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Immature to go from yelling "to the moon" all day, to crying like a school girl because the release is currently negative 8 hours behind.
BTCgraphics, you know very well I was a crazy supporter of CLOAK. I said at the beginning that a successful altcoin needs at least these 3 things to succeed: 1) Investor 2) Community (= supporter) 3) Dev I played my role very well for 1) and 2). I trusted Alty from my entrance into CLOAK until yesterday evening. He's not playing the role he should do. Maybe the guy is still there coding or maybe not. I REALLY DON'T KNOW and I can't stant this risk anymore. I respect a lot people holding strong for the moment because THEY HAVE BALLS TO DO IT. And I still know there is a chance Alty could release something. But again, I DON'T KNOW. And in fact, nobody knows in this thread. Every one is here for the concert, except .... Alty (the band leader). Again, I respect your courage, guys. The price is damn stable regarding the waves of FUD. Not sure if courage is the right word anymore. I'm starting to believe this was a scam. I'll admit it, I didn't see it coming.
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BTCgraphics
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September 10, 2014, 10:12:55 PM |
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Immature to go from yelling "to the moon" all day, to crying like a school girl because the release is currently negative 8 hours behind.
BTCgraphics, you know very well I was a crazy supporter of CLOAK. I said at the beginning that a successful altcoin needs at least these 3 things to succeed: 1) Investor 2) Community (= supporter) 3) Dev I played my role very well for 1) and 2). I trusted Alty from my entrance into CLOAK until yesterday evening. He's not playing the role he should do. Maybe the guy is still there coding or maybe not. I REALLY DON'T KNOW and I can't stant this risk anymore. I respect a lot people holding strong for the moment because THEY HAVE BALLS TO DO IT. And I still know there is a chance Alty could release something. But again, I DON'T KNOW. And in fact, nobody knows in this thread. Every one is here for the concert, except .... Alty (the band leader). Again, I respect your courage, guys. The price is damn stable regarding the waves of FUD. Well you do know because the devs just confirmed they're working hard in IRC. You can just think they're lying, but at this point what would be the point, if it was a scam they would just dump and move on.(shit they would have dumped at 300k) If you believed they were working hard 2 days ago and you believed in the coin what makes you think they're not today? Alty hasn't catered to your needs of reassurance within 24 hours? They are working on a new groundbreaking piece of technology, believe it or not, keeping you updated day to day isn't there first priority, as crazy as that sounds. If you lost money. Hope you have better luck in your future investments I will let the fudders fud and keep my low buy orders, goodluck to everyone that left the coin, and hold strong to everyone who's sticking through the extra couple days for a release.
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September 10, 2014, 10:19:07 PM |
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Update:
It's been a while since my last official post here, yes I know!
I don't like posting about things that carry no weight or have nothing to offer, hence the apparent distance or silence.
As posted on twitter yesterday, there has been a delay on the main projects (community pressure demanded for an ETA of which we were very reluctant to put one out) however, I can show you guys something progressive and tangible to demonstrate that work is happening.
We've been building a sideproject called CloakVPN.
Please check it out and provide some feedback.
http://vpn.cloakcoin.com/
Sorry this is not the update everyone wanted but... Just a bit more patience and we'll get the real projects solidified.
Thank you Cloak Community
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September 10, 2014, 10:23:18 PM Last edit: September 10, 2014, 10:36:47 PM by trader19 |
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Update:
It's been a while since my last official post here, yes I know!
I don't like posting about things that carry no weight or have nothing to offer, hence the apparent distance or silence.
As posted on twitter yesterday, there has been a delay on the main projects (community pressure demanded for an ETA of which we were very reluctant to put one out) however, I can show you guys something progressive and tangible to demonstrate that work is happening.
We've been building a sideproject called CloakVPN.
Please check it out and provide some feedback.
http://vpn.cloakcoin.com/
Sorry this is not the update everyone wanted but... Just a bit more patience and we'll get the real projects solidified.
