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February 15, 2012, 04:22:46 PM
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The Video cards are 6 month old and have still 18 month warranty.
 The invoice could be supplied to the buyer.
 
They have mined Bitcoin for 6 months in a air conditioned room and went not hotter than 50 degree.
 They are complete checked Fan´s and so on supply 100% power and 100% RPM.
 
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February 15, 2012, 08:02:17 PM
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55 BTC send for 2 cards
Will report when i receive them.
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February 15, 2012, 08:20:55 PM
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Overclocking / MHas/s statistics? What do they average?

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they have run on these settings:

clock 950 MHZ Mem speed 250Mhz, Fan 90%, 52C, 1.085 Vcore, -k phatk VECTORS BFI_INT AGGRESSION=12 FASTLOOP=false WORKSIZE=256

average MHash/s 396 around

they can do more i think but i don´t know how long. So there are many setting for this card type please have a look here:

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
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Does the 120 include shipping?  Where are you shipping from?
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I just blew my wad on a 5970 and a Sapphire 5850 extreme. I have to rest between purchases.  Grin

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Does the 120 include shipping?  Where are you shipping from?

I also would like is you ship to europe and what it will cost.

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Does the 120 include shipping?  Where are you shipping from?

120 USD + DHL shipping 
I ship from germany
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I just blew my wad on a 5970 and a Sapphire 5850 extreme. I have to rest between purchases.  Grin

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Yes the voltage is a little bit higher but not much only a little
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Does the 120 include shipping?  Where are you shipping from?

I also would like is you ship to europe and what it will cost.

The actually done oder with shipping to europe so Netherland belgium france austria was 31 for one card 55 BTC for two cards out the EU 33,5 and 58 BTC
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February 15, 2012, 11:24:12 PM
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What is the shipping cost to Munich?




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The actually done oder with shipping to europe so Netherland belgium france austria was 31 for one card 55 BTC for two cards out the EU 33,5 and 58 BTC

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I send you a PM for 2 cards.

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What is the shipping cost to Munich?




Does the 120 include shipping?  Where are you shipping from?

I also would like is you ship to europe and what it will cost.

The actually done oder with shipping to europe so Netherland belgium france austria was 31 for one card 55 BTC for two cards out the EU 33,5 and 58 BTC

1 Card 26 BTC=>79 Euro + 5 BTC shipping => 15 Euro
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Preise für Motherboards ?

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February 17, 2012, 12:26:25 PM
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To make it a little bit easier for all who request prices for this items:

Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5              20 BTC
PSU 1050W Cougar GX             25 BTC
AMD Sempron 145                   7,5 BTC
RAM 1 GB PC3 240 Pin Dimm      3 BTC  sending by Airmail
Samsung Spinpoint F3 250 GB  7,5 BTC

All prices are incl. shipping EU for oversee shipping please send me PM.

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February 19, 2012, 10:13:58 PM
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Cards arrived friday afternoon and working well without problem.
Thanks and +1 rep for seller
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February 21, 2012, 12:54:42 PM
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Hi John,

I would like to summarize the things what we spoke in PM. I need 6 (six) cards from you. These cards has to be shipped to an address in Munich. One half will be paid with BTC the 2nd half will be paid when they delivery it (cash at delivery)

We can proceed with this order if you confirm this business here on the forum.




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I also would like is you ship to europe and what it will cost.

The actually done oder with shipping to europe so Netherland belgium france austria was 31 for one card 55 BTC for two cards out the EU 33,5 and 58 BTC

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How many of these cards are still for sale?

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February 22, 2012, 08:35:21 AM
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John,

I just sent you 55 BTC to your address what you gave to me. Rest of them will be paid in cash at delivery

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Please provide tracking code for second order.
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I would also like to have the tracking code for my order.

Thank you.
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I would like my tracking info as well

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Hi John,

I am wondering if you had a chance to post the cards to the given address?


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any update on this situation or did we all get scammed?  Embarrassed

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any update on this situation or did we all get scammed?  Embarrassed

A couple people had reported back that they got their cards, but its sounding like more people than not still haven't gotten them.

