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February 13, 2012, 02:54:41 AM
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Watching these walls, yes, its clear there is no manipulator..     Roll Eyes

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February 13, 2012, 03:08:12 AM
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They gotta push the price below $5.00, and then we should see a downwards movement from there and probably a new longer term price in the $4's.

They got close this time, but quite didn't make it.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; You put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle; You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
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February 13, 2012, 03:12:38 AM
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Watching these walls, yes, its clear there is no manipulator..     Roll Eyes

No...None!  Roll Eyes

Look now!

The battle has begun!

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February 13, 2012, 03:17:09 AM
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February 13, 2012, 03:17:20 AM
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Look at this new wall that popped up at $5.2, nope, no manipulation dummies.

Bid 4.75 2045.32
Bid 4.8 6913.78
Bid 4.85 2254.67
Bid 4.9 1301
Bid 4.95 970.11
Bid 5 11052.08
Bid 5.05 6010.06
Bid 5.1 6796.01
Bid 5.15 1185.87
Bid 5.2 33625.79
Ask 5.25 9.23
Ask 5.3 57.79
Ask 5.35 397.95
Ask 5.4 14484.77
Ask 5.45 69.52
Ask 5.5 482.05
Ask 5.55 531.44
Ask 5.6 1619.55
Ask 5.65 3591.33


Below was coped about 15 minutes ago or before the above was copied from mtgox, so you can see for comparison. One manipulator put a ask wall at $5.4, and tried to lower price, another manipulator came in and said no way we going lower, and put a whopping bid wall at $5.2 of over 30K.

Bid 4.75 1906.31
Bid 4.8 6663.76
Bid 4.85 2115.68
Bid 4.9 1300.13
Bid 4.95 985.64
Bid 5 11238.17
Bid 5.05 5716.31
Bid 5.1 6813.69
Bid 5.15 1162.56
Bid 5.2 5574.55
Bid 5.25 4505.65
Bid 5.3 5119.46
Bid 5.35 522.04
Ask 5.4 15295.97
Ask 5.45 38.18
Ask 5.5 139.55
Ask 5.55 408.42
Ask 5.6 1442.53
Ask 5.65 3525.61
Ask 5.7 3596.4
Ask 5.75 5082.45

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February 13, 2012, 03:19:46 AM
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It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.
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February 13, 2012, 03:21:46 AM
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It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Yes, this is what Im thinking too, having the hand tighten around bitcoinica is key...  Wink

We the need the rocky theme playing right now... thats quite a narrow wall..  interesting..

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February 13, 2012, 03:33:12 AM
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It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Yes, this is what Im thinking too, having the hand tighten around bitcoinica is key...  Wink

We the need the rocky theme playing right now... thats quite a narrow wall..  interesting..

Yeah, if I had the kind of buying power this person had it's exactly what I'd be doing.

Bitcoinica => Make huge bet on where the market is going
MtGox => MAKE THE MARKET GO WHERE YOU WANT
MtGox => Hold wall as close as possible because of bitcoinica's stupid algorithms
Bitcoinica => Cash out and laugh your ass off
MtGox => release hold while still laughing your ass off as market rebounds, walking away with all the people who bet against you on bitcoinica.

If I had the money I would be doing this instead of posting about it. Anyone who uses bitcoinica is playing a game they cannot win...except maybe this dude.

In which case, consider this my public service announcement.
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February 13, 2012, 03:35:20 AM
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It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Yes, this is what Im thinking too, having the hand tighten around bitcoinica is key...  Wink

We the need the rocky theme playing right now... thats quite a narrow wall..  interesting..

Yeah, if I had the kind of buying power this person had it's exactly what I'd be doing.

Bitcoinica => Make huge bet on where the market is going
MtGox => MAKE THE MARKET GO WHERE YOU WANT
MtGox => Hold wall as close as possible because of bitcoinica's stupid algorithms
Bitcoinica => Cash out and laugh your ass off
MtGox => release hold while still laughing your ass off.

If I had the money I would be doing this instead of posting about it. Anyone who uses bitcoinica is playing a game they cannot win.

...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0

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February 13, 2012, 03:37:43 AM
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click on that link for Culture and zero sum...   Grin

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February 13, 2012, 03:38:24 AM
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...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0

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This is a specific bitcoinica issue.
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February 13, 2012, 03:39:34 AM
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It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Yes, this is what Im thinking too, having the hand tighten around bitcoinica is key...  Wink

We the need the rocky theme playing right now... thats quite a narrow wall..  interesting..

Yeah, if I had the kind of buying power this person had it's exactly what I'd be doing.

Bitcoinica => Make huge bet on where the market is going
MtGox => MAKE THE MARKET GO WHERE YOU WANT
MtGox => Hold wall as close as possible because of bitcoinica's stupid algorithms
Bitcoinica => Cash out and laugh your ass off
MtGox => release hold while still laughing your ass off.

If I had the money I would be doing this instead of posting about it. Anyone who uses bitcoinica is playing a game they cannot win.

...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0
Just your average everyday normal guys.... (grabbed from deepceleron)
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February 13, 2012, 03:41:11 AM
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It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Yes, this is what Im thinking too, having the hand tighten around bitcoinica is key...  Wink

We the need the rocky theme playing right now... thats quite a narrow wall..  interesting..

Yeah, if I had the kind of buying power this person had it's exactly what I'd be doing.

Bitcoinica => Make huge bet on where the market is going
MtGox => MAKE THE MARKET GO WHERE YOU WANT
MtGox => Hold wall as close as possible because of bitcoinica's stupid algorithms
Bitcoinica => Cash out and laugh your ass off
MtGox => release hold while still laughing your ass off.

If I had the money I would be doing this instead of posting about it. Anyone who uses bitcoinica is playing a game they cannot win.

...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0
Just your average everyday normal guys.... (grabbed from deepceleron)

15 k in coins is nearly 78 thousand...   just normal dudes...   Cheesy

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February 13, 2012, 03:41:58 AM
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...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0

So you're saying you took a short position?

I hope you at least cashed out now...it'll go back up when hold is released and the wall creator is in a secure buying position.
There's a lot of incentive from other forces to have it keep going down. I diversified. I am just going to treat the wall creator like everyone else. In the end, the strongest desire always wins.

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February 13, 2012, 03:57:38 AM
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It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

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February 13, 2012, 04:03:33 AM
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...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0

So you're saying you took a short position?

I hope you at least cashed out now...it'll go back up when hold is released and the wall creator is in a secure buying position.
There's a lot of incentive from other forces to have it keep going down. I diversified. I am just going to treat the wall creator like everyone else. In the end, the strongest desire always wins.

As you wish, yes sentiment was already straddled.
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February 13, 2012, 04:05:54 AM
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...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0

EDIT:

This is a specific bitcoinica issue.

Did it happen to you too ?

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February 13, 2012, 04:09:08 AM
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It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

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1)  Did you capitalize on this drop?
2)  Are you a liar?
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February 13, 2012, 04:11:42 AM
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It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

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Oldminer, two questions for you:

1)  Did you capitalize on this drop?
2)  Are you a liar?

If "2" were true, would you still believe "1"?  Wink

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February 13, 2012, 04:15:46 AM
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It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

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Oldminer, two questions for you:

1)  Did you capitalize on this drop?
2)  Are you a liar?

If "2" were true, would you still believe "1"?  Wink

Haha, I think "2" is an important question   Cheesy
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