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April 28, 2011, 11:31:39 AM
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But there is little point in arguing ... it just makes you look stupid too.   

Exactly. Instead of arguing, I posted this to the mises.org thread:

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Nielsio, I'd like to send a donation in recognition of the videos that you make and share. Let me know your Bitcoin address. I'm sure others would like to donate too.

In the same thread, SunAvatar offered to buy call options, a sure way for anyone at mises.org to make money if they think bitcoins have no value.

In other words, don't argue with people who don't think Bitcoin is money. Just use Bitcoin as money.
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April 28, 2011, 11:33:52 AM
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In other words, don't argue with people who don't think Bitcoin is money. Just use Bitcoin as money.

Wise words.
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April 28, 2011, 06:06:36 PM
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In other words, don't argue with people who don't think Bitcoin is money. Just use Bitcoin as money.

Wise words.

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April 28, 2011, 08:03:50 PM
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New ideas take time to be accepted. When the concept of "zero" was first imagined by mathematicians, it took centuries to be accepted as being real and meaningful. The same with the idea of the sun at the center of the solar system. And evolution is still not universally accepted.

People were murdered for attempting to tell people outside of the fold about the square root of one.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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April 28, 2011, 10:16:20 PM
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New ideas take time to be accepted. When the concept of "zero" was first imagined by mathematicians, it took centuries to be accepted as being real and meaningful. The same with the idea of the sun at the center of the solar system. And evolution is still not universally accepted.

People were murdered for attempting to tell people outside of the fold about the square root of one.

The heck?!?  What's the story behind that?
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April 29, 2011, 12:15:00 AM
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But there is little point in arguing ... it just makes you look stupid too.   

Exactly. Instead of arguing, I posted this to the mises.org thread:

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Nielsio, I'd like to send a donation in recognition of the videos that you make and share. Let me know your Bitcoin address. I'm sure others would like to donate too.

In the same thread, SunAvatar offered to buy call options, a sure way for anyone at mises.org to make money if they think bitcoins have no value.

In other words, don't argue with people who don't think Bitcoin is money. Just use Bitcoin as money.

That post was brilliant.
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April 29, 2011, 12:25:34 AM
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New ideas take time to be accepted. When the concept of "zero" was first imagined by mathematicians, it took centuries to be accepted as being real and meaningful. The same with the idea of the sun at the center of the solar system. And evolution is still not universally accepted.

People were murdered for attempting to tell people outside of the fold about the square root of one.

The heck?!?  What's the story behind that?

Oh, sorry.  The square root of negative one.  There is an unconfirmed story that such numbers were central to a mathmatics cult centered on a Greek island, wherein secrecy of the math was maintained by the threat of death to anyone who would share the secrets with the greater Greek cultures.  There is some evidence of the use of such "imaginary" numbers in the complex architecture of Athens, but no evidence of how the designs were calculated were ever found upon any building plans ever recovered, so this story is plausible.  I'm having trouble remembering the name of this math cult, so Google isn't helping me out much.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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April 29, 2011, 02:11:52 AM
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New ideas take time to be accepted. When the concept of "zero" was first imagined by mathematicians, it took centuries to be accepted as being real and meaningful. The same with the idea of the sun at the center of the solar system. And evolution is still not universally accepted.

People were murdered for attempting to tell people outside of the fold about the square root of one.

The heck?!?  What's the story behind that?

Oh, sorry.  The square root of negative one.  There is an unconfirmed story that such numbers were central to a mathmatics cult centered on a Greek island, wherein secrecy of the math was maintained by the threat of death to anyone who would share the secrets with the greater Greek cultures.  There is some evidence of the use of such "imaginary" numbers in the complex architecture of Athens, but no evidence of how the designs were calculated were ever found upon any building plans ever recovered, so this story is plausible.  I'm having trouble remembering the name of this math cult, so Google isn't helping me out much.

I think it was irrational numbers, like the diagonal of a unit square. So root 2 and such.

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April 29, 2011, 02:28:23 AM
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New ideas take time to be accepted. When the concept of "zero" was first imagined by mathematicians, it took centuries to be accepted as being real and meaningful. The same with the idea of the sun at the center of the solar system. And evolution is still not universally accepted.

People were murdered for attempting to tell people outside of the fold about the square root of one.

The heck?!?  What's the story behind that?

Oh, sorry.  The square root of negative one.  There is an unconfirmed story that such numbers were central to a mathmatics cult centered on a Greek island, wherein secrecy of the math was maintained by the threat of death to anyone who would share the secrets with the greater Greek cultures.  There is some evidence of the use of such "imaginary" numbers in the complex architecture of Athens, but no evidence of how the designs were calculated were ever found upon any building plans ever recovered, so this story is plausible.  I'm having trouble remembering the name of this math cult, so Google isn't helping me out much.

I think it was irrational numbers, like the diagonal of a unit square. So root 2 and such.

Maybe so.  Memory fades....

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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April 29, 2011, 02:56:27 AM
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I'm having trouble remembering the name of this math cult, so Google isn't helping me out much.

Probably talking about the Pythagoras cult. They thought the universe was mathematically perfect, that any phenomena in nature could be explained with rational numbers. One of the disciples discovered that the square root of 2 was irrational so Pythagoras killed him and made the others keep the discovery a secret. This is just a legend though I think.
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June 25, 2011, 02:01:44 AM
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It all boils down to the fact you cant eat bitcoins.  Tongue
You can if you boil them first Wink
I like 'em deep-fried  Tongue  Smiley

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June 25, 2011, 04:21:07 AM
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It all boils down to the fact you cant eat bitcoins.  Tongue
You can if you boil them first Wink
I like 'em deep-fried  Tongue  Smiley


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June 25, 2011, 04:29:12 AM
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It all boils down to the fact you cant eat bitcoins.  Tongue



How true. Same with gold. I still like both! Grin
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