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February 14, 2012, 03:54:09 PM
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I'm sorry to bring up ghosts guys. Ordinarily I laugh maniacally in private at the circle-jerk newsletter I subscribed to on google that Bruce moderates to keep out Bold Funding scam evidence, or just post it to skype friends, but this little gem today was too good to keep to myself.

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   Bruce Wagner <bruce@onlyonetv.com> Feb 13 08:16PM -0500  

    https://www.tradehill.com
    
    
    Best regards,
    
    Only Love,
    
    Bruce
    
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Adam Levine <adamlevinemobile@gmail.com> Feb 13 06:15PM -0800  

Sounds like we have our answer to how The Powers That Be would respond:
They are taking the embargo route.
 
If this trend continues we can expect another blow to the value - What do
you think Bruce, this going to be a big hit?
 
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Bruce Wagner <bruce@onlyonetv.com> Feb 14 07:01AM -0500  

    It's already taking a toll. It's down in the $4 range now... whereas it's
    been in the $6 range.
    
    I think the field is certainly ripe for more exchanges to appear on the
    scene.
    
    If only they knew how to Market themselves, they'd have massive volume. (
    i.e. advertise on The Bitcoin Show).
    
    MtGox gets massive exposure due in part to my own PR. I always
    demonstrate MtGox when interviewed on television, etc. Other competing
    exchanges don't have a chance without a real PR machine behind them....
    like me. :-)
    
    At least TradeHill was smart to sponsor The Bitcoin Show for a while, from
    launch day. They quickly grabbed 10-14% market share from MtGox. But
    then they dropped their advertising and began loosing what they had
    gained.
    
    All the other exchanges are stillborn, at this point, having never
    advertised at all.
    
    
    
    
    Best regards,
    
    Only Love,
    
    Bruce
    
    Bruce Wagner
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 If only they knew how to Market themselves, they'd have massive volume. (
    i.e. advertise on The Bitcoin Show).


 If only they knew how to Market themselves, they'd have massive volume. (
    i.e. advertise on The Bitcoin Show).



 If only they knew how to Market themselves, they'd have massive volume. (
    i.e. advertise on The Bitcoin Show).



 If only they knew how to Market themselves, they'd have massive volume. (
    i.e. advertise on The Bitcoin Show).


You heard it hear first children. Bruce could have saved Tradehill single-handedly.


TL;DR:

Bruce is as delusional as always. Move along.

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February 14, 2012, 04:00:40 PM
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So, what you're saying is that once I get the Satoshi cocktail perfected, I should market it on OnlyOneTV?
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February 14, 2012, 04:10:11 PM
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February 14, 2012, 04:44:04 PM
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To be honest, he has a valid point - Bitcoin exchanges currently do hardly any advertising at all.
Of course he'll list his own show as example for an advertising platform, just as anyone in their right mind would do... I rather rarely hear Google talking about web search engines in a positive context while stating "i.e. Microsoft bing".

I don't think tradehill fainted (it's not dead yet!) because of not enough marketing though, as most other exchanges they probably even just lack the manpower to deal with a massive influx of customers.

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Anything associated with Bruce Wagner I will avoid if possible.  

Advertising on his show is a horrible branding move. "Endorsed by a convicted fraudster, so you know it's good!"

What a pompous schmuck.
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February 14, 2012, 08:56:23 PM
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What an Asshat...

His head is so far up his ass its amazing to see a level like that...

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Looks like http://bitcoinme.com/index.php/shop/ is taking a page right out from bitcoin.org by linking Bitcoin on Craigslist to https://www.google.com/search?q=bitcoin+site%3Acraigslist.org&hl=en&num=10&lr=&ft=i&cr=&safe=images&tbs=
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February 14, 2012, 09:27:53 PM
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Anything associated with Bruce Wagner I will avoid if possible.  

Advertising on his show is a horrible branding move. "Endorsed by a convicted fraudster, so you know it's good!"

What a pompous schmuck.

+1 

The only reason I would ever watch his "The Bitcoin Show" would be to see who I should avoid doing business with... and hopefully the sponsors would be listed in the first few seconds so I could avoid watching the whole thing.   

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Anything associated with Bruce Wagner I will avoid if possible.  

Advertising on his show is a horrible branding move. "Endorsed by a convicted fraudster, so you know it's good!"

What a pompous schmuck.

+1 

The only reason I would ever watch his "The Bitcoin Show" would be to see who I should avoid doing business with... and hopefully the sponsors would be listed in the first few seconds so I could avoid watching the whole thing.   

You're in luck! The sponsors are always listed within the first few seconds prior to the airing of the show.
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February 14, 2012, 09:40:39 PM
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Yes, I'm sure MORE trade volume would have helped tradehill.  What, does that dumbass think they went out of business or something?  They need a license to do more than XX amount of trades in California so some of their banks shut down some of their accounts (again).  I don't think more trade volume would have helped, it would have actually made this happen sooner.  What a dumbass.  I should buy advertising space on his show to bash him with.

