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April 21, 2018, 01:59:09 PM
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https://medium.com/nemofficial/an-interview-with-nem-core-developer-bloody-rookie-4b05c340773d

Nice interview with one of the catapult core devs. Worth a read  Wink

He's having a moan at the community again. Fair enough. But in the past the core team have rarely acknowledged any community effort and weren't remotely interested in interacting with them or listening to suggestions. That hasn't fostered an atmosphere that encourages people to pitch in.

That's changing now but a lot of potential has been squandered and I'm sure people have walked to other more inclusive projects.

I've noticed that too. It did seem more difficult to really connect with the devs as far as making our own contributions, though they've always been very responsive to technical support types of issues. I honestly think it's simply that temperament wise, the NEM developers aren't really people or relationship oriented. They're very focused on coding and the technology and being personable and engaging is a whole other skill set.

I've watched a few of the Inside NEM episodes, and I think Alexandra Tinsman comes across as very friendly and personable. It may be that her job responsibilities could and maybe should also include community engagement, organizing community efforts, etc. Or, if she already has her hands full with the marketing efforts, then maybe someone with a similar demeanor should be hired for things like community and investor relations.

This is a situation where honestly, no one is doing anything wrong, but there is a critical need not being met. Hiring the right person to meet that need would make all the difference.
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April 21, 2018, 02:30:00 PM
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I've watched a few of the Inside NEM episodes, and I think Alexandra Tinsman comes across as very friendly and personable. It may be that her job responsibilities could and maybe should also include community engagement, organizing community efforts, etc. Or, if she already has her hands full with the marketing efforts, then maybe someone with a similar demeanor should be hired for things like community and investor relations.

She's very good and I hope she does more.

It is improving rapidly with meetups and much more active social media accounts and so on, but had similar engagement happened in the earlier days it's likely things would be considerably further along.

Better to be ground up than top down.

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April 21, 2018, 04:07:20 PM
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I am really glad things are improving, and I don't think it will be long before things catch up to a level we think they should be. We can't go back in time, but the future looks bright.

I've watched a few of the Inside NEM episodes, and I think Alexandra Tinsman comes across as very friendly and personable. It may be that her job responsibilities could and maybe should also include community engagement, organizing community efforts, etc. Or, if she already has her hands full with the marketing efforts, then maybe someone with a similar demeanor should be hired for things like community and investor relations.

She's very good and I hope she does more.

It is improving rapidly with meetups and much more active social media accounts and so on, but had similar engagement happened in the earlier days it's likely things would be considerably further along.

Better to be ground up than top down.

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April 21, 2018, 04:31:49 PM
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again ...
in these interviews is got that kind of picture that some activity is expected from the community.

Yes. Network effects are very important to the value of a cryptocurrency. More active engagement - whether technical or social - is encouraged and needed.

From my point of view I am a little bit disappointed on me, coz have stuck in this site. Twitter, Telegrams, etc, are too new for me Sad
And the biggest issue to "learn" new media is the rush in the civil life. Sometimes the future there matters more than the futures of crypto coins Smiley

This thread has been barely monitored in favor of the NEM forum (https://forum.nem.io/) for a few years now. There are other more active communities (e.g. Telegram) and more recently longer form posts on Medium have begun.

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April 21, 2018, 04:38:04 PM
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But in the past the core team have rarely acknowledged any community effort and weren't remotely interested in interacting with them or listening to suggestions. That hasn't fostered an atmosphere that encourages people to pitch in.

I would have to disagree with this. Both the Nano wallet and the NEM library/sdk efforts were started by the community. The responsible developers were rewarded with jobs in the NEM foundation and continue to contribute positively to the ecosystem. There is also that whole community fund thing.

As far as I know, people interested in interacting have generally been engaged. The NEM foundation has a whole team for this purpose. Maybe you know of some counterexamples?

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April 21, 2018, 04:50:43 PM
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I've noticed that too. It did seem more difficult to really connect with the devs as far as making our own contributions, though they've always been very responsive to technical support types of issues. I honestly think it's simply that temperament wise, the NEM developers aren't really people or relationship oriented. They're very focused on coding and the technology and being personable and engaging is a whole other skill set.

Lol. It's called division of responsibilities and delegation.

If you go back in the NEM time machine, you'll find that the core developers were much more active earlier on in the project before the first "Marketing Lead" (xtester) was brought on. It was an intentional decision to separate into two teams - development and marketing - at that time. With that separation in place, there was less need for the core developers to directly engage in marketing activities. Nonetheless, any technical people who wanted to join the project could reach out to us.

As time went on, the division became starker and became far more formalized around two years ago. The development team partnered with TB to begin catapult development. The marketing team evolved into the NEM foundation and focused on NEM1 marketing.

You can disagree on the effectiveness of this approach, but it's a bit unfair to claim the developers are not personable. This is all by design. Building catapult from scratch requires a LOT of effort and focus and some insulation was needed to hasten development.

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April 21, 2018, 05:37:13 PM
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I've noticed that too. It did seem more difficult to really connect with the devs as far as making our own contributions, though they've always been very responsive to technical support types of issues. I honestly think it's simply that temperament wise, the NEM developers aren't really people or relationship oriented. They're very focused on coding and the technology and being personable and engaging is a whole other skill set.

Lol. It's called division of responsibilities and delegation.

If you go back in the NEM time machine, you'll find that the core developers were much more active earlier on in the project before the first "Marketing Lead" (xtester) was brought on. It was an intentional decision to separate into two teams - development and marketing - at that time. With that separation in place, there was less need for the core developers to directly engage in marketing activities. Nonetheless, any technical people who wanted to join the project could reach out to us.