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any update on this situation or did we all get scammed?  Embarrassed

A couple people had reported back that they got their cards, but its sounding like more people than not still haven't gotten them.
I've noticed that too, I sent him a pm asking for my tracking info a few days ago and still no response Sad

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any update on this situation or did we all get scammed?  Embarrassed

A couple people had reported back that they got their cards, but its sounding like more people than not still haven't gotten them.
I've noticed that too, I sent him a pm asking for my tracking info a few days ago and still no response Sad

See the problem with his original posting is.. just because a guy has a ton of gpu boxes doesn't mean he actually still has the gpus. :-/

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Well, the first picture shows 34 cards and the second picture also shows 34 cards stacked differently. I bought 4, how many total cards did everyone else buy?
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any update on this situation or did we all get scammed?  Embarrassed

A couple people had reported back that they got their cards, but its sounding like more people than not still haven't gotten them.
I've noticed that too, I sent him a pm asking for my tracking info a few days ago and still no response Sad

See the problem with his original posting is.. just because a guy has a ton of gpu boxes doesn't mean he actually still has the gpus. :-/
I had him take a pic w/ my name on a piece of paper with the gpu's and he obliged

@MrTeal I ordered 2

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I had him take a pic w/ my name on a piece of paper with the gpu's and he obliged

@MrTeal I ordered 2

so he took a picture of your name with 2 unboxed gpus?  That's about how many got confirmed received.

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My name with the whole stack lol I really hope this gets cleared up, I didn't have much money and had to stretch it for these cards

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I think you guys should calm down. Maybe he has something else to do than refresh his PM folder 24/7. There was a weekend and everything. As I understand few people got their cards. Powercoiner mentioned that he got over 90 PMs. Would you guys want to use your spare time answering PMs?

Let's wait and let's not make any assumptions. I also bought cards so I'm involved as well.
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February 28, 2012, 02:09:38 PM
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i duno, i probably wouldnt have bought something from a guy that registered the day before, posted in newbie hangout section a few times, and asked someone if they were selling 5830 or 5850's before posting about how he had like dozens of 5850's

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i duno, i probably wouldnt have bought something from a guy that registered the day before, posted in newbie hangout section a few times, and asked someone if they were selling 5830 or 5850's before posting about how he had like dozens of 5850's

scratch

I am glad we have Sherlock here.

I still hope the cards will show up. I ordered 6. 2 were paid with btc rest would be paid in cash when it gets deliveried.

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The number of people now waiting for cards and commenting about it is a little discouraging.

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February 28, 2012, 09:35:25 PM
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this guy has been afk for 11 days. Its time to brand him a scammer. Anyone speak German? Powercoin announced the same cards for sale on a German post and pulled the exact same scam.

I've been working on an escrow solution to stop this kind of thing, but I'm still getting it up and running.

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Before he posted this thread he had a listing on Bitmit for the cards.  The listing was for a single card, but it used all the same pics.  And from what I saw the listing was pulled...

Sorry to come in late, but I didn't see this thread until today.

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Dexter, if you have a moment could you please reply to my PM?

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Dexter, if you have a moment could you please reply to my PM?

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I would say that we've been screwed. I'd also like to point out that Powercoiner might be the same person as Dexter.

1) Dexter is the only person who successfully bought anything from Powercoiner.

2) In personal messages between myself and the two of them, they both sign off the same way.
"Best Regards
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"Best Regards
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3) Both from the same country

4i) Powercoiner joined Feb 14, 11:58AM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=51871)
4ii) After getting out of newbie prison, he posted on Dexter's FS thread at 1:58pm asking to buy risers. How many could he need when he's liquidating his rig? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61010.msg748178#msg748178)
4iii) 2.5 hours later he posts this thread
4iv) Only 3.5 hours after that at 8pm Dexter has already sent Powercoiner 55BTC for two cards.

5) Despite asking for a tracking number for his second order (Second order already? The seller must be reputable.) and apparently not getting one, he hasn't posted in here asking what's going on. He hasn't replied to PMs or emails in the last few days asking if he's received it despite the his first order taking less than 2 days to reach his door and the fact it's been more that twice that long this time. I'd be posting here if I were him, and he's been on here every day since then. When I was asking if Powercoiner was a good seller I got replies in a couple hours, when I ask for a little information on the first "sale" I haven't heard back in 5 days.