Also, OP is a hater.
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February 14, 2012, 10:06:43 PM
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Tradehill was advertised on his show. Tradehill is now out of business. Coincidence? Yes.

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To be honest, he has a valid point - Bitcoin exchanges currently do hardly any advertising at all.
Of course he'll list his own show as example for an advertising platform, just as anyone in their right mind would do... I rather rarely hear Google talking about web search engines in a positive context while stating "i.e. Microsoft bing".

I don't think tradehill fainted (it's not dead yet!) because of not enough marketing though, as most other exchanges they probably even just lack the manpower to deal with a massive influx of customers.

I see ads for CryptoXchange on so many bitcoin related websites.  People use Mtgox because they have the volume and their websites don't look as ghetto.   Bitcoinica has the sleekest design IMO.

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February 14, 2012, 10:53:04 PM
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I don't know why Tom gets such a hard time  Huh
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Also, OP is a hater.

And you say that with the utmost love and respect no doubt.   Wink

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February 15, 2012, 04:35:09 AM
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Also, OP is a hater.

I'm no hater of homosexuals, con-artists, self-importants or even convicted scammers. I am a hater of two things though-- cowards, and those who downplay the importance of their interview guests to try to make themselves seem more important.

I also hate rainbows.

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Bruce is half right half wrong in my case.

I started using Tradehill in part because Mt. Gox was down with their hack, but also kept using them because the initial Tradehill interview on his show, and follow-up after the Dwolla fiasco was fairly impressive.  As much as anything I just thought that the Bitcoin ecosystem would be better off with more than one exchange (and Tradehill was a great place from a buyer's perspective back in the day.)

One of the reasons I did not ever (yet) use Mt. Gox was that they continued to sponsor Bruce after it became known that he is a convicted scam artist.

Anyway I've got my space in the block-chain and have not bought or sold BTC for many months.  Nor do I have any immediate plans to do either.  We'll see if Tradehill comes up with my funds which I just requested back.  If I were a betting man, I would bet that they do, but time will tell.  Bruce had me pretty well fooled so I have not much confidence in my judge of character these days.


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Bruce is half right half wrong in my case.

I started using Tradehill in part because Mt. Gox was down with their hack, but also kept using them because the initial Tradehill interview on his show, and follow-up after the Dwolla fiasco was fairly impressive.  As much as anything I just thought that the Bitcoin ecosystem would be better off with more than one exchange (and Tradehill was a great place from a buyer's perspective back in the day.)

One of the reasons I did not ever (yet) use Mt. Gox was that they continued to sponsor Bruce after it became known that he is a convicted scam artist.

Anyway I've got my space in the block-chain and have not bought or sold BTC for many months.  Nor do I have any immediate plans to do either.  We'll see if Tradehill comes up with my funds which I just requested back.  If I were a betting man, I would bet that they do, but time will tell.  Bruce had me pretty well fooled so I have not much confidence in my judge of character these days.


Does anyone else find it amusing that “back in the day” is like six-eight months ago? LOL

Brucy is a genius really. He tried real crime and discovered that silly little things like regulatory agencies and legal systems can actually affect his ability to stay in business. I bet an actual light bulb flashed above the guys head when he thought to himself, “Hey, this Bitcoin thing isn’t regulated or under the legal purview of any government agency! PERFECT!


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February 15, 2012, 07:06:27 AM
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I gotta say, I've had dinner several times with Bruce and lots of one-on-one conversations. While I can't speak to his past suspected transgressions, he is a true believer and faithful advocate of Bitcoin and I respect him for that.

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I gotta say, I've had dinner several times with Bruce and lots of one-on-one conversations. While I can't speak to his past suspected transgressions, he is a true believer and faithful advocate of Bitcoin and I respect him for that.

And I respect you for letting us know that, something we didn't know or didn't/don't want to believe that of him. Sometimes, it's easy to continue kicking at a guy for no reason at all, except for a few LOL's. I'm almost 52 years old, and should know better. Thank you, Tuxavant, for putting this back into perspective.

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February 15, 2012, 07:29:08 AM
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I gotta say, I've had dinner several times with Bruce and lots of one-on-one conversations. While I can't speak to his past suspected transgressions, he is a true believer and faithful advocate of Bitcoin and I respect him for that.

And I respect you for letting us know that, something we didn't know or didn't/don't want to believe that of him. Sometimes, it's easy to continue kicking at a guy for no reason at all, except for a few LOL's. I'm almost 52 years old, and should know better. Thank you, Tuxavant, for putting this back into perspective.

~Bruno~


Self-important scam artists are always sincere.

I have talked with Bruce when he was here in Japan as well and he sounded very serious about succeeding, having fun, and above all, completely ignoring everyone with a concern about his plans. He was also very careful to paint himself as a celebrity telling me how children recognize him in New York and how that's what he cares about most. I never doubt this for a second, nor do I doubt after talking with him in great lengths about how to do damage control on his bashed public image that his refusal to respond to inquiries, lies, and eventual going into hiding was nothing more than protecting himself.

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