Thank you Cloak Community wow VPN ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i need one.. any promotional codes? great ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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sangoku
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September 10, 2014, 10:34:10 PM |
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A VPN, pouwaaaaaa wtf?? it's a joke ?
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September 10, 2014, 10:34:48 PM |
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Update: We've been building a sideproject called CloakVPN.
Huh? So how does that have any relevance to the development of CLOAK, besides the name? It's just a rebranded conventional, centralized VPN ... What's next, CLOAK-branded t-shirts and hoodies?
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September 10, 2014, 10:40:17 PM |
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A VPN, pouwaaaaaa wtf?? it's a joke ?
LMAO.. it must be... a vpn??? Hahahah
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September 10, 2014, 10:52:43 PM |
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Dont worry.. Dev said Hi on IRC, now everything is OK, all forgiven.. again..
Sheeps are already bending over with their panties at their knees painting a bullseye on their ass... again
Bring some lube this time !
But but but..... They developed a VPN with the word cloak on it! BUYING! The fact is, the trust between the devs and the community is irrevocably shattered. Imagine if I had a boss but worked from home. I promised my boss the project the company needs is coming along just great! Then when its due I inform my boss, through a text, that I havnt been working on the project for the last 5 days, but it was impossible for me to inform anyone at the company. And thats all I said. But then I tell my boss, well I did develop a VPN for the company! I was fooled once, yes even rational investors can be fooled. Im posting here to warn others, there is ZERO professionalism here and if any of you with jobs out there did this, you know you would be fired. Its that simple. So i suggest doing the same thing to this coin and project.
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September 10, 2014, 10:56:20 PM |
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Dont worry.. Dev said Hi on IRC, now everything is OK, all forgiven.. again..
Sheeps are already bending over with their panties at their knees painting a bullseye on their ass... again
Bring some lube this time !
But but but..... They developed a VPN with the word cloak on it! BUYING! The fact is, the trust between the devs and the community is irrevocably shattered. Imagine if I had a boss but worked from home. I promised my boss the project the company needs is coming along just great! Then when its due I inform my boss, through a text, that I havnt been working on the project for the last 5 days, but it was impossible for me to inform anyone at the company. And thats all I said. But then I tell my boss, well I did develop a VPN for the company! I was fooled once, yes even rational investors can be fooled. Im posting here to warn others, there is ZERO professionalism here and if any of you with jobs out there did this, you know you would be fired. Its that simple. So i suggest doing the same thing to this coin and project. alty was posting telling us the project is going good and going to be right on time? Originally he said he didn't want to put a ETA for this exact reason. He said they would "push" for the 10th. Then 2 days ago on irc he said they were a little behind, i would quote it but im on my phone.
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September 10, 2014, 11:01:55 PM |
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I'm going to ignore you till the 10th btw, then ill unignore you to see how silly you feel, talk to you soon.
anyways, 3 days yall ,get your cheap coins now. Already up 20% today
Have you unignored me yet? anyways, 0 days yall ,get your cheap coins now. Already down 33% today How about now, still on ignore? ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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September 10, 2014, 11:02:06 PM |
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Dont worry.. Dev said Hi on IRC, now everything is OK, all forgiven.. again..
Sheeps are already bending over with their panties at their knees painting a bullseye on their ass... again
Bring some lube this time !
