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travis72682
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August 26, 2014, 03:53:22 PM |
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Am I the only one that feels knows that these pump and dumps are horrible for the market. Even if you guys bump the "value" of the coin, 99% of the time it is just slowly gonna crumble back down. You guys are creating false value, not only does it make people loose money by buying higher than they should be. It is not good for the market as a whole because coins should rise in value because they do something different that may add to the popularity of cryptocurrency with the masses. This organized pump and dump shit holds cryptocurrency in general back just for that reason.
If a coin is going to rise in value, it should do so for a reason, not because some douchebag on a forum says "lets all buy at once derrr". There is a reason this type of shit is called fraud on the stock exchange...
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paycum
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August 26, 2014, 05:23:45 PM |
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that is why he pumps coins who come up with big news and stuff like that, this way its isnt just a simple pump and dump.
and yes offcourse he earns with his pumps, but there is nothing wrong with that. its a win win situation.
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paycum
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August 26, 2014, 05:33:20 PM |
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travis72682
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August 26, 2014, 05:36:17 PM |
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that is why he pumps coins who come up with big news and stuff like that, this way its isnt just a simple pump and dump.
and yes offcourse he earns with his pumps, but there is nothing wrong with that. its a win win situation.
If a coin has news that will raise the value, the value will go up ON ITS OWN. Anyone arguing that pump and dumps are good for anything other than lining a few's pockets is obviously extremely ignorant, or are the ones who are lining their pockets. And that isnt my opinion... its FACT. |
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paycum
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August 26, 2014, 05:41:58 PM |
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that is why he pumps coins who come up with big news and stuff like that, this way its isnt just a simple pump and dump.
and yes offcourse he earns with his pumps, but there is nothing wrong with that. its a win win situation.
If a coin has news that will raise the value, the value will go up ON ITS OWN. Anyone arguing that pump and dumps are good for anything other than lining a few's pockets is obviously extremely ignorant, or are the ones who are lining their pockets. And that isnt my opinion... its FACT. well yes and no. When big news is announced and price goes up you say it will raise on its own. Well thats not true as that raise is also a pump based on the news. But same happens, the ones who already have coins profit from the spike...and people buy because the expect it to go up... its the same with pumps from this topic...there really isnt much of a difference except thet the topic owner always makes a profit...but there is nothing wrong with that... |
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travis72682
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August 26, 2014, 05:47:42 PM |
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well yes and no. When big news is announced and price goes up you say it will raise on its own. Well thats not true as that raise is also a pump based on the news. But same happens, the ones who already have coins profit from the spike...and people buy because the expect it to go up...
People buying because they believe the price will rise based on direction of the coin is the open market at work. When a bunch of idiots drive the price up, it throws everything off. It is no longer an open market (that works) its a big fucking joke. Huge spikes and declines dont create confidence in a coin. The fact that these forums even allow this type of organized FRAUD is beyond me.. You lowlifes should have to hide in the shadows (where you cant reach the idiots that believe your BS). |
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paycum
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August 26, 2014, 06:04:34 PM |
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well yes and no. When big news is announced and price goes up you say it will raise on its own. Well thats not true as that raise is also a pump based on the news. But same happens, the ones who already have coins profit from the spike...and people buy because the expect it to go up...
People buying because they believe the price will rise based on direction of the coin is the open market at work. When a bunch of idiots drive the price up, it throws everything off. It is no longer an open market (that works) its a big fucking joke. Huge spikes and declines dont create confidence in a coin. The fact that these forums even allow this type of organized FRAUD is beyond me.. You lowlifes should have to hide in the shadows (where you cant reach the idiots that believe your BS). that why he pumps coins with news. most people probably bought it anyway only difference its now happening at a fixed time. and so much impact doesnt a pump has...most of the time it only goes up 100% and that is in combination with news buyers.. and to be clear, i do not host/own/arrange these pumps, im just a follower who gives my opinion on this! |
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travis72682
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August 26, 2014, 06:06:29 PM |
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well yes and no. When big news is announced and price goes up you say it will raise on its own. Well thats not true as that raise is also a pump based on the news. But same happens, the ones who already have coins profit from the spike...and people buy because the expect it to go up...
