Malooka
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June 30, 2014, 09:37:20 PM |
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I assume if we used dgex for escrow wouldn't be in that list? Also, coins there will be deposited to the dgex account?
Yes, how will this work and when will we see it? DGEX is awful at letting people know about things. I'm still out hundreds of NXT because of an incorrect transaction - weeks later, no response from DGEX on here or their official email.
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July 01, 2014, 03:01:10 AM |
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Total accepted donations 533.0380646 BTC
Blockchain.info 191 donations, 225.5324219 BTC DGEX.com 240 donators, 307.50564270 BTC
Donator numbers are preliminary and may slightly change before genesis block distribution.
Blockchain.info donations
29.99900000 16.00000000 15.05164743 10.00000000 09.99980000 08.00000000 08.00000000 04.83200000 04.73500000 04.73000000 03.99980000 03.70000000 03.40000000 03.40000000 03.25000000 03.00000000 03.00000000 02.80000000 02.00000000 02.00000000 02.00000000 01.99980000 01.80000000 01.75000000 01.70000000 01.70000000 01.66000000 01.63200000 01.60000000 01.58100000 01.50000000 01.50000000 01.50000000 01.50000000 01.50000000 01.50000000 01.50000000 01.50000000 01.50000000 01.50000000 01.50000000 01.49980000 01.48000000 01.47050000 01.47000000 01.40000000 01.17130000 01.10000000 01.01000000 01.00000000 01.00000000 01.00000000 01.00000000 01.00000000 00.99990000 00.99980000 00.99970000 00.98020948 00.91590000 00.89400000 00.85430000 00.80000000 00.80000000 00.72000000 00.70007903 00.69350000 00.60000000 00.60000000 00.52000000 00.51000000 00.50000000 00.50000000 00.50000000 00.50000000 00.50000000 00.50000000 00.50000000 00.50000000 00.50000000 00.49980000 00.49980000 00.49970000 00.45760000 00.45120000 00.45080000 00.40000000 00.39532612 00.36087957 00.34000000 00.33363353 00.33333333 00.33333300 00.31000000 00.30000000 00.30000000 00.30000000 00.27000000 00.25000000 00.25000000 00.25000000 00.25000000 00.24900000 00.24000000 00.23880000 00.22960000 00.22610000 00.22530000 00.22460000 00.22270000 00.22240000 00.22200000 00.22145281 00.22000000 00.21680000 00.21540000 00.20000000 00.20000000 00.20000000 00.20000000 00.20000000 00.20000000 00.19980000 00.19980000 00.19500000 00.19000000 00.18980000 00.17000000 00.16000000 00.15539021 00.15515000 00.15500000 00.15000000 00.14803200 00.14000000 00.12980000 00.12900000 00.12000000 00.12000000 00.11566997 00.11300000 00.11215736 00.11000000 00.10000000 00.10000000 00.10000000 00.10000000 00.09990000 00.09980000 00.09900000 00.09800000 00.06450000 00.05000000 00.05000000 00.04990000 00.04980000 00.04630220 00.03800000 00.03800000 00.03420000 00.03000000 00.03000000 00.02500000 00.02480000 00.02374654 00.02310000 00.02200000 00.02140000 00.02010000 00.02000000 00.02000000 00.02000000 00.01980000 00.01900000 00.01706282 00.01530000 00.01400000 00.01020000 00.01000000 00.01000000 00.01000000 00.01000000 00.00900000 00.00625840 00.00344000 00.00150000 00.00129331 00.00100000 00.00042479 00.00020000 00.00010000 00.00010000
DGEX.com aggregate donations