But but but..... They developed a VPN with the word cloak on it! BUYING! The fact is, the trust between the devs and the community is irrevocably shattered. Imagine if I had a boss but worked from home. I promised my boss the project the company needs is coming along just great! Then when its due I inform my boss, through a text, that I havnt been working on the project for the last 5 days, but it was impossible for me to inform anyone at the company. And thats all I said. But then I tell my boss, well I did develop a VPN for the company! I was fooled once, yes even rational investors can be fooled. Im posting here to warn others, there is ZERO professionalism here and if any of you with jobs out there did this, you know you would be fired. Its that simple. So i suggest doing the same thing to this coin and project. alty was posting telling us the project is going good and going to be right on time? Originally he said he didn't want to put a ETA for this exact reason. He said they would "push" for the 10th. Then 2 days ago on irc he said they were a little behind, i would quote it but im on my phone. The people complaining are the ones who pushed for a release date. I hope those people got burned. This is a lesson to all developers that unless you are 100% sure, DO NOT GIVE AN ETA. I am still holding all my CLOAK. Beer and popcorn in hand, watching all the weak hands cry and bitch. Alty did nothing wrong.
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September 10, 2014, 11:04:43 PM |
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The VPN could be a great idea. Especially if it utilizes some of their already proven working anon tech. Or even if the network somehow hosts it like tor. Sounds familiar actually...
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September 10, 2014, 11:06:26 PM |
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Dont worry.. Dev said Hi on IRC, now everything is OK, all forgiven.. again..
Sheeps are already bending over with their panties at their knees painting a bullseye on their ass... again
Bring some lube this time !
But but but..... They developed a VPN with the word cloak on it! BUYING! The fact is, the trust between the devs and the community is irrevocably shattered. Imagine if I had a boss but worked from home. I promised my boss the project the company needs is coming along just great! Then when its due I inform my boss, through a text, that I havnt been working on the project for the last 5 days, but it was impossible for me to inform anyone at the company. And thats all I said. But then I tell my boss, well I did develop a VPN for the company! I was fooled once, yes even rational investors can be fooled. Im posting here to warn others, there is ZERO professionalism here and if any of you with jobs out there did this, you know you would be fired. Its that simple. So i suggest doing the same thing to this coin and project. alty was posting telling us the project is going good and going to be right on time? Originally he said he didn't want to put a ETA for this exact reason. He said they would "push" for the 10th. Then 2 days ago on irc he said they were a little behind, i would quote it but im on my phone. The people complaining are the ones who pushed for a release date. I hope those people got burned. This is a lesson to all developers that unless you are 100% sure, DO NOT GIVE AN ETA. I am still holding all my CLOAK. Beer and popcorn in hand, watching all the weak hands cry and bitch. Alty did nothing wrong. Alty did nothing wrong... you sir are in denial.
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September 10, 2014, 11:24:50 PM |
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And I thought clustercoin was a clusterfuck. Seems like Cloak is becoming the new clusterfuck coin of the month. VPN, oh my god. that is so groundbreaking. I'm gonna throw 10K btc at cloak now because they have a VPN! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I feel bad for anyone who did not listen to me when I called the end of this coin a few months back. If there was just a better way to pick right and profit... Hummm..
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September 10, 2014, 11:31:15 PM |
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Bob wants you to pay him before he shares.
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September 10, 2014, 11:36:26 PM |
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And I thought clustercoin was a clusterfuck. Seems like Cloak is becoming the new clusterfuck coin of the month. VPN, oh my god. that is so groundbreaking. I'm gonna throw 10K btc at cloak now because they have a VPN! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I feel bad for anyone who did not listen to me when I called the end of this coin a few months back. If there was just a better way to pick right and profit... Hummm.. So Bob, where do you advice us to go, now ? Please, I don't want to hear about VPN & TOR. What a backflip, man you were screaming cloak moon a day ago now this hahaha!! Multiple personality disorder much???
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September 10, 2014, 11:41:26 PM |
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And I thought clustercoin was a clusterfuck. Seems like Cloak is becoming the new clusterfuck coin of the month. VPN, oh my god. that is so groundbreaking. I'm gonna throw 10K btc at cloak now because they have a VPN! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I feel bad for anyone who did not listen to me when I called the end of this coin a few months back. If there was just a better way to pick right and profit... Hummm.. So Bob, where do you advice us to go, now ? Please, I don't want to hear about VPN & TOR. What a backflip, man you were screaming cloak moon a day ago now this hahaha!! Multiple personality disorder much??? Well, Alty was developing a coin till yesterday, now he is running a VPN business and wants you to pay him. People change.