As time went on, the division became starker and became far more formalized around two years ago. The development team partnered with TB to begin catapult development. The marketing team evolved into the NEM foundation and focused on NEM1 marketing.

You can disagree on the effectiveness of this approach, but it's a bit unfair to claim the developers are not personable. This is all by design. Building catapult from scratch requires a LOT of effort and focus and some insulation was needed to hasten development.

I think what people are commenting on is that there seems to have been a gap in reaching out and interacting with the community between the time the decision was made to have devs focus on development (a totally legit decision) and the time that marketing and outreach efforts have gotten more formalized and underway.

I don't think it's going to make a huge difference in the long run, but yes, there has been a significant time when there didn't seem to be much communication between the dev team and the community. Again, I don't think anyone did anything wrong. It's just something I'm glad to see is being remedied by better marketing/outreach efforts and expanding the team.
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I am still here and doing my part of the job by speaking about NEM and discussing the problematic topics. All people who helped me in past, who I was discussing ideas with got a job at NEM Foundation. If you are really here to contribute, you'll find a way. I am just doing some videos, talks and I am influencing those that are smarter than me to work on NEM. And no, I don't have a job in Foundation...

BTW, this is my latest video about news in NEM and feedback is highly welcomed:
https://youtu.be/x80Veog48XU

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April 22, 2018, 12:15:18 AM
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Thanks a lot for your help you make at nem

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April 22, 2018, 05:29:16 AM
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What did you think of with the chart?
https://i.imgur.com/GD2TOQl.png
Please pay attention on price trend, volume, peaks, bottoms.
Happy invest, everyone.

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April 22, 2018, 01:45:54 PM
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NEM is now tradable on OpenLedger / Bitshares Exchange!

https://blog.openledger.info/2018/04/04/nem-xem-now-tradable-on-openledger-exchange/

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April 22, 2018, 06:05:04 PM
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ICYMI: Crypto Finder interview with http://NEM.io  Foundation former President and now Advisor, Lon Wong, about different possibilities and use cases NEM can bring

View more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwcKnNUwURY

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April 22, 2018, 06:41:18 PM
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again ...
in these interviews is got that kind of picture that some activity is expected from the community.

Yes. Network effects are very important to the value of a cryptocurrency. More active engagement - whether technical or social - is encouraged and needed.

From my point of view I am a little bit disappointed on me, coz have stuck in this site. Twitter, Telegrams, etc, are too new for me Sad
And the biggest issue to "learn" new media is the rush in the civil life. Sometimes the future there matters more than the futures of crypto coins Smiley

This thread has been barely monitored in favor of the NEM forum (https://forum.nem.io/) for a few years now. There are other more active communities (e.g. Telegram) and more recently longer form posts on Medium have begun.

I can only speak  for twitter and telegram, but NEM is more than present here. I really love the different groups, and I can only encourage to join NEM red, nemberia and so on.
The level of communication now is more than great in my eyes and I love the little updates from the devs, via medium, NEM forum and twitter.
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April 22, 2018, 11:15:37 PM
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April 23, 2018, 06:47:25 AM
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I have a problem with the universal wallet, i was harvesting over a year with no problems, checked ervery week the status of harvesting, but now i moved my balance to a new adress (Trezor) and use the universal wallet. When i start harvesting the status i next day on INACTIVE, and this every day and no matter what server (prefer the alice servers)....
Has anyone the same problem?
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April 23, 2018, 07:34:33 AM
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I have a problem with the universal wallet, i was harvesting over a year with no problems, checked ervery week the status of harvesting, but now i moved my balance to a new adress (Trezor) and use the universal wallet. When i start harvesting the status i next day on INACTIVE, and this every day and no matter what server (prefer the alice servers)....
Has anyone the same problem?

I did the same some time ago and it is still harvesting without any problems. Works a few months now. Maybe you should try another node. And if i remember correctly there was some kind of script to restart it. But ask in Telegram for more details
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April 23, 2018, 08:19:56 AM
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ICYMI: Crypto Finder interview with http://NEM.io  Foundation former President and now Advisor, Lon Wong, about different possibilities and use cases NEM can bring

View more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwcKnNUwURY
That's a good interview about NEM. Sums it all up in short. I think that about sums it up. And I like it, it brings back memories.Thanks for sharing.
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April 23, 2018, 02:30:43 PM
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ICYMI: Tech Bureau Europe has partnered with #Chronoswiss to launch five luxurious crypto-design watches. Read the full story here:
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April 23, 2018, 03:15:11 PM
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ICYMI: Crypto Finder interview with http://NEM.io  Foundation former President and now Advisor, Lon Wong, about different possibilities and use cases NEM can bring

View more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwcKnNUwURY
That's a good interview about NEM. Sums it all up in short. I think that about sums it up. And I like it, it brings back memories.Thanks for sharing.

YEA this does bring back memories
I always look at the use case
and NEM is still strong
NEM has a bright future overall in blockchain market
One of the real ones that will exist for a long time
While many other coins will come and go

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April 23, 2018, 05:30:56 PM
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ICYMI: Crypto Finder interview with http://NEM.io  Foundation former President and now Advisor, Lon Wong, about different possibilities and use cases NEM can bring

View more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwcKnNUwURY
That's a good interview about NEM. Sums it all up in short. I think that about sums it up. And I like it, it brings back memories.Thanks for sharing.

YEA this does bring back memories
I always look at the use case
and NEM is still strong
NEM has a bright future overall in blockchain market
One of the real ones that will exist for a long time
While many other coins will come and go
Yep, the use case is here. We just need a couple of high profile 'flagship' projects to be built on NEM. That will allow the rest of the market to follow their lead. As Lon Wong is saying in the video, you can issue securities for example on NEM but we haven't seen any production utility like this built.
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