6) Dexter coincidentally has 34 Sapphire 5850 Xtremes in an air conditioned rack (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7216.msg711224#msg711224), much like Powercoiner.
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All I can say is fuck!

I think we should start gathering all the information we have on him. If anyone has his name or anything.
Basically he sold us stuff he has but is not going to send.

At this point it's reasonable to asume dexter is the same person. Can we post names here or do we have to do it privately.

I paid to a real bank account in Hongkong but it's not his account. I will try to contact the bank and let them know the account was used on criminal purposes.

Dexter = Powercoiner. Their mining setup is identical. If we co-operate we might get enough info on this guy.
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Sorry not to be mean or anything but... who DIDN'T see this coming?

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Sorry not to be mean or anything but... who DIDN'T see this coming?

Sherlock no2. Those comments are not helping. It's always easy to say that kind of things afterwards.
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I found out where dexter lives. I also send few PMs to people who bought something from him. There is a good chance we can get his real name and address.
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February 29, 2012, 09:59:43 AM
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before Powercoiner post this thread, he PM me with nice offer for all 36 Sapphire 5850 Extreme. But he only accept BTC and no paypal or any e-currencies which safe for both if have any troubles. I think with the huge amount for 36 5850s, me and you need pay via the safe way, so I decline his offer and still wait for other successful trading. Until now I have seen only Dexter and no one.
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Dexter has exactly the same hardware what powercoiner is selling. He has also disappeared now so there is a good reason to believe there is a same person behind them. I know where dexter's mining hardware is (city in germany) so that might help us. Any other information is welcome.

In fact, I will offer a bounty for any helpful information. 1-3 btc, depends if useful.
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February 29, 2012, 12:49:43 PM
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I wouldn't do anything too crazy just yet, maybe give Dexter a full day to come on and try to provide a little proof that I'm wrong in this. A scan of the DHL waybill or just copying the DHL tracking number from the first order that Powercoiner sent him would be all that is needed. That shouldn't be too hard for him to produce.

I also paid through a wire transfer to his company's HK US funds account as well. Interestingly Dexter apparently runs or ran a business importing equipment to Europe from Asia.
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Hi,

I feel very sorry for you guys!

I got scammend half a year ago and than discribed the situation to the forum administrator. He made some ip adresses public to put him under pressure. It worked, as some of them where no TOR adresses, and the scammer did send my BTCs back.

Powercoiner also posted a thread to sell GPUs in the german section, so if he really is german it should be possible to get his home adress. In Germany the ISPs have to record the ip adresses!!

So ask the administrator for ip adresses, check against proxies and ... good luck!!!
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Dexter has contacted me and denied my allegation that he is Powercoiner. That is fair, so I'm going to say that as of now I am skeptical but I won't claim that they are the same person. Dexter, if you are a separate person from Powercoiner, I will apologize at that point. The similarities are striking though, so if you could do something to put our minds at ease we would really appreciate that so we can continue with finding out more information on Powercoiner and hopefully get our money returned.
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Dexter provided me powercoiners address. I will look into it and see if it's legit. Dexter you could always try to do some research too because you are german and know better how everything works there.

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Dexter should be able to provide bitcoin transaction IDs and a waybill for his first order.

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Dexter provided me powercoiners address. I will look into it and see if it's legit. Dexter you could always try to do some research too because you are german and know better how everything works there.

Dexter IS Powercoiner.  He's feeding you bullshit.  I suspect he's also AniceInovation in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64666.0

Make 3 accounts.  Give yourself good reputation, then leverage that with the 3rd account by "borrowing" $700 worth of BTC.

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Great fantasy give me your dop i need this also.

so i´m Dexter , AniceInovation , Powercoiner

can somebody bit more?

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Right now I have three different names and two different addresses.

Anice provided me Powercoiners name which doesn't give any hits in google or anywhere else.
I have Powercoiners address from Dexter. That doesn't help either.
I have Dexter's address, his firm's address and Dexter's real name. Those are only real information I have right now.

Dexter, prove to us that you are on our side. Scan a tracking code or something from the powercoiner's shipment. Give us the BTC transaction information. That shouldn't be problem.

Hard to believe that you can make a shipment with DHL without giving your real information. I would also like to know why Dexter has identical mining hardware with Powercoiner. Let's hope that we get some IP-address information from the mods soon. That will clear up a lot of things.