29.99900000 20.42019000 17.14000000 16.97697800 15.99927000 14.00000000 12.00000000 11.33708200 10.60325200 10.00000000 8.50000000 5.30000000 5.29807200 5.26796800 5.00000000 4.80345900 4.32390000 4.08000000 4.00000000 3.84490000 3.76980000 3.64158000 3.30406100 3.23500000 3.00000000 3.00000000 3.00000000 2.99980000 2.90000000 2.75000000 2.60622800 2.13000000 2.00217000 2.00000100 2.00000000 2.00000000 1.73750000 1.69623700 1.50000000 1.43538700 1.37450310 1.20000000 1.17930100 1.13219300 1.10450600 1.02034700 1.00000000 1.00000000 1.00000000 1.00000000 1.00000000 1.00000000 1.00000000 1.00000000 1.00000000 0.97977100 0.93000000 0.90000000 0.88757490 0.73026700 0.71983000 0.71005600 0.63431000 0.59600000 0.59600000 0.56191600 0.55000000 0.53860200 0.50477600 0.50020240 0.50010000 0.50000000 0.50000000 0.45901000 0.45441700 0.40000000 0.40000000 0.38007900 0.36517900 0.36227700 0.35134900 0.35000000 0.35000000 0.35000000 0.33000000 0.32000000 0.30255990 0.30167000 0.30000000 0.30000000 0.29986100 0.28000000 0.26000000 0.25791700 0.25100000 0.25000000 0.25000000 0.25000000 0.25000000 0.25000000 0.25000000 0.24304800 0.22222220 0.21950000 0.21520000 0.21000000 0.21000000 0.20000000 0.20000000 0.20000000 0.20000000 0.20000000 0.20000000 0.20000000 0.20000000 0.20000000 0.19760900 0.19630000 0.19200000 0.19000000 0.19000000 0.19000000 0.18800000 0.18780000 0.18000000 0.17300000 0.16143500 0.15307100 0.14503200 0.14000000 0.13920000 0.13611500 0.13498000 0.13410000 0.13264000 0.13074700 0.12831600 0.12457000 0.12000000 0.11690000 0.11419000 0.11200000 0.11050000 0.11000000 0.10104500 0.10008000 0.10000600 0.10000000 0.10000000 0.10000000 0.10000000 0.10000000 0.10000000 0.10000000 0.10000000 0.10000000 0.09900000 0.09254000 0.09000000 0.08798400 0.08645900 0.08381500 0.08366800 0.08000000 0.07500000 0.07322900 0.07218100 0.07027900 0.06171400 0.06000000 0.05847200 0.05770000 0.05662500 0.05653400 0.05500000 0.05388300 0.05267700 0.05009400 0.05000000 0.05000000 0.05000000 0.04643000 0.04400000 0.04000000 0.04000000 0.04000000 0.03500000 0.03401400 0.03121680 0.03100000 0.03100000 0.03000000 0.02650000 0.02640800 0.02500000 0.02344900 0.02271890 0.02220000 0.02029900 0.02000000 0.02000000 0.02000000 0.02000000 0.01553000 0.01318100 0.01200000 0.01118000 0.01007600 0.01000000 0.01000000 0.01000000 0.01000000 0.01000000 0.01000000 0.00900000 0.00820000 0.00775000 0.00704400 0.00600000 0.00600000 0.00500000 0.00500000 0.00500000 0.00492900 0.00400000 0.00367900 0.00360000 0.00325150 0.00300900 0.00266300 0.00234500 0.00220900 0.00200000 0.00200000 0.00193300 0.00186100 0.00158400 0.00101600 0.00099700 0.00050000
There was a single donator harshly exceeding the 10% of total rule through a total of 202 BTC transferred to Krypto Fin ry. This person took initiative in contacting us, thus it was agreed to adjust his total donation amount to match the second highest donator's 29.999 BTC.
In addition to refunding the extra for the largest donator, two small transfers that came in after the deadline were not accepted.
Great work! Waiting for rocket up!
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kikeda
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July 01, 2014, 03:22:18 AM |
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Great post and great transparency. Very professional to reject invalid donations. Well done! FIMK is off to a great start.
Yeah, and it isn't easy to get over 500 BTC donations, before coin is even released. That's why I think this will be huge. there is definitely something major behind it. Agreed. Definitely has a chance to be big. Block rewards, and wider distribution could give NXT a run for its money (and yes, I have some money in NXT and FIMK). Very interested to see how strong the FIMK network will be. EVERYBODY with FIMK should be forging for chance at those big block rewards. yeah with 500btc as funds for development and pr, this should be huge.
