost and B : 8 BTC lost
and bonus pool will be fixed. So in long term house edge is covered. Just as affilliate program works. rewarding losers instead of affiliates.
Whatever you do, don't scrap the affiliate program. Thank you
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btcmaze
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September 19, 2014, 01:38:33 PM |
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i am @ 0.275 BTC loss there i suggest you reward people who lose there than for referrals. i don't mean the entire loss. Something like this: Highest losses till now: A - 1 BTC B - 2 BTC Total prize pool = 0.3 BTC So A gets 0.1 BTC and B gets 0.2 BTC I know, people may recover their losses there. But it acts as a partial refund/ cashback if you lose. And do it monthly or something. I must top the list for last month. So, if u r going to implement this, i deserve something. And people won't be able to cheat now. Thanks for your idea and feedback. We are considering things like deposit bonuses and other things like you suggested, but no specific plans or timing as of yet. As Marco mentioned, the house edge is only 1% and there needs to be a balance of how those profits are used, especially since we also have a 2000 satoshi faucet every few minutes. Again thanks for your idea. We will continue adding new things to the site over time and do have some plans to reward the biggest players (like VIP program etc) House edge is only 1%. then how do u justify giving referral rewards? Just put 0.1 BTC for people who lose (till now not now on) and 0.4 for affilliates. That will encourage people to play. it is same as participating in one of those givveaways ie. getting refunds but not on wagers but in losses. Also as i said, peeple wont try to cheat. it is foolproof.
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September 19, 2014, 03:08:59 PM |
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It will encourage the same people to play again but NOT encourage new players to sign up.
Either way, you can't give back lost bitcoins or else it defeats the purpose of gambling/the small house edge.
Imagine in a real life casino if they gave back losses, it not make appealing profits for the owners.
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September 20, 2014, 01:50:17 AM |
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i am @ 0.275 BTC loss there i suggest you reward people who lose there than for referrals. i don't mean the entire loss. Something like this: Highest losses till now: A - 1 BTC B - 2 BTC Total prize pool = 0.3 BTC So A gets 0.1 BTC and B gets 0.2 BTC I know, people may recover their losses there. But it acts as a partial refund/ cashback if you lose. And do it monthly or something. I must top the list for last month. So, if u r going to implement this, i deserve something. And people won't be able to cheat now. Great idea. Any casino around doing something like this already?
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MundoCrypto
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September 21, 2014, 10:14:16 AM |
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i am @ 0.275 BTC loss there i suggest you reward people who lose there than for referrals. i don't mean the entire loss. Something like this: Highest losses till now: A - 1 BTC B - 2 BTC Total prize pool = 0.3 BTC So A gets 0.1 BTC and B gets 0.2 BTC I know, people may recover their losses there. But it acts as a partial refund/ cashback if you lose. And do it monthly or something. I must top the list for last month. So, if u r going to implement this, i deserve something. And people won't be able to cheat now. +1 on this That would be great! and also a prize for the week biggest bettor will be cool too. (It would be good for me since I'm the biggest bettor right now , but I'm down 0.8 BTC )
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