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Here's what I was PM'd, its relevant to this conversation, but hasn't been mentioned by MXRider.

Hi,

Powercoiner PM'd me 25th and he was last online two days ago. Hard to say what he is really doing. Let's hope he answers this night. Did you buy anything from him?

He says pretty much the same things in german. He also mentioned there that he got over 90PM's one day. That might be a reason he doesn't answer.

Some people say that they got the cards so I hope we can get some of his information if he's a scammer. I really hope this gets cleared out, whether it's a scam or legit. I hate this feeling when I just have to sit and wait.

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Mxrider, your lack of credentials calls you into question as well. Please provide your bitcoin transaction ID.

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That's a joke right?

I paid with international bank transfer. I've exchanged several PM's with other people trying to sort this out. My money is on gone as well. What do you want from me?
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I'm not convinced that AniceInovation is the same person as Powercoiner. It would be nice to hear from him, and he is in the EU, but looking through his 8 pages of posts there doesn't seem to be any outright red flags. It would be interesting to see his response to Tomato's post on whether he went through with the deal with Powercoiner. Does anyone have any other information on that possible link?
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Dexter should be able to provide bitcoin transaction IDs and a waybill for his first order.

This. Also, the transaction ID for his second order of 20 cards.

For anyone else that payed with BTC, it might be helpful to have the transaction IDs from those purchases to follow up on. I'm fairly new at this, but I can try following them around in blockchain.info.
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I've been working on an escrow solution to stop this kind of thing, but I'm still getting it up and running.

no escrow used? www.btcrow.com
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I've been working on an escrow solution to stop this kind of thing, but I'm still getting it up and running.

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They didn't use any, no.

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ip address is usually released by admin 2 weeks after the theft/scam
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I've been working on an escrow solution to stop this kind of thing, but I'm still getting it up and running.

no escrow used? www.btcrow.com

They didn't use any, no.
This is why I insist on escrow when I buy stuff with bitcoin. Let's hope maged get their ip's faster now
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Powercoiner == Dexter

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Powercoiner == Dexter

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Powercoiner == Dexter

Thank you Maged.

Well, our money is gone, but we now have a name, address, and business contacts.
Could anyone who got scammed and is in Germany please PM me? I would like to discuss filing charges/suing Dexter (Sebastian Gussen).
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55 BTC send for 2 cards
Will report when i receive them.

That explains this posting so quick.

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Cards arrived friday afternoon and working well without problem.
Thanks and +1 rep for seller

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Please provide tracking code for second order.
Thanks

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Great fantasy give me your dop i need this also.

so i´m Dexter , AniceInovation , Powercoiner

can somebody bit more?



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Sebastian, start shipping that stuff. Like mentioned, we have everything. Does your wife/girlfriend know what kind of trouble you are getting into? The cat person who is also part of your business.

I'm ready visit Sebastian in Germany if he doesn't ship the hardware. I made my deal with a business so EU's consumer protection authorities will be involved if this goes to police.

So, are you going to ship that hardware or return my money? I will mention this just in case, do not send me any shit.

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ip address is usually released by admin 2 weeks after the theft/scam

How will an IP help recover coins?

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ip address is usually released by admin 2 weeks after the theft/scam

How will an IP help recover coins?

It won't, but no one really knows all the personal details on Powercoiner. Dexter on the other hand has dealt with people before. His name is known, his address is known, people have visited his house. We know who he is and where he lives.
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People have visited his house? As in somebody here knows this guy personally or you just googled an address he gave you?

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I'm pretty sure we have Sebastian's wife's and brother's names as well. I'm using his real name here because he is powercoiner (see maged's post)

I tracked some BTC payments made to powercoiner's address and he is moving the money from one address to another. I found some IP's from blockchain.info and they are very near dexter's home.

How much time we are going to give Dexter/Sebastian Gussen? I'm planning to report him to the police tomorrow. I think we should publish his information if he doesn't respond tonight. (he is probably reading this right now).

I got a link where people were talking about Sebastian's earlier scams. Those he did with his company. Still reading it further..
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People have visited his house? As in somebody here knows this guy personally or you just googled an address he gave you?