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September 10, 2014, 11:49:11 PM |
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And I thought clustercoin was a clusterfuck. Seems like Cloak is becoming the new clusterfuck coin of the month. VPN, oh my god. that is so groundbreaking. I'm gonna throw 10K btc at cloak now because they have a VPN! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I feel bad for anyone who did not listen to me when I called the end of this coin a few months back. If there was just a better way to pick right and profit... Hummm.. So Bob, where do you advice us to go, now ? Please, I don't want to hear about VPN & TOR. What a backflip, man you were screaming cloak moon a day ago now this hahaha!! Multiple personality disorder much??? Well, Alty was developing a coin till yesterday, now he is running a VPN business and wants you to pay him. People change. The whole vpn thing has been a long known about side project with its own dev, and in fact he was the only dev around during the whole alty vacation fiasco. So don't hate on the vpn dev he is the most professional of all devs involved.
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September 10, 2014, 11:52:04 PM |
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And don't miss the CLOAK glass (TOR compatible) !!! ETA: 19.09.2014 Also the CLOAK watch (with POSA DIRECT VPN CONNECT): CLOAK is a SCAM !?! Nooooooooo
Since the first POSA was good (according to MRRGnome) and they have just been starting fresh over and over it shows that they are at least competent enough to code. Fantastic. That said...Today felt like I was trying to talk to a love that just wasn't into it the relationship anymore. I remember a time when alty, x11joe, dasource, TrollsRoyce, r00tback, and MrRGnome used to hang out in IRC and talk to everyone about what was going on and things were good. Seemed like a community that you could relate to. Today (and the past two weeks) have been painful. The devs came in towards the end of the day and told us they would work on their PR. I appreciated that. But it again felt like a "quick blow-off half considered thing" since the excuse of "Don't have enough time" and "community should be more patient" came up frequently but they settled on trying to get the already epic theoretical to do PR. If that happens then maybe the community will get back to where it was but right now it feels like talking to my ex-wife only now she wants to sell me something but doesn't want to talk about it. Great idea, the VPN, but bad timing. Fix the coin first before trying to sell us stuff that isn't even marketed with the needed info like what country it is hosted in and throughput. We are still invested due to the technology behind the coin (which at this point is closed source and questionable)... But to be clear, things have changed. And I am sure this post will get buried and no one will give a shit but I wanted to say something to get it off my chest. I feel better now.
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Since the first POSA was good (according to MRRGnome) and they have just been starting fresh over and over it shows that they are at least competent enough to code. Fantastic. That said...Today felt like I was trying to talk to a love that just wasn't into it the relationship anymore. I remember a time when alty, x11joe, dasource, TrollsRoyce, r00tback, and MrRGnome used to hang out in IRC and talk to everyone about what was going on and things were good. Seemed like a community that you could relate to. Today (and the past two weeks) have been painful. The devs came in towards the end of the day and told us they would work on their PR. I appreciated that. But it again felt like a "quick blow-off half considered thing" since the excuse of "Don't have enough time" and "community should be more patient" came up frequently but they settled on trying to get the already epic theoretical to do PR. If that happens then maybe the community will get back to where it was but right now it feels like talking to my ex-wife only now she wants to sell me something but doesn't want to talk about it. Great idea, the VPN, but bad timing. Fix the coin first before trying to sell us stuff that isn't even marketed with the needed info like what country it is hosted in and throughput. We are still invested due to the technology behind the coin (which at this point is closed source and questionable)... But to be clear, things have changed. And I am sure this post will get buried and no one will give a shit but I wanted to say something to get it off my chest. I feel better now.
Speaking of PR, anyone noticed that you can't pay for that service in CLOAK? Just saying.
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