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tobeaj2mer01
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July 01, 2014, 03:25:45 AM |
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@DEV, If we use DGEX to invest, how can we claim our coins, DGEX will do it for us automatically, correct?
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July 01, 2014, 03:33:09 AM |
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Coin launch time
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Eliphaz Fimk (OP)
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July 01, 2014, 08:46:38 AM |
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Launch will be late tonight GMT time, lots of things to do still for genesis block and we need the DGEX stakeholder information sorted out to grant their stake to genuine FIMK accounts.
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gvans
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July 01, 2014, 10:24:20 AM |
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Launch will be late tonight GMT time, lots of things to do still for genesis block and we need the DGEX stakeholder information sorted out to grant their stake to genuine FIMK accounts.
AFAIK Dgex has not collected any information so far for actual donators' FIMK accounts for distribution. I don't even have FIMK-wallet address yet. Only donated via my dgex-account.
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mtbitcoin
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July 01, 2014, 12:04:04 PM |
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Launch will be late tonight GMT time, lots of things to do still for genesis block and we need the DGEX stakeholder information sorted out to grant their stake to genuine FIMK accounts.
Why not have the coins distributed to the DGEX FIMK account balances instead? And dgex users can then either withdraw, hodl or trade their coins? Cheers
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bitcoinpaul
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July 01, 2014, 05:28:47 PM |
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Launch will be late tonight GMT time, lots of things to do still for genesis block and we need the DGEX stakeholder information sorted out to grant their stake to genuine FIMK accounts.
Why not have the coins distributed to the DGEX FIMK account balances instead? And dgex users can then either withdraw, hodl or trade their coins? Cheers +1
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Eliphaz Fimk (OP)
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July 01, 2014, 05:44:50 PM |
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While that could technically 'work', I agree with approach to distribute genesis all to individual donators accounts. A genesis distribution to a single DGEX account would be 57% of total IPO stake. Looks very bad, and would need a constant explanation why genesis distribution so skewed. Better to let FIMK organizers do as they plan.
Exactly my words! FIMK doesn't want to tie up too tightly with DGEX after launch. Being in contact with the head dev now constantly, the final stakes list is ready and he has initated the processes for launch. They take hours - our network and initial automation systems are much more extensive (call it professional if you prefer) than NXT was and it really feels like a countdown to launching a rocket to the moon... or giving birth to something significant. I now might have a taste of the particular psychological pressure mothers have to endure going through a long labor process. Fortunately the physical side is not nearly as severe.
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July 01, 2014, 05:57:40 PM |
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So when & how will DGEX be getting our (the investors) individual account numbers to you? I haven't found anywhere in my account to upload or submit my account number to receive the stake I paid into DGEX?
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PilotofBTC
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July 01, 2014, 06:17:30 PM |
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Why not have the coins distributed to the DGEX FIMK account balances instead? And dgex users can then either withdraw, hodl or trade their coins?
While that could technically 'work', I agree with approach to distribute genesis all to individual donators accounts. A genesis distribution to a single DGEX account would be 57% of total IPO stake. Looks very bad, and would need a constant explanation why genesis distribution so skewed. Better to let FIMK organizers do as they plan. That's the way escrow works. FIMK should be sent to dgex, dgex then sends bitcoin to devs and FIMK to each investors FIMK balance on dgex. Otherwise, dgex would have to verify FIMK went to each investor before releasing btc. That could be a nightmare for them. The explanation is simple, it was an escrow agent.
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mellorbo
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July 01, 2014, 06:26:36 PM |
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Why not have the coins distributed to the DGEX FIMK account balances instead? And dgex users can then either withdraw, hodl or trade their coins?