He has made some deals at the forum as Dexter. There is a guy who visited him regarding some mining power deal.
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People have visited his house? As in somebody here knows this guy personally or you just googled an address he gave you?

He had a post up offering rig hosting services, and apparently some people have actually visited his home to see his air conditioned hosting site. I'm trying to get more details, but it's quite possible people on this forum have actually seen the cards that Dexter used to scam all of us.


MXRider - I was think about giving him until the end of the day today to at least respond and begin to sort this mess out. I've already provided him an address to repay me. I hope he takes me up on it, I really just want this over. If he doesn't reply, I'll also file a police report along with a complaint against his business to the town council. I'm also considering calling up the priest at his local church and seeing if he might say a public prayer for Sebastian's soul at the next mass.

Can you PM me the link of the other scams? Thanks
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I'm also considering calling up the priest at his local church and seeing if he might say a public prayer for Sebastian's soul at the next mass.


LOL i love this idea.

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Powercoiner/Dexter/Sebastian is deleting images, so here's some backups.

imgur.com/a/Ud5Br

Obviously not really proof, but I like how Powercoiner posted images to imageshack and named them videocards1, videocards2, videocards3h, etc and Dexter uploaded images to imageshack and named them miner1, miner3d, side1s, etc. Habits die hard even when you're lying about your identity.
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Yep, deleting them. Did he really think we don't have them saved. What a scumbag. Looks like he won't go down without a fight.
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Good work guys!

Congratulation for the work what you put into this.

I still don't have the video cards what was promised by this guy. To prove the scam I am more than happy to provide every pm what I exchanged regards to this business.

What good would give to dexter to delete the pictures? I did not get that

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He must think that he is deleting critical evidence. Many of his actions are irrational. Now he is busted and probably has read these posts and still doesn't want to settle this. Some of us are smarter than the others.

Sebastian has also moved his bitcoins around more than 20 times. That doesn't help him either but he still does it Cheesy

I've contacted his possible wife/girlfriend and waiting for an answer. Fulepp you can also file criminal charges against him. Do it in your local police office and they will forward it to germany.

Everyone who lives in EU can file criminal charges. We can also go there and drink a cup of coffee with sebastian while we decide how he is going to pay us back.

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Does anyone here know how to pull up a public court case in Germany? My lack of any knowledge of German is making it really tough for me to try.

It's from 08/04/2009, and is case AZ 322 Js 261/09. It was filed in Amtsgericht 59821 Arnsberg, Eichholzstrasse 10.

It is a previous fraud conviction against Mr. Gussen (Dexter).


For anyone else who's interested, I was holding off on giving out his home address in order to give Sebastian a chance to contact people and return there money, but it doesn't seem like it's going to happen.

Sebastian Gussen
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I've also seen Breitewege 12 listed for him, which from google maps appears the be the house next door to his shop.

He's run several businesses in the past, including one that imported spas from Asia. That would be the reason he has the HSBC bank account in Hong Kong that he had MXRider and myself use to transfer funds into. I'm not sure on the laws in Germany, but I will be looking into retaining a lawyer and contacting the district prosecutor to see if it is possible to file charges for international wire fraud. I honestly don't ever expect him to ever send me my money, but maybe I can hold out some thing hope that if he's a repeat offender he could actually face some jail time.

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Also, could anyone else who paid Gussen by wire transfer PM me? Thanks
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Great fantasy give me your dop i need this also.

so i´m Dexter , AniceInovation , Powercoiner

can somebody bit more?

 Cheesy

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The problem with People like this asshat is that they always get away with what they do. At least in Germany. The only way to teach such persons a lesson is to visit them at home for a nice little chat... he doesn't even have to understand your language if you bring your friends with you Cheesy Wink

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ip address is usually released by admin 2 weeks after the theft/scam

As senbonzakura said, I won't be able to release the IP address for about 2 weeks in this case. The reason is because I don't see enough evidence to expedite the investigation.

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Haha... Well, I just had the "Honey, I just got scammed out of $450 of our money." talk. Needless to say that could have went better. Looks like I'll be mining with just my 6870 and no dedicated rig for awhile. Seems a waste when I spent 2 days trying to explain BTC and why it was a good idea to invest in a rig. Undecided

Hopefully we see our money back, it would make my life easier.
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I have talked with a communications officer at HSBC regarding this fraud. HSBC will provide all the necessary details to the police.