People buying because they believe the price will rise based on direction of the coin is the open market at work. When a bunch of idiots drive the price up, it throws everything off. It is no longer an open market (that works) its a big fucking joke. Huge spikes and declines dont create confidence in a coin. The fact that these forums even allow this type of organized FRAUD is beyond me.. You lowlifes should have to hide in the shadows (where you cant reach the idiots that believe your BS). that why he pumps coins with news. most people probably bought it anyway only difference its now happening at a fixed time. and so much impact doesnt a pump has...most of the time it only goes up 100% and that is in combination with news buyers.. and to be clear, i do not host/own/arrange these pumps, im just a follower who gives my opinion on this! edit: 100% in 2 minutes is being generous btw, more like 200% in a minute. LMAO, you cant really think the people that bought during the pump were going to buy coins anyway, can you?.... If that were the case they wouldnt have all dumped the shit out of the coin 5 minutes after they bought it. The price jumping 100% in 2 minutes has NOTHING to do with news. especially since the news hadnt JUST been released at that moment... |
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August 26, 2014, 06:23:19 PM |
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well yes and no. When big news is announced and price goes up you say it will raise on its own. Well thats not true as that raise is also a pump based on the news. But same happens, the ones who already have coins profit from the spike...and people buy because the expect it to go up...
People buying because they believe the price will rise based on direction of the coin is the open market at work. When a bunch of idiots drive the price up, it throws everything off. It is no longer an open market (that works) its a big fucking joke. Huge spikes and declines dont create confidence in a coin. The fact that these forums even allow this type of organized FRAUD is beyond me.. You lowlifes should have to hide in the shadows (where you cant reach the idiots that believe your BS). that why he pumps coins with news. most people probably bought it anyway only difference its now happening at a fixed time. and so much impact doesnt a pump has...most of the time it only goes up 100% and that is in combination with news buyers.. and to be clear, i do not host/own/arrange these pumps, im just a follower who gives my opinion on this! edit: 100% in 2 minutes is being generous btw, more like 200% in a minute. LMAO, you cant really think the people that bought during the pump were going to buy coins anyway, can you?.... If that were the case they wouldnt have all dumped the shit out of the coin 5 minutes after they bought it. The price jumping 100% in 2 minutes has NOTHING to do with news. especially since the news hadnt JUST been released at that moment... |
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August 26, 2014, 07:11:14 PM |
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These pumps help buy bringing attention to an otherwise un noticed coin. Some buy it and don't dump it either.
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August 26, 2014, 07:14:30 PM |
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August 26, 2014, 07:30:07 PM |
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syscoin pump starting in 2 hours
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johnwest
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August 26, 2014, 07:30:29 PM |
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These pumps help buy bringing attention to an otherwise un noticed coin. Some buy it and don't dump it either.
I agree, pumping the coins will attract new investor and follower of coins. |
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August 26, 2014, 08:00:29 PM |
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New Pump by MR. Net on Sun. 31 it will be big. Prepare your Btcs. Get ready!
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johnwest
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August 26, 2014, 08:01:43 PM |
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Do you really think, voting will help on pumping the coin, at the end we need bitcoin to pump the price of coin. Without those big pumper not easy to pump any coins. |
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travis72682
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August 26, 2014, 08:08:55 PM |
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These pumps help buy bringing attention to an otherwise un noticed coin. Some buy it and don't dump it either.
I agree, pumping the coins will attract new investor and follower of coins. If a coin deserves to be noticed they will. That is the beauty of a FREE market. Once someone starts manipulating the market, even with good intentions (not saying good intentions here) the market turns to shit. Take an economics class or read a book or something. |
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svetliopi44
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August 26, 2014, 08:10:35 PM |
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Do you really think, voting will help on pumping the coin, at the end we need bitcoin to pump the price of coin. Without those big pumper not easy to pump any coins. What makes you think they do not have coins. |
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August 26, 2014, 08:14:00 PM |
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Do you really think, voting will help on pumping the coin, at the end we need bitcoin to pump the price of coin. Without those big pumper not easy to pump any coins. What makes you think they do not have coins. Having coins doesn't means they have guts to spend for pumping the coins. It's not easy, everyone want to try to use safeguard. |
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svetliopi44
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August 26, 2014, 09:09:25 PM |
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Do you really think, voting will help on pumping the coin, at the end we need bitcoin to pump the price of coin. Without those big pumper not easy to pump any coins. What makes you think they do not have coins. Having coins doesn't means they have guts to spend for pumping the coins. It's not easy, everyone want to try to use safeguard. You're right, courage is acquired when you see 200 people after you. Which will naturally take, their coins.  |
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