While that could technically 'work', I agree with approach to distribute genesis all to individual donators accounts. A genesis distribution to a single DGEX account would be 57% of total IPO stake. Looks very bad, and would need a constant explanation why genesis distribution so skewed. Better to let FIMK organizers do as they plan. That's the way escrow works. FIMK should be sent to dgex, dgex then sends bitcoin to devs and FIMK to each investors FIMK balance on dgex. Otherwise, dgex would have to verify FIMK went to each investor before releasing btc. That could be a nightmare for them. The explanation is simple, it was an escrow agent. agreed otherwise there was no point using dgex as an escrow if we cant receive our coins there as we (through dgex) did not get any form of tx code or any way to differentiate our transactions. the only way i can see it working is the fimk have to be sent to dgex for the fimk investors. it is then down to the stake holders to dump/sell or withdraw to a wallet and hold
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Eliphaz Fimk (OP)
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July 01, 2014, 06:35:12 PM |
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DGEX gives each donator a unique FIMK address, and this list has been forwarded to our distribution phase. Thus every DGEX accountholder gets a real FIMK account with their stake on it, and DGEX is able to verify that the FIMK genesis account distribution matches their FIMK address list and amounts created by DGEX tech.
When that verification is done, FIMK should be paid the donated BTC (minus DGEX fee). At that phase DGEX is relieved from the escrow contract and can accept FIMK deposits if they want, but no FIMK remains at DGEX initially.
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July 01, 2014, 07:01:49 PM |
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Have you ensured that DGEX will not have a withdrawal fee for the IPO participants? ...for a few days at least... There is no withdrawal from DGEX. The FIMK are on a FIMK account that DGEX grants the donator access to, for free. I encourage anybody who escrowed with DGEX to transfer FIMK from the DGEX-created account to a new account using secure passphrase that only you know.
We encourage that also and so does DGEX. This arrangement enables FIMK and DGEX conclude the distribution quickly, whereas requiring every DGEX donator to supply FIMK address would have probably dragged on long. It was already a lot of work to settle and arrange just half a dozen missing blockchain.info donator details a temporary FIMK account for the genesis distribution, until they come up to identify.
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PilotofBTC
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July 01, 2014, 07:12:41 PM |
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Have you ensured that DGEX will not have a withdrawal fee for the IPO participants? ...for a few days at least... There is no withdrawal from DGEX. The FIMK are on a FIMK account that DGEX grants the donator access to, for free. I encourage anybody who escrowed with DGEX to transfer FIMK from the DGEX-created account to a new account using secure passphrase that only you know.
We encourage that also and so does DGEX. This arrangement enables FIMK and DGEX conclude the distribution quickly, whereas requiring every DGEX donator to supply FIMK address would have probably dragged on long. It was already a lot of work to settle and arrange just half a dozen missing blockchain.info donator details a temporary FIMK account for the genesis distribution, until they come up to identify. When I made my investment the dgex info said that the FIMK would be added to my FIMK balance on the gdex exchange. That is how they will create an ID for me. The same way they do if I was depositing FIMK into my account. So essentially the FIMK will be deposited to the dgex investors balance on the dgex exchange. So, your "FIMK" account provided by dgex will be your dgex account. I can't see them doing it any other way.
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mellorbo
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July 01, 2014, 07:14:34 PM |
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I encourage anybody who escrowed with DGEX to transfer FIMK from the DGEX-created account to a new account using secure passphrase that only you know.
We encourage that also and so does DGEX. This arrangement enables FIMK and DGEX conclude the distribution quickly, whereas requiring every DGEX donator to supply FIMK address would have probably dragged on long. It was already a lot of work to settle and arrange just half a dozen missing blockchain.info donator details a temporary FIMK account for the genesis distribution, until they come up to identify. Great! Thank you for handling all the details so nicely. An FYI for anybody new to the technology of NXT (and therefore FIMK): Your passphrase is your account. Make it very strong.Either use a passphrase generated by the client, or create your own by using at least 35 truly random characters. +1 security is imperative. so for all newcomers stay away from your usual passwords and please make sure you have a backup of your passphrase stored off of your computer. think of it like this. your passphrase is like your physical fiat wallet if its rammed full of money and you lose it your screwed!
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mellorbo
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July 01, 2014, 07:20:32 PM |
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will the fimk wallet be like nxt wallet where with a NEW wallet you have to send a transaction out of the account in order for maximum security?
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mellorbo
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July 01, 2014, 07:43:38 PM |
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how will dgex investors be notified upon distribution?
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BitTom
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July 01, 2014, 08:27:03 PM |
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Auroracoin's price has risen much because of FIMK today.
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