Right now I'm laughing Cheesy Sebastian could go to jail for this. What a fucking idiot. Dexter/Sebastian, send me a PM or email if you want to settle this. Is Raphaela Frese your wife or just a business partner. I contacted her and explained this. You can tell Manfred by yourself or should I? I think they will be interested to hear that they are part of a company which has committed a fraud.

I just came home from the police station. And police report has been filed. Right now I'm answering an email from HK police regarding this fraud and filing a repot there. Good luck Sebastian Gussen! You will need it.

Sebastian, if it's too much trouble (as it seems) shipping that hardware, I can always come over? Just tell me when you have time. I like medium roast coffee.


Turbor, you rent that stuff? Cheesy
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I have talked with a communications officer at HSBC regarding this fraud. HSBC will provide all the necessary details to the police.

Right now I'm laughing Cheesy Sebastian could go to jail for this. What a fucking idiot. Dexter/Sebastian, send me a PM or email if you want to settle this. Is Raphaela Frese your wife or just a business partner. I contacted her and explained this. You can tell Manfred by yourself or should I? I think they will be interested to hear that they are part of a company which has committed a fraud.

I just came home from the police station. And police report has been filed. Right now I'm answering an email from HK police regarding this fraud and filing a repot there. Good luck Sebastian Gussen! You will need it.

Sebastian, if it's too much trouble (as it seems) shipping that hardware, I can always come over? Just tell me when you have time. I like medium roast coffee.


Turbor, you rent that stuff? Cheesy

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I would be pretty surprised at this point if AniceInovation was Dexter. For one, they post nothing alike. Two, Anice seems to have provided znort with ID that doesn't match what we know about Dexter. Three, Dexter was too stupid to even use a basic proxy to keep his IP separate from Powercoiner's, but Anice's doesn't match and he's been around here 8 times longer than Dexter/Powercoiner. Either Anice is an absolutely incredible scammer who's managed to create two new accounts with the intention of sacrificing them, while at the same time selling things using the Dexter ID and mailing them with an assumed identity in order to frame Sebastian Gussen, or they are actually two separate people.
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Will pay my lender i a few more days.

BTW, i had a nice chat with my lawyer, will post it tomorrow Cheesy
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My apologies to Anice if my initial assumptions about his identity were incorrect.  I still don't buying that much hardware from someone who just got out of newbie status was a good of an idea though.

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Here it is:

Lawyer: Hello mr. Anice, how can i help you?
Me: Good afternoon, mr. lawyer. I am here because i made a online purchase and the item wasn't shipped to me.
Lawyer: Very well, what was it and how much was the cost of the purchase?
Me: I bought some computer hardware for the amount of... the equivalent to 650 euros.
Lawyer: Ok, have you pressed charges at the police.
Me: No, i have not yet.
Lawyer: Please do, it is easier to me to process an official complain. I will need a proof of purchase.
Me: (pause) Well, that's more complicated, i paid with Bitcoin, wich is a online currency.
Lawyer: (pauses and smiles) You too? Some clients had the same problems. How many Bitcoins?
Me: 200 Bitcoins.
Lawyer: Can you identify, or provide the name, address other information on the other party?
Me: Yes, that information had been provided to me by other people who were fooled by the same person.
Lawyer: Ok, I will need the transaction ID of you purchase, and an official complain at the police. It should move effortless from that point.
Me: (playing dumb) I'm sorry, transaction ID?
Lawyer: That is a code that proves you made the transfer. That and the official claim will solve your problem.


After some additional chat, he said that although Bitcoins aren't worth anything, the fact is 2 parties decided to make a trade.
I could have bought his hardware with bananas. If both parties accept that, i just have so send him the bananas and he has to send me the hardware.
Funny, i think this is going to work! Monday i'll press charges at the police and talk to my lawyer again Wink
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Layer = Lawyer

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Wow. I was just about to buy at least 3-5 when I saw his offers on bitmit.net and on the forum. Upon asking if for escrow I got a response that he has never used it and don't know how it exactly works so I explained it to him and gave him some examples (reputable forum members, btcrow, there's escrow on bitmit, etc.). After that he never responded so I decided the price is too good to be true and to risk.
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I'm still poking around into this after filing my complaints with the police.
It's tough to find much information on Sebastian since there so many results from his defaulted scam MagicMobiles business. Apparently he's an artist, since he figured out how to take pictures of flowers with a fast lens.
http://us.fotolia.com/p/76933
Looks like they're some of the same photos that are on the website of his catlady friend (and co-director of MagicMobiles)
http://raphaela-frese.de/catcorner.html

He's got a linkedin profile, but he's apparently forever alone.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sebastian-gussen/39/862/b94

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March 04, 2012, 12:24:24 AM
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Also, it appears Dexter is still logging in despite the fact that he hasn't posted or replied to messages. Last login on March 1st.
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March 06, 2012, 02:05:43 AM
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I'm not sure if any of you have been contacted by Dexter but he refunded my BTC to me today. Hope you guys have/will soon recoup your coins/money

Hey,

We found out who has done the scam and we will get also back our supplied good´s hopefully. But i think that would be only a question of time the police inform us that they have secured all our supplied good´s. Any way as we get back our goods we will also try to refund all the amounts which powercoiner send us to pay his order. So could you please inform me what you have paid and where you have paid it. We only have get a lot of BTC.

Looking forward to hearing from you

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Sebastian

Hey,

i´m really sorry about this trouble but i thought that i could trust our housing customers here.
55 BTC is tranfered

Funds are on their way (bitcoin transaction: 624f58f9-b7cf-45be-9258-3ddb81f40344)

Best Regards
Sebastian

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March 06, 2012, 03:34:32 AM
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so dexter is power coin and sebastian ?

so now story is changed and he is blaming his flatmates ?
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March 06, 2012, 04:25:26 AM
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I hope someone presses charges. Good work everyone.

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Waiting for my money to arrive. Will notify you all when I get them. If I get them.

Edit: Looks like everyone will get their money and BTC back. I would advice everyone to drop every charges when you get your money back. If there is someone who hasn't got money or BTC back at the end of this week. Send me a PM and I'll see what I can do.
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March 07, 2012, 06:43:49 PM
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I just want to confirm i received the 55 BTC from Dexter.

I am sending 5 BTC to MxRider for the work what he did to recover this money.

Thanks again! Nice work!

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March 07, 2012, 07:41:28 PM
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I got my 770€ back today.

Dropped all the charges of course. I still have some business to take care with the Chinese company that I paid. They haven't been very helpful with this matter.

Everything related to this forum is okay.
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March 07, 2012, 09:35:14 PM
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Glad to see people getting refunded, maybe there is still some good left in the world

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March 07, 2012, 10:50:28 PM
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Waiting for my money to arrive. Will notify you all when I get them. If I get them.

Edit: Looks like everyone will get their money and BTC back. I would advice everyone to drop every charges when you get your money back. If there is someone who hasn't got money or BTC back at the end of this week. Send me a PM and I'll see what I can do.

I wasn't scammed. If I was, I wouldn't drop the charges, even after getting my money back. Trying to scam someone is also a crime, even if you regret it and refund the money.

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March 08, 2012, 12:16:41 AM
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he used a sockpuppet to purport legit trading
at least in one case he was sued for damages in germany and became sentenced (he tried to avoid that by declaring bankruptcy; don't wanna know how many people he screwed
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and finally he pays everthing back just because these guys managed to reveal his identity, so he have to expect to become filed again

it's obvious what drives his mind
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March 10, 2012, 09:59:00 AM
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I'm waiting for my BTC's to get them back till now nothing.

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March 15, 2012, 08:00:53 PM
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I received my refund today. No one's posted in awhile, I hope that's because everyone's been paid back and is content.
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March 19, 2012, 04:14:55 AM
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Any further update from people? Is anyone still waiting to get paid?
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March 23, 2012, 11:41:38 AM
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till now no money on my bank account and no btc back.

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March 23, 2012, 12:04:04 PM
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till now no money on my bank account and no btc back.
Then continue to file your complaint with the police. That'll give him some incentive to repay you.
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March 23, 2012, 06:40:13 PM
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Wow, saw this thread with some new posts and a scammer is actually giving refunds now? :O What is this world coming to?!

But grats guys. Too bad the person that scammed me wasn't "nice" enough to refund me..

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